Looks totally cool & awesome! And only a year of more away!
World of Warcraft Cataclysm Trailer At Blizzcon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yutECWu2OFg#normal)
Scott over at Extralife is watching the streaming event LIVE here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-instance-podcast (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-instance-podcast)
Here's a much clearer version of the trailer. This looks like a lot of fun!
http://www.treksinscifi.com/video/WOWX3CataclysmTrailerUS.flv (http://www.treksinscifi.com/video/WOWX3CataclysmTrailerUS.flv)
Saw this live today.. everyone seemed to go crazy over it.
Heh, I read and watched this and thought:
"Blizzard likes to lie alot..."
Not to be overly harsh, but they said they would never allow flying mounts in azeroth, never bring back those bosses, never do some of those race combos, etc etc etc. Yet, looks like they will. I do have to say, I heavily disagree with the Goblins and Worgens being put on any side, whether it be Horde or Alliance. WoW Lore has pretty much forbidden this in the past, but I guess in the end, the Dev's make their own lore. I think it is wrong that the Goblins were put on the horde side considering that they also deal with the Alliance a lot too...
Otherwise, it looks interesting. I have to say I didn't expect them to even go back to the old universe and change it so much. It would intrigue me to go back to WoW, except the same gameplay will still happen so I'd just read the lore and then quit my subscription. Why waste the $$?
King
You know what they say Tim, "Never say never,..." I myself am very excited by this new expansion. Great idea for it I think.
Blizzcon coverage:
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Quote from: Rico on August 22, 2009, 05:36:08 AM
You know what they say Tim, "Never say never,..." I myself am very excited by this new expansion. Great idea for it I think.
Yeah, that is a good point.
King
Quote from: Kinglinksr on August 21, 2009, 10:51:29 PM
Heh, I read and watched this and thought:
"Blizzard likes to lie alot..."
Not to be overly harsh, but they said they would never allow flying mounts in azeroth, never bring back those bosses, never do some of those race combos, etc etc etc. Yet, looks like they will. I do have to say, I heavily disagree with the Goblins and Worgens being put on any side, whether it be Horde or Alliance. WoW Lore has pretty much forbidden this in the past, but I guess in the end, the Dev's make their own lore. I think it is wrong that the Goblins were put on the horde side considering that they also deal with the Alliance a lot too...
Otherwise, it looks interesting. I have to say I didn't expect them to even go back to the old universe and change it so much. It would intrigue me to go back to WoW, except the same gameplay will still happen so I'd just read the lore and then quit my subscription. Why waste the $$?
King
The goblins aren't a unified race. They are stuctured under 5 separate 'trade princes'. From what I can tell by this, one of those groups allied with the horde. Frankly I'm excited.
Tauren rogue anyone?
Some pictures from Blizzcon...oh dear.
The news about this expansion has got me DROOLING to play this game again. I love the thought that they are revamping the old world zones, and allowing flying all over the old continents is just an awesome thing. They are geniuses at making people want to come back and keep playing this game over and over again. Now all I need is a computer that is actually capable of running WoW at an acceptable degree and I am set! anyone have $2500 I can borrow?
Joby - you don't need anywhere near that type of money for a computer to play WOW. I built my son one a couple months back for about $400 and it plays it great. And even if you say double that and notch things up a bit, you are still under a grand.
- Oh, this expansion is over a year away. So no rush.
Yeah I'm not much of a techie, hence my love of console gaming. I bought a $600 laptop a year ago and was very disappointed at the performance I got from it playing WoW, after the guy in the store promised me it would play the game well.
I certainly don't need much. I'd like to play the game running at a reliable framerate of 30-40 fps at least, especially during 25 man raids, with the effects sliders around medium and I would be happy. you think $800 bucks can get me there?
Basically if you can get yourself a Core 2 Duo of pretty much any speed, a mid-range (read 200 dollar) video card and 2 - 4 gigs of RAM, you should be fine.
Remember WoW is almost 5 years old now.
On my almost 5 year old machine the only place my framerate dies is in Dalaran where I get 10-15 fps. Everywhere else I'm between 25-60 fps.
Joby,
Laptops are a different animal. They have to make a lot of compromises due to space, heat, and so on. Very, very different hardware and the cost / performance on a laptop vs. a PC is huge.
I also just built a kick-butt system for my friend Mark for about $900. This machine has top-notch hardware. One of the only good things these days is how inexpensive and good computer hardware has gotten. It's really incredible. If you ever get serious about this, I'd be happy to point you in the right direction as far as what to buy and use.
I think the problem with my laptop is the integrated video card. It's just not meant for gaming. The main reason I quit playing WoW, beyond my guild falling apart, is the performance problems and the fact that I can't upgrade the stupid video card because it is soldered into my laptop or something.
Thanks so much Rico, I am going to try to save a few dollars and I will take you up on that offer for sure!
Gaming on a laptop is never ideal. Even those swanky ultra expensive 'gaming' laptops go obsolete very quickly.
Is that so? Too bad they can't nail that tech down affordably yet, I love the portability of my laptop. I carry it all over the house.
Back to Cataclysm though: Worgen!!! I might actually have to play Alliance???? Yuck. The Goblins look like the Horde's answer to the Gnomes, nothing I'm really excited about there, although they supposedly have a cool sounding racial mount, a roadster of some kind. Did they mention during Blizzcon if the leveling process would be altered all through the game or similar to the Blood Elves and Dranei all the new quests would be lvls 1 - 20? Tons of awesome lore possibilities if you are into that. Looking forward to seeing Deathwing in the game again and I hope he is implemented the way they have done with Arthas in Wrath, having him show up at various times in quests and cut scenes throughout the level grind. so much to be excited about.
Well, the official release date is out! DECEMBER 7, 2010!
WOOT!!!
WORLD OF WARCRAFT®: CATACLYSM™ IN STORES STARTING DECEMBER 7
IRVINE, Calif. -- October 4, 2010 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. today announced that World of Warcraft®: Cataclysm™, the highly anticipated third expansion for the world's most popular subscription-based massively multiplayer online role-playing game*, will be released starting on December 7, 2010. The expansion will be available on DVD-ROM for Windows® XP/Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 and Macintosh® at a suggested retail price of $39.99 and will also be offered as a digital download from the Blizzard Store. A special Collector's Edition packed with bonus items will be available exclusively in retail stores for a suggested retail price of $79.99.
"Cataclysm includes the best content we've ever created for World of Warcraft. It's not just an expansion, but a re-creation of much of the original Azeroth, complete with epic new high-level adventures for current players and a redesigned leveling experience for those just starting out," said Mike Morhaime, CEO and cofounder of Blizzard Entertainment. "With the help of our beta testers, we're putting on the final polish, and we look forward to welcoming gamers around the world to enjoy it in just a couple of months."
The first two World of Warcraft expansions, The Burning Crusade® and Wrath of the Lich King®, each shattered PC game sales records upon their release.* In Cataclysm, the face of Azeroth will be forever altered by the return of the corrupted Dragon Aspect Deathwing. Players will explore once-familiar areas of the world that have now been reshaped by the devastation and filled with new adventures. In an effort to survive the planet-shattering cataclysm, two new playable races -- worgen and goblins -- will join the struggle between the Alliance and the Horde. As players journey to the new level cap of 85, they'll discover newly revealed locations, acquire new levels of power, and come face to face with Deathwing in a battle to determine the fate of the world.
The beta test for World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is currently underway. Visit the official Battle.net® website at http://www.battle.net (http://www.battle.net) to set up a Battle.net account and sign up for a chance to participate. To learn more about World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, visit http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm. (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm.)
Blah blah blah, boring unoriginal content blah blah blah, same old grind, stealing your $$, blah blah blah. ;)
This expansion just doesn't excite me at all. Probably doesn't help I don't play Wow anymore though.
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on October 06, 2010, 03:20:33 PM
Blah blah blah, boring unoriginal content blah blah blah, same old grind, stealing your $$, blah blah blah. ;)
This expansion just doesn't excite me at all. Probably doesn't help I don't play Wow anymore though.
King
Tim, I can understand if the game doesn't appeal to you anymore, but they are pretty much revamping the entire world/game. I certainly wouldn't call that boring or unoriginal.
For me, I'm super excited!
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm - Announcement Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llMIDqFbsnE#ws)
WoW bored me. I know I am in the minority. I did not like all the kids in the game also. I prefered DAOC,Warhammer and EQII for fantasy MMO.
I would be more excited, because I did enjoy the lore parts of WoW, but I know that they broke their own lore and history to make the game appeal to more people. This latest expansion doesn't fix any of that either, just makes it worse. Also, the even more recent class/race changes just made wonder why all races can't do all classes, they pretty much already do. Tauren Paladins....need I say more?
King
I'm just hoping they drop the price on BC
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on October 06, 2010, 04:01:22 PM
I would be more excited, because I did enjoy the lore parts of WoW, but I know that they broke their own lore and history to make the game appeal to more people. This latest expansion doesn't fix any of that either, just makes it worse. Also, the even more recent class/race changes just made wonder why all races can't do all classes, they pretty much already do. Tauren Paladins....need I say more?
King
Really not following your points as I see pretty much the opposite. But I guess the game isn't for you anymore.
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on October 06, 2010, 04:01:22 PM
I would be more excited, because I did enjoy the lore parts of WoW, but I know that they broke their own lore and history to make the game appeal to more people. This latest expansion doesn't fix any of that either, just makes it worse. Also, the even more recent class/race changes just made wonder why all races can't do all classes, they pretty much already do. Tauren Paladins....need I say more?
King
How did they break the lore? I know some fans like to write up stuff and call it official, but that doesn't make it so. In the end, why would any company ever limit the ways to entice someone to a game if it doesn't break the balance of the game?
Quote from: X on October 06, 2010, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on October 06, 2010, 04:01:22 PM
I would be more excited, because I did enjoy the lore parts of WoW, but I know that they broke their own lore and history to make the game appeal to more people. This latest expansion doesn't fix any of that either, just makes it worse. Also, the even more recent class/race changes just made wonder why all races can't do all classes, they pretty much already do. Tauren Paladins....need I say more?
King
How did they break the lore? I know some fans like to write up stuff and call it official, but that doesn't make it so. In the end, why would any company ever limit the ways to entice someone to a game if it doesn't break the balance of the game?
