So, I thought we could use a thread for this. I really hadn't had time to look at all the new stuff yet. Partly since I don't have an iPhone, I didn't think it would change a lot on the iPad - but I guess it does. Anyway, post your comments and thoughts here.
http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html (http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html)
So, first question....
Does iCloud have any type of storage limit and is it automatic?
5 GB for free, however that doesn't apply to anything purchased via iTunes.
http://www.apple.com/icloud/what-is.html (http://www.apple.com/icloud/what-is.html)
QuoteFree gets you a lot.
When you sign up for iCloud, you automatically get 5GB of free storage. And that's plenty of room, because of the way iCloud stores your content. Your purchased music, apps, books, and TV shows, as well as your Photo Stream, don't count against your free storage. Since your mail, documents, Camera Roll, account information, settings, and other app data don't use as much space, you'll find that 5GB goes a long way. And if you need more storage, you can easily purchase a storage upgrade right from your device.
Quote from: Rico on October 12, 2011, 08:52:23 AM
So, first question....
Does iCloud have any type of storage limit and is it automatic?
It has 5GB that you can use, I do not know anything more than that since iCloud is still unavailable for another hour. If by automatic you mean it pushes stuff to your devices, then yes.
Backups are also automatic on a minimum daily basis when charging, but still unsure.
Argh, Billybob nijad me.
King
Personally, looking forward to:
Notification center and the improvements here.
Twitter integration.
and the cloud & wireless sync.
The rest of course should be great, but those three features are what I reallllllly want.
King
LifeHacker has some quick guides on how to set up the new iOS5 services:
http://lifehacker.com/5846372/how-to-set-up-and-configure-all-the-new-features-in-ios-5 (http://lifehacker.com/5846372/how-to-set-up-and-configure-all-the-new-features-in-ios-5)
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on October 12, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: Rico on October 12, 2011, 08:52:23 AM
So, first question....
Does iCloud have any type of storage limit and is it automatic?
It has 5GB that you can use, I do not know anything more than that since iCloud is still unavailable for another hour. If by automatic you mean it pushes stuff to your devices, then yes.
Backups are also automatic on a minimum daily basis when charging, but still unsure.
Argh, Billybob nijad me.
King
King, what do you mean another hour? Is iCloud coming today? How about iOS5?
Quote from: QuadShot on October 12, 2011, 09:38:38 AM
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on October 12, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: Rico on October 12, 2011, 08:52:23 AM
So, first question....
Does iCloud have any type of storage limit and is it automatic?
It has 5GB that you can use, I do not know anything more than that since iCloud is still unavailable for another hour. If by automatic you mean it pushes stuff to your devices, then yes.
Backups are also automatic on a minimum daily basis when charging, but still unsure.
Argh, Billybob nijad me.
King
King, what do you mean another hour? Is iCloud coming today? How about iOS5?
From what I've heard its supposed to be out at 10:00am PST. iCloud is technically available now, (you can go to icloud.com) but you need iOS5 or Mac OSX Lion in order to use it.
King
iOS 5 is now available. :)
King
Cool. But now I have to wait until 5:00 to get it. :(
Hmm appears some folks online are encountering upgrade errors on both iPhones and iPads, I think I'll be holding off for a few days.
Quote from: billybob476 on October 12, 2011, 01:22:03 PM
Hmm appears some folks online are encountering upgrade errors on both iPhones and iPads, I think I'll be holding off for a few days.
Yeah, I'm getting nowhere fast.
The notifications are really all that I'm interested in although I guess I'll benefit passively from the backups etc.
I got my iPad on iOS5, but having some issues with iCloud so clearly Apple is having some issues.
King
I'm all set on my iPhone, messing around with it.
Getting some errors just trying to update iTunes to start with. :(
Yeah the update servers are getting hammered by all us geeks. I'm downloading the update now.
I can't get mine to work on my ipad. ugh. Keep getting errors after waiting for a long time....
Probably won't kill you guys to just wait until tomorrow to download it. Just saying.
86 minutes to go to just get the download....
- I think someone needs to teach Apple the Blizzard Entertainment way of patches and updates.
all my ios devices working seemlessly :) .......
Quote from: Bryancd on October 12, 2011, 05:00:34 PM
Probably won't kill you guys to just wait until tomorrow to download it. Just saying.
Yes it will Bryan! ;)
King
got my iPhone updated, now 28 mins for the iPad. I wonder if I'm connecting the the same server instances as you guys or if I am getting it via "Canadian" iTunes.
got my ipad down to 2 minutes restoring.... yay. Now the ipod touch.
Quote from: Bryancd on October 12, 2011, 05:00:34 PM
Probably won't kill you guys to just wait until tomorrow to download it. Just saying.
I will hold off till the weekend then hit the update for my iPhone. Although it galls me to do so.. ;)
Does restoring apps take awhile to do? Seems crazy slow at this stage of the update.
Quote from: Rico on October 12, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
Does restoring apps take awhile to do? Seems crazy slow at this stage of the update.
Yeah, it's taking a while for restoring, dunno why.
King
Yeah took a long time on both devices. I thought it was hung up at one point since the iPhone itself didn't seem like it was in 'sync mode'.
Well, both devices are up to date so that's good. So far, its been fairly smooth upgrade from my side of things.
King
Finally - success! I think. ;)
I am looking forward to eliminating my texting plan since I only text my wife and she has a iPhone too.
Well, I'm setup with iMessage and everything. :) Real surprised at all they added in this update.
King
Did the iPhone last night, download took about 1 hour but it upgraded without issue.
Waited until this morning to do the iPad. Download took 2 minutes! Currently restoring so fingers crossed....
My mate lost all his photos and 70% of his apps. Thank goodness for back up. Dan do you have a 4 or 3Gs?
