Has anyone heard any more rumors about this book being turned into a movie? I had read someplace that HBO had bought the rights. It boggles my mind how they would boil this one down for a movie. Perhaps a miniseries?
Found this via Google. Looks it is coming to HBO:
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/george-rr-martins-game-of-thrones-heads-to-hbo-with-dinklage-and-mccarthy (http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/george-rr-martins-game-of-thrones-heads-to-hbo-with-dinklage-and-mccarthy)
and this...
http://screenrant.com/song-of-fire-and-ice-brusimm-6547/ (http://screenrant.com/song-of-fire-and-ice-brusimm-6547/)
The pilot still seems to be moving ahead at full steam. Lots of info at GRRM's personal site and at westeros.org forums. I believe there's also a website/fansite tracking news of the production. Some cast has been announced, like Tyrion, others have been cast but still not made public. It's going to be a series, if picked up, 1 book per season. Details about # of episodes etc are on the above mentioned sites.
Oh yea.... Winter is coming. ::grin::
There's a bunch of new casting announcements at GRRMs blog via georgerrmartin.com
HBO Gives Green Light to A Game of Thrones
Source:The Hollywood Reporter
March 2, 2010
HBO has given the green light to fantasy series "A Game of Thrones," says The Hollywood Reporter. The first season is scheduled to premiere next spring. Nine episodes plus the pilot have been ordered. Production will begin in Belfast this June.
Based on the George R.R. Martin novels, the story is set in the mythical land of Westeros and centers on the noble Stark family who become caught up in high court intrigue when patriarch Eddard (played by Sean Bean) becomes the king's new right-hand man.
The four-and-counting books in the series would each be used as one season of the series.
Lena Headey Plays Game of Thrones
Source:The Hollywood Reporter
September 2, 2009
Lena Headey ("Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles," 300) will co-star in HBO's fantasy pilot "Game of Thrones," an adaptation of the George R.R. Martin fantasy book series that chronicles a battle among seven kingdoms and two ruling families for control of the Iron Throne.
She will play Queen Cersei of House Lannister, wife of King Robert (Mark Addy) and sister of twin brother Jaime Lannister (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) and outsider younger brother Tyrion (Peter Dinkladge).
The cast of the pilot is led by previously cast Sean Bean as battle-weary Ned Stark, who leaves his home to serve the king.
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Sean Bean to Play Game of Thrones
Source:The Hollywood Reporter
July 19, 2009
Sean Bean will play the lead in "Game of Thrones," HBO's adaptation of the George R.R. Martin fantasy-book series, says The Hollywood Reporter. Tom McCarthy is directing; David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, who wrote the screenplay, are executive producing.
Mark Addy is in final negotiations to also join the production. Kit Harrington, Jack Gleeson and Harry Lloyd also have come aboard.
The books revolves around a battle among seven kingdoms and between two ruling families for control of the Iron Throne, the possession that ensures survival through a 40-year winter to come.
Bean will play Lord Eddard "Ned" Stark, known for his sense of honor and justice, who becomes closest adviser to King Robert (Addy).
Harrington will play Jon Snow, Bean's bastard son, and Lloyd will play Viserys, a powerless ruler who seeks to marry off his sister to a powerful king. Gleeson will play Joffrey, King Robert's son.
Peter Dinklage also is in the cast for the production, which is in the pilot stage and begins shooting in October in Ireland.
Cool! I enjoy this series. This sounds like a great treatment - a miniseries for each book. Perfect.
Here's the first image from the series.
SPOILERS - don't click this link if you haven't read all of the books and have any interest in enjoying either them or the upcoming HBO adaptation....
Sansa Stark's Twitter page:
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=14364591&postcount=835 (http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=14364591&postcount=835)
Here's a website belonging to a known LotR illustrator who has created some great illustrations of Westeros castles. They will be in the new ASoIaF calendar. Site has many of the images:
http://www.tednasmith.com/other/TN-Winterfell.html#winterfell (http://www.tednasmith.com/other/TN-Winterfell.html#winterfell)
Teaser Trailer..
http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1100909&filter=game-of-thro (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1100909&filter=game-of-thro)
Found it on You Tube as well..
Game of Thrones Teaser HBO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MophfvUlfI#)
Winter is coming...
There's a nice (nutshell) review of the books and author's technique at this site:
englishasaworldlanguage.blogspot.com/2010/07/song-of-ice-and-fire-game-of-thrones.html
I see a lot of news/info about the books and adaptation... If folks here are interested I'll be happy to post stuff, but I don't want it to seem like spam, so please let me know if it seems too much :)
Quote from: beer on July 27, 2010, 01:11:14 PM
There's a nice (nutshell) review of the books and author's technique at this site:
englishasaworldlanguage.blogspot.com/2010/07/song-of-ice-and-fire-game-of-thrones.html
I see a lot of news/info about the books and adaptation... If folks here are interested I'll be happy to post stuff, but I don't want it to seem like spam, so please let me know if it seems too much :)
Please do post the news!
For those in the UK, GRRM has confirmed that aGoT will be showing in the UK - on SKY. (up to now this had been an unknown and ironic since it's being filmed there)
SKY has bought rights to all of HBO's stuff.
Charles Dance Cast as Tywin Lannister: The last really major casting announcement has been made... http://bit.ly/aDMiB3 (http://bit.ly/aDMiB3)
Winter is coming... It is known... Hodor!
He is perfect!
I really hope they do not make the show as bloody as the books. I cringed alot with the violence in the books. Other than that these are some of my favorite stories.
I've been wondering about this as well. The books are sprickled with POV observations of the world around them - many times violent - for example those glimpsed by a spunky little horse-faced wolf.
It's being said that HBO is the network to tackle this project. I can't remember having watched the channel since Fraggle Rock in the 80's but will believe the ppl :) But I suspect even they will pull a lot of punches - perhaps having already done so with the aging of the kids.
I'm on the other side from you :) and hope they put everything in.
Also of note for fans here who haven't heard... They're creating a language for the series: Dorathaki <sp>
good, quick read:
theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/08/a-whole-new-world/60746/
Two new teasers
http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=grid&vid=1118723&autoplay=true (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=grid&vid=1118723&autoplay=true)
http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1118917&filter=game-of-thrones&view=null (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1118917&filter=game-of-thrones&view=null)
very exciting!!! Have you seen this: http://makinggameofthrones.com (http://makinggameofthrones.com)
also HBO now has official twitter acct for GoT news @gameofthrones (don't forget @westerosorg and @wicnet)
Big night - guess HBO got bunch of new subscribers just to see the previews during the truebood show.
@wicnet was posting "live" so it was kinda exciting, tho still: times like this I wish I had TV :)
My fiance's brother is getting HBO simply because of Game of Thrones. Both of them are huge fans of the books and I'm pretty sure that they're going to have Game of Thrones parties... or feasts, rather. ;) But it looks as if it's going to be fantastic.
source http://io9.com/5653546/geeks-guide-to-the-galaxy-+-at-last-a-podcast-on-io9 (http://io9.com/5653546/geeks-guide-to-the-galaxy-+-at-last-a-podcast-on-io9)
Starting next week, io9 will be the new home of popular podcast, Geek's Guide to the Galaxy. Next week's episode will feature an interview with author George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones). Get ready!
Geek's Guide to the Galaxy is an interview/talk show hosted by Lightspeed magazine editor John Joseph Adams, who has also edited numerous anthologies such as Wastelands and The Living Dead, along with author David Barr Kirtley, who has published short stories in many magazines as well as New Voices In Science Fiction and Fantasy: The Best of the Year.
The show, formerly hosted at Tor.com, covers fantasy and science fiction in literature, film, graphic novels, and video games, as well as related topics such as science, technology, and critical thinking. Guests include novelists such as Naomi Novik (the Temeraire Series), Holly Black (The Spiderwick Chronicles), and Paolo Bacigalupi (The Windup Girl), as well as filmmakers like Alexandre Philippe (The People vs. George Lucas), comic book writers like Marjorie Liu (Dark Wolverine) and science writers such as P. W. Singer (Wired for War).
We hope you're as excited as we are to welcome John and David into the operating room where we'll install their brain implants and make them io9ers. We'll be posting the new episode with George R. R. Martin next week on Wednesday.
Game of Thrones Trailer - HBO 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD2tvxa5Lqs#ws)
Inside Game Of Thrones - Extended Version (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psbBi7dLnT4#ws)
Inside Game of Thrones Video so FANTASTIC... really getting me excited for the series.. I may even go back and try and read the first novel again.. got about halfway through before giving up on it.. it's an extremely dark fantasy.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on December 30, 2010, 01:57:14 PM
Inside Game of Thrones Video so FANTASTIC... really getting me excited for the series.. I may even go back and try and read the first novel again.. got about halfway through before giving up on it.. it's an extremely dark fantasy.
This is a really great series, but it's also more realistic with it's politics and violence in the time frame that it's in. That being said, the series is also a very adult based series. Magic is not nice there and good does not always win.
Quote from: X on December 30, 2010, 02:02:15 PM
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on December 30, 2010, 01:57:14 PM
Inside Game of Thrones Video so FANTASTIC... really getting me excited for the series.. I may even go back and try and read the first novel again.. got about halfway through before giving up on it.. it's an extremely dark fantasy.
This is a really great series, but it's also more realistic with it's politics and violence in the time frame that it's in. That being said, the series is also a very adult based series. Magic is not nice there and good does not always win.
yeah the sex with kids and incest and such it was a bit much.. but now that I know the feel of the book I might be able to enjoy it more.
While I recall the incest, I don't remember the sex with kids. Which is a statement that I don't ever thought I'd write, let alone in a public setting. I can say that some thing get much better and some things get much darker, but in those dark places, some people rise up to become better than you ever expected them to be.
I really have to re-read this series to prep myself. Found the unabridged audiobook - might be the best bet to do get this done during the commute.
Quote from: X on December 31, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
While I recall the incest, I don't remember the sex with kids. Which is a statement that I don't ever thought I'd write, let alone in a public setting. I can say that some thing get much better and some things get much darker, but in those dark places, some people rise up to become better than you ever expected them to be.
I'm talking about Daenerys who is 13 has an arranged marriage to Khal Drogo, a warlord of nomadic Dothraki. Their sex scenes are way to rough and graphic.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on December 31, 2010, 09:29:43 AM
Quote from: X on December 31, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
While I recall the incest, I don't remember the sex with kids. Which is a statement that I don't ever thought I'd write, let alone in a public setting. I can say that some thing get much better and some things get much darker, but in those dark places, some people rise up to become better than you ever expected them to be.
I'm talking about Daenerys who is 13 has an arranged marriage to Khal Drogo, a warlord of nomadic Dothraki. Their sex scenes are way to rough and graphic.
I had to keep telling myself while I was reading it that back when life expectancy was much shorter and 13 was considered a legal age to get married. I also imagined her older when I had to. The first book is really good, but I'm absolutely stuck on Clash of Kings. Hopefully I'll be able to finish it by the time the series comes out, because it looks fantastic.
April 17, 2011. Game of Thrones. HBO. Be there!
Kit Harington wo plays Jon Snow in this. He's friends of Phil and Helen in our Missinghen group. Well done that man.
Quote from: Geekyfanboy on December 31, 2010, 09:29:43 AM
Quote from: X on December 31, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
While I recall the incest, I don't remember the sex with kids. Which is a statement that I don't ever thought I'd write, let alone in a public setting. I can say that some thing get much better and some things get much darker, but in those dark places, some people rise up to become better than you ever expected them to be.
See when I read that, I chalked it up to things that were normal in times like that. It didn't affect me because as a reader of history, 13 was the age a lot of girls were made wives to older men.
I'm talking about Daenerys who is 13 has an arranged marriage to Khal Drogo, a warlord of nomadic Dothraki. Their sex scenes are way to rough and graphic.
A little off topic, but when is the latest GRRM book to be released?
Quote from: Bromptonboy on January 09, 2011, 04:46:04 PM
A little off topic, but when is the latest GRRM book to be released?
6 years ago was the scheduled release date. Now were're in a holding pattern.
Quote from: X on January 09, 2011, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on January 09, 2011, 04:46:04 PM
A little off topic, but when is the latest GRRM book to be released?
6 years ago was the scheduled release date. Now were're in a holding pattern.
He better not pull a 'Robert Jordan' on us! Get busy GRRM!! (although take your time and do it right)
Game Of Thrones: An Invitation To Westeros (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLKVJr7QHjM#ws)
Another really cool trailer.
Game Of Thrones "Iron Throne" Trailer (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWIyCUHrESk#ws)
New Poster
That's kind of a weird throne.
Quote from: Rico on March 10, 2011, 04:30:32 PM
That's kind of a weird throne.
Throne of Swords!
Quote from: Rico on March 10, 2011, 04:30:32 PM
That's kind of a weird throne.
If I'm remembering correctly, it's made of the swords of the lords that surrendered to the first king
In re to the earlier question, "Dance..." is due out July 12th.
I believe the image of Ned on the Iron Throne (the official poster above) will be featured as the new aGoT paperback cover art. An amazing image imo.
Just posted: nearly 4 minute preview feature focusing on House Stark - incl each of the Stark children. Commentary by actors and George !!!
There's a new trailor tonight too - with new footage - haven't seen it yet ... look up @westerosorg and @wicnet on twitter for all the latest.
and perhaps you'd find the link to the above helpful as well (sheepish grin)
Game Of Thrones House of "Stark" Feature (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4sTrjgDacI#ws)
Here's that new video:
Game of Thrones (HBO) - "Fear and Blood" teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvwrC5X7iJI#ws)
A very odd but hilarious news? clip from Taiwan about HBO's Game of Thrones (and George in general) ...
George R.R. Martin: Fantasy blueballer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G6QyXl6d2M#ws)
HBO just aired the much anticipated (first) 15 minutes of Game of Thrones which officially begins in 2 weeks.
They have also just posted it online:
http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/4988/ (http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/4988/)
I've seen a trailer for this over here but I can't remember what channel it was on.
A quick check shows that we get the 15 min preview on Sky 1 on 14th April so I'm guessing that's where it will live.
Sky Atlantic Mike.
I actually picked up HBO for this series...
((and the wife and I can watch Boardwalk Empire - on demand))
Quote from: Dangelus on April 04, 2011, 06:22:14 AM
Sky Atlantic Mike.
Fair enough. That's the new one that Virgin One got pulled for isn't it? I've never had call to check whether I actually get it!
Quote from: Feathers on April 04, 2011, 07:40:56 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on April 04, 2011, 06:22:14 AM
Sky Atlantic Mike.
Fair enough. That's the new one that Virgin One got pulled for isn't it? I've never had call to check whether I actually get it!
Yes after Sky did the deal with Virgin to allow them the premium HD channels and Sky One HD in exchange for buying the Living channels and Virgin One they rebranded Virgin One and made it their new Premium TV channel (and a Sky Exclusive!). I expect a lot of the new US shows will go to Atlantic instead of Sky One now.
Well I bit the bullet and ordered HBO, just so I can watch this. I have been a fan of this series since the first book hit the market. So much depth to it. It does get dark at times, and Martin does such a good job at conveying the feelings of despair to the reader, I can see why it can be overwhelming to some.
I have always been a huge fan of intricate plots, and especially royal intrigue and politics. I am really, really excited about this. I have high hopes for it since Martin is involved also.
Starts tonight!
Game Of Thrones "Epic" Promo (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiiQu1rQQR4#ws)
Yeah, really looking forward to this one. DVR is set and ready.
So excited to see this!!! :)
Well, if you saw the premiere what did you think? I was blown away by it. They have done just a great job in making the book come alive. I love the cast so far. Especially Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister. I am so looking forward to see how he plays that character. Sean Bean is a great Eddard Stark. The sets were great so far.
I can't wait to see more of The Wall, and that story line either.
I know there was probably more sex and adult content then some may like, but unlike some shows where it's just gratuitous, it was right in line with the characters. In the books you ended up understanding why the characters act they way they do, I sure hope that translates to the screen as well.
Anyway I thought it was a great premier! Well done HBO!
Quote from: Duffster on April 18, 2011, 06:10:32 AM
Well, if you saw the premiere what did you think? I was blown away by it. They have done just a great job in making the book come alive. I love the cast so far. Especially Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister. I am so looking forward to see how he plays that character. Sean Bean is a great Eddard Stark. The sets were great so far.
I can't wait to see more of The Wall, and that story line either.
I know there was probably more sex and adult content then some may like, but unlike some shows where it's just gratuitous, it was right in line with the characters. In the books you ended up understanding why the characters act they way they do, I sure hope that translates to the screen as well.
Anyway I thought it was a great premier! Well done HBO!
I'm reading the first book right now and I'd say there is quite a bit of secual content in them, if they left it out I don't think it'd be quite right. Gonna hold off on the show until I finish the book.
Is the series only based on the first book?
From what I understand, each mini-series will be on a different book. So yea, the ones currently showing will be on the first book. 10 episodes I believe.
I watched the first episode last night - and so far I am onboard. Some slight changes in the first scene - but nothing too drastic changed. I hope that it attracts enough viewers - I really loved the HBO series 'Rome' and was crushed when it only made 2 seasons. Let's hope this one does better.
I think the advantage here is that the books have a built in fan base.
OK.
I've not read the books and I'm not a HUGE fantasy guy but I thought I'd check it out.
Great production and acting with quite a few familiar faces in there. I am liking the characters so far.
Like I said I've not read the books but a couple of things are bugging me.
a) The swearing seems out if place and unnecessary. I know it's HBO so it's part of the course but it doesn't add anything.
b) The nudity is a little much. I lost count of how many naked people were in the first episode. Does it add anything to the story?
I will keep watching but I think I may need to do a little background research on the story to try and figure out a little more about what's happening. Is it another world?
Anyway, a promising start.
Quote from: Dangelus on April 18, 2011, 01:22:12 PM
OK.
I've not read the books and I'm not a HUGE fantasy guy but I thought I'd check it out.
Great production and acting with quite a few familiar faces in there. I am liking the characters so far.
Like I said I've not read the books but a couple of things are bugging me.
a) The swearing seems out if place and unnecessary. I know it's HBO so it's part of the course but it doesn't add anything.
b) The nudity is a little much. I lost count of how many naked people were in the first episode. Does it add anything to the story?
I will keep watching but I think I may need to do a little background research on the story to try and figure out a little more about what's happening. Is it another world?
Anyway, a promising start.
To answer your questions:
a) It keeps true to the books and the world.
b) Again it keeps true to the books and it also shows how little value they place on the females there. I'm glad they didn't mention Daeny's age on screen yet because that would have turned some head.
This is a VERY brutal world where life is cheap in the game of thrones, but it's also a beautiful story.
It is happening on another world, when it starts, you see a good part of that world on the maps.
Well, we should all jump on board. HBO has just announced a renewal for a season two after airing only one episode. They are like the Anti-FOX. ;)
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-renewed/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-renewed/)
Quote from: Rico on April 19, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
Well, we should all jump on board. HBO has just announced a renewal for a season two after airing only one episode. They are like the Anti-FOX. ;)
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-renewed/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-renewed/)
o_O well, "what a twist!".
King
So, I just watched the first episode. Pretty interesting stuff so far. I can definitely see a lot of foreshadowing of things to come. The actors are well picked. I'm liking the Peter Dinklage "Imp" character a lot. And Sean Bean is awesome as always. The guy should only do epic fantasy stuff - period. He is perfect in things like this. The production values are amazing. HBO definitely spent the big bucks on this. I've not read the books, so I'm trusting from what others have said that they are doing ok so far. But I will say, this series is certainly not for the squeamish. There were even a couple moments in the first episode that made me question watching it. Not the nudity, or the sex, but a few other little things. I don't want to say too much or give anything away. I'll maybe put it in a spoiler box below. Anyway, I'm certainly going to keep watching to see where this all goes.
[spoiler]The two parts that got me were the spot in the woods when they found the dire wolf pups. I'm not sure I could have taken them killing them. Besides, I hope they grow up and protect those kids. They are going to need them. And the other part was the end of the episode. I could see it coming, but pushing the boy off that ledge out the window?!? What a bastard! I really can't wait for Sean Bean to learn about that. That pretty boy needs to be chopped down - badly.[/spoiler]
Rico, I certainly get what you are saying. I have read a lot of series in my life. And I gotta say this is one of the only series of books where I actually yelled out loud in astonishment and sometimes anger at some of the stuff that happens. I am not gonna spoil anything, but there are some amazingly horrible people, and evil things happening in these books. I love how it all unfolds in the books, and it looks like the show gonna stay true to that.
This is gonna be a great ride...everybody buckle up!
As long as there is a lot of payback, I'm ok with that stuff. But I just hope the payback isn't too long in coming.
Some ratings info for the premiere. Got good ratings - not great.
The heavily hyped debut of Game of Thrones couldn't come close to the premiere of HBO's last big drama series, Boardwalk Empire, yet it still turned in a solid number Sunday night.
The first episode delivered a decent 2.2 million viewers for its premiere airing, then a rather strong 1.2 million for its first encore (the NBA playoff game between the Celtics and Knicks might have pushed some viewership to the second airing), and another 800,000 for the third telecast for an overall healthy total of 4.2 million. HBO then aired Thrones six times across all its channels Monday night, and those numbers will be added to this post later today.
Thrones first telecast was down 54 percent from the premiere of 2010′s Boardwalk (4.8 million) which received an immediate second season renewal. Yet HBO always takes into account what Sunday show was used to ramp up viewers to the new program's premiere, and Thrones had a weak platform — Mildred Pierce, which averaged around 1 million viewers, a number Thrones more than doubled.
What's perhaps the closest ratings comparison to a fantasy series like Thrones is HBO's other genre drama, True Blood. A prestigious crime drama Boardwalk is much more in the traditional HBO viewership wheelhouse. Compared to the vampire show, Thrones did really well. Blood only opened with 1.4 million viewers, and similarly had no real platform to launch from, but then went on to grow week after week into a major hit for the network.
Also, and this is important, in the UK the premiere did really well — Thrones set a Sky Atlantic ratings record with 750,000 viewers, beating the previous record holder, which was ... Boardwalk Empire.
So what does all this mean for Thrones? The premiere number is good, not great. HBO would have loved for the first airing of Thrones to have been in the 3 million range, but will definitely take anything in the 2s. The next question: How many viewers will stick around next week?
UPDATE: Thrones repeat airings on Monday added another 1.2 million to the viewership tally (this is definitely considered good, btw).
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-premiere-ratings/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/19/game-of-thrones-premiere-ratings/)
Despite the "low" ratings it was renewed for a second season!
They kind of mention it in the article, but I feel like a fantasy/sci fi series would generally debut with lower numbers as the "general public" would not be quite as interested in tuning in. I mean, we've been anticipating this, Rico interviewed the author on the show. But I'd say we live in a bit of a genre bubble where things like this are a much bigger deal.
Quote from: Rico on April 20, 2011, 06:05:30 AM
As long as there is a lot of payback, I'm ok with that stuff. But I just hope the payback isn't too long in coming.
LOL! Wait until you see how your words turn out.
Quote from: X on April 21, 2011, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: Rico on April 20, 2011, 06:05:30 AM
As long as there is a lot of payback, I'm ok with that stuff. But I just hope the payback isn't too long in coming.
LOL! Wait until you see how your words turn out.
Now, I'm excited! :)
I thought last nights episode kept things going well. I have been loving it so far, but I wonder if some people may think these first few episodes have been a bit slow. There is so much character development in these stories I hope people don't give up on it for being slow. There is tons of action coming and it is so worth it.
Oh, and how much do you hate the Lannisters now?
Quote from: Duffster on April 25, 2011, 09:30:18 AM
I thought last nights episode kept things going well. I have been loving it so far, but I wonder if some people may think these first few episodes have been a bit slow. There is so much character development in these stories I hope people don't give up on it for being slow. There is tons of action coming and it is so worth it.
Oh, and how much do you hate the Lannisters now?
Slow? I think it's moving WAY too fast.
Just watched episode two. As Mr. Takei likes to say, "Oh, my!"
[spoiler]I know those dire wolves would come into play. I seriously despise most of the Lannisters now. Like I said previously I want justice - fast. Like a few have said, there are some seriously evil and messed up people in this world. And I want them all to pay. I guess this means I'm enjoying it so far since I'm caught up in the characters and the Starks story. [/spoiler]
Bring on episode 3!
All I have to say is brace yourself and remember what you say now. If your feelings play out like mine did in the books, you'll end up hating yourself because you've forgiven certain ... things.
Forgive?!?! I can't see forgiving anything that certain people have done so far. At least I'm really enjoying the "little Lannister." Peter Dinklage is awesome!
I'm just about halfway through the first book (in audio form). Definitely way beyond where the show is so far. There is still much to come :)
I agree with X for sure in the way my feelings changed about certain things as the books have been evolving. That's why I like them so much. I have a lot of respect and amazement with an author that can make me feel so emotionally different about certain things as the story evolves. Like I said before it's gonna be a wild ride.
And your also in for a treat. I think the little Lannister is the most complex and interesting character in all the books.
I was loving it when "the Imp" was slapping that little brat Lannister in the last episode. Awesome stuff!
I've been watching, to say the least it has been an intense couple of episodes. This borders on what I'm willing to watch, (Well, truth be told, its gone over my comfort zone, but I understand its part of the story) but the characters and their interactions are deep and intriguing. As Duffster said, I can respect someone for bringing out such emotions in just two episodes. (Or two chapters). To say the least, I truly dislike the Lannisters. To have a villain despised so much so quickly, has some good writing behind it.
And no, I have not read the book either.
King
I've recorded the first two (yes, it's on over here already) but haven't had the time to watch them yet. I haven't read the books so I'll be interested to see if I can stay the course.
I would love to watch this but as it's only on Sky tv over that's a no no for me, no way I can do £50 a month. Bad enough paying a licence fee. But at least the next book has finally got a release date.
I think I am hooked...the trick is getting the wife to watch as well - otherwise I have to catch 20 min here and 20 min there each week. I had the same problem with 'Rome' - but got her hooked.
Quote from: stonut on May 01, 2011, 06:39:42 AM
I would love to watch this but as it's only on Sky tv over that's a no no for me, no way I can do £50 a month. Bad enough paying a licence fee. But at least the next book has finally got a release date.
I pay £20 a month but I understand the sentiment.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 01, 2011, 08:11:10 AM
I think I am hooked...the trick is getting the wife to watch as well - otherwise I have to catch 20 min here and 20 min there each week. I had the same problem with 'Rome' - but got her hooked.
I've watched half of ep 1 with Fran, just sell it to your wife as a medival soap opera! This story has a lot more to do with the characters and their crazy relationships and political intrigues then it does with knights, sorecery and swordplay. Fran is hooked.
I've been kind of explaining things that the show doesn't make super obvious (about background stuff, non-spoiler) and it seems to be helping Fran.
I really like the character of Tyrion Lannister - I liked him in the books, and like him better in the show. Peter Dinklidge really does him justice.
Just started watching this, I'm through ep 1 and was very confused until I studied the HBO website, which has a detailed tree of all the various houses with each character and their relationships with each other, plus a history of the continent and a cool interactive map. I watched the first episode a second time knowing who everyone was and enjoyed it alot more. I was pissed the first time because I got to the surprise at the end and had no idea who the two people were that Stark's boy was watching. It was much more effective when I knew who they were. So now I'm invested since I spent about 45 minutes poring over the HBO website, and I'm really looking forwward to watching the next two episodes tonight.
Yeah that's one issue with the change in medium (book to TV), as I said above I've been giving Fran a lot of background info and it's greatly increasing her enjoyment. It's almost like you need to have a cliff's notes version of the books to *really* understand the show.
Yes exactly my experience. I really liked my second viewing, especially catching little bits of throwaway dialogue that only those who knew who the characters were could possibly understand.
Wow I am really getting more excited every episode for this series. I was hesitant about the first few because I was afraid they were not going to do the books justice, but boy was I wrong.
The characters I like the best in the book, Aria, Tyrion, Jon Snow, are all my favorites in the show. In a book with so many characters I was worried they wouldn't be able to give them enough time. Again I was very wrong. The casting so far has been out of this world.
This has definitely become my favorite show I have seen for a very long time. It's the first time I have found myself anticipating the next episode all week for the first time since... Oh forgot about The Walking Dead... well for a long time other then TWD. (and I still feel cheated that TWD was only 6 episodes for the first season!)
Is episode 3 out yet? Haven't heard anything.
King
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 04, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Is episode 3 out yet? Haven't heard anything.
King
Yup, every Sunday.
Quote from: billybob476 on May 04, 2011, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on May 04, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Is episode 3 out yet? Haven't heard anything.
King
Yup, every Sunday.
Ok, I'm going to write that down then. Thanks :)
King
When is the next book being released? Anyone know?
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 04, 2011, 11:50:21 AM
When is the next book being released? Anyone know?
July 12 - I should Google before posting....
Still watching, and enjoying it. :)
Holy CRAP; this show is GREAT!!!
I've never been a big fan of fantasy; I've always been more into sci-fi. But this stuff is incredible!
The world, history, and mythology are so rich and interesting... The characters are well fleshed-out, with all of the strengths, flaws, (some of which are VERY ugly flaws) and quirks of real people.
And I just realized something while watching the opening credits: Each of the leading Houses/Powers has a totem animal: Stag for the ruling family at King's Landing, Wolf for the Starks at Winterfell, and so on. In episode one, [spoiler] Lord Stark and his party come across the corpses of a stag and a dire-wolf, which have killed each other. At first, I thought it was just a plot-device to introduce the wolf-cubs, but now, I realize that it was expertly carried out foreshadowing. [/spoiler]
I think this show has me hooked. :)
Quote from: wraith1701 on May 05, 2011, 03:34:26 PM
Holy CRAP; this show is GREAT!!!
I've never been a big fan of fantasy; I've always been more into sci-fi. But this stuff is incredible!
The world, history, and mythology are so rich and interesting... The characters are well fleshed-out, with all of the strengths, flaws, (some of which are VERY ugly flaws) and quirks of real people.
And I just realized something while watching the opening credits: Each of the leading Houses/Powers has a totem animal: Stag for the ruling family at King's Landing, Wolf for the Starks at Winterfell, and so on. In episode one, [spoiler] Lord Stark and his party come across the corpses of a stag and a dire-wolf, which have killed each other. At first, I thought it was just a plot-device to introduce the wolf-cubs, but now, I realize that it was expertly carried out foreshadowing. [/spoiler]
I think this show has me hooked. :)
Check out the big brain on brad! Good catch there man! You'll see alot more in the future and even some that have slipped by in the recent stuff. This is multi layered television watching.
LOL thanks man! JULES WINFIELD FOR THE WIN LOL!
Yeah; it looks like a lot of thought went into the creation of this show. I'm pretty excited. My only issue now is that I'm itching to check out the book series, but I don't want to spoil the show. :)
Quote from: wraith1701 on May 05, 2011, 04:25:26 PM
LOL thanks man! JULES WINFIELD FOR THE WIN LOL!
Yeah; it looks like a lot of thought went into the creation of this show. I'm pretty excited. My only issue now is that I'm itching to check out the book series, but I don't want to spoil the show. :)
The first book is the first season, but the book has more meat. You are safe to start it now.
Cool, thanks! I'm going to check Half-Priced books this evening. And if it's sold out there, I'll make a run for the Borders. :)
Wow!
I've just watched episode 1 (while working...). Quite a lot to digest in this. Sean Bean is excellent in anything with a sword and I hadn't realised we had a few other recognisible British actors in there too. I'm not wholly happy with all of the 'HBO content', it seems a little unnecessary to me, but overall I'm pretty on-board with the series - enough to watch the next one tonight, anyway.
(This played a few weeks ago, I just hadn't got round to it yet)
Wow another great episode this week. We finally see The Mount... and what an entrance! Sam makes his entrance, again portrayed fantastically.
I gotta say it again, what a great job they did casting this show! Each introduced character is making me clap.
I have loved the Lord of the Rings books since I was a kid and the movies when they came out. It has been my favorite fantasy movie/show since it came out.
I think that this is surpassing it. I have pretty much lost all the fears I had about the portrayal of the book and have completely embraced it.
Now the fun is gonna really start!!! Whoot!
Wrong thread there Sheppard? ;)
Quote from: billybob476 on May 17, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Wrong thread there Sheppard? ;)
I honestly don't know what just happened there. I thought I clicked on the Fringe link. Oh well I fixed it.
No problem!
I'm two episodes behind in GoT right now, gotta get caught up!
I still haven't watch it yet so I'm even farther behind.
Quote from: Sheppard on May 17, 2011, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on May 17, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Wrong thread there Sheppard? ;)
I honestly don't know what just happened there. I thought I clicked on the Fringe link. Oh well I fixed it.
I've noticed some weird things going on with messages on these boards. Like threads are linked somehow behind the scenes when they shouldn't be. The only reason I've noticed this is because I always use the "show new replies to your threads" and "show unread posts since last visit" links, and there are times when I look at one thread and it comes up that I've viewed others that I never did. For example, when I read this thread, the Fringe thread now comes up as having been looked at even though there are new posts there I haven't viewed yet. Strange.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 17, 2011, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: Sheppard on May 17, 2011, 09:43:49 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on May 17, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
Wrong thread there Sheppard? ;)
I honestly don't know what just happened there. I thought I clicked on the Fringe link. Oh well I fixed it.
I've noticed some weird things going on with messages on these boards. Like threads are linked somehow behind the scenes when they shouldn't be. The only reason I've noticed this is because I always use the "show new replies to your threads" and "show unread posts since last visit" links, and there are times when I look at one thread and it comes up that I've viewed others that I never did. For example, when I read this thread, the Fringe thread now comes up as having been looked at even though there are new posts there I haven't viewed yet. Strange.
Well I could have sworn I clicked the Fringe one, but I know I could have made a mistake just the same. But it's all good now so no biggie.
Another thing I was wondering at the start of the series was how they were going to protray "the Eyrie". Wow I think they did a great job!!! The entire trip to "The Vale" was pretty much how I imagined it.
Oh and if you've watched it to this point you probably have already guessed... it's about to get nuts!!!
They definitely shortened the trip to the Eyrie (or Aerie or however it's spelled) but of course that is an understandable change based on the medium.
Loved the end of this weeks episode. I'm looking forward to this picking up speed, it's been a bit ponderous but I understand there's tons of background and exposition to cover.
As duffster said above, things are about to hit the fan. I just said the same thing to a coworker.
Yea, if I remember right the Eyrie was on top of a mountain so high it took a couple of days to climb it. I wish they had made it look a bit higher in the air, but I the jail cell was exactly how I pictured it. What a twisted and sadistic way to have someone locked up!
The jail cell was spot on! Fran shuddered when they revealed its 'special feature' :)
They certainly pull no punches and the show lets us know early on (in the pilot no less) that no one is safe. I'm pretty concerned considering how much they've made me feel and care for these characters, seeing them in peril evokes a palpable sense of dread and unease. Not sure I can take it.
I'm going to have to wait to see this weeks episode (not sure what nuber we're on - or you for that matter). I normally put it on during my working day at home on Friday but given that I'll have an unwell 11 year old around tomorrow, I don't think Game of Thrones will be suitable viewing material.
(I think we're at episode 5 which Wiki says is on par with the US schedule)
You know, I'll be totally honest. I've never read the books (but actually just started), and got the first 3 episodes from HBO on demand. After the first episode, I wasn't very convinced. The story was great, but I was a little put off by the insane amount of gratuitous nudity and sex that quite honestly didn't contribute one bit to the story. I thought this was more like Cinemax After Dark! But, I pushed past those and watched the 2nd and 3rd episodes and those useless scenes began to dissapate and now there's really none. And I'm glad I did because this is quite the story! I'm hooked now. I love the characters and the plots, and sub-plots. And from what I've read so far in the book, it's pretty close to the original story.
So now I've got my weekends set: Fridays is Camelot on Starz, and Sundays is Game of Thrones. Awesome fantasy/adventure start and finish to the weekend!!! :)
The thing I find funny is some people are saying the HBO is overplaying the whole gratuitous sex and nudity stuff. Personally I think they are pretty much equal to the amount in the books.
I am quite enjoying every gratuitous moment; fantastically attractive actors and actresses in this show. But it's certainly not for everyone.
I haven't caught this week's episode yet, but the sex and violence isn't bugging me. What's kind of bugging me is this series seems just more like a drama that a high fantasy type of epic story. Who's sleeping with who, who is betraying who, who is killing who, who had a kid with who. If you took away the swords, armor, horses, this could be a soap opera. I'm guessing and hoping that changes at some point. I find the characters interesting, but they do an awful amount of talking and love making. I want some action & magic!
Quote from: billybob476 on May 19, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
The thing I find funny is some people are saying the HBO is overplaying the whole gratuitous sex and nudity stuff. Personally I think they are pretty much equal to the amount in the books.
Never said that it wasn't in the book. I haven't gotten to any of those parts yet if they are in the book. My point is, what purpose does it serve in the grand scheme of the story. I understand inuendo, but showing a sex scene (or writing a sex scene) just for the sake of having one...useless in my opinion.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 19, 2011, 08:23:22 AM
I am quite enjoying every gratuitous moment; fantastically attractive actors and actresses in this show. But it's certainly not for everyone.