As a role player I've noticed Blizzard willing to bend or break their own history in order to make the game appeal to everyone. The bosses being killable as raid deals is one thing, but the Tauren Paladins, the other numerous class/race combos that have been made slap the race's history in the face. Taurens were never of the light, they were of the "Earthmother". The Blood Elves joining the horde stretched what that race should have done.
The worgen joining the alliance would never happen originally. I don't know all the details about the Worgen in Cataclysm, but when humans turned into Worgen, they were nothing more than vicious animals, not fancy druids as they seem to be now. That and the Goblins who are neutral in the affairs of the horde and alliance joining the horde again, stretching the history.
I guess to you guys it's nitpicks, but these are just a few examples that come to mind. But I really dislike WoW for reasons beyond the lore, the never ending grind, the large amount of micro-transactions, the abandonment of Roleplayers, the loss of World PVP and the complete lack of PVP balance turned my interest off. Say what you will, but PVP is never balanced when the Good players never lose and those catching up can never win because the good armor is locked behind "being good" so any chance of being able to win goes out the window. We can't all play WoW 24/7...
King
I can understand some of what you are saying. Guess since you don't like WOW you will be saving yourself the cost of the expansion and the monthly fee (more money to pay that monthly iPhone bill). For me, I think it will really breathe new life into the game. As far as lore, I guess it's their game and they can change anything they want. Certainly comics, movies, TV, etc. do that all the time. "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" have done it many times.
I've never played the race/class combo Tauren Paladin, so I have no idea how Blizz implemented it, but I know from D&D rules Paladin's can worship any diety, but were required to have Lawful Good alignment. I think that Deathknight class was created as an evil equivalent to the Pally although in WoW they aren't really that close. I see them as a holy warrior type of thing and could certainly be believeable worshiping a nature goddess in my mind. Especially in a game where you are playing as a walking/talking cow. WoW lore was never my primary reason for playing anyway. It's super cool thatthey have such a fleshed out history and story but I don't care at all if they decide to revise it for whatever reason they choose.
lol Rico, you always going to bring up
My iPhone even if I don't mention it? ;).
I guess I hear what your saying about the lore deal. And it's not just the lore keeping me from WOW, just one of a few. I have had a bad itch to play a fantasy game here lately though. WoW sadly seems one of my better choices as a PC/iPhone gamer.
King
Hehe! The reason I bring up the iPhone is the cost. What is it about $70 a month? WOW = $14.95/month. And I know you are a hard working college student. Come back to Azeroth Tim! ;)
Quote from: Rico on October 07, 2010, 08:01:46 AM
Hehe! The reason I bring up the iPhone is the cost. What is it about $70 a month? WOW = $14.95/month. And I know you are a hard working college student. Come back to Azeroth Tim! ;)
Hahaha. Who knows. Actually, no, I'm out of MMOs for a year at least. Err, the rest of my college year anyway. That even goes for my old love Eve Online. :(
King
Yeah, that's a good idea. My sons don't play anymore either. College comes first!
It's going to kill me but I probably am not jumping back into WoW until we get our 2010 tax refund and our family gets a new computer
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 07, 2010, 07:45:35 AM
I've never played the race/class combo Tauren Paladin, so I have no idea how Blizz implemented it, but I know from D&D rules Paladin's can worship any diety, but were required to have Lawful Good alignment. I think that Deathknight class was created as an evil equivalent to the Pally although in WoW they aren't really that close.
For the last few itterations of D&D, you could actually be a dark Pally. Having inflict wounds instead of laying hands ect. So I could see this fitting with everything.
Quote from: X on October 07, 2010, 01:45:41 PM
For the last few itterations of D&D, you could actually be a dark Pally. Having inflict wounds instead of laying hands ect. So I could see this fitting with everything.
Yeah I've been out of the loop for about 20 years now. In our game, my dungeon master and I actually created a class called the Anti-Paladin, which was very much like what you describe. My DM had a penchant towards the evil end of the spectrum so it bugged him that at the time there was no evil equivalent to the pally.
Well, the big patch 4.0 dropped yesterday. Mega-sized download and installed in preparation for Cataclysm coming in about two months. Finally got in the game later last night. Of course all my addon's are non-functional now. But I don't use a ton of them. All new talent trees. Going to take me awhile to readjust. :)
Same here, the killer for me is auctioneer isn't working right now. How will I make money?! Also Healbot on my holy paladin seems broken. It always takes a bit of time for things to settle down. I jacked all the new graphical settings up to max and I was getting 40 fps on my doghouse where I usually get over 150. The new water effects are incredible.
Yikes! You dropped from 150fps to 40fps?!?! With settings maxed? This is scaring me. What vid. card you have in that machine Joe?
P.S. Do all zones have enhanced graphics now?
Well I dropped when I set everything to max. I dropped the water effects down one notch and the shadow effects down one notch and I jumped back up to 90-100 fps.
I have 2 ATI 4850's in crossfire. I was running under the 'old' settings maxed with shadows one notch above half. The new options just go higher. Also the new water and sunshaft effects are hogs, you can leave them off if you want.
Hmm, that's still a bit disturbing. I wonder if people will really be prepared for this? You know how it goes, people will want to "max" everything on a 5 year old computer because they have been able to get away with it in WOW for a long time. It hasn't really needed a super, power machine. I guess until now. I can hear the complaints rolling in already. ;)
There's definitely some grumblings going on about how Cataclysm will drop some low end machines. This happens with every expansion. Might just be more noticeable now. They are adding DirectX 11 support which my relatively new cards don't support.
Quote from: billybob476 on October 13, 2010, 06:53:14 AM
There's definitely some grumblings going on about how Cataclysm will drop some low end machines. This happens with every expansion. Might just be more noticeable now. They are adding DirectX 11 support which my relatively new cards don't support.
Yep, good points. And I guess you have the option to dial things back. Oh, well. Like Joby said a few posts back, maybe this is a good excuse to upgrade my machine! :)
Right, we tend to forget, this game came out in 2004. If they didn't do any graphical engine updates there's no way it would compete with modern games. It's a credit to BLizzard that they can keep this game looking as awesome as it does.
FYI - Cataclysm TV spot tomorrow night during the football game on FOX 4:15 EDT, 3:15 CST. I'm downloading the beta - GEESH!! 15 GIGS!! That's on top of my normal game
Quote from: sheldor on October 16, 2010, 05:43:42 AM
FYI - Cataclysm TV spot tomorrow night during the football game on FOX 4:15 EDT, 3:15 CST. I'm downloading the beta - GEESH!! 15 GIGS!! That's on top of my normal game
Downloading the beta?? Is it open beta now???
Not sure - I just looked at my account and the link was there to download. Going to take most of the day. Free character copy too.
Quote from: sheldor on October 16, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
Not sure - I just looked at my account and the link was there to download. Going to take most of the day. Free character copy too.
On your account page? You mean when you login at account management?
Yes. Download is VERY slow. 14gb at 216 kb/s. Might as well be 1.21 GIGAWATTS :D
Huh?? I don't see it. I see a Public Test realm link, but that isn't the Beta.
So cool!
World of Warcraft Cataclysm Cinematic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgaM8_mEvnU#ws)
When will Blizzard make a movie?? ;) Seriously, the clips are so friggin awesome, they could make a movie and totally go to town :)
King
Anyone that plays a mage at lvl 80, or knows about the class, I would be very interested to hear impressions of the class after the latest patch. I hear through the grapevine that Mages are getting complaints of being overpowered again. Can someone describe the changes to the talents? I was a mostly Arcane focused mage during WotLK, and LOVED it for PvE. Comments?
I have been playing this game for 2 weeks now. I am a Level 49 warrior and loving it. I can see why this puts most other MMORPGs to shame. I can't wait for the expansion!
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 29, 2010, 06:10:47 AM
Anyone that plays a mage at lvl 80, or knows about the class, I would be very interested to hear impressions of the class after the latest patch. I hear through the grapevine that Mages are getting complaints of being overpowered again. Can someone describe the changes to the talents? I was a mostly Arcane focused mage during WotLK, and LOVED it for PvE. Comments?
My main is a mage. I am not an expert but I'd say they pumped them up a little bit. But then again, they pumped a few classes up. All this "balancing the class" thing to me is somewhat pointless. Where is it written that every class needs to balance out? What they need to do is give classes more uniqueness and purpose like old school D & D - at least in my view. Everyone seems to just want to pump out the DPS. But I guess that's the way the game is structured for PvP. I don't really do PvP so it doesn't matter much to me. Anyway, the game is still fun for me, even with the changes.
Quote from: Rico on November 07, 2010, 04:53:55 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 29, 2010, 06:10:47 AM
Anyone that plays a mage at lvl 80, or knows about the class, I would be very interested to hear impressions of the class after the latest patch. I hear through the grapevine that Mages are getting complaints of being overpowered again. Can someone describe the changes to the talents? I was a mostly Arcane focused mage during WotLK, and LOVED it for PvE. Comments?
My main is a mage. I am not an expert but I'd say they pumped them up a little bit. But then again, they pumped a few classes up. All this "balancing the class" thing to me is somewhat pointless. Where is it written that every class needs to balance out? What they need to do is give classes more uniqueness and purpose like old school D & D - at least in my view. Everyone seems to just want to pump out the DPS. But I guess that's the way the game is structured for PvP. I don't really do PvP so it doesn't matter much to me. Anyway, the game is still fun for me, even with the changes.
Balancing is definitely required for PVP but for PVE as well. So that all classes can be used and ppl don't have too many issues. This is more aimed at group raiding/dungeons. For years, anything but Holy Paladin was a stupid spec for Paladins. So the attempting balancing act is really required for all sides of WoW. I have no idea if they actually have done it right by now, but it would be nice to think they have fixed all the classes and specs to be playable in PVE/PVP and still be effective. I knew Blizzard had done wrong when certain classes were informally banned from being certain specs because they couldn't do the instance while I was playing. I was a Ret Paladin so I had a lot of experience of not being able to do anything because everyone hated Rets (I loved the spec to death). So for me, that hurt my gaming experience, to love something, yet be totally unable to do anything as a group because ppl wouldn't let you in due to you being "weak".
When you have so many classes in a game like this, balance is required so that classes feel fun and comparable.
I'm just saying.
