Spielberg's TV series Terra Nova Series coming this fall

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Dan, I would expect you would buy a nice bottle of champagne and pop the cork if Fox cans it.  ;)

And I'll be right there with him, and we'll drink to the lost show Firefly.... ;)

King

[Rico]

You guys know now that it will be renewed.  Just because you feel this way.  LOL!  ;)

[ElfManDan]

Realistically I don't even care. If it get's renewed I'm not gonna watch it and Fox can waste as much money on it as they want. Think I'll check out Primeval for my dino fix instead.

[X]

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the need to crap on something that someone else is enjoying. If it's not your cup of tea, that's cool, but I just don't get the need to take pleasure in something failing that someone else enjoys. I'm not saying that this is happening here, but I think it's happening too much as of late.

[Jobydrone]

I agree Chris, I stopped watching this thread right around the same time I stopped watching the show. Life's too short.

[moyer777]

Wow, the finale rocked.  So glad I kept watching.  Best episode out of all of them.

[Rico]

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the need to crap on something that someone else is enjoying. If it's not your cup of tea, that's cool, but I just don't get the need to take pleasure in something failing that someone else enjoys. I'm not saying that this is happening here, but I think it's happening too much as of late.

I agree Chris.  I'm perfectly fine with people having a variety of opinions on a subject.  But if you don't care for something, say your peace and move on.  I don't visit threads or subjects that don't interest me. 

As far as "Terra Nova" I have been not completely enthralled with it, but I do believe it has steadily improved.  And like Rick said above, I agree the two hour season finale was pretty cool and rocked in many parts.  I do hope they get a season two because I think they have set a lot up for the future.  Anyway, that's my 2 cents.  :)

[X]

As far as "Terra Nova" I have been not completely enthralled with it, but I do believe it has steadily improved.  And like Rick said above, I agree the two hour season finale was pretty cool and rocked in many parts.  I do hope they get a season two because I think they have set a lot up for the future.  Anyway, that's my 2 cents.  :)

I haven't given this show a complete watch, but last night sold me on something about it. I think that they raised my interests in the show by really raising the stakes. I really want to see season two and I might even watch all of season one.

[QuadShot]

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the need to crap on something that someone else is enjoying. If it's not your cup of tea, that's cool, but I just don't get the need to take pleasure in something failing that someone else enjoys. I'm not saying that this is happening here, but I think it's happening too much as of late.

Using that same logic, why promote something someone else doesn't like? It seems to me that lately, only pro comments are accepted here anymore. Honestly. Whenever a topic about a movie or show is started and someone has the nerve to say how THEY feel, boom. We get comments like "I really don't see the need to crap on something someone else likes". I thought this was a place that accepted all views? I mean, why should someone sit by while others are saying how wonderful something is if they don't feel the same way? Should I just keep my mouth (or...fingers!) shut if I think a show, or movie, is crap? Not really fair is it? So, by those telling others they shouldn't "crap on what others enjoy", you're pretty much telling them their opinion has no weight around here and that's crap. Just my opinion. Feel free to tell me it's crap! :)

[Bryancd]

Speaking of crap, I missed the show last night and really wanted to see it! Crap! I hope the re-air it before Season 2 assuming it gets another Season.

[QuadShot]

Speaking of crap, I missed the show last night and really wanted to see it! Crap! I hope the re-air it before Season 2 assuming it gets another Season.

Awwww CRAP!!!! :) Now see what YOU started Bryan!  :roflmao

[X]

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the need to crap on something that someone else is enjoying. If it's not your cup of tea, that's cool, but I just don't get the need to take pleasure in something failing that someone else enjoys. I'm not saying that this is happening here, but I think it's happening too much as of late.

