Are Dooku and Anakin Evil, Really?

[KingIsaacLinksr]

I'm surprised there hasn't been more of a back story on the subject of Anakin's lineage. Perhaps Lucas was leaving a door open so he could re-invigorate the franchise with a new movie if need be. I think that I agree with the Palpatine as Anakin's father. It just seems more plausible IMHO.

No offense to Uncle George, but I don't think he has the planning to pull that off. Sure others can connect the dots, but then again I think that's why the books are richer than the movies because he only needs approve them and not write them.

Except that George L hasn't approved of any of the books himself here lately if what I heard from The Force Cast is true.  I mean, its why one of the EU writers working on Star Wars books quit here recently due to continuity issues between her and The Clone Wars.  If that is indeed true, then the books have less legitimacy. 

I'm just speaking out loud of course.

As per Annikan's father being the Emperor, that does seem to make sense from a certain point of view, but then again it comes down to, why Shmi?  It doesn't quite make sense on that part and how did Palpatine find her?

King

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I'm surprised there hasn't been more of a back story on the subject of Anakin's lineage. Perhaps Lucas was leaving a door open so he could re-invigorate the franchise with a new movie if need be. I think that I agree with the Palpatine as Anakin's father. It just seems more plausible IMHO.

No offense to Uncle George, but I don't think he has the planning to pull that off. Sure others can connect the dots, but then again I think that's why the books are richer than the movies because he only needs approve them and not write them.

Except that George L hasn't approved of any of the books himself here lately if what I heard from The Force Cast is true.  I mean, its why one of the EU writers working on Star Wars books quit here recently due to continuity issues between her and The Clone Wars.  If that is indeed true, then the books have less legitimacy. 

I'm just speaking out loud of course.

As per Annikan's father being the Emperor, that does seem to make sense from a certain point of view, but then again it comes down to, why Shmi?  It doesn't quite make sense on that part and how did Palpatine find her?

King

Shimi is just a person that was used. She didn't have to be anyone special. Just a tool

[Shelby D]

If Palpatine did this manipulation of midiclorines and used Shmi - he would have had knowledge about Anakin - however he did not appear to know him or of him. 

So one cannot simply dismiss Plagueis as the child's 'creator' especially since it was not established when Palpatine's Master died. That is really pivotal in this whole scheme of things. Palpatine could have lead Plagueis on for a long time before offing him.

Additionally just because Palpatine told that story about Plagueis doesn't mean it was true. He has proven himself to be a master manipulator. What better way to reel in the vulnerable Anakin than to give him empty promises of hope to save Padame.

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[wraith1701]

Very nice thread!

Are the two evil? In my opinion, yes. I doubt that Dooku sees himself as evil though; as far as he's concerned, the Jedi's philosophy & inability to be proactive has led to disorder & chaos; he sees the Sith as a means to restore order. 

Anakin is a different matter.  It seems to me that throughout the story, he's trying to convince himself that the choices he makes are for the greater good, but deep down, he doesn't buy it.  He regrets each bridge he burns, but not until after the fact. In the end, he doesn't see any alternative but to embrace the Sith; its all he has left.

Both characters are evil. Dooku doesn't see himself that way, so I guess he sleeps easy at night.  Anakin is torn over what he's made of his life, and is tormented by it.

Regarding Anakin's conception-
I think that Plagueis & Palpatine both had a hand in his creation through manipulation of midichlorians. I think Plagueis put the plan into motion, and Palpatine took the reigns after he killed him.