King
I don't exactly agree. Take a healing class for example. They are needed but don't have to be able to churn out the DPS. The trick is to give each class something important and needed to do - not just lob spells or melee the enemy. The real problem is most people don't seem to want to do those "other tasks" that don't involve blowing the enemy apart. And that is I guess the real problem. Again for me, it doesn't matter because PvP has never interested me. I play the game for the questing, exploring, lore, feel, etc.
Quote from: Rico on November 07, 2010, 08:12:43 AM
I don't exactly agree. Take a healing class for example. They are needed but don't have to be able to churn out the DPS. The trick is to give each class something important and needed to do - not just lob spells or melee the enemy. The real problem is most people don't seem to want to do those "other tasks" that don't involve blowing the enemy apart. And that is I guess the real problem. Again for me, it doesn't matter because PvP has never interested me. I play the game for the questing, exploring, lore, feel, etc.
Its true that Healers are hard to find. I was a healer for a while, (I switched to ret later) but I burned out because everything was so dependent on the healer and as a Paladin, that was a hard and frustrating job because they gimped us as Healers. And really, if the game is frustrating and difficult, its no longer a game. What annoyed me is that one simple spell and they easily could fix the holy line. That's all it would have taken. But I read that the Devs would never give us said spell because "It would make the class less unique".
But yes, everyone wants to be DPS because DPS is less stressful than Tankers or Healers. If you misstep on Tanking or your heal fails at the wrong moment (and usually the NPC your fighting causes said heal to fail), then your group wipes and they, of course, blame the tank or healer.
I guess for you, it sounds like you don't do a lot of the group content so you probably don't receive a lot of what I had to receive while playing. It should be a fun experience, even as grouping and it was, but a lot of the time you spent wishing that there was a better way.
King
There is definetly a ton of pressure on me as a tank!
I didn't mean to start a balancing debate, I am more curious about how the new talent changes have affected PvE. I always LOVED the mechanic of using the instant invisibility to drop out of combat with my Arcane mage, and there were certain combos that were absolutely devastating when soloing (Arcane Blast and Arcane Missles) and I've read that there have been significant changes to these spells.
Can't really answer that. I play a frost mage.
The question of balancing is a simple one. If one class is substantially better then another, those players will have an advantage over others. Healers and tanks don't race for DPS, healers race for bigger healing numbers and tanks for health and damage mitigation. At the top end WoW is a numbers game.
I liked playing hunters.
I preordered the expansion via Best Buy yesterday. Sprung for the collector's edition. Tried to preorder it at a local Gamestop but they wouldn't take any more preorders for the collector's edition. Anyway, got my copy secured.
Quote from: Rico on November 14, 2010, 06:03:15 AM
I preordered the expansion via Best Buy yesterday. Sprung for the collector's edition. Tried to preorder it at a local Gamestop but they wouldn't take any more preorders for the collector's edition. Anyway, got my copy secured.
o_0 Really? I have never heard of Gamestop or anyone else not taking pre-orders on anything....
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 14, 2010, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Rico on November 14, 2010, 06:03:15 AM
I preordered the expansion via Best Buy yesterday. Sprung for the collector's edition. Tried to preorder it at a local Gamestop but they wouldn't take any more preorders for the collector's edition. Anyway, got my copy secured.
o_0 Really? I have never heard of Gamestop or anyone else not taking pre-orders on anything....
King
If you order too late for them to make sure you have a copy, they won't preorder it for you. That's any company.
"Managing Customer Expectations" They've obviously got a preorder allocation and have probably used it up.
Quote from: Feathers on November 14, 2010, 12:23:18 PM
"Managing Customer Expectations" They've obviously got a preorder allocation and have probably used it up.
Yes, and obviously Best Buy was allotted more copies. I would have probably still been able to walk in and buy a copy, but I wanted to make sure I snagged the collector's edition with the extra goodies.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/collector.html (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/collector.html)
Quote from: X on November 14, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 14, 2010, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Rico on November 14, 2010, 06:03:15 AM
I preordered the expansion via Best Buy yesterday. Sprung for the collector's edition. Tried to preorder it at a local Gamestop but they wouldn't take any more preorders for the collector's edition. Anyway, got my copy secured.
o_0 Really? I have never heard of Gamestop or anyone else not taking pre-orders on anything....
King
If you order too late for them to make sure you have a copy, they won't preorder it for you. That's any company.
Hmm, ok, I guess it is getting close to Cataclysm. Derp, never thought of that. Time flies...and all that stuff.
King
I just pre-ordered the digital download. CE's aren't a big deal for me :)
Of course since I'm a collector I like the extra goodies! I also still like to have physical discs for certain games when I can get them. Call me old fashioned but I figure for the price you should get some discs and packaging.
Joe - is the digital version any cheaper than even the basic version of the expansion? I think that's priced at $39.95.
Quote from: Rico on November 15, 2010, 05:49:09 AM
Of course since I'm a collector I like the extra goodies! I also still like to have physical discs for certain games when I can get them. Call me old fashioned but I figure for the price you should get some discs and packaging.
Joe - is the digital version any cheaper than even the basic version of the expansion? I think that's priced at $39.95.
Yeah it was 39.95. Honestly I was going to wait and order a physical box and then I sat and thought about it. When it comes to WoW the in box disc becomes very obsolete very quickly. I don't get the Collector's editions so aside from a DVD and a few advertising leaflets there isn't much is the standard edition box. My other three WoW boxes sit on my shelf and take up space.
Since it's an online game I'm not really worried about the company going away and then I wouldn't have a copy of the game. If the company goes away, the game would as well.
True Joe. But I have found the discs handy for new installs of the game - even to this date. It tends to make Windows happy, and the patches are less to download than the whole game. But I can see your point. It just kind of bugs me they charge the same for a digital version as the boxed one. That just seems wrong. I mean would it kill them to drop even $5 bucks off the digital price?
Oh I agree. There are definitely less overhead costs associated with the digital download (file storage, downloader infrastructure and bandwidth) as opposed to all the packaging, DVD stamping, shipping & distribution etc.
Frankly I think they make it the same price to appease physical retailers. If the digital version was 20 dollars, a lot less people would be buying boxed copies.
Quote from: Rico on November 15, 2010, 06:15:01 AM
True Joe. But I have found the discs handy for new installs of the game - even to this date. It tends to make Windows happy, and the patches are less to download than the whole game. But I can see your point. It just kind of bugs me they charge the same for a digital version as the boxed one. That just seems wrong. I mean would it kill them to drop even $5 bucks off the digital price?
You have to think about the benefit of digital. If you buy it digital, you can always download it and you don't have to worry about scratched discs, waiting in line for the game, or losing said disc.
Love Digital! Love Steam! I am buying it digital!
Quote from: X on November 15, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
You have to think about the benefit of digital. If you buy it digital, you can always download it and you don't have to worry about scratched discs, waiting in line for the game, or losing said disc.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that, for WoW, as long as your account has a record of your having purchased the game at some point in the past you always have the ability to download a digital copy if you have lost or damaged your physical media. I am hoping that's the case, anyway, because my original and BC discs are long gone and if I have to purchase them all again to play Cataclysm it ain't happening.
Yup, you can download the client up to the latest expansion you've purchased already patched to a playable state.
Yep, that's a cool thing too. I just like getting something physical for the same money I'd be spending on the digital version. I'm kind of old fashioned on that I guess. It's why I still have LP's, CD's, VHS tapes, DVD's, computer discs, etc. And yes, I can still play and use all those formats too. :)
Yeah I'm starting to get to the point where I want to get rid of all my DVD's aside form the ones that are special to me (Trek, Star Wars, Indy, Firefly etc). You know we all have those DVD's we bought from the bargain bin that we've watched once.
New login screen with today's patch!
So is Stormwind able to be accessed at all? That screen makes me think otherwise...
Oh how I miss WoW...
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 23, 2010, 06:17:58 PM
So is Stormwind able to be accessed at all? That screen makes me think otherwise...
Oh how I miss WoW...
King
The zones are still pretty much the same - for now. A few minor things to give you a sense of what's coming in December.
Quote from: Rico on November 23, 2010, 06:25:42 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 23, 2010, 06:17:58 PM
So is Stormwind able to be accessed at all? That screen makes me think otherwise...
Oh how I miss WoW...
King
The zones are still pretty much the same - for now. A few minor things to give you a sense of what's coming in December.
Ahh I see. Despite my issues with WoW, I crave to return to a fantasy game of any kind at this point....but WoW is the only decent one I've found so far.
:(
King
Well now is as good a time as any. Major paladin changes too.
btw as of last patch all the main cities have been re-done.
Quote from: billybob476 on November 24, 2010, 03:39:20 AM
Well now is as good a time as any. Major paladin changes too.
Even with Paladin changes I have a feeling I'd get burned out quickly. Eve Online has been trying to get me back to play. Meh. I'd come back if I could a group of people to do it with, but that's the only way.
King
Holy cow. I logged into my account today for the first time in over a year, maybe two years, can't even remember the last time I played...to find my account had been hacked and sold! I had to deal with Blizzard to have the account re-associated with my email, which surprisingly was done in about five minutes. Once done and I was able to log in, I found someone had been playing my character. He was in an area of Northrend I'd never been and don't remember, all my gear was gone and replaced with PvP gear, my specs and talents were totally different (frost instead of arcane) and my professions had changed to mining and my bags were full of ores. Very very strange. It seems like either my account had been sold and someone was playing it, or just was being used by gold sellers to mine ores and aid in their gold selling operation. I dunno. It's been so long since I've played I don't really remember very much about the way I left things, but I'm sure I wasn't a miner and I know I had more than four gold :(. At least all my mounts and soulbound stuff is still there. I'm very upset. I think I might start a new character from scratch since I really need to relearn the game, so if anyone wants to pal around Azeroth for a while let me know!
Gee - that's too bad. Let us know if you make a character on Earthen Ring. Joe, Mark, and I play there. Mark and I are Alliance and Joe is on the evil Horde side! ;)
I have a tenth level
Priest in papa palpatines! I'd love to play with u guys.
Here's a pic of my main guy in the new part of the Badlands today.
Ah yes, Reico. I was trying to remember what you'd called him but I had it in mind as Reeko. I guess that would have other connotations.
OK, I'll shut up now.
I still need to get out and explore! Theshat is sitting at the flight point in "new" Orgrimmar right now.