Joby, at the risk of starting a flame war, why do you enjoy the sex scenes? Honestly, other than the over hormone driven male labido, what purpose could they possibly serve to the plot?
Quote from: Rico on May 19, 2011, 08:53:26 AM
I haven't caught this week's episode yet, but the sex and violence isn't bugging me. What's kind of bugging me is this series seems just more like a drama that a high fantasy type of epic story. Who's sleeping with who, who is betraying who, who is killing who, who had a kid with who. If you took away the swords, armor, horses, this could be a soap opera. I'm guessing and hoping that changes at some point. I find the characters interesting, but they do an awful amount of talking and love making. I want some action & magic!
Agreed. I think they may bring that stuff on though, from some of the suggestions we hear in the dialog.
I'm with QuadShot in that my assessment of the show pretty much matches his but I'm with Rico too in that, nagging at the back of my mind, is a desire to see someone go to war or have a dual or do something[\i] other than scheme, plot, talk and enjoy each others company.
Do they even have magic in this world? (I know we've seen some unexplainable stuff...but it hasn't been explained yet!)
Just you guys wait. The end of the season should be VERY interesting...
END of the season?! So, we have the Days Of Our Lives soap dish until then? I honestly like the show, but I do wish there was more...Magic, swords...I have a feeling though...there be DRAGONS!
No, as of this week's episode the crap should begin to hit the fan. Fear not!
:) Lovin' the poop in the rotary ocilator!
Quote from: QuadShot on May 19, 2011, 09:02:29 AM
Joby, at the risk of starting a flame war, why do you enjoy the sex scenes? Honestly, other than the over hormone driven male labido, what purpose could they possibly serve to the plot?
Had to wonder at this question a little bit, for several reasons. Mostly because I'd hope I don't have the reputation around here of not being able to answer a direct question without getting into a flame war.
But as for the answer, I just can't remember any sex/nude scenes in the show that
didn't serve the plot in some way. The scenes early where Daenerys is forced to show her nude body, serve to show what a sick scumbag her brother is, and the rough sex she has with Conan later provides some important background to illustrate her character arc, as she grows from a subservient victim to a woman of power and gravitas. The sex scene in the bath with the prostitute that was hired to train Daenerys was equally important for background and character development. Honestly, I'm hard pressed to think of a sexualized scene that struck me as out of place or unneccessary.
Another reason I enjoy the sex in this show is that I believe the fantasy genre on television as well as in the movies is long overdue for a serious take that doesn't shy away from adult themes and human (and inhuman even) sexuality. I can only think of a few movies that didn't treat the genre like nobody ever had sex or was naked under their armor. Excalibur and Conan come to mind. I can't think of ANYTHING on television that ever did this. It brings a gritty realism that adds to the suspension of disbelief when we see magic, dragons, worgs, wraiths, or whatever else we're in store for here.
Finally, as I said before, I'm not ashamed to admit that I find the actors and actresses in this show very attractive and love seeing their nude bodies. Sue me. ;) There's alot of reasons why this show is not appropriate for the traditional audience of younger viewers that might be attracted to fantasy shows, the sex and nudity is just one of them.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 19, 2011, 11:08:40 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on May 19, 2011, 09:02:29 AM
Joby, at the risk of starting a flame war, why do you enjoy the sex scenes? Honestly, other than the over hormone driven male labido, what purpose could they possibly serve to the plot?
Had to wonder at this question a little bit, for several reasons. Mostly because I'd hope I don't have the reputation around here of not being able to answer a direct question without getting into a flame war.
But as for the answer, I just can't remember any sex/nude scenes in the show that didn't serve the plot in some way. The scenes early where Daenerys is forced to show her nude body, serve to show what a sick scumbag her brother is, and the rough sex she has with Conan later provides some important background to illustrate her character arc, as she grows from a subservient victim to a woman of power and gravitas. The sex scene in the bath with the prostitute that was hired to train Daenerys was equally important for background and character development. Honestly, I'm hard pressed to think of a sexualized scene that struck me as out of place or unneccessary.
Another reason I enjoy the sex in this show is that I believe the fantasy genre on television as well as in the movies is long overdue for a serious take that doesn't shy away from adult themes and human (and inhuman even) sexuality. I can only think of a few movies that didn't treat the genre like nobody ever had sex or was naked under their armor. Excalibur and Conan come to mind. I can't think of ANYTHING on television that ever did this. It brings a gritty realism that adds to the suspension of disbelief when we see magic, dragons, worgs, wraiths, or whatever else we're in store for here.
Finally, as I said before, I'm not ashamed to admit that I find the actors and actresses in this show very attractive and love seeing their nude bodies. Sue me. ;) There's alot of reasons why this show is not appropriate for the traditional audience of younger viewers that might be attracted to fantasy shows, the sex and nudity is just one of them.
Well put and I have to agree.
Thanks Joe.
I have to say though, that the scene in the latest episode where Cate's sister was seen breast feeding her son that looked at least ten years old was extremely disturbing. It took me out of the scene because I couldn't help but wonder how they accomplished filming that. Fake boobies?
Thanks for your honesty Joby, and I appreciate your taste in story, but I just think that we can have great sci-fi and fantasy without that stuff being thrown in our face.
I honestly apologize if I may have insinuated that you have a rep for flame wars. If anything, you're one of the ones here that traditionally calm others down! :)
I'm not a prude by any means, but I just don't think all of that complete nudity and sex serve real purpose. I think it's possible to convey the same background and character development in other ways. To me (and this is only my opinion), resorting to this sort of device is an indication of lazy writing. "Hmm, how can I convey what a creep this guy is? Oh I know, let's have him sex it up with a whore". I really like this story so far, I think it's great, but take a look at LOTR. We quickly understand what a jerk Grima Wormtongue is without seeing him have sex with a prostitute. Or, in Harry Potter, what a complete creep Malfoy is without seeing him have sex with his sister. I'm just saying.
I'm not saying that the total lack of nudity or (at least) sexual innuendo is called for, but not so much graphic stuff.
This is what I LOVE about this forum. We can chat, disagree, even bicker a bit, but still LOVE each other! :) You guys rock.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on May 19, 2011, 12:27:38 PM
Thanks Joe.
I have to say though, that the scene in the latest episode where Cate's sister was seen breast feeding her son that looked at least ten years old was extremely disturbing. It took me out of the scene because I couldn't help but wonder how they accomplished filming that. Fake boobies?
Oh my GOSH! I know!! EWWW! And yes, I PRAY those were fake...If not, that poor kid is in for YEARS of therapy! :)
Yeah I was wondering if they were actually going to do that. Even in the book I found that pretty off putting :)
There must be some kind of child labour law that wouldn't allow it to be real.
Quote from: QuadShot on May 19, 2011, 12:35:40 PM
Thanks for your honesty Joby, and I appreciate your taste in story, but I just think that we can have great sci-fi and fantasy without that stuff being thrown in our face.
I honestly apologize if I may have insinuated that you have a rep for flame wars. If anything, you're one of the ones here that traditionally calm others down! :)
I'm not a prude by any means, but I just don't think all of that complete nudity and sex serve real purpose. I think it's possible to convey the same background and character development in other ways. To me (and this is only my opinion), resorting to this sort of device is an indication of lazy writing. "Hmm, how can I convey what a creep this guy is? Oh I know, let's have him sex it up with a whore". I really like this story so far, I think it's great, but take a look at LOTR. We quickly understand what a jerk Grima Wormtongue is without seeing him have sex with a prostitute. Or, in Harry Potter, what a complete creep Malfoy is without seeing him have sex with his sister. I'm just saying.
I'm not saying that the total lack of nudity or (at least) sexual innuendo is called for, but not so much graphic stuff.
This is what I LOVE about this forum. We can chat, disagree, even bicker a bit, but still LOVE each other! :) You guys rock.
I get what you're saying about the sex, but if it wasn't there, it wouldn't be a game of thrones. Without spoiling anything, it's hard to talk about, but sex is very important to this world. If you are expecting to see magic, prepare for a very very long wait. There are hints of magic and magical things, but this isn't a story where spells are cast and magic is done.
It's about the politics of succession in a world where their dark times are right around the corner.
I too was taken by the breastfeeding, but that's the best part of it! Not only were we in shock, the people in the story were in shock. Even in a world where there are so many bastards being had to where they are given regional surnames, some things cross the line.
I think that this is a great adaptation of the book, but if you are looking for sword and sorcery, you've probably picked the wrong series. The Game of Thrones is a story of politics, betrayals, death, sex, blood, and war. Many of the things that you'd might want to see, you don't see.
One of the key magical things in the story hasn't even really been mentioned in the show. Some people in the story have magical swords similar to classic D&D or the Heron marked blades in Wheel of time. They are more plus to hit weapons as opposed to glowing or flaming weapons. People that use magic in a game of thrones are like people in our world that work with anti-matter. Sure they exist, but they are so rare that you could go your entire life without meeting one.
Also, to hit on one of your point. Having sex with a whore doesn't make you a creep in this world. It's your actions as a person that decides that. I think that the sex is there to take you out of your comfort zone and tell you this this is not the world that you know. The rules of society are not the same as the ones that we have.
When I see the Imp, I see a man that has taken his lot in life and chose to not let it define him. Sure he's sleeping with whores, but do you really think that the noble women are ready to jump into his bed?
I think that we also need to consider that in the first two episodes, we've learned that adultery, rape, and incest are three driving elements within the game of thrones. We've also seen the lengths that some people will go to protect their secrets. These windows are critical parts to telling the greater story.
I know that you might think it could be told without the sex, but when a major part of the story has to deal with the ramifications of sex, it would come off as prude to try to hide those key parts of the story under something less than what was written.
As odd as this will sound coming from me, X, you summed this up very well. Honestly, it makes more sense to me now. I can see where it's coming from and guess that by adding some things that make us shudder a bit, the writer is conveying his point: take them out of their world and drop them into mine.
Great post Chris. Having not read the books myself, it's hard for me to justify some of the more graphic scenes without knowing where it's all going and how it all ties together. One thing for sure, I knew from the very first episode that even though some elements of this show might seem familiar, that I've never seen anything quite like this show before. That's maybe what I like most about it.
Edit to add: I find it very amusing that even after all our disagreements over the years the one subject we both see eye to eye on is "boning on television" ;)
I for one - am not above enjoying a cheap thrill while enjoying the excellent storytelling. ;) Although I can see that this wouldn't be to everyones tastes and sensibilities. That being said, my children will not be watching this one with me!
For the most part the HBO version is staying very true to the earthy nature of the story and of the period (War of the Roses) that it is paralleling (read Stark as York - and Lanister as Lancaster).
The nursing scene was disturbing - but it illustrates how the character has gone off the deep-end in protecting and over-mothering her son.
The wedding night scene was actual portrayed more tenderly in the actual book (although I read this book some time ago - correct me if I am wrong).
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 20, 2011, 04:58:41 AM
The wedding night scene was actual portrayed more tenderly in the actual book (although I read this book some time ago - correct me if I am wrong).
No you're exactly right, I had told Fran about that scene in the book and after we saw it in the show she looked at me a bit funny. It was definitely extended in the book and made you realize Drogo is a bit more complex then he had been portrayed up to that point.
Is was really worried about how they were going to do this series when I first heard about it. I was worried they would rush through all the back stories and try and make it all action etc. They fact they have spent time developing these characters has made me very happy. There is so much depth to these books I thought they would have a hard time conveying the story. In fact when I read the books I thought there was absolutely no way they would ever make it a series. I am very happily wrong.
I completely agree with X and his assessment. This is not a very nice world, it's harsh and tough and everyone is plotting. I think they have done a good job setting up how fragile the peace really is, and I really hasn't struck me that they have shown anything I would consider fluff or not important. I loved the dialogue between the King and Queen, and also between Littlefinger and Varys. All these little things I believe they are doing right. This is certainly some of the best television I have ever seen.
Just finished watching the most recent episode. While there are things I like about this series, I'm still a bit on the fence. I'm fine with the sex and violence because I think it's showing how brutal this world is. But for me at least, I'm not quite sure that makes it the most entertaining type of thing to watch. I'm a bit more old school and prefer a few more people who actually seem to have some morality. So far the vast majority of these people I find myself not only not caring for, but actively wanting to pick up one of my swords and chop them down. Besides Ned Stark and maybe the Imp, and of course some of the kids and Ned's bastard son, the rest seem to be very bad people. And I mean very bad. I plan on hanging in there for the season, but this ultimately might not really be my cup of tea - or maybe ale in this case.
Quote from: Rico on May 21, 2011, 06:30:10 PM
Just finished watching the most recent episode. While there are things I like about this series, I'm still a bit on the fence. I'm fine with the sex and violence because I think it's showing how brutal this world is. But for me at least, I'm not quite sure that makes it the most entertaining type of thing to watch. I'm a bit more old school and prefer a few more people who actually seem to have some morality. So far the vast majority of these people I find myself not only not caring for, but actively wanting to pick up one of my swords and chop them down. Besides Ned Stark and maybe the Imp, and of course some of the kids and Ned's bastard son, the rest seem to be very bad people. And I mean very bad. I plan on hanging in there for the season, but this ultimately might not really be my cup of tea - or maybe ale in this case.
There are really no good or bad guys in this series. Some people you think are good turn out to be bad and some people that you know are bad turn and do these really "good" things. This is a world painted in shades of grey and takes a more realistic approach to the people of the story in the terms of their characters. There aren't any white knights. Even Ned, who I love, starts the series off with that thing he does when the guy he does it to only had good intentions and was just scared.
I pretty much agree. But again, it's maybe just not the type of "entertainment" I prefer.
Wow...ok, so I'm still watching, and am glad I am. This show is getting pretty good and admittedly it is a bit of a soap opera type, but still pretty cool. I have the HBOGO app on my iPad and watched the early premiere of next weeks episode. OH MY GOSH! Next weeks going to blow you away. Well, except for those who read the book. Then you already know what's coming. I'm liking this more and more!
Quote from: QuadShot on May 23, 2011, 01:06:24 PM
Wow...ok, so I'm still watching, and am glad I am. This show is getting pretty good and admittedly it is a bit of a soap opera type, but still pretty cool. I have the HBOGO app on my iPad and watched the early premiere of next weeks episode. OH MY GOSH! Next weeks going to blow you away. Well, except for those who read the book. Then you already know what's coming. I'm liking this more and more!
I don't have HBOGo to get the preview, but I think that I know what you're talking about. See what I mean about not being able to tell someone how good this story is without spoiling things?
Oh yeah! Awesome stuff!
I've been watching this in the UK on Wednesday nights on Sky Atlantic. It's on earlier in the week, but Wednesdays is the most convenient...But airing for 1 hour and 15 minutes, it's been irritating me with regards the late hour that it finishes. I have to be up early and couldn't figure out why it ran for so long...
...This week I've watched it tonight and was shocked to see it was on for only an hour. Sure enough, Wednesdays airing is still an hour and a quarter. I kind of feel like I'm being robbed..... Has anyone else noticed this, or do any other shows do it. Is this a method of broadcast in the US?
ori, do they play commercials at all? I've not noticed any difference in the air play time here.
Quote from: QuadShot on May 23, 2011, 01:06:24 PM
Wow...ok, so I'm still watching, and am glad I am. This show is getting pretty good and admittedly it is a bit of a soap opera type, but still pretty cool. I have the HBOGO app on my iPad and watched the early premiere of next weeks episode. OH MY GOSH! Next weeks going to blow you away. Well, except for those who read the book. Then you already know what's coming. I'm liking this more and more!
Yes another great reason to have an iPad! HBO Go is the shiznit.
Quote from: QuadShot on May 23, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
ori, do they play commercials at all? I've not noticed any difference in the air play time here.
It's got to be the commercial breaks making it longer. Can't explain any other way it would be 15 minutes longer on Weds compared to Mon for the same episode.
We don't have commercials in our version Ori...strange
It's because Sky are showing it. It's only our BBC channels that don't have ad breaks. We're lucky that Sky hasn't stuck it on it's higher premium movie channels like they did with Clone Wars and that war series (The Pacific I think?)
That explains why it is 1hour 15 minutes on Wednesdays......I wonder if Mondays is some edited down version to fit the ad breaks in and show it in an hour?
Did you Brits watch An Idiot Abroad on Sky? That was maybe the funniest show I've seen in my life.
Yes. Karl Pilkington is hilarious. Even when he's not trying to be. I "obtained" a while back all of the Ricky Gervais podcasts AND all of his old XFM radio show recordings (which is where they all met). They were hilarious. Well worth "seeking out"
The most recent episode was ok, but again I not only don't like several of the characters, I really hate a few of them. Ned Stark and the Imp are still the only guys I'd want to have a pint with. Oh, and Jamie Lannister (wherever he's run off to) deserves to be chewed up by the kids dire wolves. On another note, how many episodes are we getting this season - is it 12?
I sort of agree, but I'm finding that I enjoy hating on some of the characters.
I'm still dreadful of the names, but my favourite person is the Dragon lady with the dragon eggs....
I could of course look the name up. But that may be too much work...and, besides. I'm tired.
ori, her name is Dani. Or, the Kahlisie (sp?)
I just love this show man! The best fantasy on television in the last decade!
Arry Stark is perhaps my favorite character in the entire series. Well her and John Snow ... and Dani.
It just keeps getting better.
Quote from: X on May 25, 2011, 10:37:56 AM
I just love this show man! The best fantasy on television in the last decade!
Arry Stark is perhaps my favorite character in the entire series. Well her and John Snow ... and Dani.
It just keeps getting better.
I'm glad you are liking it. However, I'm wondering if some of that has to do with you having read the books? For me personally, it's fairly ordinary so far. And as far as fantasy, I've seen very little of that.
Yeah, but you just know the Dragon eggs are leading to something. I think a lot of the "good" guys in the series are a bit harsh and drastic at times. Especially when dealing with the peasant folk. But I think this helps in making and introducing us to this world. It is a hard and bleak world. Very different to our own.....I think this is what I love the most.
Quote from: QuadShot on May 25, 2011, 09:53:35 AM
ori, her name is Dani. Or, the Kahlisie (sp?)
Cheers Quad. I would just like to point out that her being one of my favourite characters has nothing what-so-ever to do with her "love scenes".....well, not much, anyway :)
Quote from: Rico on May 25, 2011, 11:56:14 AM
Quote from: X on May 25, 2011, 10:37:56 AM
I just love this show man! The best fantasy on television in the last decade!
Arry Stark is perhaps my favorite character in the entire series. Well her and John Snow ... and Dani.
It just keeps getting better.
I'm glad you are liking it. However, I'm wondering if some of that has to do with you having read the books? For me personally, it's fairly ordinary so far. And as far as fantasy, I've seen very little of that.
What do you mean you're seeing very little of it? Even if you aren't counting the powers that some of the characters are starting to display, the whole world is fantasy. This isn't earth, there are all of the different people and customs. They live in a world of dragons and someone actually has dragon eggs. How could you get more fantasy? What about the Wall? A huge wall of Ice thousands of feet high to mark the border.
It's not people tossing around magic spells like they are candy on Halloween, but everywhere you look there are subtle hints of the fantastical world this is. Ravens that deliver messages to any place in the kingdom.
I could see where you might think my knowledge of the story might skew my tastes, but there are many people here that haven't read the story and are digging it as much as I am. Maybe even more because I know when some of the things are going to happen and I love the visuals, but I don't get to witness for the first time some of the things that happen to the characters. Take last episode for example. I knew that was going to happen, so I wasn't really shocked, but I enjoyed it. I'm thinking that others might have gotten far more out of it and really got a taste of how fragile that life is in this world.
Reading the books may have something to do with it Rico. But honestly the books pretty much just delve deeper into the characters and history and such. They are doing a good job of showing the important stuff.
This is more "Epic" Fantasy then "High" Fantasy. This is why I find the entire thing so appealing. Fantasy doesn't have to be all magic, and faeries and elves and stuff. There is some magic in the world, and we will see more of it more as the story goes on.
I love big thick books and stories with tons of character development. Not everyones cup of tea. I totally agree with X though, the best Fantasy series I have ever seen. I am going one further though and saying TV or Movies.
Again, glad you guys are enjoying it. I'm just having a lot of trouble with the characters, their motivations, etc. I'm guessing I would probably enjoy the books more. Maybe I'll try and read some between seasons and see if that helps.
Quote from: Duffster on May 25, 2011, 12:51:07 PM
Reading the books may have something to do with it Rico. But honestly the books pretty much just delve deeper into the characters and history and such. They are doing a good job of showing the important stuff.
This is more "Epic" Fantasy then "High" Fantasy. This is why I find the entire thing so appealing. Fantasy doesn't have to be all magic, and faeries and elves and stuff. There is some magic in the world, and we will see more of it more as the story goes on.
I love big thick books and stories with tons of character development. Not everyones cup of tea. I totally agree with X though, the best Fantasy series I have ever seen. I am going one further though and saying TV or Movies.
I can second that. I think it's better than LOTR for me because the people are multidimensional.
Rico, who's motivations are you having trouble with? I know that there's more to it in the books, but I think the show has given a clear picture of how each of the main characters are motivated.
Again, they pack a lot of details about the connections of the families and why the events are as they are. More times than not, if you look a few scenes ahead of ones where you have questions about motivations, they foreshadow some of the motivations happening. Some of the important connections could be looked over if you are fully paying attention to the screen. I have to shut off all distractions when I watch it because so many subtle things can be missed.
I'm enjoying the crap out of the series. It actually inspired me to start the book series. I'm currently about 1/2 done with the second book, A Clash Of Kings.
The only drawback to the books is that it's lessened my enjoyment of the TV show, but just a little bit.
Quote from: wraith1701 on May 25, 2011, 06:30:04 PM
I'm enjoying the crap out of the series. It actually inspired me to start the book series. I'm currently about 1/2 done with the second book, A Clash Of Kings.
The only drawback to the books is that it's lessened my enjoyment of the TV show, but just a little bit.
I can see that. You know what's coming next and you have in your mind how it should look.
Question about John Snow - Spoiler Alert!!
[spoiler]I have only read the first book. But I am thinking that Jon Snow is actually the son of Ned Stark's sister and the guy who was the son of the Mad King. Is this thought supported or shut down in later books?[/spoiler]
Who is Greyjoy, why is he given so much trust by the Ned and the rest of the Starks when it seems clear he hates them all? Why does he hate them so?
So who wasn't [spoiler]surprised by the ending of episode 6? That character hadn't done much of anything, just whining about his kingdom. "The Dragon". Righttttt
At least he got his golden crown x_x.[/spoiler]
King
I likes me a bit of the violence in TV shows....and that certainly fit the bill. [spoiler]A very suitable conclusion to the episode.
Although, I'm surprised he was disposed of so early on. I assumed he was going to be the main cowardly villian of the story[/spoiler]
joby and brom
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Jon Snow is Neds bastard son at least from what I remember. all the northern bastards have the last name of Snow. Every region of the kingdoms has their bastards names differently.
Greyjoy is a basicly a prisoner of war. In this society the offspring of lords and such are surrendered as prisoners of honor to other lords when they are defeated. You will.find out much more about the Greyjoys as the story proceeds. As it stands Greyjoy hates the Stadia because they defeated his family and he is.held as a honorable prisoner by the Starks.
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Quote from: X on May 25, 2011, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: wraith1701 on May 25, 2011, 06:30:04 PM
I'm enjoying the crap out of the series. It actually inspired me to start the book series. I'm currently about 1/2 done with the second book, A Clash Of Kings.
The only drawback to the books is that it's lessened my enjoyment of the TV show, but just a little bit.
I can see that. You know what's coming next and you have in your mind how it should look.
Exactly. What's really weird is that even though I saw the characters in the TV show before I started the books, whenever I read Ned Stark I envision Liam Neeson.
Another weird thing: I've noticed that many elements of book 2 have already been introduced in season 1 of the TV show. Makes me wonder if other seemingly inconsequential characters & scenes will turn out to be significant later on.
I'm looking forward to finding out. :)
Quote from: Duffster on May 26, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
joby and brom
[spoiler]
Jon Snow is Neds bastard son at least from what I remember. all the northern bastards have the last name of Snow. Every region of the kingdoms has their bastards names differently.
Greyjoy is a basicly a prisoner of war. In this society the offspring of lords and such are surrendered as prisoners of honor to other lords when they are defeated. You will.find out much more about the Greyjoys as the story proceeds. As it stands Greyjoy hates the Stadia because they defeated his family and he is.held as a honorable prisoner by the Starks.
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I'm going to disagree with Duffster here:
[spoiler] We don't know who john is. What we do know is that 1) Ned has never called John his son. He has called him a Stark and of his blood, but never his son. 2) If John was someone else's son it might make him an heir to the throne and we all heard how even the known infant heir was killed in the seizing of power and that no one with the Dragon's blood could live in Robert's court. 3) Ned promises to tell John about his mother after he returns from taking the black, which would make you no longer an heir to anything.
Everyone in the world assumes that John is Ned's bastard, but they also assume that Joffrey is Robert's son. Take it for what you will and there are more than a few people with ideas on John's heritage. [/spoiler]
So about the Greyjoy's, they supported the Targaerins (I know that's spelled wrong) during the war with the mad king and were defeated by the Starks, and the son was captured as a boy and raised by the Starks as what, a servant? Slave? Doesn't seem like a very smart policy but maybe the most humane solution as opposed to killing or abandoning young children.
Actually the Greyjoys had there own rebellion against the Iron Throne. After that rebellion was defeated he was sent to the Starks. Its also insurance that the Greyjoys wont take revenge, more of a hostage thing. Also the Starks treated him pretty well, since he was still from a Noble family. He was a ward of Eddard Stark, and educated along with his children. Not a slave but more like a prisoner with benefits, honor bound to not try and escape.
Watched the new episode from Sunday, and again....
[spoiler]When is Ned Stark going to learn? I'm guessing he will get that punk Lannister kid off the throne soon, but geez. I know if I was a guard for Ned I'd be saying goodbye to my loved ones about now. I kept reading there is going to be some justice and payback at some point soon in all this. I certainly hope so, because I'm getting kind of tired of anyone with any real character getting the shaft all the time. At this point, I'm almost rooting for the Jason Mamoa Targarian dude to sail over and take control. Oh, and the poisoned wine guy being dragged naked in the streets - not really needed. Yeah, I get it, this is a rough world.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
Watched the new episode from Sunday, and again....
[spoiler]When is Ned Stark going to learn? I'm guessing he will get that punk Lannister kid off the throne soon, but geez. I know if I was a guard for Ned I'd be saying goodbye to my loved ones about now. I kept reading there is going to be some justice and payback at some point soon in all this. I certainly hope so, because I'm getting kind of tired of anyone with any real character getting the shaft all the time. At this point, I'm almost rooting for the Jason Mamoa Targarian dude to sail over and take control. Oh, and the poisoned wine guy being dragged naked in the streets - not really needed. Yeah, I get it, this is a rough world.[/spoiler]
Yeah, stakes are starting to be raised in the game of thrones.
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
[spoiler] Oh, and the poisoned wine guy being dragged naked in the streets - not really needed. Yeah, I get it, this is a rough world.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]What about that scene was not needed? I mean in terms of the story, we had whores going at it while Littlefinger waxed poetic and they were on screen for FAR longer than the naked dude. Content wise, I think seeing Dothraki justice in action was needed. I mean we've seen so many naked women in this show, it was bound to happen that we saw penis sooner or later.[/spoiler]
Quote from: X on May 31, 2011, 08:57:26 AM
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
[spoiler] Oh, and the poisoned wine guy being dragged naked in the streets - not really needed. Yeah, I get it, this is a rough world.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]What about that scene was not needed? I mean in terms of the story, we had whores going at it while Littlefinger waxed poetic and they were on screen for FAR longer than the naked dude. Content wise, I think seeing Dothraki justice in action was needed. I mean we've seen so many naked women in this show, it was bound to happen that we saw penis sooner or later.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]The lesbian scene you referred to was the first one that made me wince in the context of the debate that was going on here last week about gratuitous sex scenes. While I get that Littlefinger is a pimp, and it illustrated his role and personailty to show that going on, it certainly didn't need to be so graphic. Not that I minded, but it was more that once again I was taken out of the moment because of what was shown on screen, and might have been more effective were it to have been implied instead. Also I couldn't help but picture some of the posters here watching through splayed fingers covering their eyes.[/spoiler]
My point with a few things they are showing is ok, we get it already. Trust me, it doesn't really bother me except that it's now becoming one of the issues and things people talk about with regards to this show. They aren't talking so much about the story, characters, etc. as there are about some of the sex, nudity and violence. And that's when it begins to detract from the story. In a book, it isn't the same thing. So, whether it serves the story or type of character, for me at least I'm kind of frankly bored by it. Give me some real, deep emotional character stuff over a guy (or girls) junk any day of the week.
P.S. And before you respond Chris, just look over the posts here in this thread and see how many mention what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 10:14:03 AM
My point with a few things they are showing is ok, we get it already. Trust me, it doesn't really bother me except that it's now becoming one of the issues and things people talk about with regards to this show. They aren't talking so much about the story, characters, etc. as there are about some of the sex, nudity and violence. And that's when it begins to detract from the story. In a book, it isn't the same thing. So, whether it serves the story or type of character, for me at least I'm kind of frankly bored by it. Give me some real, deep emotional character stuff over a guy (or girls) junk any day of the week.
P.S. And before you respond Chris, just look over the posts here in this thread and see how many mention what I'm talking about.
Believe me, I get what you're saying, but...
[spoiler] I think the only thing to take me out of the story so far was the breast milk scene because I wondered how the hell they pulled that off. I mean some of this stuff is over the top, but far more tame than it could be.
Maybe it's because I've read the books and seen Spartacus to know what can be shown on Pay TV, but for me, what people talk about doesn't make it a better or worse show for me. If the sex is a big thing for some and that's what causes their talking points, that doesn't mean the show isn't working. It's also not like a majority of the US isn't kind of prude. I mean we can see boob for less than a second on national TV and have a debate about it for over a year. That's just one of the talking points people like to focus on.
The other thing is that there are a lot of people talking about the story here, but for those people that have read the books, it's hard as hell to talk about it without making sure we aren't revealing something that has yet to happen.
I mean really really hard to skirt the line of what you know from the books and what you expect to see on the TV.
As for deep emotional stuff, I was could not take my eyes off of Littlefinger this week. He sold a bill of goods that made you really understand his motivations. He loved a woman not because she was beautiful, but because she was her. He almost died trying to have her and she saved him, but tore his heart out by marrying the bother of the guy, another man she didn't love.
He pretty much told us that there was no way in hell that he would help Ned and it wasn't because he was a "bad guy" it was because he still hurt after almost dying for a woman that he loved and would only see him as a little brother.
Maybe the women in the scene were a red herring to distract from the foreshadowing? I don't know, but while watching that scene, I felt more like Littlefinger in regards to the women. Sure they were there, but they were hardly a distraction to what was going on. At least for me. I was so caught up with how Littlefinger's motivations dominated the scene that the women sort of became back ground noise. It wasn't until my daughter started heading into the room to give me a good night kiss that I paid attention to what was being shown and quickly hit pause then guide button to censor the screen.
PS. As you requested, I did go back and look at this thread and found that a huge majority of the talk is about the story with a few mentioning here and there about the sex and one little debate on it when it was directly brought up. More often than not people are talking about how they are enjoying the story.[/spoiler]
I still say the "R" rating factor stuff is doing more harm than good to the story. I do plan on seeing the season through, but ultimately this series just might not be for me. Maybe watching so much Trek over the years has made me more of an optimist and I think most people try to do good most of the time. I have a pretty hard time with a few things in this story so far. Lets just say there are two things I'm a bit sensitive to (and it isn't the T&A or violence). It's things involving kids and pets. Watching bad things happen to them isn't very entertaining for me.
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 03:21:14 PM
I still say the "R" rating factor stuff is doing more harm than good to the story. I do plan on seeing the season through, but ultimately this series just might not be for me. Maybe watching so much Trek over the years has made me more of an optimist and I think most people try to do good most of the time. I have a pretty hard time with a few things in this story so far. Lets just say there are two things I'm a bit sensitive to (and it isn't the T&A or violence). It's things involving kids and pets. Watching bad things happen to them isn't very entertaining for me.
I know what you mean there and I can't say more because of spoilers, but children and pets are not safe in this world. That's the best warning that I can give. If the show follows the books, there will be a few tests of your sensitivity to the story.
Thanks for the warning Chris. I do appreciate your views on this. Just goes to show that maybe not all stories are for everyone.
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 03:21:14 PM
Lets just say there are two things I'm a bit sensitive to (and it isn't the T&A or violence). It's things involving kids and pets. Watching bad things happen to them isn't very entertaining for me.
I haven't seen the TV series yet (no HBO) but plan to when it comes out on DVD. But I agree with you Rico.. that was another reason why I was turned off by the first book.
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
Thanks for the warning Chris. I do appreciate your views on this. Just goes to show that maybe not all stories are for everyone.
Yeah, there are some really vile things that happen in the books and if you read them, it will stick with you for life. My only hope is that it's so bad that they won't show them on TV.
I could do with out the adult content to be honest. I've got shelves full of fantasy & sci-fi but most of it is "clean" as it were, a lot of it contains gritty violence and raw human emotion but sex tends to be hinted at or flirted with and not full on like Game of Thrones. It did catch me out when I read the books but the plots and twists are just so enthralling I can get past it to enjoy the truly incredible story lines and complex plots.
Odd thing really but a lot of fantasy art uses provocative female images but most books barely touch on anything like what the images are suggesting.
Finally convinced the wife to give these a shot. I am all caught up, so she watched the first 3 episodes last night (I turned in early). She is hooked. Now I just have to get her caught up by Sunday night...
Quote from: X on May 31, 2011, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
Thanks for the warning Chris. I do appreciate your views on this. Just goes to show that maybe not all stories are for everyone.
Yeah, there are some really vile things that happen in the books and if you read them, it will stick with you for life. My only hope is that it's so bad that they won't show them on TV.
This is pushing the borders of what I usually watch...(well, tbh it stepped and ran over, but hey...) so I'm hoping it doesn't go much farther.
I'm enjoying the series, mostly because I think I need this perspective. I'm pretty used to my perspective so this has me looking at things from another angle and in some cases agreeing with it (as far as the situation at hand goes). Deeply intriguing.
King
I'm continuing to stack these up on the DVR but I'm not sure I'll get around to them. As much as anything, I've got too much else to watch at the moment (but I guess that really means that this simply isn't too high on my priority list).
I enjoyed the latest episode. I'm enjoying the series, and look forward to seeing how the rest of the story looks on screen. :)
I have to throw in some criticism, though.
The writers are taking quite a few liberties with the story. That's not my criticism, though. With some plot elements being stretched out over several chapters, (or even spanning more than one book), the writers have to figure out a device to present the information to the viewers in a natural feeling manner. I assume this is the reason for the addition of all-new scenes, the expanding of the role played by certain characters, and the introduction of stuff from later books.
It's hard to deny that some elements are added to the show purely for shock value, and to generate buzz. For example; the scene being played out while Littlefinger gives his history isn't even in the book. Hell; Theon's 'friend' (is her name Roz?) was a much more minor character in the book, getting no more than 1 or 2 casual mentions. Perhaps she plays a major role down the line, but I'm into book 3 now and have yet to see her reappear LOL.
It's like the writers have a set formula they have to follow for each episode:
Story, Story, T&A, Story, Story, Violence, Story, Story, Cliff-Hanger.
I get it; the show has to earn its keep. I guess the writers figure they have to inject certain things to keep the show Top-Of-Mind & keep driving the ratings. I can't help but think they're selling the viewers short, though.
Anyway, criticism aside, I'm enjoying the crap out of the show. Things are only going to get more & more intense. ;)
Quote from: Rico on May 31, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
[spoiler]When is Ned Stark going to learn? I'm guessing he will get that punk Lannister kid off the throne soon, but geez. I know if I was a guard for Ned I'd be saying goodbye to my loved ones about now. I kept reading there is going to be some justice and payback at some point soon in all this. .[/spoiler]
Uhm....... [spoiler] :-X :-\ [/spoiler]
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 03, 2011, 06:43:24 AM
Uhm....... [spoiler] :-X :-\ [/spoiler]
[spoiler] Yeah...I haven't read the books and I'm trying like hell to avoid spoilers but I get a strong feeling that one of the reasons Sean Bean was chosen to star in this season was because his role as Boromir prepared us for seeing him die early on. Just a hunch[/spoiler]
have to say the casting of Tyrion is spot on, he is exactly as I imagined him, likewise Sean Bean as Ned. Not so sure about Catelyn, she is a lot harder dour in this and yet the books have her as more of a beauty
Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on June 03, 2011, 02:48:33 PM
have to say the casting of Tyrion is spot on, he is exactly as I imagined him, likewise Sean Bean as Ned. Not so sure about Catelyn, she is a lot harder dour in this and yet the books have her as more of a beauty
Tyrion actually looks nothing like I imagined, but I think that's because it would be hard to find a dwarf with miss colored eyes, a pig like nose and a mixture of black and blonde hair in his beard.