3GS
Had no issues. I did a manual backup first then downloaded the update ONLY. Waited for everything to complete then updated the phone.
The update was pig to perform time-wise (server issues) but was almost painless in terms of errors etc (although it did drop out in 'brick' state at one point).
The main problem I had was too much content so the restore dropped out through being unable to fit everything back on the device. I had to manually resync the music but that wasn't a big deal in the end.
The main things I'm happy with are:
a) Notifications: as expected, an improvement over what went before although I haven't really decided how best to configure them yet
b) iMessage: interesting but only if I can persuade the family to set it up on their devices
c) keyboard shortcuts: this was a surprise feature I hadn't heard about in advance. PalmOS had it a decade ago and it's a godsend if you have an email address with a long surname in it (for example)
d) Week view calendar: Finally!
Of the others, at the moment:
a) WiFi sync: We'll see. I only really sync for OS updates anyway so I don't think this is a big deal.
b) iCloud: Again, we'll see.
I'm sure I'll post on other little tweaks as I find them.
For anyone with an iPad, how is Safari? Is tabbed browsing cool? I think that, along with iMessage, is my most looked forward to feature.
Tabbed browsing is very nice!
I've been using 2 or 3 other browsers so tabbed browsing is not really new or special for me. Frankly, I think all I will really use with the update is iCloud. No real need for most of the rest for me on my iPad.
Being slow, it's just occurred to me that iMessage will make for a really great transatlantic SMS service so I can text all you US people to death :)
For some reason, this idea feels more 'personal' (or maybe private?) than a tweet or a facebook message.
Quote from: Rico on October 13, 2011, 04:50:57 AM
I've been using 2 or 3 other browsers so tabbed browsing is not really new or special for me. Frankly, I think all I will really use with the update is iCloud. No real need for most of the rest for me on my iPad.
That will only be true until we all start iMessging you :D
Quote from: Feathers on October 13, 2011, 04:53:32 AM
Being slow, it's just occurred to me that iMessage will make for a really great transatlantic SMS service so I can text all you US people to death :)
For some reason, this idea feels more 'personal' (or maybe private?) than a tweet or a facebook message.
Quote from: Rico on October 13, 2011, 04:50:57 AM
I've been using 2 or 3 other browsers so tabbed browsing is not really new or special for me. Frankly, I think all I will really use with the update is iCloud. No real need for most of the rest for me on my iPad.
That will only be true until we all start iMessging you :D
Yep I've sent a few test iMessages already! :)
Quote from: Rico on October 13, 2011, 04:50:57 AM
I've been using 2 or 3 other browsers so tabbed browsing is not really new or special for me. Frankly, I think all I will really use with the update is iCloud. No real need for most of the rest for me on my iPad.
True I've used icab which has tabs but I always seem to go back to Safari for main browsing so it's nice to have it there.
Wifi sync is handy but like Mike I only used to sync for updates and backups which can can done wirelessly now so... Well it's set up and will do it automatically so it's nice to have.
I know that the wireless backup is supposed to happen when you plug the device into a power source...does that occur in the background or does it limit your ability to use the device? I know with previous versions when you are syncing over a wired connection you can't do anything else unless you cancel out.
I would really like to see a 'Delete All' from the mailboxes is that included by any chance? I kicked off the download at home - and will update the phone when I get home tonight.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 13, 2011, 07:20:52 AM
I know that the wireless backup is supposed to happen when you plug the device into a power source...does that occur in the background or does it limit your ability to use the device? I know with previous versions when you are syncing over a wired connection you can't do anything else unless you cancel out.
It happens in the background. If you plug in to charge and the screen locks it will start to backup. Or you can do it manually in the settings.
I prefer to have it backed up on my PC still too.
When you dock it to your computer, does iTunes still do the local backup even if you have iCloud active?
Quote from: billybob476 on October 13, 2011, 08:30:44 AM
When you dock it to your computer, does iTunes still do the local backup even if you have iCloud active?
Not sure. I picked "My Computer" for backing the device up and iCloud for just storage of files/content.
Yeah I may change that back, I'd rather have it local.
I think you can do both.
I thought it was a heck of a lot of data to back up the entire iPad to the "Cloud."
Oh - does accessing data via iCloud if you use an iPhone on 3g count against your data plan? I'm guessing it does.
Yes, I set it to only sync on wifi.
Quote from: Rico on October 13, 2011, 08:40:27 AM
I thought it was a heck of a lot of data to back up the entire iPad to the "Cloud."
Oh - does accessing data via iCloud if you use an iPhone on 3g count against your data plan? I'm guessing it does.
Well I don't have a lot of media stored on my iPad but it took up a good 1gb+ of my 5gb. The good thing is after the initial backup it will only backup the changes so unless you add tons of data to you device day in day out then this shouldn't take long at all.
When I said data, I really meant Apps. Apps take up a lot of room. At least some of the ones I have.
Yeah most of my data is apps. I guess if you a lot of apps I would disable the backup of apps as these are easily retrieved from the app store for free.
I have about 900 photos on my phone, that plus app data put my backup around 2 gigs.
For some reason it takes minimum of 1GB to back up your device. Not entirely sure
King
To make it quicker to get you to the 5 gig cap so you pay! :)
Quote from: billybob476 on October 13, 2011, 09:38:14 AM
To make it quicker to get you to the 5 gig cap so you pay! :)
Lol probably. But based on how much my apps are using, I have doubts I'll hit the limit. I have over 100 apps last I checked!
King
..as Apple wraps you all even further into it's ecosytem arms.. :) Love it.
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on October 13, 2011, 10:39:28 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on October 13, 2011, 09:38:14 AM
To make it quicker to get you to the 5 gig cap so you pay! :)
Lol probably. But based on how much my apps are using, I have doubts I'll hit the limit. I have over 100 apps last I checked!
