Galactica - Season 4 discussion (spoilers)

Geekyfanboy · May 17, 2008, 09:38:58 AM

Okay.. now I can talk.. lasts nights episode was awesome.. as Darth said you can really tell they are starting to ramp up for the final big push to the series.

I felt really bad for Natalie (Six) when she was shot.. she seemed the best of the best of the Cylons. The eights (Athena) tends to have a problem with shot first ask questions later.

Loved that Roslin knew about Tory and Baltar, I'm not a fan of Tory and I hope Tyrol find out that she killed Callie.

It was good to see De... seems like she hasn't played much of a role in this season.

Still not liking Lee's new government position.. I don't like where they have taken his character... very boring.

Now to Gaeta

Quote from: Just X on May 17, 2008, 07:34:01 AM
Wow. It wasn't until last night that I realized how unforgiving I can be. I'm watching him get his leg removed and the only thing I can think of is. "Well that's what happens to mutineers!"

The entire shipped mutineered, not just Gaeta, I actually agree with them. Starbuck was a bit crazy. Anders should get some sort or punishment for shooting him.

Quote from: Just X on May 17, 2008, 07:34:01 AM
When he is singing, I found myself wondering if he had any consideration for those people that were there because they didn't do anything wrong and maybe they didn't want to hear singing 24/7.

I found his singing beautifully haunting. And they showed other people in the hospital and none of them seemed to mind. At least he could sing. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens to his character.

Only a handful let before they take there break for possible a year before we get the final ten episodes... it's going to be torture.

jedijeff · May 17, 2008, 10:01:35 AM

Quote from: Just X on May 17, 2008, 07:34:01 AM
Wow. It wasn't until last night that I realized how unforgiving I can be. I'm watching him get his leg removed and the only thing I can think of is. "Well that's what happens to mutineers!"

When he is singing, I found myself wondering if he had any consideration for those people that were there because they didn't do anything wrong and maybe they didn't want to hear singing 24/7.

Man, I'm meaner than I thought I was because I had zero sympathy for Gaeta.

I guess for me, the Mutiny kind off falls under a grey area. Like Kenny indicated, the whole crew mutinied, and Felix was following orders of Helo. Starbuck seemed to be going crazy, and most of the crew viewed her as being influenced by the enemy cylon Leoben. As well, Admiral Adama had told them to rendezvous back with the fleet at a certain time, so in a sense Helo and Felix were following higher orders.

On a personal level with the character of Felix Gaeta, his is the character I most identify with on the show. If I saw myself in a character, it would be his. It might be because he is a technical person, and I relate that to what I do for a living. As well, he is not a warrior like the others, and his heroism came from following the orders of Admiral Adama, or from getting the information the resistance needed from Baltar and the Cylons commanding office. Probably the most tense episode from last season for me, was the one where he was going to be airlocked. For me, the show would be emptier without him, even though his role is not a major one, and most of the time he is a background or secondary character. So I guess last night, I just felt really bad for him, as I was hoping he would come out of it alright. But since this is BSG, I pretty much knew he would lose his leg.

X · May 17, 2008, 10:02:17 AM

Kenny, don't get me wrong, I loved his singing, but the military part of me was still unforgiving of the whole mutiny. He was one of the initial voices for it and in the zero hour, Superman I mean Helo decided to jump aboard. I think that those that mutinied were let off easy.

I don't think anything should happen to Anders because he was protecting the captain's command and stopping a mutiny. By all military terms, he was in the right.

Sure Kara seemed a little crazy, but that's what they signed up for. She had a hunch and a feeling that she knew the path to Earth. They agreed to follow those hunches and feelings when they signed on. If she knew without doubt where Earth was, I don't think they would have needed to send them out to find it.

They got a little sir crazy and decided to seize control of the ship. No matter their intentions, it was still mutiny and the only thing Anders did was stop the mutiny.

moyer777 · May 17, 2008, 04:29:49 PM

I felt that this episode was like a work of art. From the music to the editing to the filming style, it was all excellent. I started shouting out loud when the president asked to find out who had been starting the rumors... the singing was haunting and the whole show was done up AMAZING for it's duration. Now that is some good BSG!

What's gonna happen??? hmmmmmm. :cylon

billybob476 · May 18, 2008, 06:54:21 AM

Loved this episode, and I must say that I thought the base ship jumping into the middle of the fleet was one of the best effects sequences since Exodus part 2.

Darth Gaos · May 18, 2008, 09:32:09 PM

I saw a flash of Romo Lampkin in the coming preview. Any thought of him being the final Cylon model? I thought it was interesting we saw him for a few eps in Season 3 then nothing, now he is popping up again. Whether he is or isn't, he is a great character and I am definitely glad we will be seeing him again.

billybob476 · May 19, 2008, 04:49:51 AM

Actually, the way they zoomed in on Gaeta in the last scene had me start to suspect him.

Rico · May 19, 2008, 05:03:31 AM

Lot's going on in the last episode or two. I'm still thinking the final Cylon model has to be something a bit more different or unique. Especially since the fifth didn't hear the music and get "called" with the other four at the end of season 3. I don't think it's Gaeta, but he has been a possible rumor for awhile. And Darth, I think Romo is a possibility too. I like his character a lot.

It's funny, but sometimes they don't think about things enough. Don't the colonials (Athena, Starbuck, etc...) know the hybrids control the jump drive and other systems on the base ships? So they just plug her back in? Seems kind of like a mistake.

Anyway, the show is really winding up. Too bad we will have a big break soon after they air a few more episodes. Still no date on when the second half of season 4 will be airing.

Bryancd · May 19, 2008, 05:31:34 AM

It was a very solid episode. Gaeta's singing was a little annoying and I think a red herring to make us think he might be the final Cylon.

billybob476 · May 19, 2008, 05:33:57 AM

I know, when they were plugging her back in I was like "Isn't that going to turn the ship back on?"

wraith1701 · May 19, 2008, 07:42:42 AM

Quote from: billybob476 on May 19, 2008, 05:33:57 AM
I know, when they were plugging her back in I was like "Isn't that going to turn the ship back on?"

Same here.

With Roslyn and her entourage trapped who-knows-where on the damaged basestar, the writers have really kicked it up a notch.

Does anyone have any theories on how the final five could possibly be from earth? We keep hearing how they've been there. I'm still having trouble figuring out how this will work out, but I trust that the producers have something awesome up their sleeves.

X · May 19, 2008, 07:56:22 AM

Well, for them to know the location or existence of Earth, that implies that someone at some point had returned from earth. Also given that the signal to the final five was from a marker to Earth, that might suggest it lets them know where home is and woke them up.

Beyond that, I'm clueless.

lostrekkie · May 23, 2008, 07:54:05 PM

I know many people have been complaining about how slow the BSG plot is this season, but I have loved. What really is pushing this season forward is not the plot, but the characters. The writers are completely evolving many of their characters. Sure I would like to know more about what's going on, but I think that working on character development is really a smart choice, especially after the life changing moments of last seasons finale. Anyways, thats just my take.

institches · May 23, 2008, 08:02:32 PM

Oh, I agree. Character development alone is soap opera, technical problems is NasaCast. A blend keeps it interesting.

Bromptonboy · May 27, 2008, 03:37:54 AM

I am thinking that I understand that chestnut about Starburck being the 'Harbinger of Death'. My idea is that she will be the one that pulls the trigger on the Cylon Resurrection Hub - thus bringing true mortality to the Cylons - or bringing final death to them. No possibility of parole or resurrection the next time they get offed.