Quote from: Feathers on June 03, 2011, 03:45:15 AM
I'm continuing to stack these up on the DVR but I'm not sure I'll get around to them. As much as anything, I've got too much else to watch at the moment (but I guess that really means that this simply isn't too high on my priority list).
Pity - I had a question about accents and hoped someone for the UK could help me. I was thinking that the Starks spoke with northern accents, but can't be sure. Whereas they showed folk from Kingslanding to speak with a more southern (UK) accent. Am I off base on this? Thanks
Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on June 03, 2011, 02:48:33 PM
have to say the casting of Tyrion is spot on, he is exactly as I imagined him, likewise Sean Bean as Ned. Not so sure about Catelyn, she is a lot harder dour in this and yet the books have her as more of a beauty
I was thinking that Nicole Kidman would be a good Cerce (sp) Lanister. Tywin Lanister looks good on HBO, but I think he had a shaved head and mutton-chop mustaches in the book.
I'm cool with the look of most characters, but I can't stop thinking Ned should be Liam Neeson. And Renly- The guy playing him seems a bit too insecure & weaselly.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 03, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: Feathers on June 03, 2011, 03:45:15 AM
I'm continuing to stack these up on the DVR but I'm not sure I'll get around to them. As much as anything, I've got too much else to watch at the moment (but I guess that really means that this simply isn't too high on my priority list).
Pity - I had a question about accents and hoped someone for the UK could help me. I was thinking that the Starks spoke with northern accents, but can't be sure. Whereas they showed folk from Kingslanding to speak with a more southern (UK) accent. Am I off base on this? Thanks
As I'm in the UK I can confirm Ned has a Northern accent, but then Sean Bean doesn't do any other, Kings Landing is Southern I suppose but there isn't really a Southern Accent.
I suppose you could break it down into rough medieval groups
Starks - Rough Northerners UK
Lannisters & Kings Landing - "Civilized" European
Dorthraki = Mongol Horde
Greyjoys = Vikings
Dorne = Middle Eastern ish
Braavosi = Mediterranean
Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on June 04, 2011, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 03, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: Feathers on June 03, 2011, 03:45:15 AM
I'm continuing to stack these up on the DVR but I'm not sure I'll get around to them. As much as anything, I've got too much else to watch at the moment (but I guess that really means that this simply isn't too high on my priority list).
Pity - I had a question about accents and hoped someone for the UK could help me. I was thinking that the Starks spoke with northern accents, but can't be sure. Whereas they showed folk from Kingslanding to speak with a more southern (UK) accent. Am I off base on this? Thanks
As I'm in the UK I can confirm Ned has a Northern accent, but then Sean Bean doesn't do any other, Kings Landing is Southern I suppose but there isn't really a Southern Accent.
I suppose you could break it down into rough medieval groups
Starks - Rough Northerners UK
Lannisters & Kings Landing - "Civilized" European
Dorthraki = Mongol Horde
Greyjoys = Vikings
Dorne = Middle Eastern ish
Braavosi = Mediterranean
That sounds spot-on; especially considering lots of the stuff laid out in the books. Particularly with the Greyjoys & what we learn of Theon's family in book 2. And if while were talking books, we have to include
The Summer Isles = Coastal Africa
I was going to list a few of the others but I don't know how to do that spoiler thingy
Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on June 05, 2011, 09:11:41 AM
I was going to list a few of the others but I don't know how to do that spoiler thingy
Gotcha. :)
At the beginning of the text you want to hide behind a spoiler tag, type the word 'spoiler' within opening & closing brackets, like this: [spoiler]
At the end of the piece you want to hide, type the word 'spoiler within opeing & closing brackets, just like before, only now, put a forward-slash (this thing- / ) immediately before the 's' in 'spoiler'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBCode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBCode)
Or even easier for spoilers is just click the little icon that looks like a radioactive symbol and put your spoilers in between the tags. Easy peasy.
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 05, 2011, 05:57:53 PM
At the end of the piece you want to hide, type the word 'spoiler within opeing & closing brackets, just like before, only now, put a back-slash (this thing- / ) immediately before the 's' in 'spoiler'.
Another for my long list of pet peeves: "/" that's a forward slash. "\" is a back slash. ;)
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on June 06, 2011, 07:11:24 AM
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 05, 2011, 05:57:53 PM
At the end of the piece you want to hide, type the word 'spoiler within opeing & closing brackets, just like before, only now, put a back-slash (this thing- / ) immediately before the 's' in 'spoiler'.
Another for my long list of pet peeves: "/" that's a forward slash. "\" is a back slash. ;)
LOL thanks man; I fixed it. :)
right lets give this a go then [spoiler] you shouldn't read spoilers it takes all the fun out of it, shame on you ;-)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Geoff G.o.B on June 06, 2011, 01:53:40 PM
right lets give this a go then [spoiler] you shouldn't read spoilers it takes all the fun out of it, shame on you ;-)[/spoiler]
Hahaha! NICE! :)
What did you guys think of Sunday's episode? As Danny's brother probably thought a few episodes ago, "Things are definitely starting to heat up. " ;)
Even knowing what lies ahead, the episode had me on the edge of my seat.
A question for folks who've read the books: [spoiler] Was it just me, or was some of the Rob & Greatjohn stuff from the second book? I've been reading them back-to-back, and they've sort of blended together into one book for me. [/spoiler]
I can't recall specifics but I'm into the second book now and yes, they are moving some things from the second book into the series.
I think so, but Martin wrote that episode, so I can forgive the changes. I actually like them. Something unexpected and to include MArtin is great.
Re: 2nd book question
[spoiler]That bit where the dire wolf takes off GreatJohn's fingers is in the 1st book. Rob is somewhat shaken by it afterwards - although he doesn't show it to GJ. GJ becomes one of his staunchest supporters after that show of grit.[/spoiler]
Well ...
[spoiler] And now the story begins to start in earnest. All I can say is hang on to your hats. This season will probably also be a good jumping off point for the sensitive and faint of heart. It only gets worse from here. Good story wise, but far worse for the people involved in said story. There's a nice bumper sticker that's out that has to deal with the lateness of the books and the vengeance of Martin on asking about when the next book will be out. As Jar-Jar once said ... "yousa means innocent peoples are gonna die?"[/spoiler]
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 06:38:37 AM
Well ...
[spoiler] And now the story begins to start in earnest. All I can say is hang on to your hats. This season will probably also be a good jumping off point for the sensitive and faint of heart. It only gets worse from here. Good story wise, but far worse for the people involved in said story. There's a nice bumper sticker that's out that has to deal with the lateness of the books and the vengeance of Martin on asking about when the next book will be out. As Jar-Jar once said ... "yousa means innocent peoples are gonna die?"[/spoiler]
All I have to say after last nights episode is [spoiler]WHAT IN THE WORLD??!!! The whole time Ned was on the chopping block I was in disbelief. I thought he was the main character of the story? I hate that little in-bred "king" and want to see him really messed up. Loved the ending though when Rob captured that incestous pretty boy.[/spoiler] All in all...loving the show!
Haven't seen it - yet. Please - just tell me there's finally some payback coming!
Quote from: Rico on June 13, 2011, 08:32:05 AM
Haven't seen it - yet. Please - just tell me there's finally some payback coming!
Depends what you mean by payback.
Quote from: QuadShot on June 13, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 06:38:37 AM
Well ...
[spoiler] And now the story begins to start in earnest. All I can say is hang on to your hats. This season will probably also be a good jumping off point for the sensitive and faint of heart. It only gets worse from here. Good story wise, but far worse for the people involved in said story. There's a nice bumper sticker that's out that has to deal with the lateness of the books and the vengeance of Martin on asking about when the next book will be out. As Jar-Jar once said ... "yousa means innocent peoples are gonna die?"[/spoiler]
All I have to say after last nights episode is [spoiler]WHAT IN THE WORLD??!!! The whole time Ned was on the chopping block I was in disbelief. I thought he was the main character of the story? I hate that little in-bred "king" and want to see him really messed up. Loved the ending though when Rob captured that incestous pretty boy.[/spoiler] All in all...loving the show!
To answer your question ...
[spoiler]Nope Ned wasn't ever really a Main Character, but he did well to put more than a few main characters into play on the board. There is a reason I love this series and last night we saw the rise of my favorite character in the series. I think as the show and the series moves forward we'll see that it's more about the children of the people that fought in the last war.
One thing that I love about Ned's death is that he brought it upon himself when he took the dishonorable path. He did all these little actions for what he thought was the good of the people, but against the honor that he was to have. Had he told the King when he discovered the problem, he'd be alive. One choice to ignore the law and try to spare the children ended with his death at the hands of the child he attempted to protect. I love how little choice lead to serious actions in this series and there are a lot more to follow.[/spoiler]
Lannister payback. I kind of want most of them dead - except for the Imp. He's cool and I like his attitude about things.
Quote from: Rico on June 13, 2011, 08:32:05 AM
Haven't seen it - yet. Please - just tell me there's finally some payback coming!
There is plenty of payback this episode!
It's actually a must see episode and I can't wait to see what you thought!
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 08:38:05 AM
It's actually a must see episode and I can't wait to see what you thought!
Cool! I'll try and watch it tonight. I actually liked last week's episode more than other recent ones. Mainly because of Rob Stark pulling together an Army to go after Ned and the Lannisters. Anyway, I'm very intrigued now to see the most recent episode.
Quote from: QuadShot on June 13, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 06:38:37 AM
Well ...
[spoiler] And now the story begins to start in earnest. All I can say is hang on to your hats. This season will probably also be a good jumping off point for the sensitive and faint of heart. It only gets worse from here. Good story wise, but far worse for the people involved in said story. There's a nice bumper sticker that's out that has to deal with the lateness of the books and the vengeance of Martin on asking about when the next book will be out. As Jar-Jar once said ... "yousa means innocent peoples are gonna die?"[/spoiler]
All I have to say after last nights episode is [spoiler]WHAT IN THE WORLD??!!! The whole time Ned was on the chopping block I was in disbelief. I thought he was the main character of the story? I hate that little in-bred "king" and want to see him really messed up. Loved the ending though when Rob captured that incestous pretty boy.[/spoiler] All in all...loving the show!
This is one of those rare times where I find myself in 1000% total agreement with you.
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 08:44:21 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on June 13, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 06:38:37 AM
Well ...
[spoiler] And now the story begins to start in earnest. All I can say is hang on to your hats. This season will probably also be a good jumping off point for the sensitive and faint of heart. It only gets worse from here. Good story wise, but far worse for the people involved in said story. There's a nice bumper sticker that's out that has to deal with the lateness of the books and the vengeance of Martin on asking about when the next book will be out. As Jar-Jar once said ... "yousa means innocent peoples are gonna die?"[/spoiler]
All I have to say after last nights episode is [spoiler]WHAT IN THE WORLD??!!! The whole time Ned was on the chopping block I was in disbelief. I thought he was the main character of the story? I hate that little in-bred "king" and want to see him really messed up. Loved the ending though when Rob captured that incestous pretty boy.[/spoiler] All in all...loving the show!
This is one of those rare times where I find myself in 1000% total agreement with you.
Yeah...
[spoiler]Haven't seen the ep yet but when I read it in the book I was pretty damned upset. Fran is gonna be displeased with this turn of events. [/spoiler]
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 08:44:21 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on June 13, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: X on June 13, 2011, 06:38:37 AM
Well ...
[spoiler] And now the story begins to start in earnest. All I can say is hang on to your hats. This season will probably also be a good jumping off point for the sensitive and faint of heart. It only gets worse from here. Good story wise, but far worse for the people involved in said story. There's a nice bumper sticker that's out that has to deal with the lateness of the books and the vengeance of Martin on asking about when the next book will be out. As Jar-Jar once said ... "yousa means innocent peoples are gonna die?"[/spoiler]
All I have to say after last nights episode is [spoiler]WHAT IN THE WORLD??!!! The whole time Ned was on the chopping block I was in disbelief. I thought he was the main character of the story? I hate that little in-bred "king" and want to see him really messed up. Loved the ending though when Rob captured that incestous pretty boy.[/spoiler] All in all...loving the show!
This is one of those rare times where I find myself in 1000% total agreement with you.
:)
Yeah this is one of many reasons why I stopped reading the books.
Just finished watching this week's episode. That episode might have done it for me and I won't be back. I'm not being entertained - I'm being angered by watching this show now. And that isn't what I need to see after a long day of work.
Quote from: Rico on June 13, 2011, 05:36:29 PM
Just finished watching this week's episode. That episode might have done it for me and I won't be back. I'm not being entertained - I'm being angered by watching this show now. And that isn't what I need to see after a long day of work.
I can't really argue with that because I know what's ahead and it gets worse.
HOWEVER, that being said, what you feel in anger will be rewarded with joy as the series progresses.
[spoiler] This whole part was, in my opinion, to build up the kids and thrust you into the boots of Arya and Sansa. The anger you feel is the same that will transform Arya into one of the greatest heroines ever written. You feel her joy because you felt her pain. While some of the actual payoffs are long in coming, they are totally worth it. In point of fact, you'll even start to become a fan of more than one Lannister by the time the story is done. Yeah, it's that good. It has to be to turn your opinion of certain characters 180 degrees[/spoiler]
Warning, some spoilers to last night's episode are involved, but somethings are also explained better than I could.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/13/game-of-thrones-reaction/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/13/game-of-thrones-reaction/)
I watched the episode X...and, that took me aback....[spoiler]your thoughts on the Lannister's intrigues me. It was a rather dramatic end to the character of Stark. One that is unfortunate. I wish that Sean Bean didn't get killed off, but it seems that was his character's "destiny" and as this series has been doing a number of killings, I am not going to quit watching simply because of that, but it will suck regardless.
But, I do have to ask:
Just how much worse does it truly get from here on out? I can only stomach so much from a series before I begin to...what's the word...start actually hating it. The threshold on this series is MUCH higher than I've given any other, mostly thanks to you and a few other people I know. But if it gets a lot worse from here out, I don't think I can stomach that. So in your opinion, is it 2X, 10X, what?
I mean obviously our thresholds for tolerance is different, but I would appreciate any opinion you could give me before I decide to invest into this series anymore. [/spoiler]
Otherwise, this episode will no doubt stir the controversy. And thanks for your thoughts X. :)
King
For someone that knows the books, I can see how this show might be appealing. However, for me it has not been that way.
[spoiler]Like I've mentioned before, I'm not a big fan of fiction that portrays such nasty stuff happening to both children and animals. I'm not naive, I know bad things happen in the world - even in fantasy worlds. However, that doesn't mean I enjoy watching it as entertainment. I am also fairly black and white and believe some things you do in life can't be made up for or redeemed.[/spoiler]
Again, just my views and opinions.
I agree with the reactions of many here who are getting pretty disgusted with the turns this show is taking, but I am still hooked and pretty pissed that it's ending so soon. I despise the extra long hiatuses that have become standard with HBO series. I guess it's time to tackle the books in the off season.
Has anyone read what the hiatus will be? I imagine filming and producing 10 episodes at the level this show is at takes a good amount of time.
Quote from: billybob476 on June 14, 2011, 06:16:36 AM
Has anyone read what the hiatus will be? I imagine filming and producing 10 episodes at the level this show is at takes a good amount of time.
For most HB0 series, it's usually close to a year from season start to the next season start.
Interesting to see some reactions here, having read the books I've become almost immune to the WTF moments. This series more than any other shows that the typical "hero" is just a player and they don't just McGyver their way out at the last second.
That said by the 3rd book I was getting a bit sick of good guys looking home and dry and then there goes the rug again, but that is also one of the strengths of the series. We've all been caught out by those WTF moments, Gandalf in Moria, Kosh in Babylon 5, Obi-Wan in Star Wars, you just don't expect it every other chapter.
Oddly enough i've recorded but barely watched the show because I know whats going to happen, I can't get excited about it.
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on June 13, 2011, 11:29:12 PM
I watched the episode X...and, that took me aback....[spoiler]your thoughts on the Lannister's intrigues me. It was a rather dramatic end to the character of Stark. One that is unfortunate. I wish that Sean Bean didn't get killed off, but it seems that was his character's "destiny" and as this series has been doing a number of killings, I am not going to quit watching simply because of that, but it will suck regardless.
But, I do have to ask:
Just how much worse does it truly get from here on out? I can only stomach so much from a series before I begin to...what's the word...start actually hating it. The threshold on this series is MUCH higher than I've given any other, mostly thanks to you and a few other people I know. But if it gets a lot worse from here out, I don't think I can stomach that. So in your opinion, is it 2X, 10X, what?
I mean obviously our thresholds for tolerance is different, but I would appreciate any opinion you could give me before I decide to invest into this series anymore. [/spoiler]
Otherwise, this episode will no doubt stir the controversy. And thanks for your thoughts X. :)
King
To answer your question:
[spoiler] It gets worse but not in an evil over the top way. Better still, it doesn't get worse, it just has some different darkness going on. Good things happen to bad people. Bad things happen to good people. Bad and good people die for their causes, but the deaths are never pointless. Ned died because he confessed to being a traitor and a spoiled brat was on the throne. He should have known better and suffered for his trying to protect his family. You will grow to love certain characters and grow to hate people that you thought you liked.
Your emotions will be tested, but your patience will be rewarded. All you have to do is remember that the violence is on the level of Shakespeare. Some children will be harmed in the telling of this story, but I think that most of the remaining animals are pretty safe.
[/spoiler]
I actually think the horrific actions and "WTF moments" help to make this world believable as a fantasy world totally different from our own. Yes, there is an initial shock reaction, instantly followed by a better understanding of how harsh this fantasy world is. It adds to the darkness and the atmosphere of this miserable place. I can understand some turning away because of it, but I keep hearing that eventually, it pays off. I personally don't mind watching if I know that justice will eventually be served. The worse the atrocities committed by the characters, the better the pay off is when justice prevails.
Also, before now, the closest I've ever come to the shock reaction I feel after witnessing some of the atrocities we have been exposed to in this show have been true life atrocities I've heard about from true historical events. History podcasts and TV shows. I kind of find it simultaneously disturbing and interesting how low humans can sink in the real world during different periods of history.
Slightly annoyed that next week is the last episode though. We are no where near a conclusion (or so it seems). I like to have some sort of storyline conclusion at the end of a season!
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on June 14, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
I actually think the horrific actions and "WTF moments" help to make this world believable as a fantasy world totally different from our own. Yes, there is an initial shock reaction, instantly followed by a better understanding of how harsh this fantasy world is. It adds to the darkness and the atmosphere of this miserable place. I can understand some turning away because of it, but I keep hearing that eventually, it pays off. I personally don't mind watching if I know that justice will eventually be served. The worse the atrocities committed by the characters, the better the pay off is when justice prevails.
Also, before now, the closest I've ever come to the shock reaction I feel after witnessing some of the atrocities we have been exposed to in this show have been true life atrocities I've heard about from true historical events. History podcasts and TV shows. I kind of find it simultaneously disturbing and interesting how low humans can sink in the real world during different periods of history.
Slightly annoyed that next week is the last episode though. We are no where near a conclusion (or so it seems). I like to have some sort of storyline conclusion at the end of a season!
Try waiting 5 years to a decade between each book. At least the viewers don't have to wait long.
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on June 14, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
I actually think the horrific actions and "WTF moments" help to make this world believable as a fantasy world totally different from our own. Yes, there is an initial shock reaction, instantly followed by a better understanding of how harsh this fantasy world is. It adds to the darkness and the atmosphere of this miserable place. I can understand some turning away because of it, but I keep hearing that eventually, it pays off. I personally don't mind watching if I know that justice will eventually be served. The worse the atrocities committed by the characters, the better the pay off is when justice prevails.
Also, before now, the closest I've ever come to the shock reaction I feel after witnessing some of the atrocities we have been exposed to in this show have been true life atrocities I've heard about from true historical events. History podcasts and TV shows. I kind of find it simultaneously disturbing and interesting how low humans can sink in the real world during different periods of history.
Slightly annoyed that next week is the last episode though. We are no where near a conclusion (or so it seems). I like to have some sort of storyline conclusion at the end of a season!
There is a conclusion of a sort coming next week. Think of it like Empire Strikes Back.
Quote from: billybob476 on June 14, 2011, 05:00:31 PM
Quote from: ori-STUDFARM on June 14, 2011, 03:11:12 PM
I actually think the horrific actions and "WTF moments" help to make this world believable as a fantasy world totally different from our own. Yes, there is an initial shock reaction, instantly followed by a better understanding of how harsh this fantasy world is. It adds to the darkness and the atmosphere of this miserable place. I can understand some turning away because of it, but I keep hearing that eventually, it pays off. I personally don't mind watching if I know that justice will eventually be served. The worse the atrocities committed by the characters, the better the pay off is when justice prevails.
Also, before now, the closest I've ever come to the shock reaction I feel after witnessing some of the atrocities we have been exposed to in this show have been true life atrocities I've heard about from true historical events. History podcasts and TV shows. I kind of find it simultaneously disturbing and interesting how low humans can sink in the real world during different periods of history.
Slightly annoyed that next week is the last episode though. We are no where near a conclusion (or so it seems). I like to have some sort of storyline conclusion at the end of a season!
There is a conclusion of a sort coming next week. Think of it like Empire Strikes Back.
Agreed. Somethings are concluded, but think of it more like Lord of the Rings. You get a lot of story, but more is on the way each year. Ten hours a year as opposed to 2-3
I was sitting here thinking about the books and the show and it came to me that the key difference between this series and other shows is that it makes no attempts to make war or life seem pretty. It's a brutal world and they don't try to pretty it up. I think that's why I like this series. Not only is it well written, it works.
It's not some RenFaire version of a world where people forget just how crappy those older times were. I think even though it has many fantasy elements, the setting is one based on why you wouldn't want to live in ancient times where if you were not a noble, you were the property of a noble.
This series does a good job in taking the romantic whitewash off of medieval society that we tend to forget about.
It's kind of like the differences between the Civil War and those reenactments that really don't draw on the horrors of the time.
Or war movies pre and post saving private Ryan. When you see the death on the screen in SPR, you realize how crappy these people had it, something that was missing from a lot of the WW movies until then.
Quote from: X on June 14, 2011, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on June 13, 2011, 11:29:12 PM
I watched the episode X...and, that took me aback....[spoiler]your thoughts on the Lannister's intrigues me. It was a rather dramatic end to the character of Stark. One that is unfortunate. I wish that Sean Bean didn't get killed off, but it seems that was his character's "destiny" and as this series has been doing a number of killings, I am not going to quit watching simply because of that, but it will suck regardless.
But, I do have to ask:
Just how much worse does it truly get from here on out? I can only stomach so much from a series before I begin to...what's the word...start actually hating it. The threshold on this series is MUCH higher than I've given any other, mostly thanks to you and a few other people I know. But if it gets a lot worse from here out, I don't think I can stomach that. So in your opinion, is it 2X, 10X, what?
I mean obviously our thresholds for tolerance is different, but I would appreciate any opinion you could give me before I decide to invest into this series anymore. [/spoiler]
Otherwise, this episode will no doubt stir the controversy. And thanks for your thoughts X. :)
King
To answer your question:
[spoiler] It gets worse but not in an evil over the top way. Better still, it doesn't get worse, it just has some different darkness going on. Good things happen to bad people. Bad things happen to good people. Bad and good people die for their causes, but the deaths are never pointless. Ned died because he confessed to being a traitor and a spoiled brat was on the throne. He should have known better and suffered for his trying to protect his family. You will grow to love certain characters and grow to hate people that you thought you liked.
Your emotions will be tested, but your patience will be rewarded. All you have to do is remember that the violence is on the level of Shakespeare. Some children will be harmed in the telling of this story, but I think that most of the remaining animals are pretty safe.
[/spoiler]
Thanks X, that really clarified it. I think I will keep watching it. (because the theme music is awesome ;)) But that kind of story is intriguing and once in a while I like reading those kind of books where it is unpredictable and has all those elements that you mentioned.
King
This last episode was pretty gut-wrenching. Even knowing what would happen beforehand, it still hit me pretty hard.
I hope everyone sticks around at least until the season finale. If it wraps up like I think it will, I believe some jaws will drop. There's more momentous stuff ahead, and it isn't all gloom and doom. :)
It'll be a hell of a cliffhanger, though.
Re. the question of how bad things get: I'm a little over halfway through book 3. It has been an intense ride so far. Kind of like a rollercoaster, with breathtaking high-points and devastating low-points. And I have to say, as rough as episode 9 was, it wasn't as rough as what lies ahead. I'm pretty sure folks who've read the books know what scene I'm referring to.
But let me repeat; it is NOT all gloom and doom. I really hope folks stick around for the ride; there's some incredible stuff coming up. ;)
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 15, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
But let me repeat; it is NOT all gloom and doom. I really hope folks stick around for the ride; there's some incredible stuff coming up. ;)
You know how you see the light at the end of the tunnel, yup its a train
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 15, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
This last episode was pretty gut-wrenching. Even knowing what would happen beforehand, it still hit me pretty hard.
I hope everyone sticks around at least until the season finale. If it wraps up like I think it will, I believe some jaws will drop. There's more momentous stuff ahead, and it isn't all gloom and doom. :)
It'll be a hell of a cliffhanger, though.
Re. the question of how bad things get: I'm a little over halfway through book 3. It has been an intense ride so far. Kind of like a rollercoaster, with breathtaking high-points and devastating low-points. And I have to say, as rough as episode 9 was, it wasn't as rough as what lies ahead. I'm pretty sure folks who've read the books know what scene I'm referring to.
But let me repeat; it is NOT all gloom and doom. I really hope folks stick around for the ride; there's some incredible stuff coming up. ;)
Wraith, are you talking about:
[spoiler] A certain wedding and the result of oath breaking? [/spoiler]
Quote from: X on June 16, 2011, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 15, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
This last episode was pretty gut-wrenching. Even knowing what would happen beforehand, it still hit me pretty hard.
I hope everyone sticks around at least until the season finale. If it wraps up like I think it will, I believe some jaws will drop. There's more momentous stuff ahead, and it isn't all gloom and doom. :)
It'll be a hell of a cliffhanger, though.
Re. the question of how bad things get: I'm a little over halfway through book 3. It has been an intense ride so far. Kind of like a rollercoaster, with breathtaking high-points and devastating low-points. And I have to say, as rough as episode 9 was, it wasn't as rough as what lies ahead. I'm pretty sure folks who've read the books know what scene I'm referring to.
But let me repeat; it is NOT all gloom and doom. I really hope folks stick around for the ride; there's some incredible stuff coming up. ;)
Wraith, are you talking about:
[spoiler] A certain wedding and the result of oath breaking? [/spoiler]
Yep; exactly. That was HARSH.
I think I'll stick it to the end of this season but I don't know how far beyond that I'll go.
Having said that, I had a bit of a marathon session two nights ago and got through two and a half episodes and despite feeling quite down on it, couldn't bring myself to simply give up.
I don't know what it is but there's still something about this series...
Last night was so awesome. I have one word to sum it all up. Epic.
Quote from: Feathers on June 20, 2011, 03:50:50 AM
I think I'll stick it to the end of this season but I don't know how far beyond that I'll go.
Having said that, I had a bit of a marathon session two nights ago and got through two and a half episodes and despite feeling quite down on it, couldn't bring myself to simply give up.
I don't know what it is but there's still something about this series...
The thing about a good story is that it's a good story. If it invokes your emotions and pulls that out of you, then it's doing it's job. Not every story will or can be happy, but this story will be honest with the readers. There will be twists and turns, but nothing that breaks the rules that the author established regarding the story. There will be nothing in this story that isn't setup in some way shape or form in other parts of the story.
Shocking things will happen, but in hindsight, you will almost always see how that road was taken.
The good news is that because the lows can be so low, the highs are amazing and you learn to cherish the characters because you don't know if they are ever going to be safe. I think that's part of what makes it a great read and show. Like in life, nothing is promised, but there are rewards to be had.
Final episode was amazing! I am working my way through the 2nd book right now. I read they will start filming the next season in Belfast starting 7/25.
One minor annoyance:
[spoiler]I don't recall in the book -Jaime confessing to Catelyn Stark about tossing Bran out the window. Am I remembering this right?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Final episode was amazing! I am working my way through the 2nd book right now. I read they will start filming the next season in Belfast starting 7/25.
One minor annoyance:
[spoiler]I don't recall in the book -Jaime confessing to Catelyn Stark about tossing Bran out the window. Am I remembering this right?[/spoiler]
yeah,
[spoiler]You're right, that didn't happen in the first book.[/spoiler]
I'm also working my way through the second book.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Final episode was amazing! I am working my way through the 2nd book right now. I read they will start filming the next season in Belfast starting 7/25.
One minor annoyance:
[spoiler]I don't recall in the book -Jaime confessing to Catelyn Stark about tossing Bran out the window. Am I remembering this right?[/spoiler]
To answer your question:
[spoiler] It didn't happen in the first book, they didn't have that meeting. However, Danerys surviving the fire with hair is something else that they changed.[/spoiler]
Quote from: X on June 20, 2011, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Final episode was amazing! I am working my way through the 2nd book right now. I read they will start filming the next season in Belfast starting 7/25.
One minor annoyance:
[spoiler]I don't recall in the book -Jaime confessing to Catelyn Stark about tossing Bran out the window. Am I remembering this right?[/spoiler]
To answer your question:
[spoiler] It didn't happen in the first book, they didn't have that meeting. However, Danerys surviving the fire with hair is something else that they changed.[/spoiler]
Yes but...
[spoiler]I was happy at least the fire didn't spare her clothes.... ;) ...isn't that terrible of me! :) [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 11:12:12 AM
Quote from: X on June 20, 2011, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Final episode was amazing! I am working my way through the 2nd book right now. I read they will start filming the next season in Belfast starting 7/25.
One minor annoyance:
[spoiler]I don't recall in the book -Jaime confessing to Catelyn Stark about tossing Bran out the window. Am I remembering this right?[/spoiler]
To answer your question:
[spoiler] It didn't happen in the first book, they didn't have that meeting. However, Danerys surviving the fire with hair is something else that they changed.[/spoiler]
Yes but...
[spoiler]I was happy at least the fire didn't spare her clothes.... ;) ...isn't that terrible of me! :) [/spoiler]
Lucky for you they made her older in the TV series then in the books.. or that would be a terrible thing. :)
You are right about that Kenny! People might that the ex-Rep Weiner is posting here. ;D ((uh-oh...did I say that out loud?))
Yikes yeah.
Book 2 comment below so double spoiler warning.
[spoiler]
Not to mention what Joffery does to Sansa in book 2. Sophie Turner is only 15. :o
[/spoiler]
Quote from: billybob476 on June 20, 2011, 11:42:44 AM
Yikes yeah.
Book 2 comment below so double spoiler warning.
[spoiler]
Not to mention what Joffery does to Sansa in book 2. Sophie Turner is only 15. :o
[/spoiler]
I've given serious thought to that.
[spoiler] It won't happen. I think that they are going to infer what happens, but not show it. Perhaps they will cover it up with another scene not in the books like the Jamie scene.[/spoiler]
I didn't think I would enjoy the series finale. With everything going on, there was no way that they could resolve any of the, what I consider, main storylines.
I was wrong. These main storylines are continuing into the next season at the very least. But I love that ending.
[spoiler]It's something I wanted to see happen the minute we saw the dragon eggs. And it more than paid off for the lack of resolve to all the political wars kicking off.
I would say this whole series has been more of an introduction to this world and it's characters. More like a prologue of what is to come. Can't wait for Season 2 when it should no doubt, really kick off![/spoiler]
Making progress on Book 2:
[spoiler]During one of Tyrion's POV chapters - I get a sense that Cersei is having incestuous relations with her cousin. They haven't explicitly stated it, but you get the impression that Tyrion suspects. Maybe it will be clearer as I read on. GRRM is one of the series producers, so he must be authorizing these book crossover bits.[/spoiler]
Crazy to think that this is only season 1...I liked this episode well enough. Season 2 is setting up to be one crazy as heck season.
King
THe Storm about a Certain characters outcome has been spreading round the interweb, there are a lot of un happy people out there.
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on June 20, 2011, 11:45:03 PM
Crazy to think that this is only season 1...I liked this episode well enough. Season 2 is setting up to be one crazy as heck season.
King
Well, book 2 is called "A Clash of Kings" so based on that and the events of this season, make your inferences :) It should be good!
Oh MY! Two things about this last episode:
It was awesome
It sucked
[spoiler]Ok, by sucked I mean that it ended for the season! I can't wait for this to start up again. I am so hooked that I'm reading the first book now on my iPad. And plan on buying the rest. I KNEW those dragon eggs would hatch into dragons. That was so cool. This really is an epic show and I know that a lot of people don't like it, but it really does have a good story to it. Rock on![/spoiler]
Two episodes to go for me and I think I e worked out what keeps me coming back to watch.
I'm sure X has probably said this somewhere but for me, it's te fact that there are no heroes that makes it intreating. Some heroic stuff goes on but it's just about all motivated by enlightened self interest. To that degree there are perhaps greater parallels with reality than in a lot of TV and I think that's what intrigues me.
I done necessarily like it all (story or production in some cases) but I am interested in it if that makes any sense.
(Originally, I was mostly watching just because Seam Bean was in it.)
Quote from: Feathers on June 21, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
Two episodes to go for me and I think I e worked out what keeps me coming back to watch.
I'm sure X has probably said this somewhere but for me, it's te fact that there are no heroes that makes it intreating. Some heroic stuff goes on but it's just about all motivated by enlightened self interest. To that degree there are perhaps greater parallels with reality than in a lot of TV and I think that's what intrigues me.
I done necessarily like it all (story or production in some cases) but I am interested in it if that makes any sense.
(Originally, I was mostly watching just because Seam Bean was in it.)
I guess that's the thing, it's probably as close to "real life" as a medieval fantasy series can be, at least when it comes to people's motivations. Some people are relatively good and noble and are forced to do bad things because of circumstances, other people are just jerks :)
This show is awesome.
I feel that this back-stabbing ambition accurately portrays 'real' motivations that drove historical events in the War of the Roses in England. Just read some history from this time period, or even a few of Shakespeare's plays - and you will see that GRRM is not that radical at all.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
Making progress on Book 2:
[spoiler]During one of Tyrion's POV chapters - I get a sense that Cersei is having incestuous relations with her cousin. They haven't explicitly stated it, but you get the impression that Tyrion suspects. Maybe it will be clearer as I read on. GRRM is one of the series producers, so he must be authorizing these book crossover bits.[/spoiler]
You're correct about Cersei. Actually, the TV show added that element to the season 1 finale.
I'm happy that the show seems to be winning folks over. Season/Book one is in many ways like a prologue. It takes you on a tour of the world in which the story takes place, introduces you to the major players, and gives you a little history of the world. Everything sort of takes off with the end of book one, and just keeps getting more epic as the story progresses. :)
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 21, 2011, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 20, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
Making progress on Book 2:
[spoiler]During one of Tyrion's POV chapters - I get a sense that Cersei is having incestuous relations with her cousin. They haven't explicitly stated it, but you get the impression that Tyrion suspects. Maybe it will be clearer as I read on. GRRM is one of the series producers, so he must be authorizing these book crossover bits.[/spoiler]
You're correct about Cersei. Actually, the TV show added that element to the season 1 finale.
I'm happy that the show seems to be winning folks over. Season/Book one is in many ways like a prologue. It takes you on a tour of the world in which the story takes place, introduces you to the major players, and gives you a little history of the world. Everything sort of takes off with the end of book one, and just keeps getting more epic as the story progresses. :)
Exactly! This is to get you the motivations of the Major characters. You were brought into their world and you met important people that grew on you, but in the end, it was part of painting the story on why the major characters are moving in the directions that they choose. This is a great example of show and not tell a story. You get to see first hand on how these people feel about characters that shape who they are and who they become. You get to see some rise to greatness from the very beginning instead of just told about their early lives and problems.
I am liking this story very much. I started reading the novel, but there's one thing in the book that differs from the show that I don't like much. (Not a spoiler) The kids, like Jon Snow, Robb, the girls, are all MUCH younger in the book than the show. It's hard for me to envision Jon Snow as a 14 year old (as indicated in the book). Other than that, I like it a lot.
My guess on the age changes was so they could use the same actors for the next season etc. more easily. I have no idea if much time passes between books, but it's hard to have a 14 year old kid actor portray an adult. Especially when I'm guessing that several of these "kids" are going to need to be doing some fighting.
I did decide to watch the season ending episode since I had come this far and I'll admit, I'm a bit more interested now in what happens in the future for some of these characters. I still have trouble with many of them and this show has certainly pushed some buttons for me. However, I did see some rays of hope possibly for the future that I really haven't seen yet. A couple comments about that below...