King
It's the photo stream that'll get ya. Especially with the higher rez camera on the 4S.
I read there's currently no way to delete individual photos from the photo stream, making things a bit inconvenient just in case you've "accidently" taken a compromising picture or two that you don't want automatically downloaded to all your devices. That's a bit of a deal breaker for me...service going "off" until they post a fix for that
The question is: who has access to your devices that could possible see something bad? ;)
King
Well, my wife, and my children, hypothetically. But while I dont take alot of pictures and certainly none I would be worried about them seeing, I imagine there's a possibility that there are some folks out there that might not be as pure of heart as myself. Mila Kunis and Scarlett Johannsen say hello by the way.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 13, 2011, 12:50:27 PM
Mila Kunis and Scarlett Johannsen say hello by the way.
I could use a few more of those!
What do you all think about the Newsstand?
My newstand is empty. I love the imessage system. Anyone want to send me their number DM me & we can free text.
Meds, you have to visit the store and put things in there...
Doh!
Oh this is cool.
Almost done my restore...cant wait to check this out!
Quote from: Dangelus on October 13, 2011, 08:59:02 AM
Yeah most of my data is apps. I guess if you a lot of apps I would disable the backup of apps as these are easily retrieved from the app store for free.
iCloud backup doesn't backup the apps, that what the App store is for. I guess it stores a list of what you've got installed but the apps themselves don't take up any of the storage space.
I also don't think you can select both destinations for backup. The HMI is pretty clear when you select iCloud backup it will no loger backup to the PC. Since I don't connect to the PC, that's not a big deal for me.
I see. It's all still very new and a lot of people are having issues. My updates went fine but I did my wife's phone last night and everything went well apart from it wiped all her contacts! :(
I was up late trying to fix it as I new she wouldn't be very happy with me lol. Got them back after doing a restore from a previous backup. Eventually!!
It's strange because I read the issue was syncing your contacts to iCloud wipes them as iCloud doesn't have any contacts in it. Crazy. Even crazier I followed the same process with my iPad and iPhone and I didn't have this issue at all.
The sync to iCloud said it would 'Merge' with the current data. I didn't have a problem but then my contacts are Exchange synced to Google so separate from iCloud. Havin said that, I did have one or two on the iPhone list an I do still have them.
The rule with all updates like this, fully backup first! :)
Quote from: Rico on October 14, 2011, 05:28:27 AM
The rule with all updates like this, fully backup first! :)
I did with all devices. I blame my wife's phone. It's always had issues with updates, that's why she hates me doing it! ;)
Just noticed if you have wifi sync setup and your PC is switched on but iTunes is not, when you plug in your device to the mains it fires up iTunes automatically and starts the sync.
Impressive! :)
I have the OS on my iPad now, and I'm pretty pleased with the changes. I'm not using the cloud for anything yet, because the best feature...backup and anytime download of all purchased apps, music, and movies is available by default as long as you attach your apple ID (and has been for a while now actually.) I plan to continue my manual backup on my iMac when and where I choose. In general I am opposed to automatic updating and backup of anything. I like to be in control. I think this stems from back when I had an HP laptop that would grind to a halt every time my antivirus program would automatically run whatever it was doing in the background. But especially with the iPad and iPhone that I use most of the day, I want to decide what's on there, when it goes there, when it updates, syncs, and backs up.
I really like the improvements to Safari. I tried that Dolphin browser that was recommended here a while back, and didn't care for it. The tabbed browsing in Safari is great. I did have some crashes after updating...specifically when I was messing around with the private browing option in the settings menu. Overall browsing seems much quicker and more responsive, most noticeably when switching between tabs. I hated how the page would reload every time you switched windows in the old version. A terrific improvement. I also like the addition of the ability to save webpages for offline reading at a later time...a great feature for us non 3G iPad users.
Newsstand seems like it could be cool, but I refuse to pay $5 or more per issue for a digital magazine. If the price comes down or they start to add some more reasonably priced content I would consider using it. I really dislike that I cant move the newsstand icon into a folder or delete it entirely since I don't plan on using it in the near future. I like all my apps and folders to be on one page, so space is at a premium on my iPad desktop.
iMessaging is a great addition but none of my close acquaintances or family have updated yet, so I haven't used it.
The only real annoyance is that some of my regular go-to apps are no longer functioning to their full capacity. EGM Digital, the one digital magazine I read (and highly recommend if you are into video games and have an iPad if they ever fix it) is now totally broken.
I bought the game Scribblenauts Remix, originally one of the most innovative and fun nintendo DS titles now ported over to iOS...and it is really great. An amazing fun puzzle game for the whole family, where you control Maxwell, who is trying to capture "Starites", and uses a magic dictionary to assist him. The player types in almost any word he thinks of and it will appear to help him get the Starite. If the goal is up a tree, you can type "Ladder" and a ladder will appear that Maxwell can climb to get the star. Or type "Jet Plane" and fly to the top of the tree to get the star. Or type "Fire Axe", chop down the tree, and get the Star. An amazing fun, creative game.
Today ios5 has become buggy..... my iPAD had all duplicate contacts but i fixed that, now all the groups on my iPAD are duplicated and no way of correcting that that i can see. This morning i received two emails that apparently came from my mobile me account...here is the scary part one was a pic and the other a video that i took back in early Sept and then deleted them from my iPOD touch ?????? Crazy makes me think big brother is watching and knows too much.
Marko
Hey - one thing I was thinking and wondering is if many of the issues people are having are when they have multiple iOS devices? I only have the iPad and so far so good. I wonder if the confusion comes in when when you have say an iPhone and an iPad and they try to sort of sync and merge everything together.
