Star Trek Online

[billybob476]

Well at the end of the day isn't almost any MMO a "kill-as-many-people-to-lvl"?

[KingIsaacLinksr]

For the most part yes.  The only game that is exempt from that is Eve Online, (although that depends on how you play).  Its kinda sad because this game is turning into the "flavor of the month" game.  I was hoping for an actual good game since Bridge Commander, but now that hope is being dashed. 

AH well, what can you do.  The only way to sell games are to make them WoW-esque and hope people will buy them more than WoW itself. (warhammer anyone?)

King

[X]

For the most part yes.  The only game that is exempt from that is Eve Online, (although that depends on how you play).  Its kinda sad because this game is turning into the "flavor of the month" game.  I was hoping for an actual good game since Bridge Commander, but now that hope is being dashed. 

AH well, what can you do.  The only way to sell games are to make them WoW-esque and hope people will buy them more than WoW itself. (warhammer anyone?)

King

Except world of warcraft kind of ripped off several other pen and paper games like warhammer and video games like ever quest which were around long before it was a pixel in it's creator's eye.

[billybob476]

...which comes from Tolkien which comes from the mythologies of various societies. These stories and games are based on archetypes and primeval symbols that we as humans identify with on a very basic level.

[Jen]

http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/22/sto-game-update-new-screenshots-backstory-more/

(Link is from Rico's Pic of the day)

Well, this is starting to look "great".  Apparently, you can solo the entire game, conduct "raids" and its basically shoot-and-destroy.  

World of Warcraft anyone?

Although I will give them cudos on the good looking backgrounds and planet views from Space, this is all too obvious becoming another kill-as-many-people-to-lvl.  

Oh well, they've gotta sell games amiright?

King

From what I understand this is limited to specific areas and no one has to do it. The game has to appeal to a broad audience or they will not be successful. It has to attract more than just Star Trek fans.  :)

[Rico]

Well at the end of the day isn't almost any MMO a "kill-as-many-people-to-lvl"?

Star Wars Galaxies tried to get around this a bit, with experience coming from various missions that didn't always involve "killing stuff."  I do hope ST: Online tries to focus a lot on a variety of missions for leveling rather than simple killing.

[Jobydrone]

I just hope that there's no "grinding", the worst element of MMOs that has largely been rendered obsolete by games like WoW where there is so much content that it has become unneccessary.  There needs to be enough variety in missions that you can go from level 1 all the way to the cap without having to repetitively kill creatures over and over again to efficiently and quickly level.  Does anyone fondly remember the literally scores of hours spent killing the same damn creatures over and over again in Everquest?

[billybob476]

Yeah grinding is a thing of the past I believe. Then again, I believe in Eve you 'grind' your various skills, but I think that happens in the background while you are doing other things. Am I right King?

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Yeah grinding is a thing of the past I believe. Then again, I believe in Eve you 'grind' your various skills, but I think that happens in the background while you are doing other things. Am I right King?

Yeah, skill training is done passively in Eve.  This is unique for a game such as this.  The only grind is making money, which sadly is the only way to make money legitimately.  If anything can change this, this will surprise me.

King

[Rico]

A ton of more pictures from the game here:  http://kotaku.com/5326397/all-the-star-trek-online-screens-youll-ever-need

[Rico]

New footage of the game shot at the GamesCom trade fair in Cologne, Germany.  Lots of combat shown.

"Star Trek: Online" in-game footage, 8/2009

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Well, I guess this is what you get when you combine WoW with EvE.  Lots of unending combat with flashy graphics.  I'm pretty much turned off to the potential of this game.  "Everyone is a captain, everyone gets an epic fight, everyone, everything".  Yeah, that's what they say in WoW too.  Oh it'll be fun at first, but it will eventually get dry and boring. 

The ships move around very stuttering-like and the engine trails are very much out of place.  The "hand-to-hand" combat is so WoW like its not even funny.  Although some of it is good, this just feels wrong and I will not be reserving it or anything.  I'll wait till people here play it before I even look at it. 

Just sad...

King

P.S. sorry about this post, it's just to express my supreme disappointment that this game is a new Warhammer Online or LOTR Online.  Both were good at first and then became dull fast. 

[cassious]

I dunno. Like King said, it looks too much like WoW. I'm still hoping it won't be that way. I'm looking forward to maybe trying it, or at least hearing and seeing more about it when it comes out.

Hopefully, they'll put out 14 day trials like WoW did so we can try it before buying.

[Rico]

First, let me say this is a flash video taken of a video wall of videos.  Please do not think this represents the exact way ships and people will move in the game or even comment on the graphic engine.  You are certainly not seeing the game on a full resolution monitor in play mode.

However, I will comment on the gameplay shown.  While it's a bit early to tell and I doubt we have seen everything it does sadly look to be like many other MMO's in a Star Trek skin.  I will certainly still give it a try when it comes out, but I am thinking they may have let some great opportunities slip by them that might have made this a different and unique game.  Time will tell.

[Meds]

As a chap who has never played wow, never played a mmo i have to say I am seriously thinking about giving this a go. Maybe its because i have no expectations, but hell no one has played it yet, so lets not kick it in the ass before we've even tried it.