[spoiler]When Joffrey had Ned Stark killed (which obviously made me upset), he made a grave error. I'm guessing this will haunt him and his reign as King (however long that lasts) for a long time. The gathering when Rob Stark was proclaimed King of the North I liked and I'm also liking this commander of the Night's Watch more and more. And of course the dragons. I'm really hoping those play a critical part in things in the future.[/spoiler]
So, I've had a little change of heart. Hopefully it will be a good decision to continue with this series for me. Still not completely sure, but I feel better than I did before about it.
Quote from: QuadShot on June 22, 2011, 08:34:51 AM
I am liking this story very much. I started reading the novel, but there's one thing in the book that differs from the show that I don't like much. (Not a spoiler) The kids, like Jon Snow, Robb, the girls, are all MUCH younger in the book than the show. It's hard for me to envision Jon Snow as a 14 year old (as indicated in the book). Other than that, I like it a lot.
Yeah, I think they didn't want to show a 13 year old Daenyrs in her wedding nuptials - would be pushing it - even though historically such things did happen.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 22, 2011, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on June 22, 2011, 08:34:51 AM
I am liking this story very much. I started reading the novel, but there's one thing in the book that differs from the show that I don't like much. (Not a spoiler) The kids, like Jon Snow, Robb, the girls, are all MUCH younger in the book than the show. It's hard for me to envision Jon Snow as a 14 year old (as indicated in the book). Other than that, I like it a lot.
Yeah, I think they didn't want to show a 13 year old Daenyrs in her wedding nuptials - would be pushing it - even though historically such things did happen.
I think they evenly aged everyone. Remember Rickon was supposed to be a baby and he's walking and talking 6 or 7. that would make everyone older across the board.
Quote from: Rico on June 22, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
My guess on the age changes was so they could use the same actors for the next season etc. more easily. I have no idea if much time passes between books, but it's hard to have a 14 year old kid actor portray an adult. Especially when I'm guessing that several of these "kids" are going to need to be doing some fighting.
I did decide to watch the season ending episode since I had come this far and I'll admit, I'm a bit more interested now in what happens in the future for some of these characters. I still have trouble with many of them and this show has certainly pushed some buttons for me. However, I did see some rays of hope possibly for the future that I really haven't seen yet. A couple comments about that below...
[spoiler]When Joffrey had Ned Stark killed (which obviously made me upset), he made a grave error. I'm guessing this will haunt him and his reign as King (however long that lasts) for a long time. The gathering when Rob Stark was proclaimed King of the North I liked and I'm also liking this commander of the Night's Watch more and more. And of course the dragons. I'm really hoping those play a critical part in things in the future.[/spoiler]
So, I've had a little change of heart. Hopefully it will be a good decision to continue with this series for me. Still not completely sure, but I feel better than I did before about it.
I guess it's not really a spoiler to say the second book picks up immediately where the first lets off. So no worries about a BSG-style "5 years later" come season 2.
Quote from: Rico on June 22, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
My guess on the age changes was so they could use the same actors for the next season etc. more easily. I have no idea if much time passes between books, but it's hard to have a 14 year old kid actor portray an adult. Especially when I'm guessing that several of these "kids" are going to need to be doing some fighting.
I did decide to watch the season ending episode since I had come this far and I'll admit, I'm a bit more interested now in what happens in the future for some of these characters. I still have trouble with many of them and this show has certainly pushed some buttons for me. However, I did see some rays of hope possibly for the future that I really haven't seen yet. A couple comments about that below...
[spoiler]When Joffrey had Ned Stark killed (which obviously made me upset), he made a grave error. I'm guessing this will haunt him and his reign as King (however long that lasts) for a long time. The gathering when Rob Stark was proclaimed King of the North I liked and I'm also liking this commander of the Night's Watch more and more. And of course the dragons. I'm really hoping those play a critical part in things in the future.[/spoiler]
So, I've had a little change of heart. Hopefully it will be a good decision to continue with this series for me. Still not completely sure, but I feel better than I did before about it.
[spoiler]
Its ironic how he wanted to keep order in his kingdom, but instead he enraged the Northern kingdoms and allies. Which any sane person would have figured out if they had stopped to think about it, but this kid was obviously on a power-kick at the time and will be paying the price. No doubt his father would want a few words with Joffrey...[/spoiler]
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on June 22, 2011, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: Rico on June 22, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
My guess on the age changes was so they could use the same actors for the next season etc. more easily. I have no idea if much time passes between books, but it's hard to have a 14 year old kid actor portray an adult. Especially when I'm guessing that several of these "kids" are going to need to be doing some fighting.
I did decide to watch the season ending episode since I had come this far and I'll admit, I'm a bit more interested now in what happens in the future for some of these characters. I still have trouble with many of them and this show has certainly pushed some buttons for me. However, I did see some rays of hope possibly for the future that I really haven't seen yet. A couple comments about that below...
[spoiler]When Joffrey had Ned Stark killed (which obviously made me upset), he made a grave error. I'm guessing this will haunt him and his reign as King (however long that lasts) for a long time. The gathering when Rob Stark was proclaimed King of the North I liked and I'm also liking this commander of the Night's Watch more and more. And of course the dragons. I'm really hoping those play a critical part in things in the future.[/spoiler]
So, I've had a little change of heart. Hopefully it will be a good decision to continue with this series for me. Still not completely sure, but I feel better than I did before about it.
[spoiler]
Its ironic how he wanted to keep order in his kingdom, but instead he enraged the Northern kingdoms and allies. Which any sane person would have figured out if they had stopped to think about it, but this kid was obviously on a power-kick at the time and will be paying the price. No doubt his father would want a few words with Joffrey...[/spoiler]
King
King, remember:
[spoiler]Joffrey isn't sane. He's the product of a brother and sister mating. So I believe this new king isn't quite all there, genetically. I instantly hated him, plus he looks odd! :wacko[/spoiler]
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on June 22, 2011, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: Rico on June 22, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
My guess on the age changes was so they could use the same actors for the next season etc. more easily. I have no idea if much time passes between books, but it's hard to have a 14 year old kid actor portray an adult. Especially when I'm guessing that several of these "kids" are going to need to be doing some fighting.
I did decide to watch the season ending episode since I had come this far and I'll admit, I'm a bit more interested now in what happens in the future for some of these characters. I still have trouble with many of them and this show has certainly pushed some buttons for me. However, I did see some rays of hope possibly for the future that I really haven't seen yet. A couple comments about that below...
[spoiler]When Joffrey had Ned Stark killed (which obviously made me upset), he made a grave error. I'm guessing this will haunt him and his reign as King (however long that lasts) for a long time. The gathering when Rob Stark was proclaimed King of the North I liked and I'm also liking this commander of the Night's Watch more and more. And of course the dragons. I'm really hoping those play a critical part in things in the future.[/spoiler]
So, I've had a little change of heart. Hopefully it will be a good decision to continue with this series for me. Still not completely sure, but I feel better than I did before about it.
I'm glad you're giving it another chance! :) Those elements you mentioned in the spoiler tag will all play a major part in what's to come.
While there are definitely some rather scummy characters doing some scummy things in the series, there are heroes & heroines as well. The bad-guys get some licks in, but the good guys get their moments to shine as well. The old saying "you reap what you sew" proves to be very true, for both the likeable and unlikable characters...
Re. the age of the characters: I've noticed that in deference to birthdays, the characters refer to a "name-day". In some societies in the real world, children aren't considered 'full-people' until they receive a name. Perhaps in this world, kids don't have their first name day until they are 3 to 5 of our years old. If a character's age is measured starting with their first Name Day, this could easily add 3 to 5 'real' years to the ages given for the characters. For example; Ned's age might be stated as being 35, but when you add in the years leading up to his first Name Day, he'd have an actual age of 38 to 40.
[spoiler]
Its ironic how he wanted to keep order in his kingdom, but instead he enraged the Northern kingdoms and allies. Which any sane person would have figured out if they had stopped to think about it, but this kid was obviously on a power-kick at the time and will be paying the price. No doubt his father would want a few words with Joffrey...[/spoiler]
King
Oh yeah. I think its safe to say that the events that occur in season one have stirred things up quite a bit. ;)
I don't think the following is a spoiler, but I'll put it in tags just to be safe:
[spoiler] By now, we know that seasons in the world of A Song Of Ice And Fire don't work like they do in our world: summers and winters can be as short as a few years, or can last decades. There is a correlation between the seasons and the stirrings of otherworldly forces. Early on in the story, Old Nan tells Brandon a story about the things that start to stir in the winter. And to quote the House Words of the Starks: "Winter is coming."
Here's part of the beauty of the series for me: Elements of Fantasy are eased in gradually, which makes the world of the story feel more real. To me, the books read more like historical fiction than traditional Sword & Sorcery books, and I love it! [/spoiler]
One thing wasn't explained to my satisfaction in season 1, and I think is a HUGE point that has more ramifications to the plot and future events than almost any other. I was hoping one of the folks that has read the books could explain it for me:
[spoiler]Did Littlefinger and Varys lie to Cat about the dagger being Tyrion's and if so why? Do we get an explanation of this later on or is it dropped?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on June 22, 2011, 10:36:13 AM
One thing wasn't explained to my satisfaction in season 1, and I think is a HUGE point that has more ramifications to the plot and future events than almost any other. I was hoping one of the folks that has read the books could explain it for me:
[spoiler]Did Littlefinger and Varys lie to Cat about the dagger being Tyrion's and if so why? Do we get an explanation of this later on or is it dropped?[/spoiler]
[spoiler] The dagger and Littlefinger's goals and motivations are further explored as the series progresses. [/spoiler]
Quote from: wraith1701 on June 22, 2011, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on June 22, 2011, 10:36:13 AM
One thing wasn't explained to my satisfaction in season 1, and I think is a HUGE point that has more ramifications to the plot and future events than almost any other. I was hoping one of the folks that has read the books could explain it for me:
[spoiler]Did Littlefinger and Varys lie to Cat about the dagger being Tyrion's and if so why? Do we get an explanation of this later on or is it dropped?[/spoiler]
[spoiler] The dagger and Littlefinger's goals and motivations are further explored as the series progresses. [/spoiler]
ARGH! Why did you even bother putting that in spoiler tag!?! Bah, I'll read the books, no way I'm waiting till 2012. ;) ;)
Good article about the early release in Germany of the latest book:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/07/04/thrones.novel.spoilers.ew/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/07/04/thrones.novel.spoilers.ew/index.html?hpt=hp_c2)
So I really love the theme song for this show and some really great single-artist multitrack covers have been floating around youtube. facebook and G+. My favourite two are below:
The "rock" cover:
Game of Thrones - Opening Credits Cover (Heavy Version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC-ZmlwBWKM#ws)
The violin cover (this one gets AWESOME after the initial intro):
Game of Thrones Violin Cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA#ws)
and to be as epic as possible, the two of them mashed up:
Game of Thrones BEST VERSION EVER - Jason Yang & Roger Lima/WNL Mashup! Opening Theme Cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWQXQgHgq8#ws)
Just read the on GRRM's blog, some signed final shooting scripts which were to be auctioned off for charity have allegedly been stolen. Mr. Martin is asking fans to keep an eye on the web to see if they go on sale.
QuoteStolen Scripts
Aug. 13th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Parris and I have always been big supporters of the various charities, both fannish and mundane, that raise funds through auctions at SF and fantasy conventions. It's a great way to raise money for worthy causes, have a little fun, and get some unique items into the hands of collectors. In fact, I just finished shipping off five huge boxes of books, games, t-shirts, and other collectables to our hotel in Reno, to donate to the various charity auctions at worldcon.
(Some items will go to SFWA Emergency Medical Fund auction, some to the BWB fund-raising drive to pay for their party, some to the worldcon's own charity).
Unfortunately, there are a couple items that won't be auctioned at worldcon. We had hoped to bring a couple of signed scripts from the first season of the HBO series GAME OF THRONES with us, and the good folks in Belfast were kind enough to donate them. Dan Weiss sent them across the pond (registered and priority, signature required).
All that arrived was a battered envelope and Dan's cover letter.
The US post office delivered the envelope in a plastic baggie with a pre-printed note apologizing for the "damage." But this was no error in handling. The envelope was torn open at one end, and both scripts were gone, though Dan's letter remained.
I am convinced the scripts were stolen.
Last year we donated a signed STAR TREK script to a charity auction and it brought $1200. These two scripts may not have gone for quite that much, but they would have brought home some significant bucks. Someone in the US Post Office (we believe the package made it across from Belfast relatively unscathed) recognized their value and removed them.
So... I am putting out the word to all my fans and readers. Whoever sold these scripts will presumably try to cash in at some point. So if any of you ever see scripts fitting this description turn up on ebay, one of its competitors, or on some dealer's table -- notify me at once, and report the stolen property to whatever local authorities are appropriate.
Here's what was taken: two teleplays, final shooting scripts for episodes nine and ten of season one, "Baelor" and "Fire and Blood," autographed by writers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss and director Alan Taylor, printed on white paper.
Like Bloodraven, I have a thousand eyes and one. So let's keep 'em all peeled, boys and girls.
http://grrm.livejournal.com/234472.html (http://grrm.livejournal.com/234472.html)
Those music videos are awesome! Thanks for sharing.
'Game of Thrones' Season 2 Gets April 2012 Premiere Date
by Chris Harnick, posted Oct 9th 2011 1:00PM
Winter is coming ... this spring. HBO has announced 'Game of Thrones' Season 2 will premiere in April 2012. Can you hold out six more months?
No specific premiere date has been announced.
Production of Season 2 has had some weather-related problems. In early September, five people were injured by high winds on the Northern Ireland set. Meanwhile, the cast has been growing as more book characters prepare to make their appearance in the TV show.
The first season of the hit HBO series was honored with 13 Emmy nominations. Peter Dinklage took home the award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series and the show won for Main Title Design.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure if this was posted yet, but here's a listing of some of the new actors for next season and their roles:
http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984 (http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984)
Quote from: Rico on October 10, 2011, 04:52:26 PM
Not sure if this was posted yet, but here's a listing of some of the new actors for next season and their roles:
http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984 (http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984)
These look pretty good! I wonder why they changed a few of the names of the characters. Margery Tyrell looks perfect.
Quote from: Rico on October 10, 2011, 04:52:26 PM
Not sure if this was posted yet, but here's a listing of some of the new actors for next season and their roles:
http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984 (http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/hbo/game-of-thrones/game-thrones-meet-faces-season-2/86984)
Without knowing the characters, all I can say is that there's a surprising number of recognisable faces from this side of the pond in theat list.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on October 10, 2011, 05:31:21 PM
These look pretty good! I wonder why they changed a few of the names of the characters. Margery Tyrell looks perfect.
I read that producers thought Asha was too close to Osha and would confuse people.
A good site for Game of Thrones news:
http://paper.li/GameOfThrones (http://paper.li/GameOfThrones)
Season two production trailer....
Game of Thrones: Season 2 In Production (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE12H1HorUU#ws)
Cool! Nice to get a glimpse of a few of the characters that appear in the 2nd book. I saw Stannis, Margery Tyrell, Melisandre, etc. Can't wait.
Yeah, looks great. Just a few months away....
I always pictured Stannis as a bit beefier, but I love that actor, he played Thomas Jefferson in John Adams and did a great job. Can't wait for the Blackwater...
New trailer out for Season 2. Narration by Stannis:
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046050.html (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00046050.html)
God, it looks so great already. Can't wait. I really can't wait for the events of Storm of Swords to be shown.
Some commentary by Lena Heady - Cersei:
http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/726311/lena-headey-talks-cerseis-upcoming-arc-in-game-of-thrones.jhtml?xrs=share_copy (http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/726311/lena-headey-talks-cerseis-upcoming-arc-in-game-of-thrones.jhtml?xrs=share_copy)
New Season 2 preview...
http://youtu.be/rOzXsqoJhtE (http://youtu.be/rOzXsqoJhtE)
Season two pics here:
http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/Game_of_Thrones_Season_2 (http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/Game_of_Thrones_Season_2)
Yes. My favorite stuff with Tyrion is coming up this season.
Yes, he is amazing in this next book.
Behind the scenes on season 2....
http://youtu.be/s_gXaJJi54M (http://youtu.be/s_gXaJJi54M)
WOWOWOWOW!!!
http://youtu.be/4-zg7QB-4Zw (http://youtu.be/4-zg7QB-4Zw)
I still haven't decided whether to pick this up again this time around.
I'm not watching a lot else at the moment but I'm strangely luke warm about this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Thrones-Complete-Season-Blu-ray/dp/B003Y5HWMW/?_encoding=UTF8&s=movies-tv&tag=aintitcoolcoa-20&linkCode=ur2&qid=1330414893&camp=1789&sr=1-1&creative=9325 (http://www.amazon.com/Game-Thrones-Complete-Season-Blu-ray/dp/B003Y5HWMW/?_encoding=UTF8&s=movies-tv&tag=aintitcoolcoa-20&linkCode=ur2&qid=1330414893&camp=1789&sr=1-1&creative=9325)
You can preorder the first seaon on bluray for 34.99 on Amazon! That's way cheap.
Wow isn't msrp over $100?
Yeah, it's around 89.99 I think. I ordered mine with release day delivery and it's still probably gonna be 10-15 bucks less than I'd pay in the store. I love Amazon. It's my flavorite. :metallica:
This really made me laugh. Anyone that's seen GoT or read the books knows how awesome this is.
Ten Minutes of Joff Getting Slapped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTt8_09b0QY#ws)
Take that Joffrey!
This was my moment of zen for the day!
I could watch that allllllllllllllllllllllllllll day.
King
New trailer for season two. I really love the feeling we get from this trailer.
http://youtu.be/BwGILsrdGdM (http://youtu.be/BwGILsrdGdM)
Really the ONLY reason I'm keeping HBO....
Quote from: QuadShot on March 04, 2012, 04:13:04 PM
Really the ONLY reason I'm keeping HBO....
Same here! Well, that and Curb Your Enthusiasm. :)
Quote from: Bromptonboy on March 04, 2012, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: QuadShot on March 04, 2012, 04:13:04 PM
Really the ONLY reason I'm keeping HBO....
Same here! Well, that and Curb Your Enthusiasm. :)
Do you respect wood, Pete?
The next couple years on Game of Thrones are going to be crazy for the unitiated. So looking forward to it.
The Simpsons "Game Of Thrones" Couch Gag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0gsnRw4G_I#ws)
Simpsons did a great Game of Thrones style intro!
Hah! That is GREAT!
And,....another trailer....
Game Of Thrones Season 2 "The More You Love" NEW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Uo0XTBKjs#ws)
SEASON TWO STARTS TONIGHT!!!
DVR is set....
Sunday is pretty jam packed with entertainments...this is the one I'll be watching live.
CANT WAIT. :)
Great episode, sets up so much. I am wondering how people who haven't read the books are faring.
Very enjoyable - although with a few departures from the book. I can see how they had to simplify a few items. Good to finally meet the rest of the Baratheon boys. :)
DVR'ed the new episode. Haven't watched yet. I've not read the books, but the first season was very enjoyable. The political intrigue comes across well. I'm rooting for the dragon lady.
All I want...and in five books, G.R.R. Martin STILL has not given me what I want...[spoiler]is for Arya to be reunited with her Dire Wolf. We know it's alive and well and building its own wolf army...the moment Arya reunites with Nymeria is going to spectacular, I just can't wait[/spoiler]
This episode was top notch although a bit heavy on exposition and not alot happened. But still very good. I loved the scene with Cersei and Littlefinger which I did not remember from the books.
I believe it's starting up over here about now too. As discussed, I think I'm going to give this one a miss this time around, however. I'm running out of viewing time!
No that scene was not in the book.
[spoiler]I was a bit taken aback, but then thought the producers have to show why Little Finger has a change of heart about supporting Cersei. [/spoiler]
I think that there will be a lot of deviation from the books from this point out and it only makes sense given what happened in the books and the ages of those involved.
I think it works because I can enjoy something new in a parallel universe to the events that I do know.
I enjoyed the first episode of season two, but it's getting a bit more complex and hard to follow for someone like me who hasn't read the books. Season one seemed more simple and focused, but of course that focused a lot on just a few of the families and kingdoms. But, I'll try to hang in there. A few other comments on this episode...
[spoiler]Tyrion is just so darn awesome in every scene. I just love how much sharper and wiser he is than just about everyone around him. The idiot Joffrey has no idea how much Tyrion gets one over on him. Also enjoyed Rob with his wolf talking to Jamie Lannister. Oh, who is this woman on the beach with red hair? Have we seen her before?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on April 02, 2012, 06:16:39 PM
I enjoyed the first episode of season two, but it's getting a bit more complex and hard to follow for someone like me who hasn't read the books. Season one seemed more simple and focused, but of course that focused a lot on just a few of the families and kingdoms. But, I'll try to hang in there. A few other comments on this episode...
[spoiler]Tyrion is just so darn awesome in every scene. I just love how much sharper and wiser he is than just about everyone around him. The idiot Joffrey has no idea how much Tyrion gets one over on him. Also enjoyed Rob with his wolf talking to Jamie Lannister. Oh, who is this woman on the beach with red hair? Have we seen her before?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]The "red woman" is new, you'll find out more as the season progresses.[/spoiler]
Stick with it Rico, you'll pick it up quickly. The new characters are mostly in two camps...Stannis Baratheon's group, which includes Davos, the bald guy with the beard who was kind of Stannis' counselor and also the red woman you mentioned. Renly Baratheon will show up soon. We met him only briefly last season and youll probably remember him as the young man who was the lover of the Knight of Flowers, the guy who performed so well at King Roberts jousting event last season.
Oh, I will be sticking with it. At least to see certain people get some payback! :)
Whew, Rico, [spoiler]you might have to wait several years for that![/spoiler]
I'm not reading that spoiler box Joby.
Haha okay, it's nothing major though ;)
Quote from: Rico on April 03, 2012, 05:23:34 AM
Oh, I will be sticking with it. At least to see certain people get some payback! :)
Some people get it sooner than others!
I really enjoyed the 2nd episode of this season. There were some liberties with the characters & story line - but all justified for those who don't know the entire back story.
[spoiler]Littlefinger 'motivating' that poor prostitute was a good way to show his ruthlessness - because he can otherwise seem to be a charming character. I continue to LOVE Tyrion & Varys. Davos is excellent, and I Stannis is well cast. Jachin Hagar (spelling) had his introduction to Arya.[/spoiler]
Still finding season two so far a bit more complex, talky and not as interesting as season one. I really need a flow chart or diagram to keep all these various factions, families, allies and enemies straight. Is anyone else watching who hasn't read the books? Anyway, trying to hang in there.
Oh - HBO just renewed the series for a third season.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=89052 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=89052)
A few of my friends at work watch the show, and they have not read the books. They have the same opinion as you Rico. I am able to explain a lot of the back story to them when we do our coffee run in the AM - and this helps them figure out who is who. Most of them weren't getting who Stannis is - and they complain there isn't enough of Daenrys. I tell them to be patient..
Yeah, all of a sudden this Stannis guy is really important - and the lady with the red hair. Whatever happened to daddy Lannister? Tywin?? I guess one of the issues that is starting to show up is there are A LOT of groups vying for power. In season one it seemed to just focus mainly on the Lannister's and the Stark's. I enjoyed Cersei's comment in the latest episode about how many claims to the throne there are now - 5, 6?? LOL!
Quote from: Rico on April 10, 2012, 03:34:09 PM
Yeah, all of a sudden this Stannis guy is really important - and the lady with the red hair. Whatever happened to daddy Lannister? Tywin?? I guess one of the issues that is starting to show up is there are A LOT of groups vying for power. In season one it seemed to just focus mainly on the Lannister's and the Stark's. I enjoyed Cersei's comment in the latest episode about how many claims to the throne there are now - 5, 6?? LOL!
Well, Tywin is out running the war which is why he sent Tyrion to be Hand in his stead. He will show up later in this season, I assume. And yeah, Stannis is important, as are Theon and his family. It's all setup, which for the unitiated to the books might get a little confusing. It was actually my main concern prior to the series. Believe it or not, they have pared down the incidental characters significantly. Going forward, many of the new families, storylines, and characters will be around and important for some time. It's just these intros...
I really like how they are playing Melisandre - that is more or less how I envisioned her while reading.
Quote from: Rico on April 10, 2012, 03:34:09 PM
Yeah, all of a sudden this Stannis guy is really important - and the lady with the red hair. Whatever happened to daddy Lannister? Tywin?? I guess one of the issues that is starting to show up is there are A LOT of groups vying for power. In season one it seemed to just focus mainly on the Lannister's and the Stark's. I enjoyed Cersei's comment in the latest episode about how many claims to the throne there are now - 5, 6?? LOL!
Season one was pretty much about the Lanisters, Baretheons, Starks, and Dany's family.
Season two still is about the same major families, but there are just more of them and the people that work for them. It will begin to make sense, but the confusion you are feeling seems right because that's how the people are feeling about all of these sudden kings.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 10, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
I really like how they are playing Melisandre - that is more or less how I envisioned her while reading.
Is that the red headed woman? She is freaky! :)
idk, I'm keeping up most of the time and I haven't read the books. I think the only confusion I had was the new King and red-headed woman and what their allegiance is and blah blah blah.
That said, going pretty good.
King
Quote from: Rico on April 10, 2012, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 10, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
I really like how they are playing Melisandre - that is more or less how I envisioned her while reading.
Is that the red headed woman? She is freaky! :)
Yes, that is the one. They have taken a few liberties with her. She will be an important character going forward.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 10, 2012, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Rico on April 10, 2012, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 10, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
I really like how they are playing Melisandre - that is more or less how I envisioned her while reading.
Is that the red headed woman? She is freaky! :)
Yes, that is the one. They have taken a few liberties with her. She will be an important character going forward.
And her freakiness hasn't even reared its head yet!
OK, I'm most of the way through Ep 1 despite my plans not to bothe with it :)
My main issue is actually trying to remember what happens to a number of characters in season 1. I know they 'went' but I'm stuck trying to remember just where they went. (I assume they're dead but can't recall).
I guess I should try and find a season 1 recap site somewhere since I'm talking TV continuity rather than book.
Hehehehehehehe.
I hope this shows up on Netflix one of these days. Or Hulu.
Will, doubtful, as long as HBO GO is around...
I imagine streaming will never happen. I don't know about the DVDs...can you even get DVDs of the HBO shows like Sopranos or the Wire from Netflix? If those aren't available I'd say that GoT will never happen.
Game Of Thrones season 1 is out on DVD now...
I saw a character in a completely new light in the most recent episode:
[spoiler]Maergry Tyrell - I never thought of her as so calculating and 'experienced'. Thinking back on the books, I suppose this is the right way to portray her - but I was viewing her in a totally different light - one of more innocence. I was off track completely.[/spoiler]
Pete, which one is she?
She is Loris Tyrell's sister:[spoiler]The young lady who was trying to seduce /'convert' Renly - he is more interested in her brother.[/spoiler]
Ah, ok. I thought so but sometimes get lost in the names. Loving the show though!
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 16, 2012, 08:15:11 AM
I saw a character in a completely new light in the most recent episode:
[spoiler]Maergry Tyrell - I never thought of her as so calculating and 'experienced'. Thinking back on the books, I suppose this is the right way to portray her - but I was viewing her in a totally different light - one of more innocence. I was off track completely.[/spoiler]
Well...(major spoiler)[spoiler]Renly's story seems pretty different in the TV show, probably the most changed from the books so far, am I right? I mean in the books...not gay and therefore not involved with the Knight of Flowers meaning no real reason for Margaery to be so calculating, and I thought that Renly actually dies very early on in Clash of Kings. Or am I misremebering? I read the books in such quick succession that I'm having a hard time remembering what happened in which book.[/spoiler]
I'm having the same issue with remembering what happend in which book.
[spoiler]
As I remember it Renly is gay in the books, it's just not as blatant as they are making it appear on the show.
[/spoiler]
Regarding Renly -
[spoiler]They do hint in later books that the is having an affair of sorts with Loris. At one point when Jaime Lannister is talking to him, he mentions it pretty directly in I think book 4 - not certain about the book number.[/spoiler]
Regarding Renly, (still major spoilers herein) [spoiler]certainly don't mean to harp on his sexual preference but I guess it just flew over my head during my reading. I also remember distinctly on other websites during season one there being some discussion about it being a surprise to others that the character is gay. If it is a change i think it's a good one and brings more depth to his relationships and overall character arc, as well as Loras's. Honestly i can't wait to see what Melisandre does to him, should be awesome visually.[/spoiler]
Ok, I'm still mixed about this season but it's getting more interesting. I like the big woman warrior Breanne (name?). And Tyrion still makes it worth watching each week. By far my favorite character.
I love it still. Brienne of Tarth is a cool character, and you see much more of her going forward (at least in the books).
Good but the season has definitely been a bit talky thus far.
I was a bit cool on Brienne in the books. They spend alot of time with her in Feast for Crows when I'd rather be reading about other things but that was just me I think. [spoiler]Looking forward to seeing her interaction with Jaime develop later on.[/spoiler]
Regarding Brienne:
[spoiler]I always got the impression from the books that she is rather dim-witted, yet honorable to a fault. A big lummox of sorts. There is that cliff hanger with her at the end of Book 4 with a surprise unexplained reappearance in book 5. Anxious to see what becomes of her.[/spoiler]
Not reading spoilers. Nope - not doing it.
Quote from: Rico on May 04, 2012, 05:51:41 PM
Not reading spoilers. Nope - not doing it.
ha ha sorry I know it's tempting. Just read the books Rico they are awesome
It s nice to have the background of what's going on in my head while watching...I imagine all the different locales and characters might be tough for some. BUT I wish I didn't know everything...then the show would be even better!
Wow - eventful episode!
[spoiler]I think they are departing from the story. I don't recall the dragons being stolen like that. Sir Roderic was killed by Ramsey Snow\Bolton in battle, not executed by Theon.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 06, 2012, 07:07:20 PM
Wow - eventful episode!
[spoiler]I think they are departing from the story. I don't recall the dragons being stolen like that. Sir Roderic was killed by Ramsey Snow\Bolton in battle, not executed by Theon.[/spoiler]
Yes, they are deviating a bit. But I think the outcome will ultimately be the same.
Quote from: QuadShot on April 16, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
Pete, which one is she?
She is the wife of Renly, and the sister of Sir Loris Tyrell
Great episode last night, but more departures from the book.
[spoiler]The one bit I didn't like was when they had Jaime kill his cousin, which didn't occur in the book. I don't see what that buys us. If anything, in book 2 Jaime's motivations are actually made clearer, and he becomes somewhat more sympathetic. IMHO. [/spoiler]
Some nasty business in this season and the most recent episode. I'm starting to have mixed feelings again about this series.
[spoiler]I have to say, I'm not enjoying this season that much. In fact, it's become a bit of a chore to watch the latest episode. Everyone just seems so darn nasty and messed up - with just a few exceptions. And the end of this recent episode with the burned bodies of those kids!?! Yeah, I don't think it's the Stark kids - but still - nasty. Picking on children? Just not very honorable - even in war.[/spoiler]
Westeros is a great place to read about, but a terrible place to live..
[spoiler]Yeah, those bodies were a shock, that is for certain. That does happen in the book. It shows how low Theon has fallen. It is a cruel world that GRRM writes about. You are right, there are very few redeeming characters. But, those you despise now, may find redemption, and the other way round.
I hated seeing Jaime Lanister kill his cousin in the cage. That didn't happen in the book. It makes him look like a raving insane beast.[/spoiler]
It's a shame...[spoiler]that there's never any serious thought that the bodies could possibly be Bran and Rick. Reading the book I remember getting so upset and angry that I had to put it down and step away for a few days before I could continue reading. I called a friend of mine who had read them all and bitterly complained at how devastated I was, and he was so cruel and tortured me with lies until I finally picked up and read further. Even then I think it's a couple of chapters before they reveal the deception. They didn't seem to even try to make you think that Bran and Rick were ever caught by Theon in the show. A missed opportunity IMO.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 17, 2012, 05:48:15 AM
It's a shame...[spoiler]that there's never any serious thought that the bodies could possibly be Bran and Rick. Reading the book I remember getting so upset and angry that I had to put it down and step away for a few days before I could continue reading. I called a friend of mine who had read them all and bitterly complained at how devastated I was, and he was so cruel and tortured me with lies until I finally picked up and read further. Even then I think it's a couple of chapters before they reveal the deception. They didn't seem to even try to make you think that Bran and Rick were ever caught by Theon in the show. A missed opportunity IMO.[/spoiler]
Given the format ...
[spoiler]I thought about that too, but how do you pull that off on tv? [/spoiler]
Quote from: X on May 17, 2012, 05:50:28 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 17, 2012, 05:48:15 AM
It's a shame...[spoiler]that there's never any serious thought that the bodies could possibly be Bran and Rick. Reading the book I remember getting so upset and angry that I had to put it down and step away for a few days before I could continue reading. I called a friend of mine who had read them all and bitterly complained at how devastated I was, and he was so cruel and tortured me with lies until I finally picked up and read further. Even then I think it's a couple of chapters before they reveal the deception. They didn't seem to even try to make you think that Bran and Rick were ever caught by Theon in the show. A missed opportunity IMO.[/spoiler]
Given the format ...
[spoiler]I thought about that too, but how do you pull that off on tv? [/spoiler]
I think it could quite easily have been done...[spoiler]with just a few cuts of Bran and Rick in the woods, flash cut to Theon and the dogs behind, you know, pretty simple with a bit of effort to make it appear they've been caught. Then next episode or whenever they decide to reveal the deception they could flash back or reveal it some other way. Perhaps the show's producers thought it would be just too cruel to jerk people around but that doesn't seem to jibe with the way they seemed to take glee in surprises like Eddard's beheading and Bran's flight out the window last season. Maybe they just miscalculated and really were trying to fool people, but didn't realize how obvious the deception was.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 17, 2012, 05:11:52 AM
Some nasty business in this season and the most recent episode. I'm starting to have mixed feelings again about this series.
[spoiler]I have to say, I'm not enjoying this season that much. In fact, it's become a bit of a chore to watch the latest episode. Everyone just seems so darn nasty and messed up - with just a few exceptions. And the end of this recent episode with the burned bodies of those kids!?! Yeah, I don't think it's the Stark kids - but still - nasty. Picking on children? Just not very honorable - even in war.[/spoiler]
Rico there's too much to watch and too little time in life to spend forcing yourself to try to enjoy something. If it's not up your alley, there's nothing wrong with that! "Know thyself." I'd still suggest you give the books a try and then perhaps you'd be more tempted to watch the series after.
edit to add: only a minor non specific spoiler [spoiler]the things that bother you about this show continue all through and some would say get worse[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 17, 2012, 05:11:52 AM
Some nasty business in this season and the most recent episode. I'm starting to have mixed feelings again about this series.
[spoiler]I have to say, I'm not enjoying this season that much. In fact, it's become a bit of a chore to watch the latest episode. Everyone just seems so darn nasty and messed up - with just a few exceptions. And the end of this recent episode with the burned bodies of those kids!?! Yeah, I don't think it's the Stark kids - but still - nasty. Picking on children? Just not very honorable - even in war.[/spoiler]
My advice is simple. Run.
If the show follows the books, it's only going to get more intense. If you're having reservations now, it might be better to bow out sooner than later because they don't hold back. This world doesn't try to romanticize the era that they live in. In a lot of cases, the stories are much truer to our own past than we would like to think about. This is a harsh and brutal world where commoners become the play things and pawns in the world of the nobility. No one is safe and nothing is sacred. There is no honor in war and the strength and weakness of honor will play a big role in things to come.
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll probably finish out this season at least and make my choice. I was just hoping for some payback by now - and there hasn't been any. I just don't find watching some of the cruelty they portray on this show fun to watch. I was hoping for more of a balance.
Let me take a screenshot and record this occasion...Chris and I have agreed twice on the same thread!!! Is there something going on with the alignment of the planets today? ;) ;) ;)
Game Of Thrones Theme on eight floppy drives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgfPYetWWJw#ws)
Ergh:
[spoiler]Is it just me or did we suddenly have a bunch of stupid decisions in that last episode? First we have the one Mother release the KingSlayer in the hopes that they'll free her daughters.....ergah...and then we have the King of the North, lay down with some chick because she's kinda hot. That entire scene annoyed me because I saw it coming from a mile away. Oh hey, its no biggie, we're just fighting a war right now and we could potentially use those allies you just threw away. But you have your feelings after all. Look, I know he's the King and he has to screw up sometime, but that just felt out of character.
Didn't like the Mother of Dragons leaving her kids alone. That bothered me, but that storyline otherwise has been good.
That said...its a fairly enjoyable show so far. As long as I can keep the character names straight which has been difficult x_X....
What I have liked is the interactions with Tirion and the rest, that has been really enjoyable to watch, love that character. Even his digs at the King. [/spoiler]
King
[spoiler]Yeah, many of these items went down differently in the book. Regarding the King in the North - Rob - he does something like that in the book, but it is with a daughter of a minor lord who serves Tywin Lanister... This really pisses off the Frey family (the family that own the fortified bridge - and the family he promised to marry into...) which will have repercussions
I don't recall the dragons being kidnapped in the book. But they have to simplify for TV. Tyrion is the best though, isn't he?!.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 22, 2012, 07:12:24 PM
[spoiler]Yeah, many of these items went down differently in the book. Regarding the King in the North - Rob - he does something like that in the book, but it is with a daughter of a minor lord who serves Tywin Lanister... This really pisses off the Frey family (the family that own the fortified bridge - and the family he promised to marry into...) which will have repercussions
I don't recall the dragons being kidnapped in the book. But they have to simplify for TV. Tyrion is the best though, isn't he?!.[/spoiler]
Indeed, Tyrion is the best :)
King
So....