I forgot one more thing.... when i synced up my iPOD nano it deleted all my contacts and will not sync them up anymore. I spoke to Apple and they are slammed.... huge wait times, guess i'll wait for the bugs to be worked out the servers must be working crazy hard.
Marko
It's possible Rico.
Quote from: Rico on October 14, 2011, 08:32:14 AM
Hey - one thing I was thinking and wondering is if many of the issues people are having are when they have multiple iOS devices? I only have the iPad and so far so good. I wonder if the confusion comes in when when you have say an iPhone and an iPad and they try to sort of sync and merge everything together.
I set up my email address on both my iPad and my phone, it just sends the messages to both. I may disassociate it from my iPad since I don't see myself messaging from it, my phone is always with me (even when I have the iPad).
I always wondered if you buy an App for your iPad and it's a universal App, does it automatically show up on your iPhone too??
Good question... guess i'll find out after i get my iPHONE 4S this afternoon.
It does.
Quote from: Rico on October 14, 2011, 08:39:55 AM
I always wondered if you buy an App for your iPad and it's a universal App, does it automatically show up on your iPhone too??
Well, it depends on what you mean by automatically. There's a setting in the "store" option for automatic downloads of Music, Apps, and Books to automatically download new purchases made on other devices. Default is off. If you choose to select those, I imagine whenever you are connected to the Cloud (and on WIFI if the content is over 20MB) you'll get your content. If you have those turned off, you can see your purchase history in the app store app on your device and manually download anything youve purchased to any device as long as it is compatible.
having trouble doing the wireless syncing... hmmm.
Quote from: moyer777 on October 14, 2011, 09:54:03 AM
having trouble doing the wireless syncing... hmmm.
Plug in your device.
Click on its entry on the left then go to "summary" at the top. Scroll down you should see a checkbox to enable wifi sync.
Unplug your iPad (don't eject it, just pull out the cable) and it should still be recognised as being linked in iTunes.
When you go and charge it somewhere else it should try to wifi sync.
Rick, you may have to turn your device off then back on. I had to "reboot" my iPhone to get it to sync Wi-Fi...
Quote from: Rico on October 14, 2011, 08:32:14 AM
Hey - one thing I was thinking and wondering is if many of the issues people are having are when they have multiple iOS devices? I only have the iPad and so far so good. I wonder if the confusion comes in when when you have say an iPhone and an iPad and they try to sort of sync and merge everything together.
I have not had any problems with my iPhone and iPad in sync, but I basically went and exported both my calendar and contacts from Google to iCloud and then turned off google except for mail.
Notes and Email however have been iffy so I've been avoiding using those apps until things calm down. iWork seems to be just fine though. So is Photo stream.
But then again, I'm not one to have problems with iOS all that often.
King
Quote from: Rico on October 14, 2011, 08:39:55 AM
I always wondered if you buy an App for your iPad and it's a universal App, does it automatically show up on your iPhone too??
Yes it does. And if you buy an iPhone app on your iPad, it will show up on your phone/iPod.
King
check this out? Went to track my iPHONE and it say they are updating the apple store.
https://store.apple.com/us/order/track/W228049541/1Z679W5Y6649783359
As far as Newstand is concerned, it is clearly designed for the publishers. It's just too bad because quite honestly that app could have been put into iBooks. But for the obvious reasons it was not, so people would be encouraged to put magazine subscriptions in there.
I have, quite frankly, lost any interest in reading digital magazines or newspapers. The prices are way too high, the format is a bit weird and most (if not all) of the content is online for free. Newstand is good for those that still want magazines, but I've shoved to the back of my screens and have little chance wasting $$ on it. I think we should have just Let them die on the vine and let a new industry take over. Yes, that is harsh, but how many people my age are reading newspapers regularly? It is a small minority from what I can tell and the closing of newspaper companies indicates that pretty well.
I would have much rather seen an app designed for reading blogging websites or similar. But there is little $$ to be had in that for Apple. But at least they updated safari :).
King
King,
Sometimes I'm not sure where you stand on things. Some times, its like you really LOVE Apple, then you bash it. Dude, you're fickle! :) But I agree, a blogging app would have been cool.
The other thing that bugs me about newsstand is that you can't put it in a folder!
Quote from: QuadShot on October 14, 2011, 10:30:53 AM
King,
Sometimes I'm not sure where you stand on things. Some times, its like you really LOVE Apple, then you bash it. Dude, you're fickle! :) But I agree, a blogging app would have been cool.
lol! I'm not so much fickle as I can critize even the things I love. Apple isn't perfect(and if I've stated so in the past then I need to slap myself). I still like Apple products and this update was largely great for me, but Newsstand was something I didnt really want or need even upon announcement of it. Just saying. (in a lot of words ;)
King
Ah...:) I'm not sure about Newsstand yet. I don't really care one way or the other about it at the moment. I'd LOVE to see Starlog in that store though! :)
Man, is Starlog still published?! Loved Starlog as a kid...
UPS Guy just dropped off my new iPHONE 4S....Will post my thoughts on it later when i actually have a chance to open it.
Marko
Quote from: Bryancd on October 14, 2011, 11:25:26 AM
Man, is Starlog still published?! Loved Starlog as a kid...
I don't know really. And yeah, I loved it too. Every year for my birthday, my dad would renew my subscription! Ah the good old days. Youth is SO wasted on the young!
Bryan, found this article on the web:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/04/13/starlog-magazin/ (http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/04/13/starlog-magazin/)
Quote from: billybob476 on October 14, 2011, 10:36:55 AM
The other thing that bugs me about newsstand is that you can't put it in a folder!
Actually you can. Just not officially. Create a folder and quickly put it in while iOS is "thinking" and it goes in. The problem is if you fire it up, it pops back out. So this little trick will work if you never use it.