I've spent a little time now getting the lay of the land. Orgrimar seems so different, I don't know if it's bigger, or layed out differently or what but it is definitely taking some getting used to. Undercity seems about the same. I haven't been to the other new/old zones in the mainland Azeroth and instead have been working on getting my 77th level priest to 80 and making some money on my 80th lvl Mage so I can purchase the flying skill that allows flight in old world Azeroth.
4000 gold by the way. 4000. It's pretty bogus that they are touting flying in old world Azeroth as a feature of the new expansion...oh yeah, well, only if you happen to have 4000 gold lying around somewhere. Ridiculous.
Joby - I thought I read for "slow" flying in the old world it's 250 gp and "fast" flying it's 5000 gp. Where did you hear or read 4000 gp??
It's an ability purchasable from the flight master, across from the Orgrimar flightpath. The price is listed in game, unless I am misunderstanding.
I hope I'm wrong, because there's alot of things I'd rather do with the money I have, like buying those account bound legacy items that boost XP gains for my alts. I read where now there are four separate items with a stackable XP bonus, so you can gain up to 40% more XP if you have all those items on your alt. Combine that with rested XP and I'll bet the levels fly by!
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on November 29, 2010, 11:25:24 AM
It's an ability purchasable from the flight master, across from the Orgrimar flightpath. The price is listed in game, unless I am misunderstanding.
How can it be in the game already? This is a Cataclysm expansion only ability.
It's not purchasable yet, just listed on the vendor.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on November 29, 2010, 11:48:21 AM
It's not purchasable yet, just listed on the vendor.
Hmm. So did it list two flight training choices? There is suppose to be a low cost and higher cost one.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on November 29, 2010, 11:39:38 AM
I hope I'm wrong, because there's alot of things I'd rather do with the money I have, like buying those account bound legacy items that boost XP gains for my alts. I read where now there are four separate items with a stackable XP bonus, so you can gain up to 40% more XP if you have all those items on your alt. Combine that with rested XP and I'll bet the levels fly by!
Unless they changed things, Heirloom gear (which is what you are referring to) doesn't cost gold, it costs justice points (which you get from running dungeons and raiding), honor points (from PvP) or Champion's Seals (which you get from the Argent Tournament). Frankly making money in WoW has become fairly trivial.
Hmm maybe I should shut up, it's been quite a while since I've been in the game so everything I say should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
Rico, if I am remembering right and my eyes weren't playing tricks on me, there were two flight abilities that I could buy for my character. One was Flying Mastery, which it said was flying at the highest speed possible. I assume this would be the 310 speed mounts since I already have the epic flying speed (300). I forget what that cost, could be 5000 like you said. The other was the Flight Masters License, which was described as the ability to fly in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms, for 4000 gold.
Yes they added cost for the 310% mounts. Previously, if you had a 310% capable mount, you automatically flew at 310%. Now, if you already have a 310% mount you are grandfathered into the top flight skill. If not it will cost, it's 4 or 5K.
Yes I am planning on/hoping to get the "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" achievement (named after a song by my favorite band!) which now newly rewards you with not only the 310 speed flying Purple dragon but also free Flying Mastery!
Yeah that meta-acheivement is a tough one to get! You have to complete all the holiday achievements throughout the year, you miss even one and no meta until next year!
I know, I had been working dilligently on it until Children's Week absolutely screwed me (not the past one but the one before last year). It was the PvP Battleground portions I just couldn't complete, no matter how hard I tried. I got so frustrated it was one of the many reasons I quit the game when I did. But I have all the titles/achievements I need to the meta except for Children's Week and Brewfest. It's going to be a long wait unitl those events come around again but hopefully by then I'll have a good guild that will help me get them done.
I should really quit reading this thread...its only making the itch worse to return.
@Joby Yeah, PVP is a monster in that game. To this day, I don't know why I liked it so much. And liked to hate it. Twas the most fun I ever had and the most non-fun I had. So I can understand that making you quit.
King
Well it just infuriated me because I had done so much to get so far with that achievement, including that horrible random Valentine's Day achievement to get those ten heart shaped candies...I was setting my alarm to remind me to log in every hour near the end of that week before I finally got the ones I needed. Then to fail with the PvP part, just because I suck basically, well it was too disheartening to continue :lol:
As an update to the Azeroth flight issue it does seem now to have changed and the only thing that's at the flight master now is master flying for 4k gold. Weird though, I swear I saw it. I think i might have confused the ability in my spell book (which says see your trainer) with the flight master ability on sale at the vendor, that's probably what happened when I thought i saw it at 4k. Everything I'm reading on beta forums says the cost is 250g which is much more reasonable. Sorry for the confusion
Here are two shots I took of the huge chasm thing that cuts the Barrens in half now.
Cool pics Joe. I want to get down to Stranglethorn Vale and see the changes there and in Booty Bay too.
Don't forget the goblin town in Azshara! Bilgewater Bay or something.
I opened a ticket with Blizz to get my professions reset to where they were before I got hacked. After about an hour I was contacted by a GM in game, who took control of my character and after a little while, I am now 450 Herbalism 449 Inscription again! I am not sure if I should have just kept the mining prof that those hackers got for me, since I really need gold, but I did so much work getting Inscription up there I felt like I should keep it, especially for the expansion.
And I dinged 78 with my Priest! (not the one in Papa Palpatines heh)
Once the expansion hits do you guys think we should get together and create some Worgen to check out the new content as a group, or are you all immediately starting to level your mains? I'd really like to play with some of my TrekSF buds, as well as check out the new voice chat options in the game.
I think that'd be cool if we can coordinate a time. I know Rico and I are already using Earthen Ring on our main servers as it is.
Ugh...Aliiance... :)
I'm game to try something sometime. But keep in mind I play very light and casual. I'm probably most interested in creating a Worgen and leveling them to see some of the new areas, etc. But I may alternate with leveling Reico to 85. Joby - you sound like you are definitely back in the game full force!
Right it'd be cool some weeknight or a Saturday afternoon if 3 or 4 of us could get on and run the worgen starting zones together.
The only problem with Earthen Ring is that it is so heavily populated, the Worgen/Goblin starting zones are going to be mobbed. I'm cool with that though. Let's do it! and yeah Rico, it doesn't take much to get me hooked on this game again, I love it so much!
If we can get a kind of scheduled thing going, whenever is convenient for you all (and my wife and kids *sigh*) I am cool with leaving my Worgen alone unless we are playing together, and then working on my main and other alts at other times. That way we wont outlevel each other.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on November 30, 2010, 07:49:43 AM
The only problem with Earthen Ring is that it is so heavily populated, the Worgen/Goblin starting zones are going to be mobbed. I'm cool with that though. Let's do it! and yeah Rico, it doesn't take much to get me hooked on this game again, I love it so much!
I think even a week or two into the expansion the starting areas will be ok. It's just those first few days that it will be nuts. I like the idea of Saturdays, if you guys have anytime then. That's about the easiest day for me.
Yup Saturday is probably the most ideal for me as well. Frankly the only way I'd run Alliance is with a group. I just can't be without my AIE!
Do Scott and Randy ever actually play? Have you grouped or raided with them?
Nights are better than days for me as we always have family activities planned for the kids on Saturdays. I know Rico is Central time zone, right, what is Toronto Joe?
They are on all the time. They have raid teams that they run regularly with. I've participated with them in various guild events but haven't really ever directly grouped with them. Frankly AIE isn't really about playing with Scott and Randy, people who join with that expectation tend not to stay very long.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on November 30, 2010, 08:31:32 AM
Nights are better than days for me as we always have family activities planned for the kids on Saturdays. I know Rico is Central time zone, right, what is Toronto Joe?
Toronto is Eastern.
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 08:34:35 AM
They are on all the time. They have raid teams that they run regularly with. I've participated with them in various guild events but haven't really ever directly grouped with them. Frankly AIE isn't really about playing with Scott and Randy, people who join with that expectation tend not to stay very long.
There's a new guild cap in the expansion isn't there? AIE is going to be decimated. Are y'all going to split up into AIE.1 and AIE.2 etc?
Ha, this has been a hot topic, when the first announcement came out the Extralife boards were crashing with the traffic.
The current plan as has been communicated by the officers is this: The current guild (about 7000 characters) will be split into a series of subguilds. There will be a semi-automated process performing this action. A mod has been created (in conjunction with some other affected guilds in the game) which will allow "coalition chat" basically meaning that no matter which AIE subguild you belong to, you will still maintain a common chat between them.
So things are rolling and a lot of people have put in a lot of work to handle the transition.
The flight license is not available till the expansion is fully released. It shows as available but you can not buy it yet....
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 09:09:07 AM
Ha, this has been a hot topic, when the first announcement came out the Extralife boards were crashing with the traffic.
The current plan as has been communicated by the officers is this: The current guild (about 7000 characters) will be split into a series of subguilds. There will be a semi-automated process performing this action. A mod has been created (in conjunction with some other affected guilds in the game) which will allow "coalition chat" basically meaning that no matter which AIE subguild you belong to, you will still maintain a common chat between them.
So things are rolling and a lot of people have put in a lot of work to handle the transition.
Joe - did Blizzard ever give any kind of logical reason why they put the guild member cap in? Seems like it really doesn't do a lot. Technically the game could obviously handle bigger guilds so I don't really get it.
With the new guild experience/acheivement system they stated that there were major performance issues with guilds over 1000 members. Also, according to Blizzard such a small percentage of the player base are part of "mega guilds" that it was deemed a reasonable restriction.
Initially the guild cap was 600 members, they raised it to 1000 after the player base complained.
imo Larger guild can hurt MMORPGs. Too much control :)
meh, in a game with 12 million players a guild with 6-7000 characters is pretty trivial.
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 12:32:10 PM
meh, in a game with 12 million players a guild with 6-7000 characters is pretty trivial.
Agreed. An since there was nothing to stop anyone from just subdividing the big guilds I don't see the point still. Frankly, the guilds already subdivide naturally into raid groups, instance groups, PvP, etc. So except for the chat channel, banking maybe, there isn't much of an effect in doing this.
Basically on the beta realms a large guild was created (I think it had 2000-ish members). If you were a member of that large guild and you opened the new guild interface, the game client would outright crash. Apparently the only solution Blizzard had was to limit guild size on account of this new system.