[spoiler]Umm, wow, they really put the action into this episode. I guess it was to make up for the lack of battle scenes so far and this one really delivered.
I am kind of surprised Berathian wasn't killed during any of that. I mean, he was just charging in with little or no support at times, I guess he is one heck of a swordsman.
Also, geez, the Queen there was certainly on a verbal rampage. Think we need to back off the booze there...makes you crazy. ;) But she was all over the Angry spectrum this episode.
Now I want to see what Daddy does to Joffrey...oh please writers, show us him slapping him around like a spoiled child and no one here spoil it!!
I am really curious what happens to Tyrion at this point...I'm guessing he isn't dead from that hit. His character really did well in this episode and it seems he gained some respect.
Good episode, finale is coming up next week.[/spoiler]
King
[spoiler]I thought the explosion of the Wild Fire was spectacular. There were a few changes from the book, but it was stuff that had to be simplified. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 29, 2012, 03:39:26 AM
[spoiler]I thought the explosion of the Wild Fire was spectacular. There were a few changes from the book, but it was stuff that had to be simplified. [/spoiler]
Oh yes! T'was awesome indeedy!
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 29, 2012, 03:39:26 AM
[spoiler]I thought the explosion of the Wild Fire was spectacular. There were a few changes from the book, but it was stuff that had to be simplified. [/spoiler]
Agreed but[spoiler] I was hoping to at least see Tyrion's "trap" from the books included in some way. The battle, in the novels, hinged almost entirely on Tyrion's strategy and I felt this wasn't conveyed as much in the show. They did a good job showing him step up which I'm sure will similarly lead to his feeling slighted and betrayed when Tywin gets all the credit for the victory as it does in the books. But I think they could have done more to show just exactly how much the Lannister's victory was due to Tyrion and his planning and forethought, which in my mind is absolutely critical in explaining what happens with his story in the next novels. Otherwise, though, a fantastic episode which really brought the scenes from the novels to life in a very satisfying way. Reminded me alot of Helms Deep[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Yes, they totally left out the chain that he had built to trap the fleet. I don't recall the tension between the Hound and Tyrion's mercenary henchman. In the books, I believe Tomen was not present in the city at all - but being fostered someplace else at Tyrion's design.
Loved how they showed the attack on Tyrion by Manderly - and how Poderick protected Tyrion. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 29, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
[spoiler]Yes, they totally left out the chain that he had built to trap the fleet. I don't recall the tension between the Hound and Tyrion's mercenary henchman. In the books, I believe Tomen was not present in the city at all - but being fostered someplace else at Tyrion's design.
Loved how they showed the attack on Tyrion by Manderly - and how Poderick protected Tyrion. [/spoiler]
Indeed the whole thing with Cersei/Tommen and Bronn/Sandor Clegane was invented for the show
I pretty much liked this recent episode with the big siege....
[spoiler]I thought they did a fine job of showing how much Tyrion did to hold King's Landing. Between the ships on fire to commanding the troops and then leading them into battle. I haven't read the books but it was obvious without Tyrion the city might have fallen. One thing confused me. Didn't Tywin say in the previous episode he was heading to attack Rob Stark?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 29, 2012, 05:06:35 PM
I pretty much liked this recent episode with the big siege....
[spoiler]I thought they did a fine job of showing how much Tyrion did to hold King's Landing. Between the ships on fire to commanding the troops and then leading them into battle. I haven't read the books but it was obvious without Tyrion the city might have fallen. One thing confused me. Didn't Tywin say in the previous episode he was heading to attack Rob Stark?[/spoiler]
I think...
[spoiler]He was talking about the possibility of Rob Stark attacking Tywin's army while they were moving to defend King's Landing. That's why they wanted to leave swiftly and before Rob could react.
Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, but I'm pretty sure that's what went on.[/spoiler]
King
Ahh, I guess that makes sense. Thanks Tim.
Thought you weren't reading the spoilers Rico! No will power, I get it. ;)
I finally watched this today, have been waiting to see this battle all season. I was not disappointed. George R. R. Martin scripted this one and did a great job paring down the battle for TV. [spoiler]The Hound is a BOSS! Hacking guys in half...just don't invite him to a BBQ he won't stay long. Loved his line "F***the Kingsguard, F*** the City, F*** the King." I may get that embroidered on something. Hooray for making Cersei more evil than in recent episodes. She is really a horrible person. Tyrion ruled, and he did get a bad injury, but in the book it was so nasty. Now he'll have a cool scar. Widfire is da bomb. Looking forward to the finale. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Chris-El on May 31, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
[spoiler]Widfire is da bomb. [/spoiler]
I see what you did thar.
:P
King
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 30, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
Thought you weren't reading the spoilers Rico! No will power, I get it. ;)
Wasn't a spoiler. I was trying to understand what I missed about Tywin from the previous episode.
DOuble check your PVRs for this week's episode, apparently it is 10 minutes longer then normal.
Quote from: billybob476 on June 01, 2012, 05:49:45 AM
DOuble check your PVRs for this week's episode, apparently it is 10 minutes longer then normal.
I imagine it would be, they have a lot of wrap up to do!
Was last season only ten episodes too?
Quote from: Rico on June 01, 2012, 08:29:44 AM
Was last season only ten episodes too?
Yes, it was.
King
This is going to stink waiting so long for the next season...
Think how awesome Storm of Swords is going to be on film though...[spoiler] the adventures of Brienne and Jaime, the fall of Joffrey, Arya in training, Jon Snow meeting some of the more bizarre denizens behind the Wall, the introduction of the Brotherhood Without Banners, and the Red Wedding...[/spoiler] and it's all less than a year away!
Yes indeed about book 3:
[spoiler]I wonder if they will have Tyrions nose off, or just show a scar. They have to hurry up and film before these kids look too old. Looks like they have dropped the Jojen Reed & sister characters with Bran. Wonder what is going to drive them north of the wall in the HBO show?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 01, 2012, 11:05:18 AM
Yes indeed about book 3:
[spoiler]I wonder if they will have Tyrions nose off, or just show a scar. They have to hurry up and film before these kids look too old. Looks like they have dropped the Jojen Reed & sister characters with Bran. Wonder what is going to drive them north of the wall in the HBO show?[/spoiler]
No I actually read that Bran will be meeting his companions next season
http://www.avclub.com/articles/here-are-some-of-the-new-characters-coming-to-game,75763/ (http://www.avclub.com/articles/here-are-some-of-the-new-characters-coming-to-game,75763/)
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 01, 2012, 11:05:18 AM
Yes indeed about book 3:
[spoiler]I wonder if they will have Tyrions nose off, or just show a scar. They have to hurry up and film before these kids look too old. Looks like they have dropped the Jojen Reed & sister characters with Bran. Wonder what is going to drive them north of the wall in the HBO show?[/spoiler]
I think they addressed that this last episode.
[spoiler]I think that they are going to go with the scar. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 01, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
Think how awesome Storm of Swords is going to be on film though...[spoiler] the adventures of Brienne and Jaime, the fall of Joffrey, Arya in training, Jon Snow meeting some of the more bizarre denizens behind the Wall, the introduction of the Brotherhood Without Banners, and the Red Wedding...[/spoiler] and it's all less than a year away!
[spoiler]What about that awesome battle at the Wall? That is going to be some undertaking...mammoths, giants, could be awesome if done right. I wonder how they will end S3, possibly after the Red wedding? I can't remember when that takes place in the book, I read them all in a row until I had the long wait for Dance with Dragons.[/spoiler]
I read all five back to back so I probably am remembering stuff from book 4. I wonder if HBO is paying GRRM massive bonuses to finish books six and seven soon enough so the show doesn't have to go on hiatus after the Dance With Dragons season?
Well, I guess that would be in 4 years...so hopefully it will be out by then! Unless they want to split another season. Of course, many of the events books 4 and 5 happen simultaneously, so that complicates things. I think it's about halfway through Dance with Dragons that time moves past a Feast for Crows.
Right I read somewhere else that Storm of Swords takes up two seasons of the HBO show so he has five years to write two books maybe
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 01, 2012, 08:05:53 PM
Right I read somewhere else that Storm of Swords takes up two seasons of the HBO show so he has five years to write two books maybe
I just do see him pulling that one off.
Odd word choice it seems like you meant to say "just don't see"
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 02, 2012, 08:13:17 AM
Odd word choice it seems like you meant to say "just don't see"
yeah. I meant don't on that one.
right me neither which makes me wonder if HBO will make him an offer he can't refuse and possibly get some ghost writers involved or something.
Ew, ghost writers. I hope not!
Great finale, but I have one question:
[spoiler]Who burned down Winterfell?
I feel sorry for poor Tyrion. Went from being on top of the world to nearly being killed and no public acknowledgement of his achievements. :( Gnarly looking scar too...
Quite a lot of good stuff this episode, undead army being quite awesome to look at. Not really surprised Theon got betrayed by his own men. Dragons got awesome. And..idk, just a really nice ending to the season. Season three looks to be very good. [/spoiler]
King
[spoiler]In the book, Winterfell is burned by Ramsey Snow - the bastard son of Roose Bolton. It seems in the show, it was done by Theon's men after they knocked out Theon - presumably to take Rob's terms - but that wasn't immediately clear.[/spoiler]
Wasn't super happy with the finale. Seemed kind of anti-climatic in some ways.
[spoiler]The Winterfell/Theon stuff just didn't add up to me. Is that how it went down in the books? Twenty men burn the place down?? Where did those 500 men go that were outside the city? And Joffrey is such a little brat. The part I did enjoy was with the Kaleesi and her dragons. Anyway, going to have to decide if this show is really for me when season 3 starts.[/spoiler]
In reply to Rico:
[spoiler]In the book it was more complicated. You are right, to me it was unclear exactly what happened in the show. There is a double-double cross going on in the books that gets Theon out of the castle. A turn-coat then burns the place and blames Theon - who had opened the gates under the condition that he could take the black (join the night's watch). There is a big betrayal brewing that will happen in the 3rd season.[/spoiler]
I loved the ending! It was different enough to remind us that this is not the universe of the books and some things can and do happen differently. It makes the experience of watching more enjoyable because we really don't "know" what's going to happen.
Question about the final scene for those familiar with the books:
[spoiler]Was that mounted rider one of the 'Others' or a re-animated desiccated corpse?[/spoiler]
With season two I'm really feeling like a lot is being left out. Scenes just kind of end and then something else pops up. I'm not sure if they are counting on many people knowing the books well or not. Plus the season had a ton of different stories to follow which means each gets less and less time. Anyway, just some general thoughts.
Quote from: Rico on June 05, 2012, 08:29:04 AM
With season two I'm really feeling like a lot is being left out. Scenes just kind of end and then something else pops up. I'm not sure if they are counting on many people knowing the books well or not. Plus the season had a ton of different stories to follow which means each gets less and less time. Anyway, just some general thoughts.
Yes, I am sympathetic. My friends at the office have trouble following what is going on, and always ask me for clarification. My wife started to watch the first season but became overwhelmed at following the various threads - and lost interest.
It's obviously a huge, sprawling story. And to due it justice in a 10 episode season each year must be nearly impossible. I can see how it can turn many people off. Of course my bigger issue has always been is just how nasty most of the people are in this story. Not sure who I dislike more at this point - Joffrey, Theon, Littlefinger, most of the Lannisters (except Tyrion of course), etc. I was really hoping for some payback this season. Oh, well.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 05, 2012, 08:05:54 AM
Question about the final scene for those familiar with the books:
[spoiler]Was that mounted rider one of the 'Others' or a re-animated desiccated corpse?[/spoiler]
[spoiler] I was thinking it was probably "Coldhands" or whatever it was named in the books, which was why Sam survived the encounter at all.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 05, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
[spoiler] I was thinking it was probably "Coldhands" or whatever it was named in the books, which was why Sam survived the encounter at all.[/spoiler]
[/quote]
[spoiler] I thought that for a moment, but I don't think he appears until book 4. I have read some theories that cold hands is Ben Stark born again..[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 05, 2012, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 05, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
[spoiler] I was thinking it was probably "Coldhands" or whatever it was named in the books, which was why Sam survived the encounter at all.[/spoiler]
[spoiler] I thought that for a moment, but I don't think he appears until book 4. I have read some theories that cold hands is Ben Stark born again..[/spoiler]
[/quote][spoiler]One of the bigger mysteries yet unsolved is what actually happened to Benjen. That theory makes alot of sense[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 05, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 05, 2012, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 05, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
[spoiler] I was thinking it was probably "Coldhands" or whatever it was named in the books, which was why Sam survived the encounter at all.[/spoiler]
[spoiler] I thought that for a moment, but I don't think he appears until book 4. I have read some theories that cold hands is Ben Stark born again..[/spoiler]
[spoiler]One of the bigger mysteries yet unsolved is what actually happened to Benjen. That theory makes alot of sense[/spoiler]
[/quote]I agree with that theory, that's what I've thought when that character first appeared in the books.
Game of Thrones political attack ads, pretty funny, I think the Robb Stark one is the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ao4HVlV7wZU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ao4HVlV7wZU)
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Some Pics from the upcoming Season 3:
http://tv.msn.com/paralleluniverse/game-of-thrones-season-3/photo-gallery/ (http://tv.msn.com/paralleluniverse/game-of-thrones-season-3/photo-gallery/)
Here comes Season Three...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw#ws)
Awesome, a month is too long to wait.
Can't wait. Have to renew HBO now.. ;)
Season one & two recap...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzxOv-KF9do#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzxOv-KF9do#ws)
And a new trailer for season three...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCQnSokNfXY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCQnSokNfXY#ws)
These next two seasons have the best source material in the third book of the series, IMO. Cannot wait...
I just re-added HBO - just for this show.
Game Of Thrones Season 3 - Official Trailer #2 (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4iljcuzjG8#ws)
New trailer. Looks to be so badass. Storm of Swords is my favorite SOIAF book. SO much to look forward to in the next 2 seasons.
I re-read book 3 to prep myself. :)
Looks like a lot of action on multiple fronts from the latest trailer. Joffrey needs to die so badly. I just want to smack his smug, little spoiled face every time I see him on screen.
[spoiler]I agree! He gets his comeuppance in book 3 - although not sure it will make this season since they may split book 3 into 2 seasons.[/spoiler]
Nope - not reading that! You can't make me!! :smilie_nono:
Damn, Pete! You just gonna put that out there!
I am DYING for this to become available on Netflix!
Quote from: Bryancd on March 18, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
I am DYING for this to become available on Netflix!
It probably won't...I don't think HBO shows are on Netflix. The Blurays are very reasonably priced, however.
Quote from: Chris-El on March 18, 2013, 05:09:37 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on March 18, 2013, 04:42:11 PM
I am DYING for this to become available on Netflix!
It probably won't...I don't think HBO shows are on Netflix. The Blurays are very reasonably priced, however.
Yeah, HBO (HBO Go) already has a streaming service for its shows. You just have to have HBO already. They have never expressed any interest in joining Netflix.
I know you guys are talking about streaming via Netflix, but I think you can rent the DVD's of the show.
Wish I could get a monthly subscription to HBO Go - without the need to have cable. I'd gladly pay the monthly HBO rate or a premium.
Same here, I can't imagine they'd really cannibalize sales much.
That's right, I forgot it's an HBO show. Not interested in buying the discs for this, I'll wait, HBO will likely find a way to distribute their content once the show ages a bit.
It will be on iTunes I believe
Edit: or perhaps not, thought I read they were doing more distribution of season three because of the high rate of piracy but now I can't find where I saw that
Quote from: Jobydrone on March 19, 2013, 07:00:57 PM
It will be on iTunes I believe
Edit: or perhaps not, thought I read they were doing more distribution of season three because of the high rate of piracy but now I can't find where I saw that
Last I heard, the CEO/someone important at HBO scoffed the "high rates of piracy" numbers. So it being available on iTunes is news to me.
You can get this through Netflix DVD's. I was thinking of adding it to my Q.
Well I enjoyed Episode 1 of Season 3. Great to be back in Westeros and Easteros.
A few minor changes to the story, but nothing too bad.
[spoiler]It was heartbreaking to see Tyrion dressed down by his father Tywin Lannister.
Seeing a CGI giant in Mance Rayder's camp was really great!
Next week should be really good as Deanrys comes into her own with the unsullied mercenaries.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 01, 2013, 12:41:01 PM
Well I enjoyed Episode 1 of Season 3. Great to be back in Westeros and Easteros.
A few minor changes to the story, but nothing too bad.
[spoiler]It was heartbreaking to see Tyrion dressed down by his father Tywin Lannister.
Seeing a CGI giant in Mance Rayder's camp was really great!
Next week should be really good as Deanrys comes into her own with the unsullied mercenaries.[/spoiler]
This is such a quality show...I really think it is the best hour on television. So happy it's back. I just wonder at what point in book 3 they are ending this season.
There's a pretty logical point about midway though the book to cut off the season :)
I believe GRR Martin refers to it as "RW" so as not to be spoilery.
Quote from: billybob476 on April 01, 2013, 12:52:24 PM
There's a pretty logical point about midway though the book to cut off the season :)
I believe GRR Martin refers to it as "RW" so as not to be spoilery.
Yep that's what I was thinking as well. In fact I'm pretty sure I remember some of the actors talking about RW ending this season during a comic-con panel right after the end of season 2 last year.
I loved the first episode, I felt like when I saw the credits roll last night I had only been watching for 20 minutes or so...it went by so fast! Next week should see us catching up with the characters we didn't see last night...then I imagine once the re-introductions are over, in ep 3 things will get rolling for real.
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 01, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: billybob476 on April 01, 2013, 12:52:24 PM
There's a pretty logical point about midway though the book to cut off the season :)
I believe GRR Martin refers to it as "RW" so as not to be spoilery.
Yep that's what I was thinking as well. In fact I'm pretty sure I remember some of the actors talking about RW ending this season during a comic-con panel right after the end of season 2 last year.
I loved the first episode, I felt like when I saw the credits roll last night I had only been watching for 20 minutes or so...it went by so fast! Next week should see us catching up with the characters we didn't see last night...then I imagine once the re-introductions are over, in ep 3 things will get rolling for real.
Ohhhhh, right. RW. That will be...quite a crazy ending. Folks are gonna freak.
Yep if Rico hasn't quit watching by then, he'll burst a blood vessel after that episode ;)
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 01, 2013, 02:10:52 PM
Yep if Rico hasn't quit watching by then, he'll burst a blood vessel after that episode ;)
That is an understatement! :)
I love how I recognize most of the actors from either Downton Abbey, or Rome (the HBO series).
Who else besides ser Jorah was from downton?
Yep, I'm still with this show. It's actually kind of grown on me over time. The first episode back was paced well I thought. They actually hooked up with a good deal of many of the main characters and stories it seems. I really enjoy watching Daenerys and her story arc. John Snow has an interesting story going too. Joffrey can't die soon enough for me. And of course Tyrion and the reaction on his face when he met with his father was just awesome. I have a feeling that was a big mistake on his father's part. Season seems to be off to a great start.
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 01, 2013, 03:40:49 PM
Who else besides ser Jorah was from downton?
Ygritte. She was in the first season as the maid who wanted to be a secretary.
Quote from: Rico on April 01, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
Yep, I'm still with this show. It's actually kind of grown on me over time. The first episode back was paced well I thought. They actually hooked up with a good deal of many of the main characters and stories it seems. I really enjoy watching Daenerys and her story arc. John Snow has an interesting story going too. Joffrey can't die soon enough for me. And of course Tyrion and the reaction on his face when he met with his father was just awesome. I have a feeling that was a big mistake on his father's part. Season seems to be off to a great start.
Yes, it will be interesting to see the chickens come home to roost this year.
I re read much of the thread and found it funny how Rico kept saying he was going to stop watching during the first two seasons...all valid points of course but I'm glad to see you're still with us! Over the next two seasons you might just get some of the payback you've been hoping for...lots of surprises in store!
I was very close to stopping. But it's kind of got me now and I need to see some payback - badly.
Arrggghh!!!!
Not happy about this!
http://hbowatch.com/peter-dinklage-april-season-four/ (http://hbowatch.com/peter-dinklage-april-season-four/)
[spoiler]Gotcha![/spoiler]
:)
Game of Thrones breaks new Torrenting records on the new season premeire. And no one was surprised heh. And viewership numbers went up 13% So, it was clearly a hit on both ends.
http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/01/game-of-thrones-premier-shatters-torrenting-records-pirates-take-over-the-seven-kingdoms/ (http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/01/game-of-thrones-premier-shatters-torrenting-records-pirates-take-over-the-seven-kingdoms/)
Also, not that we doubted it, but they've been picked up for season 4 (aka book 3, part 2)
http://tvline.com/2013/04/02/game-of-thrones-renewed-season-4/ (http://tvline.com/2013/04/02/game-of-thrones-renewed-season-4/)
Quote from: Chris-El on April 01, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 01, 2013, 03:40:49 PM
Who else besides ser Jorah was from downton?
Ygritte. She was in the first season as the maid who wanted to be a secretary.
I knew I recognized her from somewhere! She's one foxy wildling.
I just this minute finished watching the last 45 minutes of the last episode of Downton...how horribly sad! This writer must absolutely despise poor Mary and the Crowleys in general...he's so mean to them all!
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 02, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: Chris-El on April 01, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 01, 2013, 03:40:49 PM
Who else besides ser Jorah was from downton?
Ygritte. She was in the first season as the maid who wanted to be a secretary.
I knew I recognized her from somewhere! She's one foxy wildling.
I just this minute finished watching the last 45 minutes of the last episode of Downton...how horribly sad! This writer must absolutely despise poor Mary and the Crowleys in general...he's so mean to them all!
Two tragedies in one season was a bit much. Is this the Walking Downton Dead??
Quote from: Chris-El on April 02, 2013, 02:32:00 PM
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 02, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: Chris-El on April 01, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 01, 2013, 03:40:49 PM
Who else besides ser Jorah was from downton?
Ygritte. She was in the first season as the maid who wanted to be a secretary.
I knew I recognized her from somewhere! She's one foxy wildling.
I just this minute finished watching the last 45 minutes of the last episode of Downton...how horribly sad! This writer must absolutely despise poor Mary and the Crowleys in general...he's so mean to them all!
Two tragedies in one season was a bit much. Is this the Walking Downton Dead??
There were actor-related issues with regard to Downton. The person in question decided to leave the show.
Yeah I know. It was just a bummer way to end the season.
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 02, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
I just this minute finished watching the last 45 minutes of the last episode of Downton...how horribly sad! This writer must absolutely despise poor Mary and the Crowleys in general...he's so mean to them all!
OT: My wife and I just started in on Season 3 of Downton. She loves the show and has converted me. Where do you watch them? Is season 3 streaming any place? We have been watching on Amazon, but have to pay for the 3rd season.
We have been waiting for Season 3 on Netflix.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 03, 2013, 03:36:06 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 02, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
I just this minute finished watching the last 45 minutes of the last episode of Downton...how horribly sad! This writer must absolutely despise poor Mary and the Crowleys in general...he's so mean to them all!
OT: My wife and I just started in on Season 3 of Downton. She loves the show and has converted me. Where do you watch them? Is season 3 streaming any place? We have been watching on Amazon, but have to pay for the 3rd season.
Comcast has all three seasons on demand if you have a package that includes Streampix.
Quote from: Bryancd on April 03, 2013, 05:25:03 AM
We have been waiting for Season 3 on Netflix.
More OT on Downton Abbey: You will be waiting a long time, Amazon has an exclusive on the series wrapped up. Vudu will be streaming it through June 8 and then it will only be available on Amazon.
edit to add: PBS was streaming season three for free but that ended at the beginning of March...Amazon Prime requires TV Pass for sesason three which is an extra ten bucks (not sure if that extra ten bucks lasts for the whole year of Prime). I've seen some blogs and websites that were streaming the series as well but I'm pretty sure these were links to the PBS streams and are no longer available but it might be worthwhile to search around
Thanks - I'll have to check Verizon on demand, but I am not optimistic.
I'm afraid to say that I deliberately missed the first ep this time around and fully intend to drop GoT.
I know I said this last time and ended up watching anyway but this time I really, really mean it... honest... I won't watch... probably...
I still haven't gotten around to watching it, though having read the books I don't worry much about spoilers :)
I have Amazon Prime but I don't feel like watching it on my iMac.
Bryan do you have a Roku? Not too expensive and you can get Amazon Prime, Netflix and a lot more services on it.
Quote from: Bryancd on April 03, 2013, 08:12:44 AM
I have Amazon Prime but I don't feel like watching it on my iMac.
So, watch it in bed on your iPad! You can watch Amazon Prime shows with their app on your iPad.
Quote from: Rico on April 03, 2013, 08:30:03 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on April 03, 2013, 08:12:44 AM
I have Amazon Prime but I don't feel like watching it on my iMac.
So, watch it in bed on your iPad! You can watch Amazon Prime shows with their app on your iPad.
LOL! I know but Jamie and I watch it together and that's a little tough. :)
Quote from: billybob476 on April 03, 2013, 08:14:51 AM
Bryan do you have a Roku? Not too expensive and you can get Amazon Prime, Netflix and a lot more services on it.
No, we have Apple TV...silly. :)
Apple TV can't do half the things a Roku box or TIVO can do. Buy some real technology Bryan. ;)
Flame war!!! :D
Quote from: billybob476 on April 03, 2013, 08:46:57 AM
Flame war!!! :D
I can't even argue it because it's true! :) We have had it for 2 years and in general it's all we need but it ceratinly limited relative to Roku but it was really easy to use at the time. I'm waiting ofr a web based browser built into a TV. :)
Can't you stream video from an iPad app to an Apple TV?
OT - but I have come to love our Sony Google TV - it seems to have it all (save for a DVR). The best thing is the remote - which is about the size of a iPod Touch - with a QWERTY keyboard on one side and track pad on the other.
I ended up selling my 2nd gen Apple TV. The means of entering text was painful during a search.
I've read good things about this device: the WD TV Play, really the first set top streaming device that has tempted me to consider buying. I don't really need one since I already have consoles hooked up to the TV with apps for most of what I'd get out of the TV play...but it still seems like a good, cheap alternative
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/review-wd-tv-play-is-a-set-top-box-made-for-streaming-junkies/ (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/review-wd-tv-play-is-a-set-top-box-made-for-streaming-junkies/)
Caught up on latest episode. It was great! I think they are doing a good job following the books. Stannis seemed a little off-character but we'll see how that goes. Love the Jaime/Brienne scenes this episode. At the end scene is that supposed to be Vargo?
The production value on this show has surpassed all my expectations. I'm so impressed. :thumbsup
I think it is Vargo.
Some other thoughts:
[spoiler]I think that the guy freeing Theon is actually Ramsey Snow-Bolton. This part of the story was left until book 5 I think. So look for a betrayal there IMHO.
Stannis is off character - how he pined over Melisandre.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 17, 2013, 06:50:27 AM
I think it is Vargo.
Some other thoughts:
[spoiler]I think that the guy freeing Theon is actually Ramsey Snow-Bolton. This part of the story was left until book 5 I think. So look for a betrayal there IMHO.
Stannis is off character - how he pined over Melisandre.[/spoiler]
Ah yes, [spoiler] my wife also thought that was Ramsay. That makes a lotta sense.
Yes totally..Stannis should be disgusted by his adulterous behavior, not embracing it!
I've been informed that the hand-chopper isn't Vargo, just some new guy they made up, Roose's best hunter or something. I guess they are skipping over the whole bloody mummer thing.
Can't wait for fiery death in Astapor, which I'm assuming will happen next episode. I love how Missandei has been played, how she does her translating--totally spot on (even though they aged her). Good stuff [/spoiler]
Quote from: Praxis on April 18, 2013, 03:55:17 AM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 17, 2013, 06:50:27 AM
I think it is Vargo.
Some other thoughts:
[spoiler]I think that the guy freeing Theon is actually Ramsey Snow-Bolton. This part of the story was left until book 5 I think. So look for a betrayal there IMHO.
Stannis is off character - how he pined over Melisandre.[/spoiler]
Ah yes, [spoiler] my wife also thought that was Ramsay. That makes a lotta sense.
Yes totally..Stannis should be disgusted by his adulterous behavior, not embracing it!
I've been informed that the hand-chopper isn't Vargo, just some new guy they made up, Roose's best hunter or something. I guess they are skipping over the whole bloody mummer thing.
Can't wait for fiery death in Astapor, which I'm assuming will happen next episode. I love how Missandei has been played, how she does her translating--totally spot on (even though they aged her). Good stuff [/spoiler]
The little breaks from the books are nothing egregious, which I love, kinda keeps me from ticking off things on a list. I am very interested to see how they weave in the viewpoints from all the books, since many happened at the same time but a book later and so on. It won't just be adapting Book3 or Book 4 for a season.
Quote from: ChrisMC on April 18, 2013, 05:50:10 AM
Quote from: Praxis on April 18, 2013, 03:55:17 AM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 17, 2013, 06:50:27 AM
I think it is Vargo.
Some other thoughts:
[spoiler]I think that the guy freeing Theon is actually Ramsey Snow-Bolton. This part of the story was left until book 5 I think. So look for a betrayal there IMHO.
Stannis is off character - how he pined over Melisandre.[/spoiler]
Ah yes, [spoiler] my wife also thought that was Ramsay. That makes a lotta sense.
Yes totally..Stannis should be disgusted by his adulterous behavior, not embracing it!
I've been informed that the hand-chopper isn't Vargo, just some new guy they made up, Roose's best hunter or something. I guess they are skipping over the whole bloody mummer thing.
Can't wait for fiery death in Astapor, which I'm assuming will happen next episode. I love how Missandei has been played, how she does her translating--totally spot on (even though they aged her). Good stuff [/spoiler]
The little breaks from the books are nothing egregious, which I love, kinda keeps me from ticking off things on a list. I am very interested to see how they weave in the viewpoints from all the books, since many happened at the same time but a book later and so on. It won't just be adapting Book3 or Book 4 for a season.
WORD. Totally agree. What's best for tv will be different from what's best for the written word.
The end of the last episode shocked me a bit...
[spoiler]Seeing Jamie Lannister get his hand chopped off was a shock. I guess he won't be so good with a sword now. It's weird but when he pushed Bran out the window I hated Jamie but he has become a little sympathetic since then - but just a little.[/spoiler]
Also, I'm getting a bit muddled again with all the different players and things going on at this point since I haven't read the books. They seem to really be jumping from place to place a lot so far this season. Lots going on. Just trying to keep track of it all and all the characters.
Quote from: Rico on April 19, 2013, 08:51:58 AM
The end of the last episode shocked me a bit...
[spoiler]Seeing Jamie Lannister get his hand chopped off was a shock. I guess he won't be so good with a sword now. It's weird but when he pushed Bran out the window I hated Jamie but he has become a little sympathetic since then - but just a little.[/spoiler]
Also, I'm getting a bit muddled again with all the different players and things going on at this point since I haven't read the books. They seem to really be jumping from place to place a lot so far this season. Lots going on. Just trying to keep track of it all and all the characters.
Yeah I've been wondering if the show would be confusing for people who haven't read the books. So many characters and limited screen time. It's much easier to track in the books.
And about that scene:
[spoiler] Yes shocking eh? :) The hand-chopping is particularly devastating in the book because you see repeatedly how much of Jaime's identity is wrapped up in his excellence as a fighter. As the Kingslayer he's not getting much love from anyone, but at least he's feared and respected for his skill with the blade. [/spoiler]
Wow, what an episode!
[spoiler]Loved the moment when Daenyrs turns the unsullied loose on the masters. Sad to see the old bear get it, but we knew that was coming. I don't recall that bit about the gagged man in the box that Varys was dealing with - but I do recall him telling Tyrion his story at one point.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 22, 2013, 03:06:16 AM
Wow, what an episode!
[spoiler]Loved the moment when Daenyrs turns the unsullied loose on the masters. Sad to see the old bear get it, but we knew that was coming. I don't recall that bit about the gagged man in the box that Varys was dealing with - but I do recall him telling Tyrion his story at one point.[/spoiler]
Yeah holy cow that episode was amazing!! :metallica:
[spoiler] Whew! Yes Dany's scene was da bomb. Perfect. Gave me chills. I don't remember the spider's gagged sorcerer box either, but that scene was good stuff. I love the part where Lady Olena is making fun of house tyrell's words, so true and funny about "growing strong"...what most fans have probably been thinking :). They are really getting so good at distilling the books down to the essence, doesn't seem crammed or forced at all, they even have room to fit in those unnecessary but very fun bits of soiaf flavor (like olena's scene i mentioned). Tywin's scene with Cersei was great. Looking forward to Beric vs Hound.[/spoiler]
Yeah, this latest episode really made me love this series. I had a hard time with this show at first but I'm glad I stayed with it. Really some great stuff going on now. Daenyrus has become quite the leader.
Another great episode last night!
[spoiler]I almost felt sorry for Cersei! This was more of a build up episode. We should get more action next week. They must be planning to cut this season off at the halfway mark for book 3 - there is too much more ground to cover in the remaining episodes.
[/spoiler]
Yes, an exposition episode, which is needed for what's to come. Diana Rigg continues to be great as Oleanna Tyrell. I bet she wins an Emmy this year.
Yeah, very good episode:
[spoiler]
So many great scenes, and my favorite was probably the one with Dany and Grey Worm. A really good one to pull direct from the book.
In that one short dungeon scene they managed to make both Davos and Shireen more likeable than in the books. I like that Shireen in the show comes across as sweet and smart as opposed to just pitiable.
Well, it's looking like Patchface might not turn out to be very important after all, since he is omitted in the show. I like the homage to him with his creepy song in the end credits!!!
I agree, Olenna is awesome.
Yeah that scene with Cersei, Tyrion, and Tywin was so good. Cersei's turn from smug to horrified was well done.[/spoiler]
Loved the latest episode too. Some great stuff. I have a question. Without giving away any details, do the books ever skip ahead in time? Something like, three years have now passed in Westeros. The reason I ask is it seems to me some of the younger characters will need to grow up a little faster at some point, I assume.
As far as I remember, they do not.
I don't think so. In fact, the most recent book goes BACK in time, to before the ending of the fourth book if I recall correctly. I think a bigger problem will be the younger kids aging too quickly. The actor who plays Bran in particular looks nearly unrecognizable this season as he seems to have hit pubery during the break. At first I thought it was a different actor!
Hmm, interesting. I just can't little Arya Stark ever growing up fast enough to get her revenge.
Quote from: Rico on April 24, 2013, 05:47:24 AM
Yeah, this latest episode really made me love this series. I had a hard time with this show at first but I'm glad I stayed with it. Really some great stuff going on now. Daenyrus has become quite the leader.
So Rico, a question for you now that some of the payback you were looking for has been realized (spoilers only up to current episode):
[spoiler]Since we've seen the downfall of Jaime Lannister and witnessed him at the lowest point of his life, do you feel differently than you thought you would at this during season one? The series is clearly taking great pains to change the way you feel about the man, and to even root for him now. Are you able to contextualize his crimes from season one any differently or do you still hate him as much as you always did?[/spoiler]
Good question Joby. They are definitely trying to change how you feel about some of the characters...
[spoiler]While, yes I can feel for Jamie a little I would never be able to forgive him for what he did to Bran. He has a long way to go to make up for past sins. Same is maybe even more true for Cersei. And Joffrey still just needs to die. All I want to do is smack his little spoiled face around. LOL![/spoiler]
Good question and answer.
Moral grayness is one of the coolest aspects of soiaf.
Ages: Even from the first season it seemed like they started with many of the characters a bit aged-up, I assume for practical reasons. Including the entire Stark family.
Yeah it is very striking how much older Arya and Bran are looking lately!
Good episode - but some deviation from the books.
[spoiler]That bit about Melisandre taking Renly away was not in the books. There was another character - Edric - who was also an illegitimate son of King robert that she was after. I wonder if the onion knight will save Renly like he saved Edric>
The most interesting thing about last night was Melisandre's encounter with Arya Stark. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 06, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
Good episode - but some deviation from the books.
[spoiler]That bit about Melisandre taking Renly away was not in the books. There was another character - Edric - who was also an illegitimate son of King robert that she was after. I wonder if the onion knight will save Renly like he saved Edric>
The most interesting thing about last night was Melisandre's encounter with Arya Stark. [/spoiler]
[spoiler] She didn't take Renly away, she took took Gendry away. He looks a lot like Renly, but Renly was killed by the red witch [/spoiler]
Quote from: Praxis on May 01, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
Good question and answer.
Moral grayness is one of the coolest aspects of soiaf.