Yeah I read that somewhere. The problem is Newsstand isn't an app, it's a skinned folder and you can't 'legally' put a folder in a folder.
Yeah but once you get it in its out of the way if you don't plan on using it. But I bet bet they fix this little trick in the next update! :)
Quote from: Dangelus on October 14, 2011, 11:54:12 AM
Yeah but once you get it in its out of the way if you don't plan on using it. But I bet bet they fix this little trick in the next update! :)
May have to try that since I have no interest in using it.
My big love is still iMessage. The ability to text overseas for free is great. For some reason I'm far more communicative this way then I ever would be by email (as Joe and Rick are probably starting to realise... Sorry!). Somehow, 'chat' type things just dont seem important enough for email (or HeyTell) but I will use iMessage.
Quote from: Feathers on October 14, 2011, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Dangelus on October 14, 2011, 11:54:12 AM
Yeah but once you get it in its out of the way if you don't plan on using it. But I bet bet they fix this little trick in the next update! :)
May have to try that since I have no interest in using it.
My big love is still iMessage. The ability to text overseas for free is great. For some reason I'm far more communicative this way then I ever would be by email (as Joe and Rick are probably starting to realise... Sorry!). Somehow, 'chat' type things just dont seem important enough for email (or HeyTell) but I will use iMessage.
No worries, you're breaking up the monotony of my rainy Friday afternoon at work.
Yep loving iMessage. I have the feeling the carriers are going to have to rethink iPhone text packages!
Apparently Apple has a sense of humour:
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/10/14/siri-seriously-just-say-that/ (http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/10/14/siri-seriously-just-say-that/)
QuoteApple's newest artificial intelligence technology is called Siri. Originally based off the Siri Assistant app in the App Store, Apple uses its own secret sauce and Naunce's backend to create a super intelligent assistant for iPhone 4S users.
What you may not know about Siri is that it has an attitude and a sense of humor. Here's some of the crazy things that Siri says...
This is my next's Joshua Topolsky published a truckload of Siri conversations he had with his iPhone 4S review unit.
Lol!!
Some of the items on the place linked from there are really rather funny. All I'll say is that you can tell Software Engineers were involved in this (yes I know it's obvious since it's sotyware but engineers don't always get free reign with their humour).
Quote from: Dangelus on October 14, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
Yep loving iMessage. I have the feeling the carriers are going to have to rethink iPhone text packages!
As in make them more expensive =/. I'm not looking forward to their reaction as they find people dropping their plans. I would quit my text plan if I could move my family to IM or iMessage, they are now the only ones who text me regularly.
King
It's a small thing but the new Safari build will scroll things like images (or the Subspace Messages box) with one finger where it took two with iOS 4.
Ok, so, not sure what's going on, maybe someone can help. I had a mobile me mail account on my iPad (alkessel@me.com). With the new iCloud, that changed to an iCloud mail account. Now, I can't send any mail from the email. I get a weird error: No password provided for "SMTP:alkessel@smtp.me.com", but, I do...
I have like 25 Apps to update on my iPad. :)
I had a mobile me account too and man i am having problems duplicate groups contacts won't sync..... the iCloud is not for me. Just set up my iPHONE 4S and i am syncing my contact through google mail my apple address book would import my contacts to the phone. Other then that my verizon phone took two minutes to port and set up.... easy peezy.
Marko
Ok, question: I thought that you couldn't Wi-Fi sync with iTunes unless the device was plugged in to power? My iPad just synced with iTunes. It's in the bag, in the living room no where near a power outlet!!?
Quote from: QuadShot on October 14, 2011, 05:49:05 PM
Ok, question: I thought that you couldn't Wi-Fi sync with iTunes unless the device was plugged in to power? My iPad just synced with iTunes. It's in the bag, in the living room no where near a power outlet!!?
Did you plug it in at any time and then unplug it? Did you hit the sync button on iTunes?
King
Quote from: QuadShot on October 14, 2011, 03:05:49 PM
Ok, so, not sure what's going on, maybe someone can help. I had a mobile me mail account on my iPad (alkessel@me.com). With the new iCloud, that changed to an iCloud mail account. Now, I can't send any mail from the email. I get a weird error: No password provided for "SMTP:alkessel@smtp.me.com", but, I do...
Try logging out and in from your iCloud account. Though you may have to talk with Apple on that.
King
Didn't plug it in tonight, no. And shouldn't matter if I hit the sync button, the iPad wasn't plugged into power and unless I don't understand Apple's instructions, it won't sync unless it's powered.
Quote from: QuadShot on October 14, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
Didn't plug it in tonight, no. And shouldn't matter if I hit the sync button, the iPad wasn't plugged into power and unless I don't understand Apple's instructions, it won't sync unless it's powered.
Apple's wording is a bit weird. What it actually means:
Wireless iTunes sync will not AUTOMATICALLY happen unless plugged in and connected to the right wifi connection (that has your computer on it).
Otherwise, if you hit the sync button on your iOS device (in the settings app) or iTunes, it will sync regardless of whether it's plugged in or not.
iCloud:
iCloud will not backup automatically to the cloud unless plugged in, locked and connected to wifi. Otherwise, you have to tell it to via the settings app.
All other iCloud services (mail, contacts, photo stream, etc) happen automatically, Wifi connected OFC.
Tldr: Apple does automatic when charging, but you can still do it manually, even without charging.
King
I think we will see a 5.01 update pretty soon. Lots of little teething troubles, more than I remember for any iOS OS upgrade. It's understandable as some pretty big changes have come in.
My wife's iPhone ended up with one of my apps on it. I only noticed when I updated her apps and one failed. I retried and it popped up asking me to log into MY iTunes account! Weird...