That's also called being lazy imo.
King
That's 12 million players across all the servers. 6k man guild is huge!
I don't know I was part of large guild in SWG,Warhammer, Planet Siege, EGII and I and DOAC. In all those instances the guilds really ran the population of the server. We used to camp stuff 24x7 literally so people could not get anything :)
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
That's also called being lazy imo.
King
How is that called being lazy?
Quote from: Blackride on November 30, 2010, 02:35:41 PM
That's 12 million players across all the servers. 6k man guild is huge!
I don't know I was part of large guild in SWG,Warhammer, Planet Siege, EGII and I and DOAC. In all those instances the guilds really ran the population of the server. We used to camp stuff 24x7 literally so people could not get anything :)
Well granted it is a big guild. We definitely have impact on Earthen Ring (Rico could tell you what impact it has on the Ally side of the fence). Then again it's very much against the spirit of the guild to grief anyone. Frankly if word of that gets back to the officer corps anyone involved would likely be kicked.
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 03:02:47 PM
Quote from: Blackride on November 30, 2010, 02:35:41 PM
That's 12 million players across all the servers. 6k man guild is huge!
I don't know I was part of large guild in SWG,Warhammer, Planet Siege, EGII and I and DOAC. In all those instances the guilds really ran the population of the server. We used to camp stuff 24x7 literally so people could not get anything :)
Well granted it is a big guild. We definitely have impact on Earthen Ring (Rico could tell you what impact it has on the Ally side of the fence). Then again it's very much against the spirit of the guild to grief anyone. Frankly if word of that gets back to the officer corps anyone involved would likely be kicked.
I saw you guys raiding Stormwind I think one day I was on not too long back. Doesn't bother me at all. But it does sound like Blizzard had some technical issues with very large guild sizes. Truth be told, this size limit won't really impact many guilds at all.
Quote from: X on November 30, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
That's also called being lazy imo.
King
How is that called being lazy?
Well, their problem is the interface crashing and their first solution is basically put a size limit on it. Rather than trying other methods. Sorry, but every time I hear a programmer say "Its because its a size issue", I have a hard time believing they couldn't have figured out another way. Especially when said issue is mysteriously fixed several months later.
Admittedly, why bother trying to fix the big guilds, as they said, its only 1% of the entire population.
Oh and yes, before you say anything, I have played several games in the past where they have conquered similar issues by upgrading their software/hardware. It would not be impossible for a giant company like Blizzard to fix this issue. But they'd rather take the easy way out to save time and $$. Business as usual.
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: X on November 30, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
That's also called being lazy imo.
King
How is that called being lazy?
Well, their problem is the interface crashing and their first solution is basically put a size limit on it. Rather than trying other methods. Sorry, but every time I hear a programmer say "Its because its a size issue", I have a hard time believing they couldn't have figured out another way. Especially when said issue is mysteriously fixed several months later.
Admittedly, why bother trying to fix the big guilds, as they said, its only 1% of the entire population.
Oh and yes, before you say anything, I have played several games in the past where they have conquered similar issues by upgrading their software/hardware. It would not be impossible for a giant company like Blizzard to fix this issue. But they'd rather take the easy way out to save time and $$. Business as usual.
King
Or it could be the systems of the user not being able to handle things. There could be any number of reasons, but it seems short sighted to blame them without any proof. It also seems sort of short sighted to think that this is the reason. Again, it could be any number of things. Perhaps these larger guilds are damaging to the fun that others are trying to have? I mean if there are hundreds of people camping an area, that will cause some major slowdown.
It just seems a bit premature to blame Blizzard for a problem that you don't even know is the problem.
Making smaller guilds seem to allow for more guilds to be made. It seems to reduce the ability for one power to dominate a server or the economy. It also does a bit to protect the weak. Image if you are put on someone's hit list and there are 2k plus people after you in a game because you defended yourself from the actions of some twit.
I don't disagree with you and I am only really defending this issue because of AIE. But let's also face facts.
I am a former guild leader of not 1, but actually 3 small guilds. All were slightly successful, but short lived. We were constantly out gunned, out matched by other larger groups. We fought valiantly many times, but eventually we had to give up because we were out numbered. A small guild of 100 or less will always be out matched by a guild of 1000. And AIE for all intents and purposes are just adapting. In the end, its just AIE #1, AIE #2 and AIE #3+. This solves none of those above problems.
Eve Online almost attempted a similar system for Alliances/Corporations. All that would have done is forced the existing corporations and alliances to split up, but it wouldn't have done much. If people want to group up, they will group up. It is human nature and no game mechanic is going to "fix" this.
And if you really piss off someone to enrage 2,000 people to kill you all the time, I gotta give you kudos, that is an achievement in it of itself. (Not that I'm saying you did X).
King
The commonly held belief is that the development team was given an a deadline for which to fix the issue while maintaining current unlimited guild sizes. That deadline came and they had not reached a solution.
I work in software development. I have a common thing I say to stakeholders when they ask me if something is possible to do: "We can do anything you want, the only limitations on us are time and money."
if they wanted this guild advancement system to come out with Cataclysm, this is likely the most feasible solution given the time, money and manpower available.
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 04:09:41 PM
I don't disagree with you and I am only really defending this issue because of AIE. But let's also face facts.
I am a former guild leader of not 1, but actually 3 small guilds. All were slightly successful, but short lived. We were constantly out gunned, out matched by other larger groups. We fought valiantly many times, but eventually we had to give up because we were out numbered. A small guild of 100 or less will always be out matched by a guild of 1000. And AIE for all intents and purposes are just adapting. In the end, its just AIE #1, AIE #2 and AIE #3+. This solves none of those above problems.
Eve Online almost attempted a similar system for Alliances/Corporations. All that would have done is forced the existing corporations and alliances to split up, but it wouldn't have done much. If people want to group up, they will group up. It is human nature and no game mechanic is going to "fix" this.
King
The limit is bieng placed on guilds becuase of a new guild advancement system (http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_advancement (http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_advancement)) that is being implemented, not for any other gameplay balance issues. They are in no way stopping anyone from grouping together and are in fact providing some guidance to the leadership of large guilds in managing the new limits.
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 04:11:09 PM
The commonly held belief is that the development team was given an a deadline for which to fix the issue while maintaining current unlimited guild sizes. That deadline came and they had not reached a solution.
I work in software development. I have a common thing I say to stakeholders when they ask me if something is possible to do: "We can do anything you want, the only limitations on us are time and money."
if they wanted this guild advancement system to come out with Cataclysm, this is likely the most feasible solution given the time, money and manpower available.
You need to go for a run, just saying. :) 4500th post!
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 04:09:41 PM
I don't disagree with you and I am only really defending this issue because of AIE. But let's also face facts.
I am a former guild leader of not 1, but actually 3 small guilds. All were slightly successful, but short lived. We were constantly out gunned, out matched by other larger groups. We fought valiantly many times, but eventually we had to give up because we were out numbered. A small guild of 100 or less will always be out matched by a guild of 1000. And AIE for all intents and purposes are just adapting. In the end, its just AIE #1, AIE #2 and AIE #3+. This solves none of those above problems.
Eve Online almost attempted a similar system for Alliances/Corporations. All that would have done is forced the existing corporations and alliances to split up, but it wouldn't have done much. If people want to group up, they will group up. It is human nature and no game mechanic is going to "fix" this.
King
The limit is bieng placed on guilds becuase of a new guild advancement system (http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_advancement (http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_advancement)) that is being implemented, not for any other gameplay balance issues. They are in no way stopping anyone from grouping together and are in fact providing some guidance to the leadership of large guilds in managing the new limits.
Yeah, I knew that. I was mostly doing my favorite pastime around here, arguing with X ;).
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
Yeah, I knew that. I was mostly doing my favorite pastime around here, arguing with X ;).
King
Sorry, son, you are still in the JV league for that. :)
Quote from: Bryancd on November 30, 2010, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
Yeah, I knew that. I was mostly doing my favorite pastime around here, arguing with X ;).
King
Sorry, son, you are still in the JV league for that. :)
Yeah, but that's why I practice ;).
King
Atta boy, aim high. :)
Quote from: Bryancd on November 30, 2010, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on November 30, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
Yeah, I knew that. I was mostly doing my favorite pastime around here, arguing with X ;).
King
Sorry, son, you are still in the JV league for that. :)
I actually laughed out loud at that! That brightened my day!
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 04:11:09 PM
I work in software development. I have a common thing I say to stakeholders when they ask me if something is possible to do: "We can do anything you want, the only limitations on us are time and money."
if they wanted this guild advancement system to come out with Cataclysm, this is likely the most feasible solution given the time, money and manpower available.
Thank you! I've done my stint in software development and am somewhat fed up with hearing "it's only software there must be a solution".
The answer is "of course there is, how long have you got?".
Equally, comments having a dig at business for trying to make money are really starting to annoy me too. I work for a business and I hope they do make money since I quite like being paid! Constant digs at anyone who charges for anything get old really fast.
Of course as this is a King/X arguement practise arena now, I won't take any of the comment too seriously :D
@feathers
I have done large amounts of development also. When someone asks if they want something done or if it's possible we ALWAYS say:
"How much money and time do you want to spend?"
Well the fact is WoW is and has been for a little while now under the auspices of Activision, a company well known for its "anything for a buck" mentality. So far there's been little evidence of tampering considering WoW is by far the biggest consistent cash cow in gaming, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if this changes. And it certainly wouldn't surprise me if certain Activision bigwigs were looking at potential delays caused by whatever features and simply gave the order to get it done by such and such a date.
Good points Joby. I still think Blizzard has done a great job over the years with WOW and it's other games. I have faith in them, but it always comes down to making money.
I want the name "Bones" for my Worgen but I'm sure it's taken.
There are 130 characters over level 10 with the name "Bones", just choose a server where there isn't one :)
http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchType=all&searchQuery=bones&selectedTab=characters (http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchType=all&searchQuery=bones&selectedTab=characters)
Thought we were rolling ER
Don't think I saw ER on that list. Unless someone has a level 1 placeholder toon holding on to the name you might be ok.
I'll give it a shot but I would faint from shock if someone hasn't already snagged it there...maybe I'll try Bonezz or something. It has the whole giant doggy/star trek thing going on that is too cool to pass up. ;)
Here's a shot of my new undead rogue chatting it up with Sylvanas.