Ages: Even from the first season it seemed like they started with many of the characters a bit aged-up, I assume for practical reasons. Including the entire Stark family.
Yeah it is very striking how much older Arya and Bran are looking lately!
From what I recall, they aged everyone up based on Danni's need to be an adult for all of the stuff that happens to her. Everyone was aged to match and thus the age difference. Also, the length of time that Robert was King was also increased. I think that they added 3 years to each of the characters so that it would be more palatable for the viewers. Everyone outside of that seems to be aging as they are entering the story. So from the beginning, it's kind of a parallel world where things started off different.
Quote from: X on May 06, 2013, 01:36:20 PM
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 06, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
Good episode - but some deviation from the books.
[spoiler]That bit about Melisandre taking Renly away was not in the books. There was another character - Edric - who was also an illegitimate son of King robert that she was after. I wonder if the onion knight will save Renly like he saved Edric>
The most interesting thing about last night was Melisandre's encounter with Arya Stark. [/spoiler]
[spoiler] She didn't take Renly away, she took took Gendry away. He looks a lot like Renly, but Renly was killed by the red witch [/spoiler]
You are right, I twisted the names by mistake.
Quote from: X on May 06, 2013, 01:42:56 PM
Quote from: Praxis on May 01, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
Good question and answer.
Moral grayness is one of the coolest aspects of soiaf.
Ages: Even from the first season it seemed like they started with many of the characters a bit aged-up, I assume for practical reasons. Including the entire Stark family.
Yeah it is very striking how much older Arya and Bran are looking lately!
From what I recall, they aged everyone up based on Danni's need to be an adult for all of the stuff that happens to her. Everyone was aged to match and thus the age difference. Also, the length of time that Robert was King was also increased. I think that they added 3 years to each of the characters so that it would be more palatable for the viewers. Everyone outside of that seems to be aging as they are entering the story. So from the beginning, it's kind of a parallel world where things started off different.
Yeah, in the books, a lot of awful and adult stuff happens to 14 and 15 year-olds. In the end, it won't matter much if Arya is 18 or 14 when things happen.
As a fan of the books, I love these glimpses into unseen stuff, like the Bastard of Bolton and Theon.
Painfully waiting :taz :juggle for the wife to have enough free time to watch the latest episode together. Can't wait to click on these spoiler tags :) !!!
Just finished watching this weeks episode:
[spoiler]Some departures from the book. Rob Stark's queen being pregnant - I fear this means she will be a guest at the upcoming red wedding...
Not sure what is going to happen to Gendry..I imagine that the Onion Knight will somehow rescue him as he rescued Edric Storm.
Only 3 episodes left - I would guess the Red Wedding and Joffrey's wedding will be the last episode of this season.
I almost felt sorry for Theon Greyjoy is this episode![/spoiler]
Caught up with last week's episode (not the new one last night), loved it.
[spoiler]Wow, they are making Joffrey even DARKER... That was shocking. My wife and I had our mouths open. I love how the show still has the capacity to surprise fans of the books while still being true to the books.[/spoiler]
I'll have to wait a few days before clicking your spoiler tag bromptonboy :)
Another good episode:
[spoiler]The final 2 episodes for this season are going to be action packed. I think they have to stop at the Red Wedding and Joffrey's wedding.
They will most likely move the Jon Snow story line along up at the wall.
Loved how they showed the death of the Other at Sam's hands. I wonder if they will get Bran under the wall this season. Hope so, that actor is growing fast.[/spoiler]
Yeah, with recent events and Robb's Queen being a totally different person, it's become it's own story. While some things are similar to the books, this is it's own separate universe with lots of surprises for even the avid readers of the series.
Quote from: X on May 20, 2013, 07:13:44 AM
Yeah, with recent events and Robb's Queen being a totally different person, it's become it's own story. While some things are similar to the books, this is it's own separate universe with lots of surprises for even the avid readers of the series.
Yes - I think they are doing a good job at presenting the books. I am disappointed we won't see all of book 3 this season - and hate to have to wait another year for the 2nd half.. :(
Gonna catch up on the latest ep tonight. woot
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 20, 2013, 06:45:28 AM
Another good episode:
[spoiler]The final 2 episodes for this season are going to be action packed. I think they have to stop at the Red Wedding and Joffrey's wedding.
They will most likely move the Jon Snow story line along up at the wall.
Loved how they showed the death of the Other at Sam's hands. I wonder if they will get Bran under the wall this season. Hope so, that actor is growing fast.[/spoiler]
I can't decide [spoiler]which bloody wedding I'm looking forward to more. This is gonna be good.
The latest ep was awesome. But Samwell!! Pick up the dagger! ;D
[/spoiler]
Enjoyed the most recent episode. Tyrion is still by far my favorite.
[spoiler]LOVED the part where Tyrion insulted Joffrey's 'manhood' at the wedding reception. So many stories going on. And that red lady is nasty! Leeches! Yuck!!! Was that some kind of curse they used them for??
[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 23, 2013, 05:23:58 AM
Enjoyed the most recent episode. Tyrion is still by far my favorite.
[spoiler]LOVED the part where Tyrion insulted Joffrey's 'manhood' at the wedding reception. So many stories going on. And that red lady is nasty! Leeches! Yuck!!! Was that some kind of curse they used them for??
[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Yes - he has named each of the 'other' kings as he throws the leeches into the fire: Joffrey, Rob Stark, and Euron Greyjoy (Theon's dad)[/spoiler]
Yeah the Tyrion scenes in the latest were fantastic.
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/game-of-thrones-q-a-gwendoline-christie-on-the-education-of-brienne-of-tarth-20130522 (http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/game-of-thrones-q-a-gwendoline-christie-on-the-education-of-brienne-of-tarth-20130522)
By Sean T. Collins
May 22, 2013 2:05 PM ET
Gwendoline Christie as Brienne of Tarth in 'Game of Thrones'
Helen Sloan/HBO
With the possible exception of the bear she battled, it's tough to think of a performer on Game of Thrones more perfect for the part they're playing than Gwendoline Christie as the towering, glowering Brienne of Tarth. At 6'3", she captures the sword-wielding maiden's imposing physicality. But it's her willingness to totally ditch the sex appeal and glamour of virtually every other character on the show and embody Brienne's lonely life as an outcast, clinging to a moral code it often seems she alone upholds, that makes her a justified fan favorite. To hear Christie tell it, Brienne's recent experiences with Jaime Lannister (played by Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) are opening up new paths of exploration in a part she's been dying to play since before she even knew it existed.
This is the first time I've interviewed an actor who moved me to tears in the last thing I saw them in.
Wow, was it that bad? [Laughs] No, I'm really touched. What was it?
When you said "Goodbye, Ser Jaime."
I'm really, really, deeply touched, I really am, because it's marvelous to hear when your work touches someone. But it's so much more than me – it's the writers, it's the writing, it's the director, it's the cinematography, and it's the brilliance of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau.
'Game of Thrones' Q&A: Nikolaj Coaster-Waldau on the Hand of the Kingslayer
A lot of the impact came from seeing Brienne treat a person with kindness who's not used to being treated that way, but it's also that in doing so, she was letting her own guard down.
In that moment, she recognizes him as a man rather than a monster. I'm so pleased that that came across, that she wants to give him the respect that she feels that he deserves, to be recognized as a man and worthy of the title of "Ser" as well. I don't think he's experienced that for a very long time.
Brienne is very focused on a moral code, on the good of the world around her and what is right. But in their bathtub scene, she recognizes his humanity, and his own struggle with what it is to be honorable. She's also seeing something of him in her – she's seeing his striving for the good of all, to an extent. It's a revelatory moment. It really expands Brienne's mind, shows her not to regard everything as being quite so black and white. We start to see the complexity of a person's mind developing.
Nikolaj described Jaime's time with Brienne in much the same way. She's shown him something outside the closed systems of the Lannisters and the Kingsguard.
They're quite similar people in terms of their psychology and their lives. They found a kind of symmetry, somehow. A kinship. Brienne has certainly never had a relationship with a man like Jamie. I mean, in terms of physical proximity and what they share emotionally, this is the closest she's ever been with any man that she's not been related to certainly, but probably with any man, full stop. For the pair of them, there's a moment of enormous expansion where everything they've regarded as normal and set in stone prior is changed, and there's a multitude of possiblities.
Is romance one of those possibilities?
Do I think they will get together? [Laughs] I mean, it's very . . . The world of Game of Thrones, the world that George R.R. Martin has created and that Dan [Weiss] and David [Benioff]'s translation adapts brilliantly, is a world that's never straightforward. I genuinely have moments of absolutely no idea. I don't even know if I want them to, because what they're experiencing is a bond that is quite unusual and quite pure bond. He did come back and save her life, which is enormous. I think it makes us examine a lot of possibilities and angles of what love is, and what love makes us capable of.
And Brienne is a virgin and Jamie has only slept with his sister, so . . . [Laughs]. We're looking at two highly unusual individuals. I don't think that anyone genuinely can predict the way in which their relationship will go in any regard. Genuine and true love is so rare that when you encounter it in any form, it's a wonderful thing, to be utterly cherished in whatever form it takes.
I enjoy asking these questions about shipping, because it's absolutely one of the pleasures of fiction. But I worry that it flattens the range of intimacy that is available to human beings. To force it all into a romantic or sexual framework is to deny a lot of human experience.
Yeah. But at the same time, we wll want to see the impossible actually happen, to see these two extraordinary characters reach that amazing stage. Everyone's a sucker for some love and romance and whatever that may bring. But with those two? Lord knows. [Laughs] I mean, he couldn't even say goodbye to her! He just kind of nods and looks at the floor and leaves. If anything, it's the virgin that's making great strides. [Laughs]
You've spoken very frankly about how your unusual height has affected your life, and some of your modeling work seems to touch on this as well – taking ownership of your physical body. Brienne has struggled with her physicality as well. She's gone a different road, obviously – she's a warrior, not an actor – but I wonder if you see overlap between her and yourself.
Absolutely. That's why I wanted to play the part so much. I never thought I'd ever come across a part like this. I was always told about this in drama school, that occasionally you might come across a part where you say, "Yeah, I know that. I know it. I don't have to pretend to try and get there. I know this." As soon as I read about the character, I had to play it.
And it's a character that we don't see that often. I'm certainly really rather tall at 6 foot 3, and I've been this way since I was 14, but for years women who are even 5 foot 10 have come up to me in the street and said, "Oh, it's so nice to see a woman who is taller than me. I've always felt like a giant." They describe it to me like outsiders. It sounds a bit worthy, but I genuinely feel that as an actor part of my job is to highlight those recesses of human life and human psychology that we don't see that often. And if I have the opportunity, which I very luckily have, to play the part of an outsider, then I felt like I might be doing some good. Occasionally I get messages from women saying that I've brought them some joy, and that's unbelievably thrilling.
An additional wrinkle for Brienne is that she's pretty much universally seen as ugly. When you're made up to look that way, when you change your hair and your demeanor and your physicality to look that way, does it change how you feel?
Yeah, totally. As a woman, we all want to feel attractive. We all want to feel that we're making the very best of ourselves so we can accept ourselves. It's like all of these gorgeous, devastatingly beautiful actresses in the show, and then there's me harrumphing around. [Laughs] So it can be tough to look like that.
But you have to step outside of that and think about what these things really mean. I am still a person with a sense of superficiality that I'm trying to challenge. I hope that it makes us examine exactly what "unattractive" is. Perhaps it's not the conventions that we have or the blueprint in our minds. And if it makes people question for a minute what unattractive is, and the way in which we may respond as people to what we think unattractive is, then it's worthwhile.
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'Game of Thrones' Producer Discusses Series End
Frank Doelger charts number of seasons for hit HBO show
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By RJ CUBARRUBIA
May 17, 2013 1:55 PM ET
Frank Doelger
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Seven books, seven seasons – that's the hope for Game of Thrones producer Frank Doelger. The HBO series based on George R.R. Martin's fantasy novel series A Song of Ice and Fire has its sights set on seven seasons, which would match the number of planned entries in the book series.
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"[The number of series] is being discussed as we speak. The third season was the first half of book three, season four will be the second part of book three. . . George R.R. Martin has written books four and five; six and seven are pending," Doelger told Radio Times at the BAFTA Awards last weekend. "I would hope that, if we all survive and if the audience stays with us, we'll probably get through to seven seasons."
Seven seasons would create a potentially awkward timeline for Game of Thrones: Season Three and Season Four split the series' third novel, A Storm of Swords, into two parts, meaning one future season might have to pack in two books' worth of material to make the fit.
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Arrgh! Hate missing a week due to a holiday!
Arrrggh! George keep writing the main novels!! Please!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/new-game-of-thrones-book-_n_3200498.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/new-game-of-thrones-book-_n_3200498.html)
George R.R. Martin/Game of Thrones-series fans will either be angry or overjoyed at HarperCollins' recent announcement: the 'A Song of Ice and Fire' author will be coming out with a new book in December, The Wit and Wisdom of Tyrion Lannister.
HarperCollins confirmed this last night at their showcase of fall book titles.
The new book will apparently be a compilation of Martin's favorite of the beloved character's witty musings. Our own favorite (we even shared it on our Facebook page): "A mind needs books as a sword needs a whetstone if it is to keep its edge."
For those of you who are only vaguely familiar with the series, Tyrion Lannister, who is played by Peter Dinklage in the HBO adaptation, is the youngest of the super wealthy Lannisters. He is constantly criticized and belittled by his family, yet he is by far the nicest and most empathetic of them.
George R.R. Martin fans tend to get pretty upset when he's doing anything other than writing the next book, The Winds of Winter, in his popular series. One person called this new endeavor "the equivalent of a Christmas album."
However, seeing as Tyrion says so many hilarious, charming, smart things, considering how popular he is, and as George R.R. Martin may use the opportunity to add further insight to his character and perhaps the series in this upcoming book, we can see fans going either way.
Cool, thanks for posting the info. That would be great to have 7 seasons of the show. Even though book 3 is taking 2 seasons already, I think this can work because later in the series I think there is more tangential stuff that is cuttable. Like the entire Quentyn Martell storyline.
Lols at the Tyrion quotes book. Seriously...... ::)
I mean, more stuff is cool, but this is something that would be cool AFTER the series is written. I don't think GRRM necessarily "owes" us anything but c'mon man, write! :P
I always think of Stephen King's wake up call with finishing Dark Tower when he had the brush with his mortality.
I guess that Martin let the producers in on how things are going to be wrapped up, so they could actually have the end out before the books. Weird.
I doubt this Tyrion book has really taken much of his time up. Creative types need a break sometimes from projects to recharge. You can't always just sit down and say, "time to write now." Not quite that simple.
I have read a few articles about his ideas for a 10 - 12 prequel novellas that take place about 100 years before our time frame in Westeros. That sounds great, but I want him to keep his eye on the ball with the main novel series.
[spoiler]He better have written down in a safe someplace who Jon Snow's real parents are! I am convinced that he is the son of Eddard's sister and prince Rhaegar. And that the thing that Ned 'promised' his sister on her death bed, was to take care of Jon... That would also make Jon the 3rd head of the Dragon that Daenyrs is looking for..[/spoiler]
Pete - You might want to spoiler enclose that section about John Snow. For those of us just watching the TV series, I don't think that has come up yet.
Quote from: Rico on May 29, 2013, 09:52:17 AM
Pete - You might want to spoiler enclose that section about John Snow. For those of us just watching the TV series, I don't think that has come up yet.
Right! Modified.
Of course Jon Snow's origins are a complete mystery...it's mostly fan speculation. But Pete's theory is the top one.
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Quote from: Rico on May 29, 2013, 09:52:17 AM
Pete - You might want to spoiler enclose that section about John Snow. For those of us just watching the TV series, I don't think that has come up yet.
Right! Modified.
Pete, I totally agree with you on this and I've always thought that. It's also why [spoiler]He never called Jon his son.[/spoiler]
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 29, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Of course Jon Snow's origins are a complete mystery...it's mostly fan speculation. But Pete's theory is the top one.
Speculation true, but there are a bunch of facts in there that push you to that direction. Off the top of my head I can recall three things in the book that pretty much lay it all out, the only thing missing is in story confirmation. I think that the Red Witch might be the one to do that.
Quote from: Rico on May 29, 2013, 09:52:17 AM
Pete - You might want to spoiler enclose that section about John Snow. For those of us just watching the TV series, I don't think that has come up yet.
Actually, everything that Pete brought up was covered in the first season of the show. The speculation isn't covered, but it's not quite a spoiler. All of that stuff happened before Ned died. It was just glossed over as unimportant that they didn't focus on it.
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Quote from: ChrisMC on May 29, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Of course Jon Snow's origins are a complete mystery...it's mostly fan speculation. But Pete's theory is the top one.
Speculation true, but there are a bunch of facts in there that push you to that direction. Off the top of my head I can recall three things in the book that pretty much lay it all out, the only thing missing is in story confirmation. I think that the Red Witch might be the one to do that.
[spoiler]I'm sure this is nothing new, but I have come to think that a Song of Ice and Fire refers to Jon (Ice) and Daenerys (Fire), which is why I am fairly certain, or hopeful, that he did not meet his end in ADOD. (I think we may see some Lord of Light help) The 2 children of Rhaegar Targaryen ruling? [/spoiler]
Much what I am thinking as well.
Oops, [spoiler] Daenerys is The Mad Kings daughter, not Rhaegar's. Duh. If Jon Snow IS Rhaegar's son, he's her nephew. Right. [/spoiler]
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 05:10:49 PM
Oops, [spoiler] Daenerys is The Mad Kings daughter, not Rhaegar's. Duh. If Jon Snow IS Rhaegar's son, he's her nephew. Right. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]The family tree is messed up, but if Jon is Rhaegar's son, then he's the rightful King, as Rhaegar was the crown prince. She would be his Aunt and probably his wife if traditions were followed. He would also be the third child of the crown prince and the third head of the dragon.[/spoiler]
Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 05:10:49 PM
Oops, [spoiler] Daenerys is The Mad Kings daughter, not Rhaegar's. Duh. If Jon Snow IS Rhaegar's son, he's her nephew. Right. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]The family tree is messed up, but if Jon is Rhaegar's son, then he's the rightful King, as Rhaegar was the crown prince. She would be his Aunt and probably his wife if traditions were followed. He would also be the third child of the crown prince and the third head of the dragon.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]The Dragon has 3 heads...and Jon has vowed not to take a crown\family. Cersei has a prophecy about being replaced by a younger and prettier queen.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 30, 2013, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 05:10:49 PM
Oops, [spoiler] Daenerys is The Mad Kings daughter, not Rhaegar's. Duh. If Jon Snow IS Rhaegar's son, he's her nephew. Right. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]The family tree is messed up, but if Jon is Rhaegar's son, then he's the rightful King, as Rhaegar was the crown prince. She would be his Aunt and probably his wife if traditions were followed. He would also be the third child of the crown prince and the third head of the dragon.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]The Dragon has 3 heads...and Jon has vowed not to take a crown\family. Cersei has a prophecy about being replaced by a younger and prettier queen.[/spoiler]
True but...
[spoiler] Jon has forsaken his vows in the last book. I think at this point anything goes. He vowed not to sleep with women and to stay on the wall, but these haven't worked out for him either.[/spoiler]
Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 07:12:21 PM
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Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 05:10:49 PM
Oops, [spoiler] Daenerys is The Mad Kings daughter, not Rhaegar's. Duh. If Jon Snow IS Rhaegar's son, he's her nephew. Right. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]The family tree is messed up, but if Jon is Rhaegar's son, then he's the rightful King, as Rhaegar was the crown prince. She would be his Aunt and probably his wife if traditions were followed. He would also be the third child of the crown prince and the third head of the dragon.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]The Dragon has 3 heads...and Jon has vowed not to take a crown\family. Cersei has a prophecy about being replaced by a younger and prettier queen.[/spoiler]
True but...
[spoiler] Jon has forsaken his vows in the last book. I think at this point anything goes. He vowed not to sleep with women and to stay on the wall, but these haven't worked out for him either.[/spoiler]
AND [spoiler]if he dies his watch has ended, coming back from the dead would be just a technicality.[/spoiler]
Good thought! [spoiler]Yes, if Melisandre raises him, technically he has fulfilled his watch.[/spoiler]
I just finished my 're-listen' of the Book Audiobook (narrator not as talented as Roy Detrice), and have started in again on Book 5.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 31, 2013, 07:37:04 AM
Good thought! [spoiler]Yes, if Melisandre raises him, technically he has fulfilled his watch.[/spoiler]
I just finished my 're-listen' of the Book Audiobook (narrator not as talented as Roy Detrice), and have started in again on Book 5.
Totally. Roy Detrice is so awesome
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 29, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Of course Jon Snow's origins are a complete mystery...it's mostly fan speculation. But Pete's theory is the top one.
Speculation true, but there are a bunch of facts in there that push you to that direction. Off the top of my head I can recall three things in the book that pretty much lay it all out, the only thing missing is in story confirmation. I think that the Red Witch might be the one to do that.
[spoiler]I'm sure this is nothing new, but I have come to think that a Song of Ice and Fire refers to Jon (Ice) and Daenerys (Fire), which is why I am fairly certain, or hopeful, that he did not meet his end in ADOD. (I think we may see some Lord of Light help) The 2 children of Rhaegar Targaryen ruling? [/spoiler]
[spoiler] Agreed. If I remember correctly, Jon's death-wound is described as "smoking" rather than "steaming" which might be a clue to his return (as a head of the dragon?). Maybe he'll be a Coldhands type of fella. hmm. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Praxis on June 02, 2013, 12:10:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 29, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Of course Jon Snow's origins are a complete mystery...it's mostly fan speculation. But Pete's theory is the top one.
Speculation true, but there are a bunch of facts in there that push you to that direction. Off the top of my head I can recall three things in the book that pretty much lay it all out, the only thing missing is in story confirmation. I think that the Red Witch might be the one to do that.
[spoiler]I'm sure this is nothing new, but I have come to think that a Song of Ice and Fire refers to Jon (Ice) and Daenerys (Fire), which is why I am fairly certain, or hopeful, that he did not meet his end in ADOD. (I think we may see some Lord of Light help) The 2 children of Rhaegar Targaryen ruling? [/spoiler]
[spoiler] Agreed. If I remember correctly, Jon's death-wound is described as "smoking" rather than "steaming" which might be a clue to his return (as a head of the dragon?). Maybe he'll be a Coldhands type of fella. hmm. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]or maybe he's going to Warg it and get stuck in Ghost????[/spoiler]
Quote from: Praxis on June 02, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
Totally. Roy Detrice is so awesome
Roy is getting older..I hope the last 2 books are written in time for him to still narrate them.
It's a nice day for a [spoiler]RED WEDDING! Powerful, even though I knew it was coming.[/spoiler]
Quote from: ChrisMC on June 02, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
It's a nice day for a [spoiler]RED WEDDING! Powerful, even though I knew it was coming.[/spoiler]
People need to die. That's all I can say at this point. The new character(s) included in the scene makes it that much more powerful.
Yeah they certainly twisted the knife with those additions.
[spoiler]Yes - once we knew that Rob's wife was pregnant - I knew they would have to have her at the red wedding. That was a brutal and disturbing episode. I knew it was coming, but it still hit me.[/spoiler]
Game of Thrones, in a nutshell.
[spoiler]2 weddings and a funeral in Westeros...[/spoiler]
Interested to hear Rico's thoughts on the last ep.
Love this article about reactions to last night's ep (note: HUGE spoilers and swearing)
http://io9.com/the-100-best-tweets-about-last-nights-game-of-thrones-511003444 (http://io9.com/the-100-best-tweets-about-last-nights-game-of-thrones-511003444)
The episode last night.... Holy S*#@ !
Part of me is sad and a part of me is happy that all the non-readers can now suffer with those that not only had to endure the contents of the episode, but the multi-year wait for the next book.
Thought this would be appropriate.
Game of Thrones - The Rains of Castamere - Full version HD W/ LYRICS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HilAVhm3BqI#ws)
Suffice it to say, I didn't see that episode coming. I mean, wow.
[spoiler]Figured someone would die, but not bloody all of them o_o[/spoiler]
Also, remember that this was not the season finale ... traditionally in most tv shows they save the most powerful things for the last episode of a season.
Quote from: X on June 03, 2013, 09:06:09 PM
Also, remember that this was not the season finale ... traditionally in most tv shows they save the most powerful things for the last episode of a season.
Yes next week we get another wedding I believe, although I couldn't tell from the preview of the next episode. That should be pretty good too! Three weddings in three weeks!
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 04, 2013, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: X on June 03, 2013, 09:06:09 PM
Also, remember that this was not the season finale ... traditionally in most tv shows they save the most powerful things for the last episode of a season.
Yes next week we get another wedding I believe, although I couldn't tell from the preview of the next episode. That should be pretty good too! Three weddings in three weeks!
right. I am really curious to see how it differs from the books.
Good article about the episode at this link - filled with spoilers so I will not copy the text here. Don't click unless you want to be spoiled:
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-game-of-thrones-the-rains-of-castamere-the-man-who-would-be-hodor?utm_source=Outbrain&utm_medium=Outbrain_DesktopCampaign&utm_campaign=Desktop_Female (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-game-of-thrones-the-rains-of-castamere-the-man-who-would-be-hodor?utm_source=Outbrain&utm_medium=Outbrain_DesktopCampaign&utm_campaign=Desktop_Female)
Just watched the latest episode. Holy crap!
Quote from: Rico on June 05, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Just watched the latest episode. Holy crap!
Welcome to Westeros, now that the fun is over, it's time to get serious.
Yeah - you said it. But,...
[spoiler]I'm back to square one again. This has not been an easy show to watch. Now with most of the Stark side killed off I have no one really left to root for. Arya seems still way too young to be a threat any time soon (same for Bran). Sansa is married off to Tyrion. John Snow is now on the run. Daerynerus (sp?) is doing ok and I'm sure is going to be an important part of the future but I want some payback. It's hard for me to see so many bad people getting away with bad things. Only one more episode this season at least.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Not sure where this season will leave off, but it seems that it might be Joffrey's wedding. If they handle that in the same way as the books, you will have someone to root for. The Starks seem to be like Redshirts![/spoiler]
What I am wondering is....
[spoiler]if some characters switch alliances at some point. Like Jamie or Tyrion. Don't tell me for sure, but something has to change at this point it seems.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on June 06, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
What I am wondering is....
[spoiler]Jaime becomes a more sympathetic character after the loss of his hand, and starts behaving with more honor. I won't say anything about tyrion yet - as I don't know how the final episode will do down yet.[/spoiler]
Quote from: ChrisMC on June 02, 2013, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: Praxis on June 02, 2013, 12:10:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 30, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: X on May 30, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 29, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Of course Jon Snow's origins are a complete mystery...it's mostly fan speculation. But Pete's theory is the top one.
Speculation true, but there are a bunch of facts in there that push you to that direction. Off the top of my head I can recall three things in the book that pretty much lay it all out, the only thing missing is in story confirmation. I think that the Red Witch might be the one to do that.
[spoiler]I'm sure this is nothing new, but I have come to think that a Song of Ice and Fire refers to Jon (Ice) and Daenerys (Fire), which is why I am fairly certain, or hopeful, that he did not meet his end in ADOD. (I think we may see some Lord of Light help) The 2 children of Rhaegar Targaryen ruling? [/spoiler]
[spoiler] Agreed. If I remember correctly, Jon's death-wound is described as "smoking" rather than "steaming" which might be a clue to his return (as a head of the dragon?). Maybe he'll be a Coldhands type of fella. hmm. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]or maybe he's going to Warg it and get stuck in Ghost????[/spoiler]
ooo, that'd be cool
Wouldn't it? They certainly are setting it up more and more, especially in the last episode of the show.
Quote from: Rico on June 06, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
What I am wondering is....
[spoiler]if some characters switch alliances at some point. Like Jamie or Tyrion. Don't tell me for sure, but something has to change at this point it seems.[/spoiler]
Much like real life, everything in shades of gray.....
Just like Bob Dylan says, the times, they are are-a changin'. Not too many characters behave the way you expect them to in this series. Huge changes on the way for key players in the next 2 seasons.
Quote from: ChrisMC on June 06, 2013, 05:00:14 PM
Wouldn't it? They certainly are setting it up more and more, especially in the last episode of the show.
I really like how they've condensed/simplified supernatural things for the show. Like how warging works, also combining others and wights (it seems) to keep things easy. Works well.
Looks like the finale is going to be pretty cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ4paRnLmWI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ4paRnLmWI#ws)
Hmmm..really wondering where they will leave off from the book.
Good season finale - but honestly, I think they should have reversed the last two episodes.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 09, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
Good season finale - but honestly, I think they should have reversed the last two episodes.
I think that the beat was fitting considering the wait for what's to come and the ramifications of all of this. I wanted more, but I see how my mood is far better at the conclusion this week.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 09, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
Good season finale - but honestly, I think they should have reversed the last two episodes.
I think for the general viewing public it would be a HUGE bummer to end on that, and then have to wait 9 months. This finale was good because it set up the next season very well, without cliffhangers.
I had my teeth set for Joff's wedding as the finale..
[spoiler]I guess they will open with that next season - and with Tyrion's trial & dealing with Tywin as the closer for season 4.
I almost felt sorry for Theon!
My biggest disappointment with the episode was how Bran got under the wall. I wanted to see that door open and see 'cold hands' the guide. Interesting that Sam wasn't sworn to secrecy about Bran being alive..[/spoiler]
I don't understand why Jon...[spoiler]didn't recognize his brother's dire wolves and realize that Bran and Rickon had to be close by. I guess if Samwell spills the beans, with the fate of Westeros threatened by the White Walkers, Jon's oath would prevent him from going after them, but it just felt like a disconnect to me not to address it at all.[/spoiler]
One other disconnect I picked up:
[spoiler]Jon was mounted - albeit wounded - to Castle Black. Sam was several days behind him, and on foot - with Gilley & the baby - and managed to beat Jon back to Castle Black..[/spoiler]
Pretty cool finale for the season. But I'm still waiting for some payback - since season one!
I am so watching this in the off season although I have an odd feeling I might be with Rico on my thoughts about the show.
Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
I am so watching this in the off season although I have an odd feeling I might be with Rico on my thoughts about the show.
It's been probably the hardest series I have ever watched. It breaks all my normal rules for entertainment. Namely - don't mess with kids or animals. Even "The Walking Dead" in a way hasn't been quite this hard to handle for me. Maybe reading the books would have made it easier. But, I feel kind of committed to see it to the end now.
Exactly why I think I will find this a challenge. I recall so distinctly a while back on the podcast when you mentioned that animal abuse, especially dogs, and I was like "I'm out!".
Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2013, 04:58:50 PM
Exactly why I think I will find this a challenge. I recall so distinctly a while back on the podcast when you mentioned that animal abuse, especially dogs, and I was like "I'm out!".
Definitely still give it a try Bryan. I always say everyone should make up their own mind. Heck, I'm still with the show but it ain't been an easy ride.
Rico, not only are they breaking the rules, but aren't you wishing that a certain kid get killed?
Quote from: X on June 10, 2013, 07:10:52 PM
Rico, not only are they breaking the rules, but aren't you wishing that a certain kid get killed?
He isn't a kid by any stretch anymore. Plus like I said previously, I've already broken all my normal rules with this show. It's just the grimmest series I've ever seen.
Well, I would guess living in a medieval-like world as this wouldn't be fun. When I read the books I was upset as I have some of the same issues as you do, but in the end it's still so good that I just accept bad crap will happen to ANYONE at any time. I mean, I'm sure everyone thought that [spoiler]Ned Stark[/spoiler]was the hero of the whole show, and after that unfortunate stuff that [spoiler]Robb would be avenging him[/spoiler]. But Martin loves keeping people off balance, and not getting what we expect or want badly is a big part of what makes this show so different.
As long as..
[spoiler]As long as Tyrion is left alone and survives until book 7 - GRRM and I will not have any problems.[/spoiler]
I can see keeping people off balance, but I keep wondering how entertaining that can be....at least for me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I do like good to win over evil sometime. And, yes I know good and evil are relative terms to a degree. Such as...
[spoiler]I enjoyed the exchange between Tyrion and his father in the finale talking about the lack of honor in killing the Starks at the wedding. I do like that stuff being mentioned in the show.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on June 11, 2013, 05:20:48 AM
I can see keeping people off balance, but I keep wondering how entertaining that ca be....at least for me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I do like good to win over evil sometime. And, yes I know good and evil are relative terms to a degree.
Yes, no sacred cows so far in this series. I find it tough to see characters of good moral fiber being defeated. But some of those that survive follow moral codes of a different feather.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 10, 2013, 06:43:07 AM
I had my teeth set for Joff's wedding as the finale..
[spoiler]I guess they will open with that next season - and with Tyrion's trial & dealing with Tywin as the closer for season 4.
I almost felt sorry for Theon!
My biggest disappointment with the episode was how Bran got under the wall. I wanted to see that door open and see 'cold hands' the guide. Interesting that Sam wasn't sworn to secrecy about Bran being alive..[/spoiler]
Book spoiler:[spoiler]I guess this means coldhands won't turn out to be very important in the books? Kinda like patchface and other characters that have been omitted thus far.[/spoiler]
Loved the finale. I feel like the show is making almost every character more sympathetic than in the books. They are doing a great job distilling the plot down to its essence. I am always so impressed by how much they can fit in each episode.
Ygritte's[spoiler]performance was fantastic. A small change from the book but this little scene was powerful and brutal. Loved it.[/spoiler]
Regarding Ygritte:
[spoiler]Yes, that was a much cleaner way of handling her - although if I recall it was not one of her arrows that wounded Jon in the book. I imagine they will have Jon killing her in the series.[/spoiler]
Regarding the ending:
[spoiler]I would have loved them to show the Wilding Army led by Mance Rayder approaching the wall - and left off with the bellowing of mammoths & giants. :)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 12, 2013, 09:42:24 AM
Regarding Ygritte:
[spoiler]Yes, that was a much cleaner way of handling her - although if I recall it was not one of her arrows that wounded Jon in the book. I imagine they will have Jon killing her in the series.[/spoiler]
It's been a long time since I read it, but
Book spoiler:[spoiler] when Jon was fleeing and got shot in the leg with an arrow, didn't he see by the fletching that it was Ygritte's arrow? Or am I thinking of when Ygritte gets shot and he's trying to see if it's his arrow? Can't remember.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 12, 2013, 09:42:24 AM
Regarding the ending:
[spoiler]I would have loved them to show the Wilding Army led by Mance Rayder approaching the wall - and left off with the bellowing of mammoths & giants. :)[/spoiler]
That would have been epic indeed!
RE: Ygrette pt 2:
[spoiler]I am pretty certain the color of the fletcing - in the book - showed that she did not shoot Jon as he fled - and he only took one arrow in the leg, not three.[/spoiler]
Hey guys, I'm guessing you are discussing the books in your spoilers so I'm not clicking anything. This thread gets confusing on the spoiler box thing on whether it's a spoiler about the TV show or about the books with talking about things that haven't happened yet on the TV series.
I can't recall what our policy is for spoilers. Shouldn't it just be for things that haven't happened yet on the show?
Quote from: billybob476 on June 14, 2013, 01:17:34 PM
I can't recall what our policy is for spoilers. Shouldn't it just be for things that haven't happened yet on the show?
As long as it's in a spoiler box we are ok. Maybe it might help if a comment was listed right before the spoiler box that said: 'Book' or 'TV' so we would know if it's a spoiler for something in the books or just the TV series.
Good idea, I've been thinking "I sure hope Rico doesn't click on some of these..."
I think we have been flipping between the book & show. At any rate, duly noted - I'll try to post book or show in front of the spoiler tag. :)
Good call. I revised my last couple to specify book spoilers.
(neither book nor TV) [spoiler]I predict none of us will be looking at this thread much for about a year! :( It was a great season. [/spoiler]
http://hbowatch.com/game-of-thrones-season-4-filming-this-summer/ (http://hbowatch.com/game-of-thrones-season-4-filming-this-summer/)
I know, I know you're absolutely inconsolable. Game of Thrones has just ended its third season and you'll have to wait until Spring 2014 to see a new episode. Well we can't exactly alleviate that problem but maybe the fact that all of your favorite Game of Thrones actors and actresses will begin shooting season 4 in just one month will make you feel a LITTLE better!
"Principal photography starts in July," confirmed wardrobe supervisor Donna Hughes during a panel discussion at the Titanic Belfast studios in Northern Ireland.
Season 4 will cover the latter half of the THIRD book in Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire' series. All (well most!) of your personal heroes will be present once again making sure that the books are faithfully rendered to HBO's air.
With just under 300 days until Game of Thrones season 4 airs we know that the long winter will be rough for many of you. Stick with HBO Watch for non-stop coverage of principal filming of the fourth season along with all of the other great shows on HBO that will hopefully keep you somewhat entertained until Tyrion and the gang once again grace your living room silver screen.
Oh and while you wait check out some major Game of Thrones spoilers (or are they?) that George R.R Martin dropped on Conan last week:
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 17, 2013, 11:57:18 AM
(neither book nor TV) [spoiler]I predict none of us will be looking at this thread much for about a year! :( It was a great season. [/spoiler]
lols
July is coming..
