HBO's Game of Thrones

ChrisMC · May 06, 2012, 07:24:30 PM

Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 06, 2012, 07:07:20 PM
Wow - eventful episode!
[spoiler]I think they are departing from the story. I don't recall the dragons being stolen like that. Sir Roderic was killed by Ramsey Snow\Bolton in battle, not executed by Theon.[/spoiler]

Yes, they are deviating a bit. But I think the outcome will ultimately be the same.

Bromptonboy · May 14, 2012, 08:21:31 AM

Quote from: QuadShot on April 16, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
Pete, which one is she?

She is the wife of Renly, and the sister of Sir Loris Tyrell

Bromptonboy · May 14, 2012, 08:23:47 AM

Great episode last night, but more departures from the book.
[spoiler]The one bit I didn't like was when they had Jaime kill his cousin, which didn't occur in the book. I don't see what that buys us. If anything, in book 2 Jaime's motivations are actually made clearer, and he becomes somewhat more sympathetic. IMHO. [/spoiler]

Rico · May 17, 2012, 05:11:52 AM

Some nasty business in this season and the most recent episode. I'm starting to have mixed feelings again about this series.

[spoiler]I have to say, I'm not enjoying this season that much. In fact, it's become a bit of a chore to watch the latest episode. Everyone just seems so darn nasty and messed up - with just a few exceptions. And the end of this recent episode with the burned bodies of those kids!?! Yeah, I don't think it's the Stark kids - but still - nasty. Picking on children? Just not very honorable - even in war.[/spoiler]

Bromptonboy · May 17, 2012, 05:20:21 AM

Westeros is a great place to read about, but a terrible place to live..
[spoiler]Yeah, those bodies were a shock, that is for certain. That does happen in the book. It shows how low Theon has fallen. It is a cruel world that GRRM writes about. You are right, there are very few redeeming characters. But, those you despise now, may find redemption, and the other way round.
I hated seeing Jaime Lanister kill his cousin in the cage. That didn't happen in the book. It makes him look like a raving insane beast.[/spoiler]

Jobydrone · May 17, 2012, 05:48:15 AM

It's a shame...[spoiler]that there's never any serious thought that the bodies could possibly be Bran and Rick. Reading the book I remember getting so upset and angry that I had to put it down and step away for a few days before I could continue reading. I called a friend of mine who had read them all and bitterly complained at how devastated I was, and he was so cruel and tortured me with lies until I finally picked up and read further. Even then I think it's a couple of chapters before they reveal the deception. They didn't seem to even try to make you think that Bran and Rick were ever caught by Theon in the show. A missed opportunity IMO.[/spoiler]

X · May 17, 2012, 05:50:28 AM

Quote from: Jobydrone on May 17, 2012, 05:48:15 AM
It's a shame...[spoiler]that there's never any serious thought that the bodies could possibly be Bran and Rick. Reading the book I remember getting so upset and angry that I had to put it down and step away for a few days before I could continue reading. I called a friend of mine who had read them all and bitterly complained at how devastated I was, and he was so cruel and tortured me with lies until I finally picked up and read further. Even then I think it's a couple of chapters before they reveal the deception. They didn't seem to even try to make you think that Bran and Rick were ever caught by Theon in the show. A missed opportunity IMO.[/spoiler]

Given the format ...

[spoiler]I thought about that too, but how do you pull that off on tv? [/spoiler]

Jobydrone · May 17, 2012, 05:57:15 AM

Quote from: X on May 17, 2012, 05:50:28 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 17, 2012, 05:48:15 AM
It's a shame...[spoiler]that there's never any serious thought that the bodies could possibly be Bran and Rick. Reading the book I remember getting so upset and angry that I had to put it down and step away for a few days before I could continue reading. I called a friend of mine who had read them all and bitterly complained at how devastated I was, and he was so cruel and tortured me with lies until I finally picked up and read further. Even then I think it's a couple of chapters before they reveal the deception. They didn't seem to even try to make you think that Bran and Rick were ever caught by Theon in the show. A missed opportunity IMO.[/spoiler]
Given the format ...