Since I use my PC all the time and every day, I find just plugging in my iPad and having it sync there is still just fine for me.
so I should wait for you guys to finish flushing out the bugs to update from ios3? ;)
3? Wow, the change will be quite dramatic from that baseline!
Rico i am with you i just plug my iphone/pad/pod into my macbook and sync away.... BTW the new 4s is a rocket! It is wicked fast....and the resolution of that screen "WOW"
Marko
I think the main benefit of wifi sync is for podcasts. If you have a charging dock away from your PC it is a handy way to get your iTunes podcasts updated.
Of course I haven't used iTunes for podcasts in a LONG time for the very reason you needed to connect to the PC every time. I'm still going to continue to use Instacast.
Quote from: Dangelus on October 14, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
Yep loving iMessage. I have the feeling the carriers are going to have to rethink iPhone text packages!
iMessage is great! Especially now that I can text with my son, who has a Touch. But the carriers are pretty safe until such point that Apple opens up iMessage so that non-Apple devices/computers can hook into it (e.g. an Android app). Until I can send a text message to someone who doesn't have an iDevice, then I will need an SMS service.
Granted I might no longer need an unlimited SMS plan, but it will take a good month to really see how much less I am using SMS now that iMessage is here.
Have you noticed that if you ask Siri for directions, you could get three different routes displayed within Google Maps app? That is very cool! Wish you could get that without using Siri...
Anyone having trouble with the Remote App on their iPad. This is what used to be able to let me control iTunes on my PC from my iPad. Can't seem to find my library there anymore. Ideas??
Hey Rick P. your still using Appigo's Todo app right? Is it lagging and bugging up on you on your 4S?
King
Quote from: RickPeete on October 15, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
Quote from: Dangelus on October 14, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
Yep loving iMessage. I have the feeling the carriers are going to have to rethink iPhone text packages!
iMessage is great! Especially now that I can text with my son, who has a Touch. But the carriers are pretty safe until such point that Apple opens up iMessage so that non-Apple devices/computers can hook into it (e.g. an Android app). Until I can send a text message to someone who doesn't have an iDevice, then I will need an SMS service.
Granted I might no longer need an unlimited SMS plan, but it will take a good month to really see how much less I am using SMS now that iMessage is here.
Rick - can you dictate a text iMessage via Siri?
Quote from: RickPeete on October 15, 2011, 01:14:29 PM
Have you noticed that if you ask Siri for directions, you could get three different routes displayed within Google Maps app? That is very cool! Wish you could get that without using Siri...
I'm pretty sure maps the apple maps program was updated to give different routes even if you don't use Siri. I havent used it yet since updating but I remember reading that was one of the new changes.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on October 15, 2011, 06:41:35 PM
Quote from: RickPeete on October 15, 2011, 01:14:29 PM
Have you noticed that if you ask Siri for directions, you could get three different routes displayed within Google Maps app? That is very cool! Wish you could get that without using Siri...
I'm pretty sure maps the apple maps program was updated to give different routes even if you don't use Siri. I havent used it yet since updating but I remember reading that was one of the new changes.
Yeah, what you said, the maps program was updated to allow multiple routes.
King
Quote from: Dangelus on October 15, 2011, 12:29:43 PM
Of course I haven't used iTunes for podcasts in a LONG time for the very reason you needed to connect to the PC every time. I'm still going to continue to use Instacast.
Using both Podcaster and Pocket Casts now. Don't ask me why I bought two... Either way, iTunes and podcasts are really distant history for me now.
On the main topic, I seem to now be giving iOS5 classes around the office this morning. I'm not sure what makes me the expert but it's always good fun to appear to be the expert :D
I'm still finding for my particular use with only having the iPad that most of these changes and updates are things I don't really use or need. I sync by plugging into my PC, I've never used IM messaging much, etc. Even iCloud seems to just be more of a backup service than anything else. I think for devices more on the go, like the iPhone some of these things are more useful.
Having a 3GS a downside I have noticed is a slight slowdown overall but I suppose that is to be expected. This obviously isn't an issue for my iPad 2 :)
The wifi syncing and even iCloud are a little gimmicky at the moment for me. Has the iTunes Match service started for you guys over there yet? Now that is a useful service in the terms of all this backup stuff.
I'm really loving iMessage and it has virtually replace Twitter DMs for overseas friends especially.
The other essential change for me is the new notification system which is superb.
The wifi sync is nice for Fran since she syncs to her laptop, it's nice she doesn't have to find her cable, plug it in etc etc, she can just have her phone on the speaker dock in the kitchen that she usually leaves it on and transfer music and such wherever she is working in the house.
As for the iPad, I think the only time I've plugged it in was once to transfer some videos/photos and for this update so if I want to do more file transfers I'll likely do it via wifi.
Quote from: Dangelus on October 17, 2011, 04:40:17 AM
Having a 3GS a downside I have noticed is a slight slowdown overall but I suppose that is to be expected.
I agree, things have slowed down considerably on my 3GS as well. Not happy about that. That combined with some of my apps not working well or at all makes me ish I could go back to the previous iOS.
iTunes match isn't till next week.
King
Playing with the 'Find my Friends' app this morning, it's sort of Google lattitude done the Apple way.
From what I can see, once enabled the server interrogates the iDevice every time someone pings for a location against the Google approach of continually reporting position for others to use.
Personally, I still see it as a slightly stalkerish application but if anyone wants to give it a try and doen't have anyone to test it with, I'd be willing to play for a while.
Anybody else noticing an increase in battery usage with iOS 5? I have, especially on the iPad 2. Hopefully they will optimise this in 5.01
My battery on my original iPad is nowhere near as efficient as it was when I first got it, but I noticed that before iOS 5 dropped. I think it's more about 1 1/2 year of near constant use/draining/recharging. I guess in your case it would have to be either the OS or else you're using it differently since the update.