Simpsonized Game of Thrones characters:
http://theawesomer.com/game-of-thrones-simpsonized/242307/ (http://theawesomer.com/game-of-thrones-simpsonized/242307/)
That is awesome! Where's Arya?
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/07/17/game-of-thrones-sherlock/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/07/17/game-of-thrones-sherlock/)
his is the sort of casting us geeky TV bloggers dream about: A Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Sherlock combo!
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'Game of Thrones' casts major season 4 role: Oberyn the Red Viper -- EXCLUSIVE 'Game of Thrones' season 4 directors chosen
Mark Gatiss will appear in the fourth season of HBO's Thrones. The British writer-producer-actor has written Doctor Who novels and episodes of the BBC cult classic, as well as acted on the long-running series (since 2007, he's credited to three different roles on IMDB). In addition, Gatiss is the co-creator and co-star of another Brit-based favorite, Sherlock, where he plays Holmes' dryly mysterious brother Mycroft. Now he's booked on HBO's fantasy hit next year.
On Thrones he will play ...
Well, that's something we cannot reveal. The Thrones team is keeping Gatiss' role quiet. Maybe showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss will say more at their Comic-Con panel on Friday? Also, Sherlock is making its first-ever SDCC panel appearance on Thursday (I'm moderating) so maybe Gatiss will spill something then. EW.com will bring you full coverage of both events, plus we will stream our own interviews with the Thrones and Sherlock producers on the EW.com homepage.
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While Thrones added numerous new roles for its second and third seasons, population growth is slowing considerable for season four (the show already has a larger cast than any drama on television). Gatiss joins fellow season 4 newcomer Pedro Pascal, who will play the key role of Prince Oberyn "The Red Viper" Martell. Also, yesterday we revealed the list of directors for season 4.
http://www.webpronews.com/most-pirated-show-game-of-thrones-is-also-amazons-best-selling-show-of-the-year-2013-07 (http://www.webpronews.com/most-pirated-show-game-of-thrones-is-also-amazons-best-selling-show-of-the-year-2013-07)
Here's an interesting read...Game of Thrones, most pirated show of last year...Game of Thrones...top selling TV show on Amazon last year. Don't know what that says about piracy, but I think it's more that people don't want to be spoiled, download it and watch it, and still buy the DVDs/Blurays.
Imagine that - an original compelling storyline...and it sells! :)
This is awesome! Now, this is the payback I want to see!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdA6lQ6ymhU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdA6lQ6ymhU#ws)
Piracy operates as a popularity tax. Typically, you see the same trend with major music releases.
That is funny! Like Winter...Payback Is Coming..
Quote from: Bromptonboy on August 05, 2013, 01:38:40 AM
That is funny! Like Winter...Payback Is Coming..
I've heard that for awhile now. I hope we finally get some next season.
Hey, talk about crossing threads - you know who would have been a cool Doctor..Peter Dinkledge! :)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-recasts-mountain-season-620111 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-recasts-mountain-season-620111)
Icelandic actor Hafthor Julius Bjornsson will be the third person to play the role of Gregor Clegane.
Arya has a new guy to add to her list of people she wants dead.
Icelandic actor Hafthor Julius Bjornsson has been cast as Gregor Clegane in the upcoming fourth season of Game of Thrones, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed. The actor let the cat out the bag via Twitter Monday, writing "For all my fans! I am happy to tell you that I will be THE MOUNTAIN In season 4 In Game Of Thrones :)"
PHOTOS: 'Game of Thrones'' Most Gruesome Deaths:
Bjornsson will be the third person to play The Mountain, brother of Sandor Clegane (Rory McCann). Conan Stevens played the part for two episodes in season one, while Ian Whyte took up the mantle in season 2. Whyte also played a giant and a White Walker in the HBO hit.
Gregor did not appear in season 3, but based on what happens in George R.R. Martin's novels, the gigantic knight should have an expanded role in the upcoming season.
The casting comes after last week's reveal that Treme alum Michiel Huisman was joining the cast. Sources told THR he will replace Ed Skrein as Daario Naharis. Joseph Gatt was also recently confirmed to have joined the cast in an unspecified role, with fan speculation (fueled by his IMDB page) pegging him as Styr, Magnar of Thenn.
Game of Thrones is expected to return next year on HBO.
For all my fans! I am happy to tell you that I will be THE MOUNTAIN In season 4 In Game Of Thrones :)
— Hafþór J Björnsson (@ThorBjornsson_) September 3, 2013
There are some pretty funny tshirts here:
http://popuptee.com/collections/limited-edition-sale (http://popuptee.com/collections/limited-edition-sale)
Some info on current shooting:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2434290/Game-Of-Thrones-season-4-Khaleesis-army-prepare-action-dramatic-new-images-Croatia.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2434290/Game-Of-Thrones-season-4-Khaleesis-army-prepare-action-dramatic-new-images-Croatia.html)
The last season left Emilia Clarke's Khaleesi on the brink of attempting to reclaim the Iron Throne with her trio of dragons and the army of the Unsullied.
And new photographs from the Game Of Thrones set show it certainly takes an army to film an army.
The sweeping shots from the season four production show hundreds of extras in matching armour and dozens of crew members preparing to shoot scenes in Zrnovnica, Croatia.
To reclaim the Iron Throne: Filming for season four of HBO's Game of Thrones began in dramatic style in Zrnovnica, Croatia on Thursday
With production set in a former quarry, the shots show the actors waiting for instructions while their metal shields, helmets and vests lay to one side.
Places are also marked for actors to stand as trucks and trailers remain nearby to get the actors camera ready, while assorted crew members dress the set by brushing out footprints from the ground.
Wearing leather and metal vests and grey cloth trousers, actors are made up and given instruction by the director before they take their place, amassing in a tented area before shooting begins.
Readying the army: A scene featuring the Unsullied army prepares for shooting on a dramatic landscape
In production: Crew and cast have gathered for a scene featuring Daenerys Targaryen's army of the Unsullied
Song of fire and ice: Extras attempt to stay cool in the hot sun as the fourth season of Game of Thrones films
The Unsullied: Hundreds of extras prep for the scene in the upcoming episode of Game of Thrones
Large-scale fight scenes such as this are common for the hit fantasy show and next season looks to continue the trend.
Missing from the scene was army leader Daenerys played by Emilia, who received an Emmy nomination for the role and appeared on stage at the awards show in Los Angeles on Sunday.
As the heir to the 'mad' but deposed king Aerys II Targaryen, Daenerys has amassed a renowned fighting force made up of soldier eunuchs from the land of Astapor.
Hot shot: The crew of Game of Thrones brave the elements with camera crews sporting hats and sunglasses
Agents of shield: Props from the Unsullied army await use by the menagerie of extras
Prep work: A crew member brushes the ground free of footprints in anticipation of the upcoming scene
According the show mythology, members of the Unsullied begin their training at age five and are taught to be immune to both pain and death.
Her army is key to her gaining power and land, thus making her a serious contender for the Iron Throne.
The show is also filmed in Belfast, Northern Ireland and Mdina in Malta with the third season shooting in Essaouira in Morocco.
Camera ready: Hundreds of extra prepare for filming on the set of Game of Thrones
Gearing up: Actors take position for the filming of the Game of Thrones episode
Forward, march! Actors find their places
Battle ready: The actors playing the Unsullied take direction
Based on the collection of bestselling books by George R R Martin, the show has enjoyed increasing ratings from the first season in 2011.
According to website Vulture, the series enjoyed an average rating of 4.9 million viewers in season three, making it the most popular show on the network since The Sopranos.
The fourth season of Game of Thrones will premiere in March 2014.
The Unsullied: Daenerys Targaryen gained her army after outsmarting Kraznys mo Nakloz
One woman's army: Daenerys Targaryen leads the army of the Unsullied
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This is how I picture the Aerie in Westeros:
Check out the link for the full photo series!
http://www.viralnova.com/dangerous-trail-huashan/ (http://www.viralnova.com/dangerous-trail-huashan/)
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Great interview of Roy Dotrice - who does the audiobooks for Game of Thrones:
[embed=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wcSeOrTAVs[/embed]
Great tidbits about the coming season 4:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2549019/New-Game-Of-Thrones-stills-Emilia-Clarkes-Daenerys-recast-actor-Michiel-Huisman.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2549019/New-Game-Of-Thrones-stills-Emilia-Clarkes-Daenerys-recast-actor-Michiel-Huisman.html)
Link to a new article about the next season. Just the link since there are spoilers:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2555555/Tyrion-Lannisters-head-chopping-block-new-series-Game-Of-Thrones.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2555555/Tyrion-Lannisters-head-chopping-block-new-series-Game-Of-Thrones.html)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2561014/Emilia-Clarke-Kit-Harington-rest-cast-revenge-new-Game-Of-Thrones-trailer.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2561014/Emilia-Clarke-Kit-Harington-rest-cast-revenge-new-Game-Of-Thrones-trailer.html)
Vengeance is in the air in Westeros.
And violence is guaranteed as witnessed by the brand new trailer for the season four premiere of HBO's Game Of Thrones.
And as viewers have come to expect, this season promises more huge battles and bloodshed following the aftermath of last year's brutal Red Wedding.
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Vengeance: Emilia Clarke proclaims her self a Queen in the new trailer for the season premiere of Game of Thrones+10
Vengeance: Emilia Clarke proclaims her self a Queen in the new trailer for the season premiere of Game of Thrones
The trailer begins with young Arya reciting the names of the people she plans on killing.
She has plenty of reason to be angry following the slaughter of her brother and mother in the now infamous Red Wedding episode from last season.
Her sister Sansa, while not as violent, has been traumatized by their deaths too and utters, 'I lie awake all night thinking about how they died.'
Revenge: Arya wants to kill the people responsible for murdering her mother and brother
Their gorgeous half brother Jon Snow (Kit Harington) also has revenge on his mind, saying 'All we can give him now is justice.'
Over in King's Landing, Queen Cersei (Lena Headey) appears uttering the line: 'A day will come when your joy will turn to ashes in your mouth. And you'll know the debt is paid.'
Unfortunately, viewers aren't shown the recipient of that wicked retort.
While her diminutive brother Tyrion Lannister (Peter Dinklage) reveals the ever truthful statement, 'If you want justice you've come to the wrong place.'
Sleepless: Sansa has been traumatized by the death of her family
Additionally, we see fan favorite Daenerys (Emilia Clarke) with her empire of freed slaves fully embrace her birthright role by proclaiming, 'I will do what queens do. I will rule.'
We're also shown young Bran Stark continuing his quest beyond the Wall, the Night's Watch try to prepare for the invasion of the Wildlings and the arrival of the dreaded White Walkers.
The new trailer comes after HBO revealed its first season four trailer last month and debuted a 15-minute Thrones preview last week.
The show's third season finale was watched by over 5.4 million viewers in June.
And though it fell just short of hitting a new record audience, it solidified its status as the second-most-watched series in HBO's history.
Game of Thrones season 4 premieres on Sunday April 6th at 9 p.m.
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Great teasers and pics - I won't post the content since it may contain spoilers:
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/2/25/see-new-character-posters-and-season-4-teasers.html (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/2/25/see-new-character-posters-and-season-4-teasers.html)
Well, I just re-subscribed to HBO yesterday - just so I can watch Game of Thrones starting on the 4/6/2014.
Just read a good article in Entertainment Weekly about the upcoming season. Sounds like lots of action and some big things are coming. No spoilers in the article.
Any one else watch the first show? I really liked it. A few differences from the book, but nothing too bad:
[spoiler]Arya knocking off the Lannister guy in the tavern was great. Although I thought I recalled in the book that the Hound gets a wound there that will eventually fester.
Daenyrs is still beyond excellent! I love how she wants to see the face of every poor dead slave on the road to Muryeen.[/spoiler]
Good first episode for this season. Finally - the start of a little payback!
Oooh. Just wait. Payback is Coming. I SWEAR.
"Game of Thrones" renewed for seasons 5 & 6 already! Winter (and more money) is coming!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=116930 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=116930)
That is great newss. I just hope that GRRM keeps ahead of the series. This might be the motivation he needs. Season 4 is the 2nd half of Book 3. Even if they keep splitting - at the rate he writes - I think HBO will over take him..
..although I want the books now - I want him to take his time and do them properly.
He was briefly interviewed on BBC Radio 4 earlier this week and admitted that there was the real possibility of being overrun by the TV show but he seemed fairly relaxed about the possibility. I got the impression he was happy with the way the show had turned out so far but was also very aware of the very limited influence author have over TV under any circumstances.
The interview may still be in the Today podcast feed if anyone's interested.
Thanks, I'll have to check it out. I thought he had written or helped produce some of the scripts.
He writes one script a season I believe. It's good news about the early renewals because I have my doubts about some of the upcoming material from the books (not this season but the next two in particular) being as accessible mto the mass audiences as what we've seen so far. I can totally see people throwing up their hands with this show as more and more characters with less and less appeal are introduced.
have you read any of the early release chapters he has posted? The latest one called 'Mercy'.
Quote from: Jobydrone on April 11, 2014, 07:38:32 AM
He writes one script a season I believe.
That's what he said in the interview. He also said he didn't have time to do any more. Something about having some books to write, or something ;)
Any one else watch the latest episode? Rico how do you feel about it.... ?
A few minor book deviations, but quite good!
Yup, interested to hear Rico's thoughts on this one.
yeah, now is the time that the story starts to get good. what those watching don't yet realize that everything up until this point was pretty much setup and fluff in comparison to the rest of the story.
Some speculation - spoilers:
[spoiler]It looks to me like Bron is going to double-cross Tyrion in the HBO version, which I don't think he did in the book. Unless they are letting Tyrion's mistress go from the story line. That would be a pity.
I noticed that when Oleanna Tyrel moved away from Sansa after fussing with her hair that a certain stone was missing from her necklace...[/spoiler]
Mad Men trumped Game of Thrones last night, but I will watch GoT tonight.
I expect an ALL CAPS level reaction from you, Mr. Dostie.
Madison Ave trumped Kings Landing!? :)
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 14, 2014, 03:08:42 PM
Madison Ave trumped Kings Landing!? :)
Yes - by far for me. I love Mad Men. Love the characters, the time period - everything!
Ok, so I just watched the episode...
FINALLY! Spoilers ahead...
[spoiler]So Joffrey poisoned. Looks like it was possibly Sansa or Olenna Tyrell. I'm betting on Olenna. I have to say I really wanted one of the Starks to gut Joffrey but I guess this will have to do for now. Oh, and that stuff at the beginning chasing down that girl (whoever she was) - that was some nasty stuff.[/spoiler]
Everything with Ramsay Snow is nasty, he's just awful. I think it's amusing how Roose Bolton is pretty OK with how awful he is.
Quote from: ChrisMC on April 14, 2014, 04:20:08 PM
Everything with Ramsay Snow is nasty, he's just awful. I think it's amusing how Roose Bolton is pretty OK with how awful he is.
I was ok with what he did to a certain Greyjoy - but not what happened on this last episode.
***BIG SPOILERS AT THIS LINK***
http://imgur.com/a/2DtPH (http://imgur.com/a/2DtPH)
A VERY good breakdown of the poisoning.
I watched the end scene a few times and caught most of that.
Yeah, sorry I mean to put that in a spoiler tag.
My wife made me rewind a few times, Bran's dream, and the wedding. She's read the books a few times.
Yes it was a good episode.
[spoiler]Yes - Ramsey Snow / Bolton is not a nice guy. Not sure who the woman was along with him doing some shooting.
Tyrion is in for a bit of a rough time..[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 14, 2014, 10:14:09 AM
Some speculation - spoilers:
[spoiler]It looks to me like Bron is going to double-cross Tyrion in the HBO version, which I don't think he did in the book. Unless they are letting Tyrion's mistress go from the story line. That would be a pity.
I noticed that when Oleanna Tyrel moved away from Sansa after fussing with her hair that a certain stone was missing from her necklace...[/spoiler]
seriously, don't click if you haven't read the books[spoiler]Regarding Shae, isn't her death under the orders of Tywin a major impetus for Tyrion's patricide? (it's been a while now since I've read) I don't believe they will deviate so far from the books on this, we'll see that for sure if I'm remembewring correctly. [/spoiler]
Spoilers about Shae! Do not read if you haven't read the book.
[spoiler]The TV show differs from the book - so far. In the book she gives evidence against Tyrion during his trial. She really sticks it to him, and lies quite a bit. Later when Tyrion is escaping, he decides to pay a visit to his father. He discovers that Shae is in his father's bed - while Tywin is using the privy. Tyrion chokes her using the Hands necklace - which she is wearing. he then shoot Tywin on the privvy.
In the show - so far- Bron has said she has sailed away. So maybe he is on on the conspiriacy to frame Tyrion - although I hope not as he didnt do that in the book. it might just be they drop the Shae character - but I think that unlikely...[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 15, 2014, 08:06:25 AM
Spoilers about Shae! Do not read if you haven't read the book.
[spoiler]The TV show differs from the book - so far. In the book she gives evidence against Tyrion during his trial. She really sticks it to him, and lies quite a bit. Later when Tyrion is escaping, he decides to pay a visit to his father. He discovers that Shae is in his father's bed - while Tywin is using the privy. Tyrion chokes her using the Hands necklace - which she is wearing. he then shoot Tywin on the privvy.
In the show - so far- Bron has said she has sailed away. So maybe he is on on the conspiriacy to frame Tyrion - although I hope not as he didnt do that in the book. it might just be they drop the Shae character - but I think that unlikely...[/spoiler]
I'd be surprised...
[spoiler]
If Shae actually sailed away. Bronn didn't exactly confirm that he watched the ship sail away. All he confirmed is that she was aboard. You'll recall Tywin also ordered her brought to the Tower of the Hand after the wedding.
[/spoiler]
Yes..
[spoiler]Are you thinking that Bronn is playing a double-game, or that Tywin intercepted Shae? I hate to think that of Bronn! :)[/spoiler]
Ah ok I forgot all that stuff. I want to re-read them since I plowed through them full speed ahead the first time
I can barely handle all the nasty people on the TV show. I very much doubt I could ever handle reading about them in the books.
Quote from: Rico on April 15, 2014, 02:04:17 PM
I can barely handle all the nasty people on the TV show. I very much doubt I could ever handle reading about them in the books.
There aren't to many virtuous people outside of the Starks, Daenyrs, and a few others.
Full grown dragon in this world. See links below...
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=117287 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=117287)
Book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553805444/comingsoon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553805444/comingsoon)
Wow! That would take the Aeryie without too much difficulty!
Good episode. Glad Daenyrs got a little screen time in this one.
[spoiler]Looks like they got rid of Kevan Lannister - and Pod is playing some of his role. I do recall Jaime 'forcing' Cersei in a sept, but not with her son's body in the room. Very sexually graphic episode.
I don't care of the changes up north at the wall. Why would the wildings broadcast their coming by letting the boy go? they aimed to surprise the wall for the rear.[/spoiler]
Another solid episode. Again, Westeros (unlike Disneyland) is not the happiest place. Loved the Daenyrs stuff. Some comments...
[spoiler]Seems a bit odd they suspect Tyrion so much and aren't looking too much elsewhere. I would be looking at who had more to gain by killing Joffrey. Tyrion wouldn't get much from it and he is way too smart to do something so obvious. John Snow already knows the Wildlings are coming, so does it really matter they let that boy go? Also, where are all these Wildlings they keep talking about? I never see more than about 20 of them.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on April 21, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
Another solid episode. Again, Westeros (unlike Disneyland) is not the happiest place. Loved the Daenyrs stuff. Some comments...
[spoiler]Seems a bit odd they suspect Tyrion so much and aren't looking too much elsewhere. I would be looking at who had more to gain by killing Joffrey. Tyrion wouldn't get much from it and he is way too smart to do something so obvious. John Snow already knows the Wildlings are coming, so does it really matter they let that boy go? Also, where are all these Wildlings they keep talking about? I never see more than about 20 of them.[/spoiler]
Rico, don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. :)
[spoiler]Yes, much of that is clearer in the book. Cersei is all game to go after Tyrion, and as you will see there have been elaborate preparations to frame him for the crime.
In the book, Jon Snow rides away from that raiding party, and they immediately attack Mole Town and the wall, so they don't loose surpise. Shortly afterwards the huge Wilding army attacks the wall from the other side.
I get chills when Daenrys makes her speeches! So great to see a person of integrity in this world![/spoiler]
Not reading then. I can control myself. :innocent
I get goose-bumps from Daenyrs's speeches.
Great episode again - some pretty significant departures from the book here, but they may be early looks at what GRRM has planned.
[spoiler]Bran and Hodor getting caught by the mutineers - that would mean that rumors of Bran's survival would start percolating south.
That new guy on the wall looks like the same guy that chopped off Jayme's hand? Am I mistaken>
The thing that really floored my, was the appearance of the Others - and that ceremony turning the baby into one of them. They looked a bit demonic. GRRM must have had a hand in this I would think.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on April 28, 2014, 03:30:40 AM
Great episode again - some pretty significant departures from the book here, but they may be early looks at what GRRM has planned.
[spoiler]Bran and Hodor getting caught by the mutineers - that would mean that rumors of Bran's survival would start percolating south.
That new guy on the wall looks like the same guy that chopped off Jayme's hand? Am I mistaken>
The thing that really floored my, was the appearance of the Others - and that ceremony turning the baby into one of them. They looked a bit demonic. GRRM must have had a hand in this I would think.[/spoiler]
The breakdown says that the [spoiler]Other at the end was the Night King. We now that GRRM has told the show runners the way things are gonna shake out. [/spoiler] Book readers got spoiled for once.
Wow, that is interesting! I hadn't read that anywhere. Thanks
[spoiler]I made a quick count of the other figures standing with the night king - there were 15 counting him - not sure if that is significant in any way.[/spoiler]
Question about the new guy joining the Night Watch:
[spoiler]Wasn't that the guy who cut off Jayme's hand? I think Sam letting Jon know that Bran is still alive really changes things.
[/spoiler]
One about tyrions mistress:
[spoiler]I think it looks like Bron is not a turn coat, but she must be waiting in the wings to betray Tyrion.[/spoiler]
Ok, I'm not reading any of your 'spolier' boxes guys but it was an interesting episode. Poor Hodor. Man, just when I think there is going to be an upside more bad things keep happening to the only good people around.
Spoiler Link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2615916/HBO-accidentally-reveals-key-Game-Of-Thrones-character-synopsis-latest-episode.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2615916/HBO-accidentally-reveals-key-Game-Of-Thrones-character-synopsis-latest-episode.html)
More spoilers. Pretty soon I will just have to stay off the internet completely. :)
Quote from: Rico on April 29, 2014, 01:12:28 PM
More spoilers. Pretty soon I will just have to stay off the internet completely. :)
Yeah, for this one, I got spoiled, and I have read all the books - and released chapters. :)
Some interesting observations from the NY Times about violence in the series. I'll enclose in a spoiler tag to be safe:
[spoiler]From its very beginnings, "Game of Thrones" has been riddled with sexual brutality. The franchise, which started as a series of fantasy novels by George R. R. Martin about a bleak, feudal world, has at various times included a warrior king who claims his child bride on their wedding night, and the gang rape of a young woman by "half a hundred shouting men behind a tanner's shop."
These scenes and others have raised concerns, but this discussion was confined to readers and critics of fantasy fiction.
Now the debate about the series's sexual violence has spilled into the mainstream and grown vehement, fueled by the explosive growth of HBO's "Game of Thrones" series. In its fourth season, the show, which airs on Sunday nights, averages more than 14 million viewers and has become its cable network's most watched series since "The Sopranos."
In the latest episode, women held captive in a wintry shelter are sexually brutalized. In the deeply controversial episode that preceded it, a scheming noblewoman in an incestuous relationship with her brother is forced to have sex with him, despite her cries of no.
Rape is often presented in television plotlines, where it has far-reaching and lasting consequences for the affected characters. But critics of "Game of Thrones" fear that rape has become so pervasive in the drama that it is almost background noise: a routine and unshocking occurrence.
Many viewers were roiled by the television episode containing the rape of the noblewoman, Cersei Lannister, by her brother Jaime, and protested on blogs, Facebook and Twitter.
The outrage was further fueled by comments from the director of that episode, who told the website Hitfix.com that the characters' coupling became "consensual by the end."
That left audiences wondering if the show's producers truly understood what they had depicted. "That is not what I saw, and that is not what many people saw," said Maureen Ryan, a television critic for The Huffington Post, who wrote that the scene was unequivocally a rape.
Mr. Martin's "Game of Thrones" novels, known collectively as "A Song of Ice and Fire," have more than 31 million copies in print, and have been translated into more than 25 different languages, according to his publisher, the Bantam Books imprint of Random House. The HBO series is broadcast in more than 150 countries and is the most pirated show worldwide.
It's also perhaps the most popular entertainment property to depict sexual violence frequently and throughout its incarnations on page and on screen. The latest issue of the Game of Thrones comic book, released last week by Dynamite Entertainment, graphically depicts, by the fourth page, a barbarian preparing to rape a nude woman after conquering her village.
In response to email questions, Mr. Martin wrote that as an artist, he had an obligation to tell the truth about history and about human nature.
"Rape and sexual violence have been a part of every war ever fought, from the ancient Sumerians to our present day," said Mr. Martin, 65, who lives in Santa Fe, N.M.
"To omit them from a narrative centered on war and power would have been fundamentally false and dishonest," he continued, "and would have undermined one of the themes of the books: that the true horrors of human history derive not from orcs and Dark Lords, but from ourselves."
David Benioff and D. B. Weiss, the show runners of the HBO series and responsible for its day-to-day operation, declined to be interviewed.
Michael Lombardo, the president for programming at HBO, said in an email that "The choices our creative teams make are based on the motivations and sensibilities that they believe define their characters. We fully support the vision and artistry of Dan and David's exceptional work and we feel this work speaks for itself."
Other television shows like "Downton Abbey" and "Private Practice" have had story lines about rape, but they were singular events that explored the repercussions.
"The best depictions don't just leave it at the dramatic device of the rape itself," said Scott Berkowitz, president of the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network, an anti-sexual violence group. "They use it to tell a deeper story about recovery and what effect it has on that person."
But "Game of Thrones" does not seem to be doing that.
[/spoiler]
I don't want to see spoilers, but are they saying the series is too violent? I heard the books are even more violent.
It is talking specifically about the violence towards women. If you have seen the current show, you should be ok reading the article.
Isn't this violence in the books too?
Yes there is - but there are subtle changes from the books to the series. Westeros and Esteros are brutal places. There are a few things added in the series that were not done in the book as well - but that is for ratings i suppose.
I'm shocked the animal rights folks haven't complained too!
Another great episode - with some more departures from the books - but nothing too bad.
[spoiler]That rescue mission to Theon didn't happen in the books - not sure why it was included.
IF I recall, the Iron Bank came to Stannis - no the other way round. I find it tough to believe he would have abased himself like that.
[/spoiler]
I like this latest episode quite a bit. Hit most of the current story lines - well except a couple of them.
[spoiler]Man - Theon is one messed up dude. Sorry, no tears for him. Tyrion is just so darn awesome! Love the dragon going after the goats![/spoiler]
Yeah that was great!
[spoiler]The dragon CGI was great. They have gotten so big.
I almost feel sorry for Theon. He is certainly paying for all of his sins.
You ain't seen nothing yet with Tyrion- wait till after his trial..[/spoiler]
No pity for Theon after what he has done in the past.
Peter Dinklage just scored his Emmy at the end of that episode. Wonderful.
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 13, 2014, 08:06:23 AM
Peter Dinklage just scored his Emmy at the end of that episode. Wonderful.
Yes he did a great job. If you ever get the chance, check out the audiobooks. Roy Dotrice does the reading, and his Tyrion is great. He gives all the Lanisters Welsh accents - save for Tywin who sounds like Churchill.
His Lord Varys sounds vaguely like James Hayter - if you can rememer that old actor!
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 13, 2014, 08:06:23 AM
Peter Dinklage just scored his Emmy at the end of that episode. Wonderful.
Yeah no kidding. Damn that was good
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 13, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 13, 2014, 08:06:23 AM
Peter Dinklage just scored his Emmy at the end of that episode. Wonderful.
Yes he did a great job. If you ever get the chance, check out the audiobooks. Roy Dotrice does the reading, and his Tyrion is great. He gives all the Lanisters Welsh accents - save for Tywin who sounds like Churchill.
His Lord Varys sounds vaguely like James Hayter - if you can rememer that old actor!
Yes!! Audiobooks so good.
Book 4 was read by someone else, and he didn't do nearly as good of a job. Roy is back in book 5, but he is getting on in years. I hope he makes it for the other books..
I think he goofed on Daenyrs' voice in book 5 - she went from posh sounding to fish-wife'ish.
Loved the latest episode!
[spoiler]Poor Lysa going out the moon gate![/spoiler]
I liked this one quite a bit too. And I knew I liked Prince Oberon before, but now even more.
My God, I knew what to expect - but that latest episode still slammed me.
[spoiler]Wow! So disturbing. Poor Prince Martel.
A few major departures here from the book. Both Sansa and Arya ID'ing themselves. They did a good job of showing Sansa's transformation.
I was wondering how Danyrs would handle the news about Mormont as well.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 02, 2014, 02:44:42 AM
My God, I knew what to expect - but that latest episode still slammed me.
[spoiler]Wow! So disturbing. Poor Prince Martel.
A few major departures here from the book. Both Sansa and Arya ID'ing themselves. They did a good job of showing Sansa's transformation.
I was wondering how Danyrs would handle the news about Mormont as well.[/spoiler]
Mind...BLOWN! ;)
Quite the episode. Lots going on now. Only two more to go for this season.
Still more fun in store for Kings Landing.. :)
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101737463 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101737463)
"Game of Thrones," HBO's Emmy-award winning fantasy epic, has surpassed "The Sopranos" as its most popular series ever, the premium cable network said on Thursday.
Read More Google Maps gives directions for your dragon
Episodes in the fourth season of the show have an average gross audience of 18.4 million, including repeat showings, video on demand and mobile streaming, which broke the record of 18.2 million set by the 2002 season of the mobster drama, "The Sopranos."
Video on demand and delayed viewing habits have changed significantly since 2002, with more options being open to television audiences.
Season three of the show averaged 14.4 million viewers per episode. Two episodes of the fourth season have yet to be aired, with the finale set for June 15. HBO has already committed to making seasons five and six.
Read More Amazon, HBO sign exclusive multiyear online-only deal
The series on Time Warner-owned HBO network features dragons, castles and dragons. It is based on the best-selling books by fantasy and science fiction writer George R.R. Martin about fictional, medieval families fighting for control of a mythical land.
The show, which first aired in 2011, stars Peter Dinklage, Lena Headey, Emilia Clarke, and Maisie Williams, and is sold to more than 200 markets outside the United States.
—By Reuters
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2650449/George-RR-Martin-makes-fundraising-appeal-Game-Of-Thrones-fans-character-kill-upcoming-novel.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2650449/George-RR-Martin-makes-fundraising-appeal-Game-Of-Thrones-fans-character-kill-upcoming-novel.html)
George RR Martin will name a character after a male and female fan and kill them in a future A Song Of Ice And Fire novel as part of a fundraising campaign.
The 65-year-old fantasy writer whose epic novels were adopted by HBO into the hit show Game Of Thrones made the offer on Thursday as part of a fundraising drive for the Wild Spirit Wolf Sanctuary and the Food Depot in New Mexico.
One male character and one female character will be made available for a Martyr level donation of $20,000.
Scroll down for video...
Fundraising effort: George RR Martin, shown in March, is offering fans a chance to name a character he will kill
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Fundraising effort: George RR Martin, shown in March, is offering fans a chance to name a character he will kill
'You can choose your character's station in the world (lordling, knight, peasant, whore, lady, maester, septon, anything) and you will certainly meet a grisly death!,' the author promised on the Prizeo.com website.
George appeared in a YouTube video and said proceeds would benefit the wolf sanctuary in New Mexico that he and his wife Paris have supported for years as well as the Food Depot that serves as a food bank for nine counties.
The campaign has donation levels that go from the $10 Ranger level to the $20,000 Martyr.
Wolf fan: George has included wolves in his fantasy novels adopted into Game Of Thrones
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Wolf fan: George has included wolves in his fantasy novels adopted into Game Of Thrones
Donors will be eligible for a drawing in which one winner and a guest will be flown to Santa Fe, New Mexico to join George for a wolf sanctuary tour and a helicopter ride.
'We can talk about dragons, direwolves, Games Of Thrones, Song of Ice And Fire, anything you want to talk about,' George said.
A Queen level donation of $4,500 will get one donor the script of the first Game Of Thrones episode signed by the cast and crew.
A King level donation of $7,500 will earn a supporter a pair of tickets to the season five premiere of the show.
For a $7,500 donation at the Crown level, a donor will receive one of the author's worn trademark sailor hats.
The contest will be open until August 4.
Solid penultimate seasonal episode. Only one more to go - not looking forward to waiting another year.
[spoiler]battle at the wall was pretty good. Poor Ygrtte - although I knew that was coming.
Loved the hammer to the head of that cannibal guy![/spoiler]
I am not going to paste the content here, since it contains too many spoilers:
SPOILER ALERT FOR THIS LINK
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=872179 (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=872179)
Olyphaunts Mr. Frodo!
So cool.
Quote from: ChrisMC on June 09, 2014, 01:34:58 PM
Olyphaunts Mr. Frodo!
So cool.
Big as a house, gray as a mouse..
Great episode this week. Very cool stuff!
Another link about the final episode - some spoilers so only the link:
SPOILERS
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/09/game-of-thrones-showrunners-finale-4-tease/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/09/game-of-thrones-showrunners-finale-4-tease/)
Interesting article - details a few differences in how GRRM views his world as opposed to what is shown on HBO;
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/arts/television/george-r-r-martin-wants-more-game-of-thrones-too.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=AR_GRR_20140611&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1388552400000&bicmet=1420088400000&_r=3 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/arts/television/george-r-r-martin-wants-more-game-of-thrones-too.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=AR_GRR_20140611&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1388552400000&bicmet=1420088400000&_r=3)
How cool to get your name in GoT?!
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/game-thrones-character-named-dave-goldblatt/story?id=24093699 (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/game-thrones-character-named-dave-goldblatt/story?id=24093699)
Author George R.R. Martin, the creator of the "Game of Thrones" series, will introduce a new character in one of his upcoming books thanks to a $20,000 charity auction prize. He'll eventually kill off that character.
A 30-year-old Facebook employee won the highest prize level in which Martin will name a character after him in an upcoming book in the series, "A Song of Ice and Fire."
Read More: 'Game of Thrones' Fans Respond in Droves to George R.R. Martin's Fundraiser for Wolves, Hungry Children
PHOTO: Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen in the fourth season of the HBO show, Game of Thrones. HBO
PHOTO: Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen in the fourth season of the HBO show, "Game of Thrones".
Will fans around the world name their child after this new and mysterious personality the way parents named their daughters Arya and Khaleesi, names that Martin created describing two of his female leads?
Except for characters like good 'ole Jon Snow, most names, even the "Wildlings" who roam beyond the wall, have multiple vowels and consecutive consonants.
This new character will be named Dave Goldblatt, a product specialist who reigns from San Francisco.
Goldblatt said he viewed the first season of the HBO series on the recommendation of a friend, then he immediately read the book series in six months.
When asked whether Martin will morph his name to mimic the designations of fictional noble men and women that sound part-Welsh and part-science fiction, Goldblatt said, "I have no idea. You're going to have to ask George about that."
PHOTO: George R.R. Martin attends the Game Of Thrones Season 4 premiere at Avery Fisher Hall, Lincoln Center, March 18, 2014 in New York.Taylor Hill/Getty Images
PHOTO: George R.R. Martin attends the "Game Of Thrones" Season 4 premiere at Avery Fisher Hall, Lincoln Center, March 18, 2014 in New York.
Technically speaking, his name is David, but only Goldblatt's mother calls him that.
"I'm just lucky enough to be in a position to do this," Goldblatt said of the $20,000 prize. "Obviously, the money is going to charity, so it's an added bonus. I didn't immediately seek to help wolf sanctuaries, but the more I read about the charities, I learned it was a worthwhile cause."
There were only two top-level prizes available, called the "martyr" level, reserved for a man and a woman. Martin will name a future character after Goldblatt and the other winner, who has remained anonymous. The two winners will choose their "character's station in the world (lordling, knight, peasant, whore, lady, maester, septon, anything) and you will certainly meet a grisly death!" the Prizeo website states.
Goldblatt chose to be a "Valryian," a people group famous for their indestructible steel, as his station in Martin's literary universe.
When asked why he chose to be a "Valyrian," Goldblatt said, "You read some piece of fiction and for whatever reason you think one particular character or race is cool – and for whatever reason, I thought the Valyrians were cool. I'm hoping in future books we get to see more of them."
Martin's project is raising money for Wild Spirit Wolf Sanctuary and the Food Depot of Santa Fe, New Mexico, where Martin lives with his wife, Parris. The campaign is hosted on celebrity-based sweepstakes fundraising site Prizeo.com.