Using that same logic, why promote something someone else doesn't like? It seems to me that lately, only pro comments are accepted here anymore. Honestly. Whenever a topic about a movie or show is started and someone has the nerve to say how THEY feel, boom. We get comments like "I really don't see the need to crap on something someone else likes". I thought this was a place that accepted all views? I mean, why should someone sit by while others are saying how wonderful something is if they don't feel the same way? Should I just keep my mouth (or...fingers!) shut if I think a show, or movie, is crap? Not really fair is it? So, by those telling others they shouldn't "crap on what others enjoy", you're pretty much telling them their opinion has no weight around here and that's crap. Just my opinion. Feel free to tell me it's crap! :)

Disclaimer: These are the views of me and as such I use the words "you" and "your"  many times while responding to the above quote. The you in question is not directed to a specific person, but to those persons that might share similar thoughts. The below comments are not meant as an attack on any specific person, but a discourse on the issues brought up. Think of this as a open letter to the ideas discussed in the above quote and is in no way specifically directed at the author of said quote.



Okay, let's use that same logic realistically. If a thread is created about someone being excited about a subject, let them be excited. I'm pretty sure that you could create a separate thread if you wanted to bash the subject. There is also something called "constructive" criticism. A lot of the negative comments are decidedly non-constructive and usually on something that hasn't even been seen yet. If you want to crap on something, there is nothing to stop you from creating a thread that is about the negative side of something. So if you want to apply logic, then create a thread where you can discuss the negatives and leave the thread where people are trying to discuss the positive and neutral alone. Or, if you are going to say you don't like something, say it and move on, you don't need to bash people over the head with negative comments for people to understand that you don't like something.

To even extend logic further, the very nature of being free to bash something because you feel the freedom of that speech is fair means that responses that your comments are not welcome or enjoyed are also part of that same freedom to say what's on one's mind. If someone has the right to say something I like sucks with out fear of censorship, I have the right to say that they are tasteless idiots without fear of censorship, but see how that quickly because a slippery slope? Just because we have the ability to speak freely doesn't always mean that we should. It also doesn't mean that our opinions will be protected as we bash the enjoyments of others.

Also, I don't know where you've been for the last few years, but from what I've seen, the default of this community has been to promote the positive aspects of things. This is why the whole Apple thing and the George Lucas issues were always hot button issues here. They were the exceptions to the civility that was going on. Even when people didn't agree with something, it was through well reasoned or well explained reasons as to why they didn't agree with said subject. It was never "I think this sucks and I'm entitled to my opinion because you get to post yours." Or they just shut the hell up and didn't comment on something that might generate backlash to their opinions.

And, yes, I am saying your opinion is crap if all it consists of if a few bashing words and little substance or reasoning. If I wanted it hear unabashed hatred of a subject with no substance to the dislike, I could step outside and listen to teenagers talk. I think that the problem is that too many people today actually think that people want to hear their every thought and idea, most don't. Most people also take offense when you piss on something that they like just because you think you have a right to piss on it.

If something is about promoting something that someone might enjoy, why not let them? I mean do you really think that someone that is looking forward to something is going to change their minds just because you decide to bash it? Do we really think that our individual opinions carry that much weight as to change the views of someone? It's not like you are adding to the conversation one single bit when you bash something without reason. Your opinion isn't going to change and it's not like someone is suddenly going to have an Ah HAH moment and bow down to another's opinion.

If equal voice to bash something is really want you think is fair, then what is preventing you from creating a bashing thread where the negativity can be freely expressed without people that don't feel like reading that crap doesn't have to?

I mean if you're really dying to say something negative why not say it with a little respect to the intent of the thread?

New show comes out:

Way to create discussion - "I'm just not enjoying this. I might give it another chance, but it isn't grabbing me. Here's why..."
Way to piss people off and make them think they need to defend their opinions- "That was horrible! I don't know what you are looking at because that sucked and I'm not watching it."

Hell just look at the entirity of this thread and you'll see people discussing a show that has divided people, but rather than spewing unfiltered hate and disgust, people are talking about why they like or don't like some of the aspects. I fully support discussion but I'm really tired of negative for the sake of negative and then having the audacity to think it's okay because other people are trying to be positive. It's not okay. I don't care if it's not fair. Fair is taking the bashing to another thread where you can bash away without others coming in for what they might see as a mini or even detailed review of a person's opinions of a subject and why.