Quote from: Rico on December 01, 2010, 07:10:16 AM
Good points Joby. I still think Blizzard has done a great job over the years with WOW and it's other games. I have faith in them, but it always comes down to making money.
It always annoyed & confused me that Blizzard Merged with Activision. Other than $$, there was no point to the merger. I would quit Activision and EA games for good, (as I find their attitudes toward customers and developers very questionable) except that's impossible as they have their hands on a lot of PC games. Especially Mass Effect 2, so stuck between a rock and a hard place on that one.
Very cool shot Billybob.
King
Quote from: Feathers on December 01, 2010, 03:54:08 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on November 30, 2010, 04:11:09 PM
I work in software development. I have a common thing I say to stakeholders when they ask me if something is possible to do: "We can do anything you want, the only limitations on us are time and money."
if they wanted this guild advancement system to come out with Cataclysm, this is likely the most feasible solution given the time, money and manpower available.
Thank you! I've done my stint in software development and am somewhat fed up with hearing "it's only software there must be a solution".
The answer is "of course there is, how long have you got?".
Equally, comments having a dig at business for trying to make money are really starting to annoy me too. I work for a business and I hope they do make money since I quite like being paid! Constant digs at anyone who charges for anything get old really fast.
Of course as this is a King/X arguement practise arena now, I won't take any of the comment too seriously :D
I have understood for a while that anything is possible in Software development, it just takes a Y amount of time. And most companies only have X amount of time. I just get more suspicious when it comes to bigger and more experienced companies. *Shrugs*.
:)
King
One day left! :)
Woohooo!
Has anyone done any of the new quests yet? I picked up my long-abandoned 51 lvl hunter and found that many of the quests in Felwood have been completely redesigned or are just altogether new. There's Goblin and Worgen areas/towns up north in that zone that are level appropriate to what else is going on there. Cool stuff.
Yes, I've gotten an undead rogue to level 17 or 18. The entire starting quest chains are all 'updated' to post WotLK times. I'm in Silverpine forest now and there's an entire long quest chain that takes you down into Gilneas where you're fighting the Worgen.
I've already seen at least three Wrathgate-style in-engine cutscenes. One of them is a ride with Sylvanas where she explains to you her entire history with Arthas (fully voiced). It's 3 to 5 minutes long.
I wasn't really sure how sweeping the changes would be, but this is an entirely new game. I am very excited.
The thing is that I'm playing Alliance now, which I havent done since 2006 and even then I didn't get past lvl 50 or so. So some of the stuuf I can't tell if it's new or just stuff I haven't seen before. Obviously the Worgen/Goblin content is new. But there was a cool quest line with a bunch of demons at Jadefire run in Felwood that were masquerading as Night Elves, and you eventually have to kill the Arch Druid in Whisperwind Grove. Couldn't tell at all if that was new. There was another of the in engine cut scene type events tied into that where you see the fall of Illiden and his battle with Arthas. That felt new for sure.
My understanding is any of those cutscenes are new. The mechanism to create and play them didn't exist until Wrath.
Well maybe cutscene is not the right description. The quest I saw wasn't like the Wrathgate scene that was in WOTLK, this was more like the end of the epic Thrall/Greatmother questline in BC when Thrall comes to Outland and it shows the climactic events of Warcraft II outside the Greatmother's hut. All in game, in engine, where you have control of your character and can choose to watch or not. I feel fairly certain though that this is new content.
That evil horde guild from a few weeks back invading Stormwind! ;)
lol awesome!
So, anyone level 85 yet? Did anyone get up early and play??
I jumped in this morning to buy my Flight Master's License (200 gold with Exalted Orgrimar rep bonus heh), saw the cutscene in the Maelstrom, ported to Dalaran to unlock my professions (inscription and herbalism) and then zipped to Hyjal to start questing. I saw the quest reward for the first major quest is a chest pice that's item level 267, way way better than my heroic Naxxaramas purples :( Played only about ten minutes overall...dying to get home and get the kids to bed early!
edit: ooh 999 posts...my next one is going to have to be a goodie.
I hear there already is a world first 85. I think Blizzard is looking into it to make sure it wasn't done via an exploit.
Well, of course someone is 85 already. Now, they start the wait for the next expansion already. LOL!
I logged in pre-cata yesterday and my Gatherer addon displayed the following message, it made me chuckle.
There are definetly level 85's on my server already.....
Popped into the game quick for a little bit. Messed around in the new Worgen starting town. Pretty neat. I'll post more pics soon, but here's the character creation area. It's kind of fun how you can set the appearance of the human and wolf side of your Worgen separately.
Isn't a worgen druid kind of redundant? A wolf that transforms into a cat or a bear? :)
Quote from: billybob476 on December 07, 2010, 04:54:13 PM
Isn't a worgen druid kind of redundant? A wolf that transforms into a cat or a bear? :)
I was just thinking the same thing.
Gah, why am I reading this thread, it makes me want to resub to this game. gahhhh I'm like a drug addict o_o
King
Quote from: billybob476 on December 07, 2010, 04:54:13 PM
Isn't a worgen druid kind of redundant? A wolf that transforms into a cat or a bear? :)
I didn't make a druid. That was just selected when I grabbed the screen. I don't even know yet when or how you "wolf out." I didn't in the early fights I was doing.
Well I just started off a few of the 80+ quests. They have really taken the storytelling to the next level. This is gonna be fun.
Big waits to get on the server, but it's fun once you get in. Got my Flying in the old world paid for. Glad the price was what I thought it was. At least for the base flying. So fun to fly around Stormwind and see it from the air. Really looks amazing!
Yeah, I have work friends on Keal'thas and they don't have queues. Earthen Ring is a very high population server. The queues should die down in the next few days.
Quote from: billybob476 on December 08, 2010, 05:41:12 AM
Yeah, I have work friends on Keal'thas and they don't have queues. Earthen Ring is a very high population server. The queues should die down in the next few days.
Yep - it was the same with Lich King and queues. Not a big deal. You know one thing I wished they added was more character slots. I'm kind of an alt-aholic. With these added races I'm pretty filled out now. Maybe tonight I'll try to pop over and do a few 80+ quests. Where's the best place to start for that and is it easy to get to?
Well on the Horde side, the second you arrive in Orgimmar you automatically get a quest notification which tells you to go talk to a guy who brings you up to speed and pushes you into the new content. Much better then Lich King where you had to figure out on your own to go to Northrend.
I am rethinking the Worgen now because of one of those first few quests you do in Hyjal has you fighting the evil worgen...and the sound effects on that special attack they do thats like a beserker slice attack? My god how annoying! I was so glad when those things phased away into oblivion. I was actually considering druid for my Worg but if I have to listen to that slicing sound for the whole levelling process I may lose it!
Joe, is Gatherer working for the new zones yet? Is there a shared database for locations of resources or does it only remember where you personally have found them? I have found about three herbs in as many hours in Hyjal, it is picked clean. I want to start levelling my Inscription and there's no way I'm buying herbs of the AH.
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 06:39:58 AM
Yep - it was the same with Lich King and queues. Not a big deal. You know one thing I wished they added was more character slots. I'm kind of an alt-aholic. With these added races I'm pretty filled out now. Maybe tonight I'll try to pop over and do a few 80+ quests. Where's the best place to start for that and is it easy to get to?
I started in Mt. Hyjal, because I'm a little wary of the other 80+ starting zone being that its completely underwater. It's exactly like WOTLK in that there are two discrete zones to start in that are level appropriate for maxed out 80s. I figured that Hyjal would be a little more familiar and I was right. The quests are cool and fun but certainly not groundbreaking. One of the first ones you do has you fighting one of the old bosses from Molten Core! Neat stuff. Tthe only problem was of course the crowds, but Blizz sems to have speeded up the spawn rates on quest mobs so people are usually in and out. Bigger problems are quests that make you loot items off of the ground, people are savages swooping in as soon as they see them.
I'm in the underwater zone, it's a lot of fun.
With the whole pushing you along, I wonder if any exp. for level 80's can be had in the old, upper level Northrend zones?
Level 80+ only get 10% of the XP from creatures killed in Northrend zones. They are really trying to encourage people to level in the new areas, and this keeps folks that are maxed out on gear from AOE farming older, easier mobs to quickly level up. They have really buffed the power on trash mobs everywhere inthe new zones.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on December 08, 2010, 07:50:10 AM
Level 80+ only get 10% of the XP from creatures killed in Northrend zones. They are really trying to encourage people to level in the new areas, and this keeps folks that are maxed out on gear from AOE farming older, easier mobs to quickly level up. They have really buffed the power on trash mobs everywhere inthe new zones.
I still think this is a mistake on their part. And, with level 85 players already in game it obviously doesn't really matter as far as leveling speed when you average it all out. Eventually you have to go to the next zones. Thanks Blizzard for adding to the new zone crowding.
I doubt many people would be sticking around in Northrend at this point. The crowding will subside quickly. I remeber the first few days of WotLK, Borean Tundra was a madhouse. Not many people hung around in Shadowmoon Valley trying to level to 71.
Quote from: billybob476 on December 08, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
I doubt many people would be sticking around in Northrend at this point. The crowding will subside quickly. I remeber the first few days of WotLK, Borean Tundra was a madhouse. Not many people hung around in Shadowmoon Valley trying to level to 71.
Not trying to level, but finishing old quests (and getting the normal exp. from killing things still). Yeah, most wouldn't do it, but why penalize those that want to finish some stuff up?
On another note, I'm a little concerned about my 80 mage, who has pretty weak gear, in the new zones getting his tiny little gnome behind pounded. Had the same trouble in Outland and Northrend each time in the first zones. I'm sure I'll manage, but that's another reason I like to have the option to stay back a bit, if I decided to do that.
Hm, I don't raid so I'm only in 3 pieces of "entry level" T10 gear. I haven't been having any issues. So far I haven't even had to shield myself when fighting mobs. It may be a bit more of a challenge but I think you should be ok. You also have your water elemental to help you out!
Quote from: Rico on December 08, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
On another note, I'm a little concerned about my 80 mage, who has pretty weak gear, in the new zones getting his tiny little gnome behind pounded. Had the same trouble in Outland and Northrend each time in the first zones. I'm sure I'll manage, but that's another reason I like to have the option to stay back a bit, if I decided to do that.