Maybe but there have been reports of battery efficiency being reduced. One guy said his battery drained in 24 hours with the iPad 2 sat "idle".
I guess if you have all the bells and whistles set to "on" there is more happening than you realise, like iCloud backups etc.
Quote from: Dangelus on October 18, 2011, 04:35:24 AM
Anybody else noticing an increase in battery usage with iOS 5? I have, especially on the iPad 2. Hopefully they will optimise this in 5.01
One of the reasons I don't go in for all this "Cloud" back up and WiFi syncing use. Plug that sucker in more often! ;)
Dan, yes. Especially on my iPhone 4. But, I think it's also because of all the notifications and things.
Quote from: Rico on October 18, 2011, 06:27:38 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on October 18, 2011, 04:35:24 AM
Anybody else noticing an increase in battery usage with iOS 5? I have, especially on the iPad 2. Hopefully they will optimise this in 5.01
One of the reasons I don't go in for all this "Cloud" back up and WiFi syncing use. Plug that sucker in more often! ;)
LOL! I'm glad that the got the wifi sync now. Sure it was standard on the first Zune, but I'm glad that Apple has finally decided to add the feature. Next up might be a monthly pass and unlimited streaming.
As I might (or might not) have said before, pretty much all of the new wireless stuff is catching up with somebody or other. Most of it is Google I think but there are others out there too.
I was wirelessly syncing PalmOS devices years ago.
Pretty soon you'll be able to do everything wirelessly - except keep the device powered up! LOL!!! :roflmao
Ok this one is good!
Quote from: Rico on October 18, 2011, 08:28:38 AM
Pretty soon you'll be able to do everything wirelessly - except keep the device powered up! LOL!!! :roflmao
They have that too. The touch pad can charge wirelessly and there is the charge pad device where you can adapt things to induction charging without wires.
Yes, I'm aware of those devices and options. Some are even making their way into cars. But, I still think battery life is a weak component currently, especially given the additional functions these devices have to perform. And also considering you can't even get at the battery in Apple hardware.
Quote from: Rico on October 18, 2011, 08:41:24 AM
Yes, I'm aware of those devices and options. Some are even making their way into cars. But, I still think battery life is a weak component currently, especially given the additional functions these devices have to perform. And also considering you can't even get at the battery in Apple hardware.
I think that's intentional to sway the owner into a two year upgrade cycle.
Yes. Industry calls that "planned obsolescence."
I'm sure Apple will release patches to patch up the battery issues, but just keep in mind that a lot more applications are drawing power to attach to the web. If you don't need them, disable them in the iCloud settings in the Settings app. notes, reminders, all of them draw energy probably.
King
I cannot figure out why, ever since I upgraded my iPad to iOS 5 that I now have to log in every time I visit this site. My cookie settings are on and I don't have private browsing on or anything. It's really messing with my head.
Well after your upgrade your cookies would have been wiped and the forums don't default your login to "forever" anymore. You actually have to go to the login screen and select it. If you just log in via the little form up top then it'll time you out after awhile.
That fixed it thanks Joe!
Of course if you use other browsers like iCab, the cookies are still there. :)
I'm pretty happy with the enhancements to the mobile safari browser. I tried that Dolphin thing and didn't see the point. I think when you tweaked the forums recently that "log in forever" check box went to a different page, which was exactly what my problem was.
Ever since I updated my iPod touch, I've noticed that audio is behaving oddly. It's skipping at times, or just stopping, or it sounds like CDs do when there's a scratch. It's very weird. And only seems to happen with podcasts, that I've noticed. Anyone else experiencing this?
Yeah I've experienced this as well.
Quote from: billybob476 on October 21, 2011, 07:33:04 AM
Yeah I've experienced this as well.
On your iPhone? iPad??
iPhone using Instacast. the audio stutters once or twice then it's fine. Seems like the cpu is maxing out or something. It's only happened to me twice but I've noticed. It shouldn't happen on the iPad since it has more RAM and a faster clock speed then even the 4S.
Happening to me on the iPod Touch. Using the regular "music" interface. :/
Quote from: billybob476 on October 21, 2011, 09:05:16 AM
iPhone using Instacast. the audio stutters once or twice then it's fine. Seems like the cpu is maxing out or something. It's only happened to me twice but I've noticed. It shouldn't happen on the iPad since it has more RAM and a faster clock speed then even the 4S.
Yep I've had this on Instacast. I've found the last couple of updates pretty buggy on this app, the skipping, static and also caching problems. I've actually just switched to another podcasting app called Pocket Casts thanks to Mike (Feathers) recommendation. It is a superb app with a great development team and regular updates. They interact with customers on twitter and are cool guys.
If you notice it happening, just reboot your phone and that should clear it up.
King
Quote from: Dangelus on October 21, 2011, 09:44:48 AM
Yep I've had this on Instacast. I've found the last couple of updates pretty buggy on this app, the skipping, static and also caching problems. I've actually just switched to another podcasting app called Pocket Casts thanks to Mike (Feathers) recommendation. It is a superb app with a great development team and regular updates. They interact with customers on twitter and are cool guys.
What's this? Mentioned in dispatches?
I've had stuttering in Pocket Casts when I've stopped and started it a few too many times in short succession but I think that's more an App problem than anything else (and one that 3.1 appears to have fixed).
Seriously though, it's a top app and I'm glad you told me about ! :)
One of the new features of iOS 5 I'm enjoying is the ability to add custom shortcuts to the keyboard memory. The default custom one to get everyone started is OMW for on my way. I've added some of the ones I commonly use like IMO for in my opinion, and BRT for be right there. Has anyone else played with this? We should post our custom lists if so.
I have, but only to the point of abbreviating my email address (which is what I always used to use it for when PalmOS did it all those years ago).
