BSG Season 4 News (may contain slight spoilers)

[wraith1701]

About the latest episode-

When I first watched it, It seemed to me that despite her actions, Boomer really did mean what she said to the Chief before she left; that she really did love him in her own special, twisted little way.  But after watching it again, the whole episode seems completely different.  On my last viewing, I couldn't get over the impression that everything Boomer said and showed to the Chief was an act. 

I'm just wondering what others out there think:  Does Boomer have any genuine feelings for the Chief, or is she simply a master of manipulation? 

[X]

About the latest episode-

When I first watched it, It seemed to me that despite her actions, Boomer really did mean what she said to the Chief before she left; that she really did love him in her own special, twisted little way.  But after watching it again, the whole episode seems completely different.  On my last viewing, I couldn't get over the impression that everything Boomer said and showed to the Chief was an act. 

I'm just wondering what others out there think:  Does Boomer have any genuine feelings for the Chief, or is she simply a master of manipulation? 

I think it was a manipulation. She had a goal and accomplished it betting on Chief being chief.

[wraith1701]

About the latest episode-

When I first watched it, It seemed to me that despite her actions, Boomer really did mean what she said to the Chief before she left; that she really did love him in her own special, twisted little way.  But after watching it again, the whole episode seems completely different.  On my last viewing, I couldn't get over the impression that everything Boomer said and showed to the Chief was an act. 

I'm just wondering what others out there think:  Does Boomer have any genuine feelings for the Chief, or is she simply a master of manipulation? 

I think it was a manipulation. She had a goal and accomplished it betting on Chief being chief.

I think you're right.  So it looks like the "rescue" of Ellen and the "escape" from the Basestar were all part of an elaborate plan masterminded by Cavil.  That guy is devious. 

[Darth Gaos]

I totally think she was manipulating him.  And honestly I can't tell anymore whether or not she really does have any true feelings for him.

Also I want to expound on my previous post.  I have littlle doubt that we will find out everything we need to find out, I just don't want the end of an awesome series to seem rushed.  The last two episodes weren't bad, they just didn't seem to advance much.  Yes, we found out some things but nothing like the few episodes prior.  Like I said, I just don't want to see 4 hours worth of show crammed into 2 hours.  

[wraith1701]

... I just don't want to see 4 hours worth of show crammed into 2 hours.  

I'm with you on that one.  Heck; part of me would like to see the show go on for another season or two.  But I guess it's better to end the series once it tells the story it has to tell, rather than let it linger and turn bad.  And like you, I hope the writers can avoid making the ending seemed rushed or forced. 

[Bryancd]

So if Daniel is a Cylon and if he is Kara's Dad, that would make Starbuck the original Cylon/Human hybrid, like Hera who has now been kidnapped. Also, does anyone think the musical notes of "All Around the Watchtower" will actually be a map to their final destination.

[wraith1701]

So if Daniel is a Cylon and if he is Kara's Dad, that would make Starbuck the original Cylon/Human hybrid, like Hera who has now been kidnapped.

Sounds right to me.  I wonder if Slick/Daniel still exists, or if he only exists as a "head character".  If he's still kicking around in the physical world, I'm curious to see how they will bring him into the show.

Also, does anyone think the musical notes of "All Around the Watchtower" will actually be a map to their final destination.

Sounds cool.  The notes that Hera drew kind of looked like a child's interpretation of a solar system. 

[Geekyfanboy]

Just finished the latest episode.. really good.. building up tension for the final few episodes.

As for Boomer, she's vicious but I do think she truly loves the Chief. I mean when shes on the raptor with him she says come with me and he says no, she then says something like, whatever happens just know I always loved it. She knew that he would find out what she did. If she didn't truly love him then there would be no reason for that comment... at least that's how I look at it.

[Rico]

Except for the whole betraying the Chief's trust thing and lying to him.  Boomer is just nasty evil and out for herself.  Doesn't seem like love to me.

[Geekyfanboy]

Except for the whole betraying the Chief's trust thing and lying to him.  Boomer is just nasty evil and out for herself.  Doesn't seem like love to me.

But before she was like that, before she knew she was a Cylon, she loved Chief and I think deep down she still does.

[X]

It's my personal opinion that she doesn't know what love is. I think she used him and played on his love. I think that she only added the last part because she knew he would stay. She also probably wanted to keep her bridges from being burned.if I were evil and boomer,  I would tell chief that I only did it to be allowed back on the basestar after taking Ellen and freeing her. I didn't want to do it. but I needed a way to be allowed home.

[Bryancd]

I agree with X, the whole thing was a set up by Cavil and Boomer is just doing this for him.

[wraith1701]

Yeah; I think it's pretty obvious that the escape in the Raptor was Cavil's plan.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Boomer doesn't know what love is though; I just think that her perception of herself, others, and her role in life has been seriously warped by the past few years-- Finding out she's a cylon, her programed attempt at killing Adama (her surrogate father-figure), her rejection by her Galactica family, her being killed and then reborn...

I think that Boomer is, quite simply, broken; and Cavil was able to take advantage of this fact to mold her into his tool.  Not that this excuses any of her actions, but it does explain them.  

I think that she does still have feelings for the Chief.  Not the normal, healthy love felt between normal people.  Something more like a hint of the memory of love, all warped and twisted up with feelings of resentment, anger, and betrayal.  

Case in point- the way that she interacted with the Chief, while designed to fool him, felt more genuine than the way she interacted with Helo.  Both situations were obviously deceptions, but the part she played with Tyrol felt a lot more real, even though it was a lot less intimate than her encounter with Helo.

Man; I don't think that things will end well for either Boomer or the Chief.

By the way.. Is Roslyn dead?

[Bryancd]

Interesting episode last night. Lot's of foreshadowing.

[billybob476]

The ending of last night's episode was great. It made me sad, but it was great.