This is a legitimate concern but remember that quest rewards very quickly even out the playing field. My mage was decked out in the full set of 10 man Naxxaramas purples (Item level 200) which is pretty far below anyone that geared up in Ulduar or ICC. I was shocked at how much damage I took from the first trash mobs I encountered in Hyjal. Pulling an add could very well end in death (and did a couple of times) especially if you don't remember all the ins and outs of the character like me. I wouldn't worry too much though Rico, after all you don't want things to be too easy do you? Frost Mages are probably at the top of the charts when it comes to survivability when soloing, along with hunters and Warlocks who never have to take damage at all. You've got alot of escape options at your disposal.
You might consider speccing Arcane...there's an amazing "get out of jail free" escape option in that talent tree that makes the Invisibility spell instant, which lets you drop out of combat and run away! I do it all the time when there's trouble, it's an invaluable help to me, and it's awesome in PVP from escaping gankers though I know Reico is on a carebear server ;) I love the Arcane Mastery ability that revolves around keeping your mana pool high...the more mana you have the more damage you do. It's like a mini game within the real game keeping your mana topped off.
I'll see how things go. But I'd miss my little water elemental pet from my ice spec.
Dual spec is cheap these days :)
Quote from: billybob476 on December 08, 2010, 09:50:06 AM
Dual spec is cheap these days :)
Joe, I barely know how to play one spec well these days with all the changes. LOL!
hehe same here, since priests got talents refund twice lately I just restored my shadow spec. One of these days I'll address my previous discipline-PvP spec.
I actually bought dual spec a couple days ago (seemed redundant until now with a Mage...hmm should i spec DPS, DPS, or DPS?) but with the new talent trees, playing a differently specced mage is like playing a completely different character. I tried Frost for the first time and found it really complicated worrying about all the cooldowns and procs(Icy Veins, Deep Freeze, Fingers of Frost) and switched right back to the Arcane I am relatively familiar with
Cooldowns and procs? I just Frost Bolt them and send in the pet. LOL! ;)
Haha, well I'm thinking about it from a raiding perspective. Frost has been buffed to where average DPS is comparable to fire and arcane in raiding for the first time.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on December 08, 2010, 10:54:59 AM
Haha, well I'm thinking about it from a raiding perspective. Frost has been buffed to where average DPS is comparable to fire and arcane in raiding for the first time.
Actually Frost used to be above all. This was a little while ago. Then Blizzard boosted Arcane a lot. I'm not a raiding player, so none of it matters much to me.
Still got awhile till raiding, I don't even qualify to run a cataclysm random dungeon yet!
I thought Frost was mainly for PvPers, and that Frostfire or Pure Fire specs followed closely by Arcane were the main raiding specs for mages. Of course I haven't been following WoW for more than a year so my info is out of date.
Frost remains the preferred levelling spec as well.
Oh, besides the other goodies in the collector edition I got this cool poster too from Best Buy. It's about 18" x 24" or so.
So many of my friends have gone radio (internet) silence since this game came out.
Well, took Reico to one of the first new zones (Mt. Hyjal). Died once, but mainly because there are so many people around it's hard to see what's going on. Got a second MOB on me. But it's fun and already got a new robe in quest one there that was way better than my old one. Who needs raiding? LOL! Here's me flying to the new zone passing by Deathwing.
Cool! I went to Vash'jir or whatever it's called so I'm floating around underwater on my seahorse mount. Pics to follow.
cool mount
Here's a shot
Cool Joe. Is the mount just given to you for use in the zone or certain quests? How did the crowding seem last night?
It's a quest reward, it's a full on official mount that gets permanently added to your collection but it's aquatic only, like the druid aqautic form. I think it can be used in any water. The crowding was better last night, No queue around 6pm and then about 500 at 9pm. I think this weekend might be bad and then it should die down.
When you say there was queue you mean to log on at all or just the zone?
To log in, Earthen Ring is a high population server.
I logged in about 6pm central time last night to Earthen Ring and got right in. I'll probably play early on Saturday to hopefully avoid the wait times. It did seem a bit easier to get in last night. I actually want the first wave of level 80 players to sort of move ahead a bit and I'll just follow their wake in the new zones. :)
Well with my small amount on questing in Vash'jir last night I already replaced two item 232 items (head and neck) with quest greens. You won't be in 'crappy' gear for very long Rico. A coworker of mine was in full ICC gear and he's already replaced at least 4 pieces.
Quote from: billybob476 on December 09, 2010, 07:26:36 AM
Well with my small amount on questing in Vash'jir last night I already replaced two item 232 items (head and neck) with quest greens. You won't be in 'crappy' gear for very long Rico. A coworker of mine was in full ICC gear and he's already replaced at least 4 pieces.
Yeah, I'm happy about that. The new robe is MUCH better than my old one. And all I had to do was kill 8 rock creatures (die once) for it! Looking forward to not looking so wimpy soon. ;)
The only thing I don't like is that my old helm looked *really* cool :) The new one isn't quite as menacing. Oh well!
I'm not crazy about losing the set bonuses from all my tiered gear either but oh well. The extra int stam and spellpower makes up for it I guess
I took off the morning from work today to play (shh don't tell my wife or my boss) and found the most awesome quest in the new Hyjal section...some spoilers ahead.
Basically you take a portal inside to a system of caves, and meet up with the quest giver who lends you a flying mount that operates using the new vehicle system they introduced last expansion. You have to hit a button to flap your wings and it is very bouncy. The quest giver explains how to fly and tells you to take a lance off the weapons rack behind him, then instructs you to fly off and kill ten birds flying around the cave behind him. The last thing he says is something to the effect of "Good luck, Buzzard Bait" and I realized that the whole quest is a three dimensional homage to the old video game Joust! You fly around and kill waves of birds with your lance, there's two waves and the third is an egg wave! At the end you get an achievement called "Beware the unbeatable Pterodactyl" and you win either a gold or blue non combat pet that looks like 3d representations of the little player characters from the video game Joust. So freaking cool I almost peed myself!
Here's a pic of my Mage hanging out with Thrall in the Maelstrom...this game looks incredible.
Dude, you are really back into this game now! How did you live all those months while you were away? ;)
Well I have plenty to do to keep me busy, that's for sure. It didn't take me long to get back up on the horse. I have a feeling my family won't put up with it for long, so I am going to capitalize on my wife's goodwill, generated from her happiness to have this new computer, and enjoy myself while I can. Are we going to play our Worgen tonight?
I'm up for some Worgen action later on. Heading out for a bit for some shopping but pretty much later this afternoon and evening are open for me.
Work Christmas party tonight so I won't be around. Have fun guys!
What server are you on and let me know your names. I might hop on there just to have some fun if you guys don't mind.
Rico and I are both on Earthen Ring, he's primarily Alliance side and I'm primarily Horde side but I'll be roiling a Worgen :)
Can you guys post you names on here? Mine is always Dayma.
My Worgen is named Bonezz on Earthen Ring. That server might be locked for new players right now, I know they're offering free moves off due to the queues.
Well, I played my mage a bit more last night in Hyjal. I first bought a couple new pieces of fairly cheap gear from the auction house to boost up my AC mainly. Seemed to help. I'm not getting my little gnome butt kicked as much now, especially if adds get on me. So things went a bit smoother. I should be 85 by spring. ;)
I dinged 81 last night on my priest. Fun!
I'm just finishing up Uldum, a very cool area themed around ancient Egypt, with a new race of half tiger half human characters populating the area west of Tanaris. [spoiler]There's a huge, long questline there that involves Harrison Jones, and is of course very reminiscent of the Raiders of the Lost Ark storyline, delving into ancient pyramids, solving puzzles, and ultimately unearthing something very much like the lost Ark of the Covenant. Very cool.[/spoiler] My mage is a little more than halfway through 84. I want to start doing some of the five man instances on normal before I ding 85 and I'm expected to jump into the heroic versions, so when I finish up the quests in Uldum I think I'm going to hold off on heading into the last new area, Twilight Highlands.
I just got done with the water zone. I am about sick of the water stuff :(
My guy is almost 83. I think I m going to switch from a Warrior Tank to Warrior DPS. The Tank is being such a pain in the butt to play in Cataclysm. Any thoughts on this"?
Quote from: Blackride on December 15, 2010, 12:15:15 PM
I just got done with the water zone. I am about sick of the water stuff :(
My guy is almost 83. I think I m going to switch from a Warrior Tank to Warrior DPS. The Tank is being such a pain in the butt to play in Cataclysm. Any thoughts on this"?
I never played as a tank, or any kind of melee for that matter. Every one of my toons is a ranged class: Mage is my main, and 79 lvl Shadow Priest, 70 lvl Warlock, and 60 lvl Hunter are my primary alts. I think I'm going to restart my Worgen as a druid and roll a Goblin Rogue, so I can tell you then how I feel about the melee characters then. I like the idea that the druid can fulfill all three primary roles with talent distribution.
Just a little heads up, one of my friends who plays WOW just recently got his account hacked. Items gone, gold gone, etc. The hackers even had been leveling one of his level 80 guys even though the account was only out of his hands for maybe a day. Blizzard has restored it all now. So keep an eye on Spyware, viruses, keyloggers, and so forth. Another good tool to use is something called Process Link 2 that will show you all the Windows processes going (if you are on a Windows machine). Also, maybe order one of those authenticator keychain things. Blizzard also suggested he change his Battle.net email to a new email that he only uses for WOW. Just some suggestions to keep your account secure.
I have linked the authenticator on my iPhone to my battle.net account so I highly recommend ppl getting the keychain one or iPhone/iPod touch one. Considering how high value WOW accounts are these days, gold sellers are looking for anyway to hack into your account.
King
Well, Sapphyre, my mage did the big ding a little while ago in Twilight Highlands. Now the real grind begins...getting my DPS up to where my guild might want to take me on some raids. Time for some heroics...
Let's do the Time Warp again!
I ordered the key fob and will have it thursday. Its pretty much RSA....
My guy is almost 85. I have about .5 to go. The quests are definitely fun. Yes there are lots of the basic kill tasks but there are so many others types that make it fun!
Almost there:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/terenas/dayma/simple (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/terenas/dayma/simple)
Not sure if anyone else has seen this. Its at Bittertide Lake
That's pretty cool!