The 5.0.1 update is now available.
Just finished updating all our iOS devices over the air. I'm SO glad we finally have this feature, all went one without any hitches. :)
Same here, no troubles at all.
Looks like a few GPS-bugs have been fixed, but it will be a few days before I'm sure battery issues are fixed.
King
Never had a major battery issue on my 3GS, yes it did seem to drain a little quicker but the major problems seem to be with the 4's and 4S models due to there faster processors which is ironic.
Quote from: Dangelus on November 10, 2011, 12:55:48 PM
Never had a major battery issue on my 3GS, yes it did seem to drain a little quicker but the major problems seem to be with the 4's and 4S models due to there faster processors which is ironic.
I've noticed a slightly higher drain. Most of it seems centered at school where I use my phone the least. I'm not entirely convinced that is Apple's problem, but more of a problem with the wifi they are using here, because it seems fine when I leave campus. But I'll watch and see if this fixes my phone.
King
I've noticed slightly more usage but I know the phone is doing a lot more background location stuff. More battery life is always welcomed!
All i noticed was that my phone seemed slower. Like going on to the text message page it would lag for a while. Hopefully this update will sort that out.
Downloading as I type. I can't say that I've had any issues with iOS 5 but I generaly update anyway.
I've had the slow down issues, a slight decrease in battery life but the biggest problem for me was a slight instability such as apps crashing more often or on occasion freezing up. So far I get the feeling that whatever fixes they've put in may be helping with this.
Hmm, seems the update isn't helping some folks much...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57323047-37/ios-5.0.1-didnt-fix-battery-drain-bug-say-some-users/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57323047-37/ios-5.0.1-didnt-fix-battery-drain-bug-say-some-users/)
I have had no troubles at all in fact the battery on my 4s never seems to go below 90% i downloaded the update does this mean i will get even better battery life.... lol
Never goes below 90%??!? How can that even be possible? Do you talk on it ever? Use Apps?? LOL! :)
Man, I hope this update helps with the battery life. Since iOS5, my iPhone4 battery life has really been horrible. I had to charge it no less than once every day. Even without doing much. In fact, I'd have 100% going to bed, then in the morning, it's down to 80% or so...DOING NOTHING! So, lets hope! :)
I haven't done the update yet but my battery levels are much better recently.
Quote from: QuadShot on November 11, 2011, 08:49:46 AM
Man, I hope this update helps with the battery life. Since iOS5, my iPhone4 battery life has really been horrible. I had to charge it no less than once every day. Even without doing much. In fact, I'd have 100% going to bed, then in the morning, it's down to 80% or so...DOING NOTHING! So, lets hope! :)
Your doing it wrong Al, tsk tsk, you charge it when your asleep and use it when your awake. LoL. ;)
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on November 11, 2011, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on November 11, 2011, 08:49:46 AM
Man, I hope this update helps with the battery life. Since iOS5, my iPhone4 battery life has really been horrible. I had to charge it no less than once every day. Even without doing much. In fact, I'd have 100% going to bed, then in the morning, it's down to 80% or so...DOING NOTHING! So, lets hope! :)
Your doing it wrong Al, tsk tsk, you charge it when your asleep and use it when your awake. LoL. ;)
King
OHHH! NOW you tell me!! :)
no change on my ipad yet.
Man I updated to 5.0.1 on my iPad and it forced me into recovery mode, and none of the usual methods to getting out of it worked. I had to restore the device to factory settings, reinstall, and restore from backup. So pissed I lost all my videos, books, and music.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on November 12, 2011, 06:03:04 AM
Man I updated to 5.0.1 on my iPad and it forced me into recovery mode, and none of the usual methods to getting out of it worked. I had to restore the device to factory settings, reinstall, and restore from backup. So pissed I lost all my videos, books, and music.
That sucks. I have heard of a small minority having this issue when they updated OTA.
Dd you have a recent backup on the computer to restore from?
Yes apps were backed up the night before, I generally do a manual back up right before I go to bed every night, so all my apps and app data was ok. Just annoying to have to reload everything else since I don't automatically sync with my computer. And there was quite a lot of movies and books I had moved onto portable storage off my main computer but still hadn't watched or read yet on my iPad. What a pain!
An update to the iOS app store for iPad should make browsing easier.
http://t.co/QHDmyjiJ (http://t.co/QHDmyjiJ)
It's auto-applied, you only need to open the store and there you go :)
King
Hey, are people using more of their data plan up now that you can store more via iCloud? If you store say music there, doesn't it add to your monthly total each time you access the song? Also, how do streaming services like Spotify and Pandora impact your data limits per month? That 2GB, or even 6 GB isn't looking like very much these days.
I've noticed a spike in usage here lately, but I'm still well within 2GBs, though I avoid streaming anything over 3G. Of course, 2GBs is not nearly enough so yeah, they really need to kick it up a notch, especially when 4G becomes available because we will all go over 2GBs with 4G around.
King
Geeze, I know. I use the Wi-Fi at work mostly, but Joyce and I both have AT&T Mi-Fi's with 5 gig per month each.
Hey - is there an App to keep track of your data usage each month?
Quote from: Rico on November 21, 2011, 09:07:53 AM
Hey - is there an App to keep track of your data usage each month?
The official AT&T one does for iPhone. Umm...I'm guessing Verizon should have one by now and so should Sprint, but you would have to look that up. Otherwise, under settings -> usage it says what you've consumed though its a bit wonky.
King
I found one for Android but never for iOS.
I suspect the sandbox architecture wouldn't allow one to operate anyway (preventing access to the internal data counters).
All we can do is manually reset the data counter in the OS every month.
(Obviously the networks track it and provide apps with web access to those numbers but they usually come with a strong '48 hours out of date' health warning.)