[spoiler]I thought about that too, but how do you pull that off on tv? [/spoiler]

I think it could quite easily have been done...[spoiler]with just a few cuts of Bran and Rick in the woods, flash cut to Theon and the dogs behind, you know, pretty simple with a bit of effort to make it appear they've been caught. Then next episode or whenever they decide to reveal the deception they could flash back or reveal it some other way. Perhaps the show's producers thought it would be just too cruel to jerk people around but that doesn't seem to jibe with the way they seemed to take glee in surprises like Eddard's beheading and Bran's flight out the window last season. Maybe they just miscalculated and really were trying to fool people, but didn't realize how obvious the deception was.[/spoiler]

Jobydrone · May 17, 2012, 06:06:05 AM

Quote from: Rico on May 17, 2012, 05:11:52 AM
Some nasty business in this season and the most recent episode. I'm starting to have mixed feelings again about this series.

[spoiler]I have to say, I'm not enjoying this season that much. In fact, it's become a bit of a chore to watch the latest episode. Everyone just seems so darn nasty and messed up - with just a few exceptions. And the end of this recent episode with the burned bodies of those kids!?! Yeah, I don't think it's the Stark kids - but still - nasty. Picking on children? Just not very honorable - even in war.[/spoiler]

Rico there's too much to watch and too little time in life to spend forcing yourself to try to enjoy something. If it's not up your alley, there's nothing wrong with that! "Know thyself." I'd still suggest you give the books a try and then perhaps you'd be more tempted to watch the series after.

edit to add: only a minor non specific spoiler [spoiler]the things that bother you about this show continue all through and some would say get worse[/spoiler]

X · May 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM

Quote from: Rico on May 17, 2012, 05:11:52 AM
Some nasty business in this season and the most recent episode. I'm starting to have mixed feelings again about this series.

[spoiler]I have to say, I'm not enjoying this season that much. In fact, it's become a bit of a chore to watch the latest episode. Everyone just seems so darn nasty and messed up - with just a few exceptions. And the end of this recent episode with the burned bodies of those kids!?! Yeah, I don't think it's the Stark kids - but still - nasty. Picking on children? Just not very honorable - even in war.[/spoiler]

My advice is simple. Run.

If the show follows the books, it's only going to get more intense. If you're having reservations now, it might be better to bow out sooner than later because they don't hold back. This world doesn't try to romanticize the era that they live in. In a lot of cases, the stories are much truer to our own past than we would like to think about. This is a harsh and brutal world where commoners become the play things and pawns in the world of the nobility. No one is safe and nothing is sacred. There is no honor in war and the strength and weakness of honor will play a big role in things to come.

Rico · May 17, 2012, 07:05:21 AM

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll probably finish out this season at least and make my choice. I was just hoping for some payback by now - and there hasn't been any. I just don't find watching some of the cruelty they portray on this show fun to watch. I was hoping for more of a balance.

Jobydrone · May 17, 2012, 07:05:51 AM

Let me take a screenshot and record this occasion...Chris and I have agreed twice on the same thread!!! Is there something going on with the alignment of the planets today? ;) ;) ;)

billybob476 · May 17, 2012, 09:27:07 AM

Game Of Thrones Theme on eight floppy drives

KingIsaacLinksr · May 22, 2012, 06:11:07 PM

Ergh:

[spoiler]Is it just me or did we suddenly have a bunch of stupid decisions in that last episode? First we have the one Mother release the KingSlayer in the hopes that they'll free her daughters.....ergah...and then we have the King of the North, lay down with some chick because she's kinda hot. That entire scene annoyed me because I saw it coming from a mile away. Oh hey, its no biggie, we're just fighting a war right now and we could potentially use those allies you just threw away. But you have your feelings after all. Look, I know he's the King and he has to screw up sometime, but that just felt out of character.

Didn't like the Mother of Dragons leaving her kids alone. That bothered me, but that storyline otherwise has been good.

That said...its a fairly enjoyable show so far. As long as I can keep the character names straight which has been difficult x_X....

What I have liked is the interactions with Tirion and the rest, that has been really enjoyable to watch, love that character. Even his digs at the King. [/spoiler]

King

Bromptonboy · May 22, 2012, 07:12:24 PM

[spoiler]Yeah, many of these items went down differently in the book. Regarding the King in the North - Rob - he does something like that in the book, but it is with a daughter of a minor lord who serves Tywin Lanister... This really pisses off the Frey family (the family that own the fortified bridge - and the family he promised to marry into...) which will have repercussions
I don't recall the dragons being kidnapped in the book. But they have to simplify for TV. Tyrion is the best though, isn't he?!.[/spoiler]