If someone does feel that their opinions don't seem to have weight here, perhaps it's because they don't. Saying something sucks really isn't that weighty a comment. If they want to take the time and give their feeling weight by explaining how they feel, then I'm pretty sure those comments will be seen as more weighty.
If you know people are enjoying something and the positive discussion about it, why do you feel it's your right to piss on it? Why not just let them talk or if it is killing you to need to have your opinion heard, why not just say. "I didn't like it." and then move on to a subject that you do like?

And just for the record, this isn't a place where all views are accepted. There are a whole lot of negative views out there on a lot of things, people, and groups that have zero place on this board. So that would pretty much confirm that all views are not accepted. Perhaps all positive, most neutral, and some negative views are accepted might be a better way of thinking about this.

I for one think that the only reason that this board has existed for so long without rampant flame wars is because most people that come here attempt to check their baggage at the door and meet on friendly grounds. You have so many other sites on the interwebs to bash the hell out of any and everything. Why do we need to do that to one of the few islands of calm in an ocean of BS?

[Bryancd]

I appreciate what you are saying, Chris, but i have always looked at any thread as nothing more then a conversation that can take off in many different directions. In general, I am ok with that, I never felt compelled to put prohibitions against going off topic or posting any related thoughts, no matter how brief. Threads can be like Thunderdome. :)

[QuadShot]

Chris, you are so far from right about me that right isn't even a pinpoint of light to you. It's very obvious that YOU haven't read through this entire thread. I HAVE, MANY times discussed the REASONS why I am disappointed with Terra Nova, but it seems you don't care to see that. My statement was simply to point out that it seems that only fluffy I love this or love that opinions are desired here. And THAT is nonsense. I've NEVER bashed ANYTHING or pissed on ANYTHING for the sake of being negative...EVER. And wow Chris...this is a place where only positive opinions are allowed? Whitewashing is what you mean, right? That's not what I signed up for here. I thought every voice had a place to be heard on this forum but if that's wrong, I'm in the wrong place and think it's time for me to delete my account here. I DON'T want to be part of a community that disallows all opinions...good or bad. NOTHING I've said was an unabashed attack on anything ever. I've always supported my claim with MY facts on the subject. YOU want to censor voices here, then this is NOT a place for me. And you're wrong: the reason this forum has lasted is BECAUSE we've been allowed to voice our dislike for things without people like you screaming that those opinions are "crap" and unwelcomed. Thanks for that by the way. For telling me that your opinions are worth more than mine. Very nice of you dude. By allowing people to voice their own opinions, then respectfully rebutting them, with fact or humor, defuses volatile situations. But, as you so often like to resolve matters, all too often anymore it's "shut the hell up and don't dislike what I like. Your opnion doesn't' matter"...So, I'll take your direction and leave this forum and seek out one more accepting of debates. And for the record, I HAVE been one of those who are a positive influence on this board, and YOU of all people who has quite the past of being the one doing the pissing, has NO room to talk. So, Merry Christmas to all and to all...good bye! :)And by the way, Bryan, amen to your last post brother. YOU'RE interaction is great! YOU'RE attitude toward the message forum is spot on. Keep on trucking brother Bryan!! :)

[Rico]

Let me try to be clear about this....

I have no problem with people giving their "informed opinions" about something.  By that I mean I do feel it's important to actually have watched something (a movie, tv show, etc.) in order to give real comments on it.  Now, here's where it gets bit tricky or sticky.  My "suggestion" was that I really personally don't see why anyone with the busy lives we all have would bother to continue to comment on a subject that they don't watch.  For those of us still watching a particular show or the next movie in a series, we probably want to talk about it.  We want to talk about the latest episode, etc.

So, please don't think negative comments are not allowed by any means.  But, continuing to say the same negative thing over and over does seem a bit redundant and unnecessary.  Also, keep in mind you most likely will get shot down by at least someone who thinks whatever you didn't like is great to them.  I just hope no one takes any of this personally.  I respect the opinions of all of you.  We just all have slightly different tastes in things.  And that's what makes life interesting.