Galactica - Season 4 discussion (spoilers)

Darth Gaos · June 02, 2008, 01:11:37 PM

OK, thanks Rco, that is kinda what I was getting at. So, if I have this correctly.....the female models of the "known seven" are able to procreate, just not with the male models of the aforementioned "known seven". The final 5 apparently CAN procreate and with other Cylons. Very interesting. I hope there is backstory given to things like this once the secrets start coming out...cuz my obvious question is....why?

X · June 06, 2008, 10:45:58 PM

I think I figured out the FINAL CYLON!!!!

Tonight's show was great, but I think I know the last Cylon

And the winner is ....

Starbuck's Viper

Geekyfanboy · June 06, 2008, 11:14:15 PM

Another fantastic episode.. I love Mary McDonald (Roslin) she really shined in this episode. I did wish Baltar died, but I can still hope :)

Only two more episodes before the long hiatus.

billybob476 · June 07, 2008, 04:59:06 AM

Actually I think next week is the last. The preview for next week said something about last episode until 2009. It would make sense if it were, according to the preview.

Geekyfanboy · June 07, 2008, 08:27:30 AM

I thought about that after I posted that.. but I don't remember they saying anything about this being the last until 2009...But then again billybob your up in Canada.. so maybe the previews were different then the US.

Geekyfanboy · June 07, 2008, 08:32:02 AM

I just checked the website and it is the Summer Finale next Friday :( I can't believe there is only one episode left until the long hiatus... but from the previews it looks like it will be an AWESOME one.

billybob476 · June 07, 2008, 09:39:12 AM

I have a feeling that while not all, MUCH will be reveled...

Darth Gaos · June 09, 2008, 07:43:01 AM

Yeah....just enough to make us all really, REALLY mad that we have to wait until 2009 for some resolution.

All I can say about this weeks ep is WHOA! That was one of the best all-around episodes of the whole series. It pretty much had everything...action, drama, a bit of comedy, great effects....just an absolutely solid episode.

Rico · June 09, 2008, 08:17:13 AM

I was listening to one of Ron Moore's commentary shows this morning (I think it was only episode 3 of season 4 - still catching up) and a few general thoughts popped into my head.

1.) First, we know the Cylons were created by man. So man would have created the older Cylon models we saw in Razor. Then they "evolved." So this means the more mechanical Cylons "made" the human looking ones? Why does this seem hard to believe? Also, why would they still have centurions around? Wouldn't the mechanical Cylons have to be smarter in order to create the human versions, resurrection hubs and all that?

2.) Why did the hybrid in the last episode take Roslyn and the others to the resurrection hub? Did the Sharon model reprogram her? I thought the hybrid had independent thought?

billybob476 · June 09, 2008, 08:59:41 AM

Well, if that ship was the one the rebel Cylons were working off of, it would stand to reason that if the ship had independent thought it would also be going along with the rebellion.

Rico · June 09, 2008, 09:03:42 AM

Quote from: billybob476 on June 09, 2008, 08:59:41 AM
Well, if that ship was the one the rebel Cylons were working off of, it would stand to reason that if the ship had independent thought it would also be going along with the rebellion.

Yeah, I guess. But I thought it was almost more than that. Wasn't there a point in the episode when the Sharon has her hand in the water control thing and starts to realize they are jumping towards the hub? They didn't even seem to ask the hybrid to do that. They even try to stop her at one point. It's almost if there is another guiding influence going on. God??

Jobydrone · June 10, 2008, 05:46:38 AM

It seems to me the whole story is telling us that for humans and cylons to survive, they will have to coexist in peace together. Given that the hybrid is prescient, perhaps she knows that the only way this will happen is with the destruction of the resurrection hub and so jumping the rebels there is her way of furthering this agenda and preserving both races.

Something I find unusual is that in an earlier episode the hybrid called Kara the bringer of death, which I thought referred to the destruction of the resurrection hub, effectively bringing true death to the cylon race, but then it turned out Kara wasn't even there when it happened. I'd lay the responsibility and title of "bringer of death" more on Roslyn than Kara.

X · June 10, 2008, 05:49:28 AM

But you have to consider that Kara did set things in motion that would allow Cylon death. She forged the treaty and sold their plan to the colonials. Seems like a good Harbinger of Death to me.

Rico · June 10, 2008, 05:55:01 AM

Perhaps it's more the death of the cylons way of life. If the remaining human type cyclons join with the humans then it will be an end to their way of existing. And Kara did bring back the baseship and set things in motion for much of what has recently happened.

billybob476 · June 10, 2008, 05:58:31 AM

The definition of "harbinger" is "One that indicates or foreshadows what is to come; a forerunner."

With this in mind, Kara did not need to be the one that destroyed the resurrection hub, just the sign that death was coming. Also this came to me as a surprise. I assumed that Kara would be the harbinger of death for the humans, not the Cylons. However, I guess it makes sense since only Cylons told her about it.