Galactica - Season 4 discussion (spoilers)

[Rico]

Ok, let's get the season 4 discussion going!   :cylon

I thought the first episode was great.  I'm glad they picked up right after the big cliffhanger of season 3.  The opening battle was amazing.  The effects for this show continue to impress and get even more amazing with every show.  I'm not sure what to think with Anders and the Cylon staring contest.  Did the Cylon just recognize Anders as a Cylon or did it transmit something to him?  The return of Starbuck was very interesting.  Her ship being in perfect shape, the time difference, etc.  My thoughts is Starbuck is sort of like an angel now like they did with the ship of light in the old Galactica.  Some form of higher beings saved her, took her to Earth and brought her back to help guide the Galactica to Earth.  They also gave her this ability to "sense" where Earth is.  I really don't think she's a Cylon.  That just doesn't really fit to me.  I loved the reaction by everyone to her return.  It all fit.  Lee accepts her and Anders too.  The Admiral wants to believe her.  I'm a bit surprised by the president.  She's been one of the most spiritual of the group yet she doesn't trust Kara.  I guess she has been duped too often.  The whole bit with Baltar and his "cult" was interesting.  He certainly attracts the pretty women around him.  Overall, a great start for season 4 I thought.

[X]

I think when Anders' eye went red it was after he was scanned and he sent a signal for it to leave him alone. He let it know that they were family. I don't think it was something that he controlled anymore than the glowing spines they get from doing other stuff. That was more self preservation than anything else to me.

My favorite line was when Starbuck told Anders that he was better than her.

I also like how she dismissed the clone egg theory that my wife had before the show aired on how she was back.

My opinion is that she went to the ship of lights and they helped her.

[Blackride]

I think the raider not only scanned Anders but it's sole purpose was to send a message to initiate something else. They never had any intention except to put the other cylons into some action.

I do agree with you Rico that the president's mood has definitely changed in regards to her faith. Maybe this is due to the fact that the cancer is back?


Over all a good episode, not as good as Exodus but still good. Can you tell I thought Exodus was the best TV I've seen in a long time? The effects we great as usual and the music 2ND to none.....

[X]

I think the raider not only scanned Anders but it's sole purpose was to send a message to initiate something else. They never had any intention except to put the other cylons into some action.

From the Six on the ship, I don't think that the cylons knew that the final five were on the ship until after anders did his eye thing.

They destroyed too many ships and people for me to think that they went into the battle knowing that the final five were in the fleet. Normally there would have been one of the final five on the ship that was destroyed. If they knew that they were in the fleet before the battle, they wouldn't have taken the chance.

[Geekyfanboy]

I pretty much have the same sentiments as Rico.. loved the battle scene at the beginning, this show has always impressed me with their special effects.

Also when Tigh shot Adama. I thought oh this must be a dream then the scene went on a bit longer then expected and I thought.. OMG.. they killed off Admiral Adama.

Starbucks return was cool. Not sure what she is, don't think she's a cylon and I'm not sure if they should trust her. In Razor the cylon/hybrid said that Starbuck would be the destruction of the human race. But then again it was a cylon saying this.

Roslin has defiantly changed, she seems more hard, not very trusting of Starbuck. But than again the way the show ended I couldn't blame her.

I enjoyed how each of the new (four) cylons accepted who they are. They all accepted it a bit differently.

I don't think the Raider was giving commands to Anders. I think Anders was revealing itself to the Raider, letting them know that the final five are active. As soon as he did they backed off knowing that the cylon's final plan has gone into action. I would be surprised if we say a large battle again. I think the final five activation was the last piece of the cylons plan.

A really good first episode and this looks to be one of the best seasons of Galactica.. this show is going to go out with a bang.

[Rico]

One thing I have been thinking about is the four new "cylons" were activated before the cylon attack fleet showed up.  How was that done?  Were they just all on some kind of timer?  The music they were hearing leads you to think it was signal they received.  Is that then how the attack fleet found them?  So if that is the case - why attack?  There is no need then because they know there are other cylons on Galactica.  But the weird thing is this hasn't stopped the cylons before.  It's like there is another player controlling things.  These new four also seem to be revered by the rest of the cylon models.  I think that's going to give the humans an edge they can use.  Anyway, lots to ponder and think about.

[sheldor]

When the four were revealed last year, it struck me as too much of a coincidence that Cylons destroyed Caprica and yet the remaining models all survived.  A setup from the start ?   Were they cylons from the beginning or "body snatched" sometime during their life ?

I have to think the Cylons - now that they know about the four - will not attack the fleet again.

The time-dilation idea with Starbuck was unexpected.  I thought pointing her gun at the president was a little much - even for Cara.  Have to see what happens next week.

I'm not even sure what to think about Gaius and how that story will mesh into the rest of the season.   Good to see everyone clean shaven. :)

This show has been on top from the start.  Glad I will see how it ends but at the same time - sad it will end.

[Blackride]

I also love how Baltar keeps looking more and more like Jesus.....

I still think that one of the 7 know who the 5 are and this has been a set up from the begining. Just like they had to shut down a whole line of the cylons because of the way they were acting.

The downfall of the Cylons will be that they act and become too human with all of our flaws etc.. So by their attempting to become more human by understanding Love (The 5th Element)it will actually be their down fall. Just my thought.

[X]

I think he's looking more like Judas in my opinion.

As for the Cylons, I'm not sure of who's who, but I'm thinking that Chief is going to be upset when he finds out that the kid isn't his.

[sheldor]

Speaking of the chief.  If he's a cylon then his kid is another hybrid, right ?  Or is he not the father ?

[Geekyfanboy]

There has been no indication that the Chief's kid isn't his. And yes it is a cylon/human  hybrid.

[Geekyfanboy]

Oh something else I just though of.. Chief and Boomer were an item and both of them were cylons.. but Boomer/Athena never knew.

[X]

What about Tigh killing his wife for sleeping with collusion with the Cylons? Reminds me of that Dave Chappel skit about the blind racist that found out his was black and divorced his wife for being with a black man.

[sheldor]

What's everyone opinion on who the final cylon will be ?   Based on Deanna's reaction, sounds like someone we already know.

[billybob476]

...and potentially someone she has been directly unkind to.