The island is everywhere 0_0
King
Almost there...
Got level 81 tonight. Should be 85 before the next expansion. ;)
Here's my 81...awesome stamina items got him to 40,000 health. Definitely need that in this place.
The new Heroics are insane. I almost wish they knock them back. I got kicked from 3 groups because I was not PERFECT. Really aggrivating.
Here's a pic of my little gnome in Ironforge on his flying reindeer!
Quote from: Rico on January 01, 2011, 08:54:49 AM
Here's a pic of my little gnome in Ironforge on his flying reindeer!
LOL their xmas stuff was pretty cool.....
Was doing Vash'jir on my Priest and got to the part where you finally find the flightmaster that connects to the old world, and was checking out the flightpaths when I accidently flew to Stranglethorn Vale, now I'm on an uninterruptable 20 minute flight path. Why after six years haven't they added the ability to cancel a flight?
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on January 21, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
Was doing Vash'jir on my Priest and got to the part where you finally find the flightmaster that connects to the old world, and was checking out the flightpaths when I accidently flew to Stranglethorn Vale, now I'm on an uninterruptable 20 minute flight path. Why after six years haven't they added the ability to cancel a flight?
Logging out should fix that....(hopefully), if not, there is always the magic GM. ;)
King
I think if you log out for ten minutes when you log back in youll get off at the next stop, but that doesnt really save you any time
That's when you take the dog for a walk or take a break! ;)
P.S. Oh, I'm level 82 now. LOL! :)
Here's Theshat at level 82. We all sure are taking our time aren't we!
My priest is halfway to 84 now, I just dual specced to Holy and healed my first two instances today. I didn't do too bad, kept the tank alive but had a hard time with other party members if they pulled agro or did something stupid. I like healing I think, it's very different than DPS which is the role I'm so used to. I can't stand waiting for 45 minutes or more to queue for dungeons, though, so I'm shelving the Mage for a while since the healer queues are practically instantaneous.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on January 22, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
My priest is halfway to 84 now, I just dual specced to Holy and healed my first two instances today. I didn't do too bad, kept the tank alive but had a hard time with other party members if they pulled agro or did something stupid. I like healing I think, it's very different than DPS which is the role I'm so used to. I can't stand waiting for 45 minutes or more to queue for dungeons, though, so I'm shelving the Mage for a while since the healer queues are practically instantaneous.
Heh, the always amusing part of Wow is the sheer lack of healers, even in the rebalanced WoW. Its not an easy job for sure...and yes, you'll always have trouble with "stupid" DPSers. But the upside is there is very little wait for instances. Had that issue a lot as a Holy Paladin...*shudders*.
King
My main in Everquest was a cleric, but I haven't played a healer in WOW yet. Maybe I'll start one after I get my mage to 85 in another few months. ;)
My priest dinged 85 a few days ago and I've healed about three level 85 instances with much success. I like healing to an extent but it is way more stressful than DPS. It's like the whole world rests on your shoulders. I'm glad the priest has a viable DPS option in the Shadow specialization, if I decide to forego healing in the future. In the meantime, I have a lot of gearing up to do before I can get into heroics and really test myself. I need to replace probably seven or eight gear slots before I can even start to heal heroics.
I've also been starting to really enjoy my Goblin Warrior named Thingamagig. He just hit level 20 and got his Goblin Trike. So much fun. I caved and renewed my subscription for another month. Taking it day by day.
If you think healing in regular instances is hard wait for Heroics. It completly is a different beast!
Quote from: Blackride on February 06, 2011, 02:58:33 AM
If you think healing in regular instances is hard wait for Heroics. It completly is a different beast!
I've been hearing a lot of..."murmuring" about this round of Heroics.
King
Ran across this quest while I was levelling my undead rogue. You play a quest giver and random NPCs come by to get quests form you. Hilarious.
That's awesome! Old Undead Spice!
Hmm, not sure I want the undead version of red spice ;)
King
For anyone who wants to get the WOW expansion still, it's on sale here for about the next 40 hrs. or so. This place does two day sales all the time. Some really good deals too.
http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=112844850&extid=Feb2211 (http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=112844850&extid=Feb2211)
Well I took my Holy Priest into her first raid last night. We tried one of the first bosses in Blackwing Descent - Magmaw, on ten man difficulty. Supposedly it's one of the easier encounters, but that wasn't my experience. We were owned, it was a disaster. We're trying again tonight though, hopefully it goes better.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on March 16, 2011, 10:40:56 AM
Well I took my Holy Priest into her first raid last night. We tried one of the first bosses in Blackwing Descent - Magmaw, on ten man difficulty. Supposedly it's one of the easier encounters, but that wasn't my experience. We were owned, it was a disaster. We're trying again tonight though, hopefully it goes better.
Yep, easier than the rest by far. It tooks us about 10 times though to get it down though. Now that we do , we can farm him :) One mistake and poof!
New WOW mount coming soon to the Blizzard store for $25.
So, finally got level 83. Yes, I level like snails move. Just haven't had a lot of play time in the last several weeks. Anyway, been tossing around the idea of doing the Netherwing faction thing to get that cool mount. Has anyone done this in WOW yet? Joby?? Joe??? It looks to be just a faction grinding thing. Can you solo the whole thing? Probably take me forever, but I love those big, dragon like mounts.
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Quote from: Rico on April 23, 2011, 05:21:23 PM
So, finally got level 83. Yes, I level like snails move. Just haven't had a lot of play time in the last several weeks. Anyway, been tossing around the idea of doing the Netherwing faction thing to get that cool mount. Has anyone done this in WOW yet? Joby?? Joe??? It looks to be just a faction grinding thing. Can you solo the whole thing? Probably take me forever, but I love those big, dragon like mounts.
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I did it, it took a long while and your going to be running around a lot of roaming elites in the area so expect to die sometimes...but you should be fine. (Unless Blizz nerfed them). I did it during Burning Crusade, its fun, the mount is my favorite in the game and it is a tad grindy, but there is plenty of variety of quests to grind the faction so you should be ok. Also, the end quest is fun too :)
So get it!
King
Thanks for the info. The elites shouldn't be too much of a problem. Bit higher in level now. Maybe I'll give it a go. :)
True point, the elites should be fairly easy to avoid at your level 83 considering I had to fight/avoid them at 70. ;)
King
I have an Onyx Netherwing Drake on my Mage. It took an awful long time but I did it at level 70. At 83 the bulk of the quests should be cake to solo, for the most part the majority of them were easily soloable at 70. There's two parts I remember needing groups for, at the very beginning of the quest chain to open up the island, and at the very end, but I would guess that these would be soloable at your current level or at least duoable. The Netherwing quests as a whole were very fun, and chock full of funny and interesting bits of lore. By the end though I was very glad to be done, and you really felt like you earned that reward. I was super glad to never have to set foot in those caves ever again, I know that Tim knows what I'm talking about.
Along the same lines, I heard that as part of the next patch they are mainstreaming (making easier) the Spectral Tiger daily grind in Winterspring for all you Alliance wussies. That might be another one you'd consider doing after the patch hits.
The only issue with doing dailies is that they take long enough for people that play every day. For someone that logs once or twice a week you might be doing these for a year or more.
One reason I was thinking of trying to make a go of this is it might make me log on more often. Right now, just questing to level up a bit more isn't really pushing me to hop online. But if I had a goal like this, maybe I could pop in most days for an hour or so and work on it. I started a little of it yesterday - just the first few quests. I'll let you know if I stick with it.
Ugh, those caves...those caves....I'm glad never to see that mess of mobs either...
King
Having fun with this quest so far. I'm up to Friendly reputation now, but a long way to go. Rescued this dragon's mate and she gave me a ride. Whee!!!!
Were you able to solo the quests? Is this for a mage or lock?
Quote from: sheldor on May 01, 2011, 06:41:58 AM
Were you able to solo the quests? Is this for a mage or lock?
Yes - soloing is easy at level 83. The mount can be used by any class.
Well, up to Honored rep now with Netherwing.
way to go, youre moving quick
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 04, 2011, 08:22:12 AM
way to go, youre moving quick
Yeah - it's pretty easy at the level I'm at. Just plow through stuff. A bit of grinding, but I've been trying to get on when I can to do the daily stuff. The revered will take longer than the last chunk did, but I'll get there. It's kind of fun!
You hit the caves yet? Those ravagers were MEAN at level 70. Since you've got me thinking about them I'm of half a mind to go there just to mow some down for the hell of it now.
Oh and don't forget when you get to the part where you can turn in Eggs for extra rep, it can make things go alot faster. Plus you might be able to find them easier nowadays when there isn't quite so much competition for them. You should easily be able to find maps with their specific spawn points and just make a few runs to collect them.
We were doing similar stuff with the old content. Taking our Cata raiding groups out for mounts in the old content is funny.....
Still fun to do even though its very easy.
Just did enough Halloween quests to get my 'Feline Familiar' companion. The kitty has a little hat and rides a broom when you are mounted. It takes a few seconds to dismount after you do, so the second pic shows me with the cat still on his broomstick.
Yes, still playing some WOW. I just FINALLY finished getting enough Netherwing faction to get to exalted and be rewarded with a Netherwing Drake. Took me months of off and on faction grinding to do it, but I got there. Here's my new ride in WOW!
Quote from: Rico on May 09, 2012, 06:02:18 PM
Yes, still playing some WOW. I just FINALLY finished getting enough Netherwing faction to get to exalted and be rewarded with a Netherwing Drake. Took me months of off and on faction grinding to do it, but I got there. Here's my new ride in WOW!
The Netherwing mount remains my favorite mount they ever made in WoW. :)
King
Yeah, it's pretty cool. It just took a LONG time to do all the faction questing to earn it. I think I want to start now gathering some additional pets for the upcoming pet battles coming in the Mists of Pandaria expansion.
Aye it took me about a month of pretty regular play to get my faction up. Man I hated those Ravager caves! It was worth it though, especially before WOTLK when they added 18 thousand different flying mounts. There was such a sense of fulfillment and accomplishment when you finally get to pick out your color.
Playing some WOW on my big, 60" HDTV today to see how I like it. I have a spare PC around now since I built my new one. It works well for this. I just need a wireless keyboard & mouse and maybe a low to the ground chair to sit in.
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