Season Finale:
Wow, I really liked it. I must say there is one part from the show that I prefer from the books:
[spoiler]I was really very pleased at the parting of Tyrion and Jaime. I always hated how they parted in anger in the books.[/spoiler]
The Hound:
[spoiler]I was wondering how they would deal with him - I was thinking he would die from the infected wound to his ear[/spoiler]
Tryion:
[spoiler]That went down as I suspected it would. Some hints from book 5 here - in how he was shipped off.[/spoiler]
Just link to avoid spoilers:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-finale-martin/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-finale-martin/)
Another good link. Lots of spoilers so click with caution:
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-recap-season-4-finale/?_php=true&_type=blogs&smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=AR_GOT_20140616&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1388552400000&bicmet=1420088400000&_r=3& (http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-recap-season-4-finale/?_php=true&_type=blogs&smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=AR_GOT_20140616&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1388552400000&bicmet=1420088400000&_r=3&)
Really cool season finale. Lots happened. Still digesting it all. Bring on season 5!
I am in despair that I have to wait another year. Longer for the next book..
Pete,
Can you explain about that iron coin that Arya has? I forgot where that was from.
Quote from: Rico on June 17, 2014, 11:29:22 AM
Pete,
Can you explain about that iron coin that Arya has? I forgot where that was from.
Last season,
[spoiler]Jaqen H'ghar gives it to her at Harrenhal before she escapes in additon to teaching her the whole "Valar morghulis" thing. He was the guy that killed 3 people for her.[/spoiler]
Right.
Arya's character becomes even cooler in the next book. I hope they start filming soon, as the actress is growing up fast. :)
Good for a laugh:
Wil Wheaton Project - Game of Thrones / Brady Bunch
http://youtu.be/afBeMHDUwgw (http://youtu.be/afBeMHDUwgw)
:)
Funny!
Another good synposis - loaded with spoilers:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2660878/Spoiler-alert-Bigger-bloodier-The-Sopranos-Games-Thrones-season-finale-breathtaking-television-writes-JIM-SHELLEY.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2660878/Spoiler-alert-Bigger-bloodier-The-Sopranos-Games-Thrones-season-finale-breathtaking-television-writes-JIM-SHELLEY.html)
I guess these two actors are good friends in real life too. Neat seeing them out of their Westeros look.
Emilia is a real beauty.
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 19, 2014, 02:11:57 AM
Emilia is a real beauty.
Yes. I always think she looks just like Piper Perabo.
Yes, now that you mention it.
I think the finale was my favorite GOT episode to date. I was lukewarm on the beginning of this season (I like changes from the books for the most part, except when it makes exciting things boring) but now I'm fully back on board. So good :D
Yes - I prefered the TV show method of dealing with Jaime & Tyrion more so than the books. But that is the only case where I can say that! :)
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 23, 2014, 11:10:57 AM
Yes - I prefered the TV show method of dealing with Jaime & Tyrion more so than the books. But that is the only case where I can say that! :)
Yeah I like how jaime & tyrion are relating but [spoiler] it is kinda strange how they are dragging out the love/lust between jaime and cersei. I like how in the book he's pretty much fed up with her at this point, and his character is more about his desire to serve well as Commander of the Kingsguard. Oh well, I'm sure they'll get more into that soon. [/spoiler]
Like Rico or Chris mentioned in the latest podcast, it is pretty cool how in the show Varys is leaving with Tyrion. I feel a bromance coming! Witty lines and hijinx will ensue! :D
Yes - on Jaime and Varys:
[spoiler]Yes since there is no Kevan Lannister - tywins brother - in the TV show, Jaime may pay a more central part in leadership in the TV.
maybe they will double up the Illyrio and Varys roles in the TV show?[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 24, 2014, 01:57:37 AM
Yes - on Jaime and Varys:
[spoiler]Yes since there is no Kevan Lannister - tywins brother - in the TV show, Jaime may pay a more central part in leadership in the TV.
maybe they will double up the Illyrio and Varys roles in the TV show?[/spoiler]
Ummm....so...at the end of Dance With Dragons [spoiler]Who are Varys' little birds going to stab to death??? They need somebody that is reasonanble to be in charge who needs to be taken out for whatever Varys has planned.[/spoiler]
Chris - the end of Dance with Dragons was great!
QE2 refuses to sit on the Iron Throne:
http://nypost.com/2014/06/24/queen-elizabeth-ii-visits-the-iron-throne/ (http://nypost.com/2014/06/24/queen-elizabeth-ii-visits-the-iron-throne/)
Cool! Much of book 4 takes place in Dorne:
http://hbowatch.com/spain-to-serve-as-dorne-in-game-of-thrones-season-5/ (http://hbowatch.com/spain-to-serve-as-dorne-in-game-of-thrones-season-5/)
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/9/5883983/george-r-r-martin-says-frak-you-to-people-questioning-his-health (http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/9/5883983/george-r-r-martin-says-frak-you-to-people-questioning-his-health)
:)
Hmmmm... I would watch!
http://www.mtv.com/news/1863951/game-of-thrones-movie-george-rr-martin/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/1863951/game-of-thrones-movie-george-rr-martin/)
http://mashable.com/2014/07/09/game-of-thrones-special-effects/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link (http://mashable.com/2014/07/09/game-of-thrones-special-effects/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link)
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/7/7/7-stories-from-the-set-of-season-4 (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/7/7/7-stories-from-the-set-of-season-4)
Speculation on who Jon Snow's mother is - I agree with this theory and have for some time. Only open if you don't mind ready the speculation:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/this-game-of-thrones-fan-theory-will-blow-your-mind?bffb (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/this-game-of-thrones-fan-theory-will-blow-your-mind?bffb)
Quote from: Bromptonboy on July 17, 2014, 02:18:15 AM
Speculation on who Jon Snow's mother is - I agree with this theory and have for some time. Only open if you don't mind ready the speculation:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/this-game-of-thrones-fan-theory-will-blow-your-mind?bffb (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/this-game-of-thrones-fan-theory-will-blow-your-mind?bffb)
Yeah, this was something that I was aboard on after the second book.
Agreed, I've thought this as well, and [spoiler] it could make for a fairly satisfying ending with Jon Snow and Danerys Targaeryn getting together and uniting the seven kingdoms with their legitimate bloodlines on the iron throne[/spoiler]
Yes but there is one prophecy out there:
[spoiler]They keep saying the Dragon has 3 - heads - so the 3rd must be that son of Rhaegar who declares himself at the end of book 5. [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on July 17, 2014, 02:18:15 AM
Speculation on who Jon Snow's mother is - I agree with this theory and have for some time. Only open if you don't mind ready the speculation:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/this-game-of-thrones-fan-theory-will-blow-your-mind?bffb (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/this-game-of-thrones-fan-theory-will-blow-your-mind?bffb)
Yeah, this is the most popular theory...but I wonder if GRRM might change things up. Waiting for World of Ice and Fire later this year!
I hope he at least gives us the 'truth' of it one way or the other.
Good link with new cast members for the next season:
http://filmschoolrejects.com/tv/game-of-thrones-season-5-cast-season-4-bloopers.php (http://filmschoolrejects.com/tv/game-of-thrones-season-5-cast-season-4-bloopers.php)
http://nypost.com/2014/08/11/game-of-thrones-actor-dies-days-into-filming-new-season/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow (http://nypost.com/2014/08/11/game-of-thrones-actor-dies-days-into-filming-new-season/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow)
http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/08/george-r-r-martin-says-the-next-books-give-him-a-lot-more-flexibility-for-killing-people/ (http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/08/george-r-r-martin-says-the-next-books-give-him-a-lot-more-flexibility-for-killing-people/)
I find it interesting that one his goals for the books seems to be killing people off.
Yeah - he seems to relish that reputation. I just want him to keep writing and finish the series.
Cool article about filming a scene from the next season, and in the end of Book 4. I am putting the link in a SPOILER tag, since the link contains a spoiler:
[spoiler]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2733817/Game-Of-Thrones-production-suffers-major-setback-Cersei-Lannister-s-naked-walk-penance-banned-Dubrovnik-church.html[/spoiler]
http://mashable.com/2014/09/05/new-game-of-thrones-book/ (http://mashable.com/2014/09/05/new-game-of-thrones-book/)
I can't wait for this book!
Minor news about season 5:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/16/game-of-thrones-flashback/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/16/game-of-thrones-flashback/)
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/10/2/acting-aboard-an-armada (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/10/2/acting-aboard-an-armada)
Link only to avoid spoilers:
http://www.mtv.com/news/1976505/george-r-r-martin-game-of-thrones-world-of-ice-and-fire/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/1976505/george-r-r-martin-game-of-thrones-world-of-ice-and-fire/)
Game of Thrones the board game:
[embed=425,349]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0XRVTacNxI[/embed]
Spoilers at this link!
http://io9.com/george-r-r-martin-reveals-the-worst-fate-that-could-be-1651431666?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow (http://io9.com/george-r-r-martin-reveals-the-worst-fate-that-could-be-1651431666?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
I started in on the History of Westeros (got the unabridged audible edition). Read by Roy Dotrice and a new voice actor - I think they are breaking us in for the new voice in case Roy (in his mid 80's) doesn't make it for the next book.. :(
At any rate, it is excellent so far!
Yes!
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/30/7131503/game-of-thrones-seventh-season-option-added-to-stars-contracts (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/30/7131503/game-of-thrones-seventh-season-option-added-to-stars-contracts)
Free World Of Ice And Fire..
http://atrandom.com/WOIAFsweepstakes/?attribution=facebook_grrm (http://atrandom.com/WOIAFsweepstakes/?attribution=facebook_grrm)
$300K an episode. Not bad - could be better I suppose!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2814923/Game-Thrones-stars-Emilia-Clarke-Peter-Dinklage-Kit-Harington-Lena-Heady-Nikolaj-Coster-Waldau-score-new-300-000-episode-deal.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2814923/Game-Thrones-stars-Emilia-Clarke-Peter-Dinklage-Kit-Harington-Lena-Heady-Nikolaj-Coster-Waldau-score-new-300-000-episode-deal.html)
Spoilers at this link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/features/10-craziest-things-we-learned-from-world-of-ice-and-fire-20141103 (http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/features/10-craziest-things-we-learned-from-world-of-ice-and-fire-20141103)
Win the new book:
http://atrandom.com/WOIAFsweepstakes/?attribution=facebook_grrm (http://atrandom.com/WOIAFsweepstakes/?attribution=facebook_grrm)
Interesting lead here - with some fan speculation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/07/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-fan-theory_n_6056464.html?1415370176&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000024 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/07/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-fan-theory_n_6056464.html?1415370176&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000024)
Some possible spoilers here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/game-of-thrones-fan-theory_n_5599082.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/game-of-thrones-fan-theory_n_5599082.html)
One more around our Tyrion - I had heard this theory before, and I am starting to give it some credence now that I think it through:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/16/game-of-thrones-fan-theory_n_5828458.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/16/game-of-thrones-fan-theory_n_5828458.html)
Minor filming updates:
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/10/21/sabotaged-by-the-sea (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/10/21/sabotaged-by-the-sea)
Spoilers here:
http://mashable.com/videos/3888576935001/?utm_cid=p-fb-ad-pr-dec (http://mashable.com/videos/3888576935001/?utm_cid=p-fb-ad-pr-dec)
Some news:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2885890/Game-Thrones-cold-hearted-Cersei-marches-castle-guards-revenge-seeking-Arya-arrives-Braavos-new-HBO-teaser-season-five.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2885890/Game-Thrones-cold-hearted-Cersei-marches-castle-guards-revenge-seeking-Arya-arrives-Braavos-new-HBO-teaser-season-five.html)
I just finished my re-read of book 4. I want to be 'fresh' when the next season comes out. One of my friends at work was sick over the holiday - and did a total rewatch of seasons 1 - 4 while recovering! Has to be 40 hours of watching. Ouch!
Good GRRM Interview:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/burger-books-george-stephanopoulos-george-rr-martin-26661454 (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/burger-books-george-stephanopoulos-george-rr-martin-26661454)
Day in a life of filming:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/20/game-of-thrones-special_n_6507116.html?1421765692&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000024 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/20/game-of-thrones-special_n_6507116.html?1421765692&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000024)
Nooo! No new book this year. :(
http://time.com/3689226/martin-winds-winter-game-thrones/ (http://time.com/3689226/martin-winds-winter-game-thrones/)
Cool video clip previewing the new season!
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-5-trailer-shows-the-sand-snakes-another-wedding-1201419467/ (http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-5-trailer-shows-the-sand-snakes-another-wedding-1201419467/)
Spoiler speculations here:
[spoiler]Looks like Varys is doing double duty as himself and as Ilirio Mopatis. Also looks like there is no Young Griff
The sand snakes look intense! [/spoiler]
Quote from: Bromptonboy on January 30, 2015, 11:00:57 AM
Nooo! No new book this year. :(
http://time.com/3689226/martin-winds-winter-game-thrones/ (http://time.com/3689226/martin-winds-winter-game-thrones/)
holy cow, what amazed me most about that article was that Dance With Dragons came out in 2011!!! I can't believe its been so long, it seems like yesterday to be honest.
Yeah - have you read any of the sample chapters floating out there? One about Arya that is great! On GRRM's website - or it was.
Season 5 full trailer! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0pLbTXPHng#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0pLbTXPHng#ws)
It is looking good!
Just the link to avoid spoilers:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2937346/Ready-fight-Maisie-Williams-wields-sword-Needle-cast-return-new-stills-upcoming-season-Game-Thrones.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2937346/Ready-fight-Maisie-Williams-wields-sword-Needle-cast-return-new-stills-upcoming-season-Game-Thrones.html)
I can't see this from the office, but it deals with the timeline on completing the books. the show might wrap before the books.
http://mashable.com/video-categories/featured/videos/4031894016001/?utm_cid=p-fb-ad-gs-pr (http://mashable.com/video-categories/featured/videos/4031894016001/?utm_cid=p-fb-ad-gs-pr)
Possible spoilers here - be warned. An original letter from GRRM to his publisher in 1993 detailing his original vision for the story, and characters who survive:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/05/the-original-plot-for-game-of-thrones-has-been-revealed (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/05/the-original-plot-for-game-of-thrones-has-been-revealed)
Quote from: Bromptonboy on February 05, 2015, 05:29:34 AM
I can't see this from the office, but it deals with the timeline on completing the books. the show might wrap before the books.
http://mashable.com/video-categories/featured/videos/4031894016001/?utm_cid=p-fb-ad-gs-pr (http://mashable.com/video-categories/featured/videos/4031894016001/?utm_cid=p-fb-ad-gs-pr)
Arrgh! Was just able to watch this. :(
Link only here: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/02/16/george-rr-martin-warns-game-thrones-season-5-will-surprise-0?asdf (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/02/16/george-rr-martin-warns-game-thrones-season-5-will-surprise-0?asdf)
Spoilers at this link - read at your peril:
http://www.mtv.com/news/2051582/game-of-thrones-coldhands-benjen-stark/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_373458&xrs=mtvnewszergnetext (http://www.mtv.com/news/2051582/game-of-thrones-coldhands-benjen-stark/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_373458&xrs=mtvnewszergnetext)
More of the same about characters dieing on TV that don't die in the books:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2956472/Favourites-die-GoT-Martin.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2956472/Favourites-die-GoT-Martin.html)
Westerosi coins:
http://www.shirepost.com/wp/# (http://www.shirepost.com/wp/#)!/House-Targaryen/c/11127101/offset=0&sort=normal
Sneak peak:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2972674/FIRST-LOOK-New-Game-Thrones-teasers-reveal-tense-scenes-Jon-Snow-Mance-Rayder-Brienne-Tarth-ahead-season-five.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2972674/FIRST-LOOK-New-Game-Thrones-teasers-reveal-tense-scenes-Jon-Snow-Mance-Rayder-Brienne-Tarth-ahead-season-five.html)
Nice image...
That is cool. They are changing the book story around a bit I have read. Looks like Tyrion in on a ship here. Can't wait. I will be picking up HBO again as we get closer..
Tyrion was on a ship at the end of last season when he had to "get out of town." :)
Quote from: Rico on February 28, 2015, 08:52:49 AM
Tyrion was on a ship at the end of last season when he had to "get out of town." :)
Right:[spoiler]In the book, he doesn't see a dragon until the very end of book 5 - and then in an arena.[/spoiler]
They diverged from the book off and on for awhile now from what you and others have told me.
Right grrm not writing fast enough😞
I don't know the books, but I don't think it's only due to the slowness of his writing. I think HBO is trying to weave a more cohesive and interesting story as well as keep most of the actors involved. Something important to do for a TV series more than a book series.
Yes, in one instance I really prefer how something was done in the show as opposed to the books.
The books are just huge in their scope and number of characters.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/11/game-thrones-end?asdf (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/11/game-thrones-end?asdf)
The epic series notorious for shocking deaths is starting to plan for its own inevitable demise.
Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss have previously stated they're hoping to conclude the show with seven seasons. A few months ago, HBO took a step toward reaching that mark by optioning the cast for another two rounds. "We see the light at the end of the tunnel," Benioff says. "We still have a long way to go and things to figure out, but we definitely know where we're heading and the major end-beats."
But wait: Is HBO really prepared to commit to a 2017 end date for the most popular show in the company's history?
Not exactly. Or rather: They prefer not to, but will if they must.
"This is the hard part of what we do," sighs HBO programming president Michael Lombardo. "We started this journey with David and Dan. It's their vision. Would I love the show to go 10 years as both a fan and a network executive? Absolutely."
So if the producers prefer seven seasons and HBO prefers more, what happens? A conversation. Perhaps more than one. Like amicable spouses who avoid a sensitive area of disagreement, this issue is something HBO and the showrunners haven't discussed thus far ("So about season seven–" / "Hey look, a dragon!"). "We'll have an honest conversation that explores all possible avenues," Lombardo says. "If they weren't comfortable going beyond seven seasons, I trust them implicitly and trust that's the right decision—as horrifying as that is to me. What I'm not going to do is have a show continue past where the creators believe where they feel they've finished with the story."
And then there is that pesky movie idea. George R.R. Martin is among those who have lobbied for concluding the series with a feature film. It would mark a rare and risky TV-to-film leap, but Thrones plays like a movie already and has a huge and passionate global audience. The recent IMAX limited release of Game of Thrones generated an impressive $1.9 million at the box office for showing two repeats of the series in 205 theaters across Super Bowl weekend.
HBO isn't keen on a Thrones film even if it's a potential box office blockbuster, however, because the format switch could be construed as snubbing their loyal subscribers. (The showrunners won't comment on the matter.) "Certainly there have been conversations where it's been said, 'Wouldn't it be cool to do that?'" Lombardo said. "But when you start a series with our subscribers, the promise is that for your HBO fee that we're going to take you to the end of this. I feel that on some level [a movie would be] changing the rules: Now you have to pay $16 to see how your show ends."
Yet another possibility is that HBO might opt to extend Thrones with a spin-off. There have been no specific conversations on that front as of yet, though Martin has a development deal at the network. The author is currently writing the next book in his saga, although at this point he's not expected to keep pace with the show. (Martin has two books remaining and no publication dates in sight.) Since the showrunners know Martin's master story plan, they're preparing to plow ahead into some new, unpublished narrative territory next year – assuming Martin doesn't get The Winds of Winter out before next spring.
Perhaps the most likely outcome for the end of Thrones is having an extended, split-run seventh and final season — where more episodes are ordered than Thrones' usual 10, but half air one year and half air the next. This would get HBO another "season" without having to renegotiate with the cast since all the episodes are technically part of the seventh round they're already optioned for. AMC employed this strategy with the final seasons of Breaking Bad and Mad Men, but HBO used this technique first with the sixth and final season of The Sopranos, which consisted of 21 episodes instead of the usual 13. Additionally distributing the final two hours beyond HBO with some sort of theatrical run for fans who want to see it in the theater wouldn't be surprising, either.
For now, the showrunners will only say that giving Thrones the strongest possible ending is their biggest priority. "We want to go out on our absolute highest note," Weiss says. "We don't want people to finally see the end and say, 'Thank god that's over.'" Adds Benioff: "We know basically how many hours are left in this story. We don't want to add 10 hours to that. It's about finding that sweet spot so it works for us and for HBO and, most of all, it works for the audience."
For more Game of Thrones, pick up this week's double issue where we go behind the scenes of season 5 across three countries for 30 pages of content about the show's past, present and future. Get the issue here or subscribe to EW instantly and get every issue on tablet and in print. For ongoing Thrones scoop, follow @jameshibberd.
http://www.businessinsider.com/george-r-r-martin-finish-the-winds-of-winter-2015-asoiaf-game-of-thrones-2015-3 (http://www.businessinsider.com/george-r-r-martin-finish-the-winds-of-winter-2015-asoiaf-game-of-thrones-2015-3)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3001429/Game-Thrones-sneak-peak-unveils-Prince-Oberyn-s-deadly-Sand-Snake-daughters-Joffrey-Baratheon-s-grown-sister-Myrcella.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3001429/Game-Thrones-sneak-peak-unveils-Prince-Oberyn-s-deadly-Sand-Snake-daughters-Joffrey-Baratheon-s-grown-sister-Myrcella.html)
Almost time for season five!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-gReFmQEgQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-gReFmQEgQ#ws)
Going to watch early in the AM - getting up a bit early to catch it before work.
Enjoyed seeing this. As expected, we are departing from the books - with elements from both Book 4 and 5 in this episode.
If GRRM won't finish the story, HBO will be happy to do it! :)
Quote from: Rico on April 13, 2015, 04:46:38 AM
If GRRM won't finish the story, HBO will be happy to do it! :)
Right! I think they will follow the overarching story lines he sets down (since he is a producer of the show I think - or at least collaborating).
This is so awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BabsgCQhpu4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BabsgCQhpu4#ws)
Good episode last night. But I'm starting to feel some of the meeting up of certain characters isn't from the books. It seem a bit, convenient. Loved the end few minutes with Daenarys and her.....
Quote from: Rico on April 20, 2015, 03:35:37 AM
Good episode last night. But I'm starting to feel some of the meeting up of certain characters isn't from the books. It seem a bit, convenient. Loved the end few minutes with Daenarys and her.....
I am a bit luke warm so far this year. Still like it, but not as much as the previous seasons. There have been a few departures, which I am ok with as long as they make sense.
[spoiler]Sansa being seen by Brienne and Pod in a public setting doesn't make sense - all those witnesses will have tongues wagging, and it will get back to everyone that Petyr Littlefinger is harboring her.
Bron going off with Jaime to rescue Mycella - not in the book, but I can understand it.
John's story is aligned with the book so far for the most part - with some minor changes in who is opposing him.
The Arya story change a little bit, but still is sticking to her basic storyline.
The bit with Daenrys disappointed me - her peopel who adored her suddently pelting her with stones and hissing..
Tyrion is great, and him being with Varys is fine - Varys is taking that role form Magister Illyrio from the books - but it makes sense[/spoiler]
Only two episodes in so far. I'm liking it. But there do seem to be a fair amount of convenient things happening.
Quote from: Rico on April 20, 2015, 02:07:25 PM
Only two episodes in so far. I'm liking it. But there do seem to be a fair amount of convenient things happening.
Don't get me wrong, I still like it - but it hasn't knocked my socks off like every episode of the earlier seasons did.
Most seasons seem to take awhile to build it seems to me. Plus the story is kind of at a juncture point it seems and is setting up a lot to come, it looks like to me.
Good episode.
I still am having trouble adjusting to one of the changed storylines:
[spoiler]Little finger openly handing Sansa over to Ramsay Bolton. There will be hell to pay. Since Sansa is suspected of poisoning Joffrey - the queen will know Little Finger has been hiding her. In the books, we still don't know his game, but I don't think giving Sansa to the Boltons is part of it.
Other story lines are more or less in the book direction[/spoiler]
I hear you Pete, but their thinking is why have a minor character in a storyline that a major character can thrive in, and it makes sense.
What do you think of the latest episode? Some pretty big things going on..
[spoiler]Is Barristan Selmy dead?
I cannot wait until Daenyrs meets Tyrion - looks like that might be next week - or at least he sees one of the dragons next week.
Still not digging the change in story lines - the whole Sansa - Petyr thing doesn't make sense - But I am enjoying the show[/spoiler]
The Sansa stuff does seem weird and forced. They seem to be building up to something big.
Good episode.
[spoiler]That was pretty cool when Tyrion saw the Dragon. A bit strange that they were in the ruins of Valerya. Looks like poor Jorah Mormont has grayscale. So they combined his character with another in the book - jon Connington.[/spoiler]
Yeah, it had some cool moments in it. I like what Jon Snow is doing. One tiny thing I don't quite get...
[spoiler]I thought Theon knows he didn't actually kill the Stark boys. Doesn't he know that? Am I recalling that wrong?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]In the books, both Theon and Ramsey know that the stark boys are still alive. I think in the show, only Theon knows. But if he tells Sansa, that means she is not the heir to Winterfell - as he claim would come after her living brothers[/spoiler]
It still doesn't quite make sense to me. I'm also really tired of Ramsey. What a sick piece of work he is.
Quote from: Rico on May 12, 2015, 12:55:04 PM
It still doesn't quite make sense to me. I'm also really tired of Ramsey. What a sick piece of work he is.
Yes, I don't like him either. He is worse in the books.
Any one else catch the most recent episode? Wow, this is getting tough to stomach:
[spoiler]Although Ramsey is a sick scumbag in the book as well, he knows that his wife 'Arya' is an imposter, so treats her with contempt and violence.[/spoiler]
The whole series is tough to stomach. Payback is the only thing that keeps me watching.
You aint kidding..
And what is with...
[spoiler]That huge room that Arya went into with all the dead faces of people on pillars. That place is WEIRD![/spoiler]
This show pulls no punches. The Walking Dead be all like..."Whaaaaaat?"
Regarding Rico's question:
[spoiler]That was in book 5. The 'Faceless Men' - the guild she is joining - can change faces. They are 'given' faces that are attached to them, and they can change to the new face at will. :) She doesn't see that room until much later in the books - when she is further along.[/spoiler]
Quote from: ChrisMC on May 18, 2015, 02:41:00 PM
This show pulls no punches. The Walking Dead be all like..."Whaaaaaat?"
How are you thinking this season stacks up to the others?
I still find "The Walking Dead" much more emotional and heart wrenching. Most of the characters on GOT I don't like or care much about. Sometimes it just seems to be nasty for the sake of nastiness on GOT.
Quote from: Rico on May 18, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
I still find "The Walking Dead" much more emotional and heart wrenching. Most of the characters on GOT I don't like or care much about. Sometimes it just seems to be nasty for the sake of nastiness on GOT.
I am starting to agree with you - but I think the book characters are way better. Now I think the show is just trying to shock us - and they have to keep upping the ante.
Looks like HBO really stirred things up - just the link here since the article contains spoilers.
http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/ (http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/)
Same way things got stirred up with Cersei and Jamie. This show ain't for the timid, or most women out there.
Quote from: Rico on May 19, 2015, 04:36:27 AM
Same way things got stirred up with Cersei and Jamie. This show ain't for the timid, or most women out there.
Right. However, GRRM does write some incredibly strong female roles - like Arya, Melisandre, Brienne, and of course Danyres. But I can understand how many women would be put off by all the others incidents. I recall that most of the Anomaly ladies avoided the books & shows.
The show/books is rough on kids, women, animals, etc. It's just nasty a lot of the time - even some of the "strong women" are not always good. I find it interesting how this latest "incident" seems have stirred things up so much. In my view, much more horrible stuff has happened on this show before this.
Quote from: Rico on May 20, 2015, 03:57:28 PM
The show/books is rough on kids, women, animals, etc. It's just nasty a lot of the time - even some of the "strong women" are not always good. I find it interesting how this latest "incident" seems have stirred things up so much. In my view, much more horrible stuff has happened on this show before this.
Yes that is interesting. Somehow touched a nerve.
Ugggh...[spoiler]Sandsnake story line is sub-par I think. As we get further away from GRRM's plots - the story sinks lower and lower.[/spoiler]
I'll still be watching, but I get more disappointed each week as we get deeper into the season.
Hmmm...
[spoiler]They didn't seem to do much with the Sandsnake stuff - except that jail scene. Great seeing Ghost again! Oh, and I enjoyed Cersei getting tossed in jail but I'm having a hard time getting how this loony in a bathrobe seems to basically be in control of King's Landing now??!?!??[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on May 25, 2015, 01:19:16 PM
Hmmm...
[spoiler]They didn't seem to do much with the Sandsnake stuff - except that jail scene. Great seeing Ghost again! Oh, and I enjoyed Cersei getting tossed in jail but I'm having a hard time getting how this loony in a bathrobe seems to basically be in control of King's Landing now??!?!??[/spoiler]
[spoiler]If they stay true to the books, she won't be in charge much longer. BTW I think that was Varys in disguise who freed Tyrion but cutting the chain..
Melisandre asking for Stannis's daughter was not in the book - she does want his illegitimate nephew, but the onion knight spirits him away (which I bet he will do for the daughter now). [/spoiler]
I am finding that I like the differences from the books more and more. They are two separate universes and while some things are close, others are drastically different and I think I like it. I have the books in several formats on my shelves or on my Kindle, but this give me something new to absorb in a similar universe. I'm actually well past tired of waiting in GRRM. Unfortunately, I was one of the idiots that started this series when the first book was released and it's been a slow hell of waiting ever since.
Quote from: X on May 27, 2015, 08:39:06 AM
I am finding that I like the differences from the books more and more. They are two separate universes and while some things are close, others are drastically different and I think I like it. I have the books in several formats on my shelves or on my Kindle, but this give me something new to absorb in a similar universe. I'm actually well past tired of waiting in GRRM. Unfortunately, I was one of the idiots that started this series when the first book was released and it's been a slow hell of waiting ever since.
I felt the same way about Robert Jordan. I was in too deep to give up, and was reading from the beginning.
Bahh, Jordan. I gave up about book six!
I wish that I had Rico! The writing is not much compared to GRRM (not the TV show, the books!). :)
'Who killed Asmodean?' used to drive me nuts..
Quote from: Bromptonboy on May 26, 2015, 03:21:41 AM
Quote from: Rico on May 25, 2015, 01:19:16 PM
Hmmm...
[spoiler]They didn't seem to do much with the Sandsnake stuff - except that jail scene. Great seeing Ghost again! Oh, and I enjoyed Cersei getting tossed in jail but I'm having a hard time getting how this loony in a bathrobe seems to basically be in control of King's Landing now??!?!??[/spoiler]
[spoiler]If they stay true to the books, she won't be in charge much longer. BTW I think that was Varys in disguise who freed Tyrion but cutting the chain..
Melisandre asking for Stannis's daughter was not in the book - she does want his illegitimate nephew, but the onion knight spirits him away (which I bet he will do for the daughter now). [/spoiler]
Pete, I'm pretty sure the guy who cut the chain was [spoiler]Strong Belwas.[/spoiler] Great episode.
I was thinking the same thing Chris - but I rewatched that scene this AM, and he looks suspicioulsy familiar...I could be wrong though.
Wow! This episode knocked my socks off!
[spoiler]Amazing battle north of the wall, and I loved seeing Tyrion meet Danreys!![/spoiler]
Very "cool" episode! Get it! :)
Heyoooo!
I both loathed and loved this episode...
Loathing..[spoiler]What Stannis did...uggh.. very disturbing. He is move of a gray character in the books, but seemingly evil in the series now. that was very hard to watch.[/spoiler]
Love it..[spoiler]Love Doren Martel - although in the books I picture him as a wise yet suffering gouting older guy.
Danerys was superb! That was glorious when the dragon came in. I must admit, I thought her husband was going to be the leader of the Sons of the Harpy.[/spoiler]
Crazy episode - I'm with you Pete pretty much, the show continues to dish out the nasty....
But that ending.....
[spoiler]I was yelling for her dragon to show up and then Khaleesi closes her eyes and there he is.... SO GREAT that part...[/spoiler]
:)
Nice!! :)
Pie is coming..
Funny...
Hah! Iron Throne vs Iron Man..
OMG - this is frakking awesome!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=40&v=ziqDI95q6q8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=40&v=ziqDI95q6q8#ws)
That is good!
This is the "previously on" for tonight's episode..BENJEN STARK???
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1btOBSM9mrk#)
Wow, what can that mean?
[spoiler]I have thought that 'Cold Hands' was Benjen, but he doesn't seem to be in the show.[/spoiler]
So, tonight is the season finale? Is this a shorter number of episodes than other seasons?
Quote from: Bromptonboy on June 14, 2015, 04:56:23 AM
Wow, what can that mean?
[spoiler]I have thought that 'Cold Hands' was Benjen, but he doesn't seem to be in the show.[/spoiler]
It means that the creators of this show like to troll their audience!!!
Well, that was some seaon finale.
[spoiler]Looks like we pretty much ended at Book 5.
Stanys being killed was a shock.
With Danyrs, the book has a cooler ending, since in the book she has her dragon with her as the Khalisate approaches.
Seeing Varys with Tyrion was really cool.[/spoiler]
If you don't die brutally onscreen, you ain't dead yet!
Quote from: ChrisMC on June 15, 2015, 04:54:28 PM
If you don't die brutally onscreen, you ain't dead yet!
Yes, and death is not permanent in Westeros..
What if you get burned up? Made into dragon food? Head lopped off? Turned into a frozen zombie? Poisoned? Wolf bait? Where's the line drawn? LOL!
This is really, really good. Always have loved this song and it works perfectly here for "Game of Thrones." (warning - very brief nudity, violence, and of course spoilers for the first season)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Zj3nZEpfc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Zj3nZEpfc#ws)
I enjoyed the first episode of this season.
A couple of things:
Jon Snow
[spoiler]I still think Jon Snow will be resurrected by Melisandre. that was a shock to see her without her guise![/spoiler]
Arya
[spoiler]The blindness is from book 4 and 5 - and I think we all know where it is going. although in the books it is the 'kindly man' who beats her.[/spoiler]
Dorne
[spoiler]This is where I get disappointed - since the paramour has no claim to the throne, it makes no sense. In the books, I am guessing that his daughter does the same deed with the sand snakes help[/spoiler]
Khaleesi
[spoiler]She is in more of a position of strength in the books, since she had her dragon with her when she is found by the Khal. Still, this should be good! Love the actress and the character. [/spoiler]
Good points and interesting thoughts Pete. Not sure I agree with your thoughts on Snow - but who knows.
Wow, what an episode. Brutal!
[spoiler]Saw that coming with Jon Snow, but so did everyone else![/spoiler]
Boltons
[spoiler]Roose Bolton knew one day Ramsay would kill him..[/spoiler]
Cersei
[spoiler]That big body guard is going to come in handy. Brutal how he killed that jokester[/spoiler]
Ramsay has now surpassed anyone else in level of evilness.
Looks like we might get the much looked for answers on Jon Snow's parentage next week..any thoughts?
[spoiler]I have always been convinced Jon Snow is Ned Stark's nephew - the son of his sister Lianna & Rhaegar Tragaryen.[/spoiler]
No idea on Jon Snow as I have not read the books and there is little go on based on just the TV series.
Well, the biggest cliffhanger from the last book was resolved, so we know that Jon Snow will continue as part of the books and show. You're pretty much up to date with the rest of the book reading world Rico. The biggest fan theory out there is what Pete is referring to there, although it wouldn't surprise me to see GRRM change things up just for a laugh.
Quote from: Jobydrone on May 13, 2016, 07:54:53 AM
Well, the biggest cliffhanger from the last book was resolved, so we know that Jon Snow will continue as part of the books and show. You're pretty much up to date with the rest of the book reading world Rico. The biggest fan theory out there is what Pete is referring to there, although it wouldn't surprise me to see GRRM change things up just for a laugh.
As long as Tyrion makes it to the end... :0
Wow! What an episode!
[spoiler]I saw that look in Dany's eyes and knew things wouldn't turn out well for the Khal's![/spoiler]
Yeah - good episode! Things are starting to take shape.
Wow - what an episode!
[spoiler]I always wondered what happened to Hodor - 'Hold the door!'[/spoiler]
And about the Children of the Forest!
[spoiler]That doesn't seem to add up with what I recall reading - but maybe I am mis-remembering something. I thought the white walkers appeared only when the Children and First Men were already at peace.[/spoiler]
No ideas really since I haven't read the books.
Finale!!!
Wow, that was a bit of news to be certain!
[spoiler]I always thought that was Jon Snow's origin. how did varys get back and forth across the ocean so quickly? Queen Cersie! wow[/spoiler]
The last couple of episodes have been crazy! So, now we wait....
Yeah, I think the books are going i a diff direction, but heading to the same destination. Can't wait for both.
Total spoilers in this link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3915320/SPOILER-ALERT-Entire-plot-Game-Thrones-season-7-leaked-online-story-insane.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3915320/SPOILER-ALERT-Entire-plot-Game-Thrones-season-7-leaked-online-story-insane.html)