"V" ABC Re-Boot - (spoilers)

[jedijeff]

I thought this first episode was pretty good, do agree with a few othe others points on some weak points.

[spoiler]I liked how they handled the reveal that they are reptiles and V's have been on Earth before this arrival. I guess there would not be a lot of surprise in what they are, but to reveal it through some character we thought were human in Erica's partner Dale and Ryan I thought was a good idea.
I must Admit if I was 17, and a pretty girl was coming onto me like the young female V to Erica's son, I would probably be signing up as well.  :love [/spoiler]

[X]

I think the buildup to the we come in peace scene is what sells the clapping. When things start transforming, the people start to panic and get out of there, having flashbacks of ID4. Then when it's someone talking and bringing hope instead of laser that destroy cities, that would inspire the benefit of the doubt. If they wanted us dead, then it wouldn't have been a problem, but they didn't ... thus the benefit of the doubt. Obviously the press didn't share that benefit of the doubt, but that's why they put a spin on it and worked their own angles.

I think if you put yourself under that ship, you would be clapping too that it wasn't the invasion that you were expecting.

[Geekyfanboy]

I think the buildup to the we come in peace scene is what sells the clapping. When things start transforming, the people start to panic and get out of there, having flashbacks of ID4. Then when it's someone talking and bringing hope instead of laser that destroy cities, that would inspire the benefit of the doubt. If they wanted us dead, then it wouldn't have been a problem, but they didn't ... thus the benefit of the doubt. Obviously the press didn't share that benefit of the doubt, but that's why they put a spin on it and worked their own angles.

I think if you put yourself under that ship, you would be clapping too that it wasn't the invasion that you were expecting.

I agree with Bryan and Rico.. clapping was a bit much.. I said that to Harry when they started. I don't think people are that gullible, to believe someone after five seconds of speech, at least I'm not. Yes I'm sure they were happy that they didn't attack but everyone around the world all clapping.. with the original V the ships came and sat in the sky for a few hours, then there was contact and folks were still skeptical then they had the meet up and still folks were skeptical.. This all took place in a matter of days not minutes. That's the only part that didn't gel with me.

[Bryancd]

I still think you aren't looking at it realistically if that's a good word.
I mean you can either accept that they are telling the truth or not, but what could you really do about it? Wouldn't you side on the idea they might be telling the truth because you are still breathing when they could have just blown up a few cities and said they were taking over?

...and I still don't understand why you feel so strongly compelled to try and convince me my opinion isn't realistic. Just move on, bro!

I also don't think the end bit was very realistic. I mean, this smart FBI chick has proof the V's have infiltrated our society, they even have some V corpses lying around, but instead of exposing them immediately to the world, they decide to form an underground resistance movement? I get that they don't know who they can trust, but this is still early in the "occupation" and dollars to donughts,they could find a media outlet to to show the world the truth..unless the V's control EVERYTHING, including the net.

[Rico]

Bryan you and I thought exactly the same thing about the ending.  Heck, I would have taking video and it would have been on the internet in minutes.  Even though the Visitors have spys, there are like 6 billion people, I mean how many Visitors have they planted?  I'd say we outnumber them pretty good still.

[X]

Good points all. My wife is watching again and is looking for more easter eggs. One she found was the meeting place. When the FBI agent meets the priest, the outside of the build is 4400 Piers ave. The show he was on that was canceled before it's time. Or when he who once played Wash asks to drive and is quickly told no. We all know what happened the last time he drove in a Sci-fi movie.

As for the ending ... I was a little taken off by it, but it was her trusted partner that turned on her. I would be a little hesitant to trust others when there is proof the FBI was already compromised. We also don't know how early it is in the occupation. From the way the lead guy was rambling on, they've been here for a while, pushing their agenda, starting wars, and getting into key positions.

The church even reacts to embrace them in less than a day. Perhaps the advisors of the powerful people or maybe even the powerful people are V? I mean you could become a serious world power if you used just a bit of their tech to start a business and then rake in the money. I hope that the story is WAY deeper than what is on the surface and I do wonder what the cell has been doing.

[sheldor]

Liked the reference to univeral health care - that was funny and ominous at the same time.

[billybob476]

The show did seem a bit rushed, I'll give you guys that. I wonder if they are worried that if they take too much time to get into things (a la Dollhouse or Defying Gravity) they may have suffered in initial ratings. unfortunately people seem to be more interested in watching So You Think You Can Dance instead of good compelling TV these days. That may lead writers and directors to ty and come out of the gate running instead of pulling the slow reveal.

[moyer777]

I'm digging this thread.  We are all such geeks, and I love that. 

Great points everyone.  One thing I  noticed at the beginning.  How did the guy in the wheelchair get to the center of the stairs at the church?  there were no ramps. :)  Maybe his friends carried him up there?  hehehe.

Anyway it was a fun show, I liked it, wish we had more already.

GO LIZARDS!

[jedijeff]

Liked the reference to univeral health care - that was funny and ominous at the same time.

For me, flags would be raised if an Aline race was offering Medical care. Good intentions or not, and no matter how advanced their technology is, they are not Human, and I would be worried what effect their medical practice would have on me. I guess the V's are using the example of curing some people like the fellow in the wheel chair to give others confidence, and if a person was very ill or had a condition, I could see them wanting this treatment from the Aliens if it relieves them from their misery. But for most who are health, I would be doubting that offer quite a bit.

I really interested in the Chad character (Though I keep on seeing Bailey Salinger and so want to call him that lol) . After his interview with Anna, and the conditions set on it, he knows there are more to the V's then the good gestures so far. Being the media contact with the V's will help his career, which I am sure he will be taking advantage of, but I could see him working against the Aliens at some point, depending on how much more disillusioned he becomes with them. Maybe he will be an inside man for the resistance at some point.

[batmite]

I saw the original way back when.. I liked it then and I liked this new first Episode as well.. I will be checking out the rest of this series.

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[Bryancd]

Well, the medical clinic thing the V's are doing does make sense to me. That would be a very powerful tool they could use to ingratiate themselves to the world population. it also has an almost religious/spiritual aspect to it which the FBI chick alluded to at the end of the show. She used the word devotion but you could easily have substituted the word faith. The V's are setting themselves up as an almost Messiah like figure.

[Geekyfanboy]

I'm digging this thread.  We are all such geeks, and I love that. 

Great points everyone.  One thing I  noticed at the beginning.  How did the guy in the wheelchair get to the center of the stairs at the church?  there were no ramps. :)  Maybe his friends carried him up there?  hehehe.

Anyway it was a fun show, I liked it, wish we had more already.

GO LIZARDS!

LOL.. I thought the same thing Rick about the guy in the wheelchair.. I looked for ramps as well. The other thing is how did the army get in the streets of NY so quickly.. it's like the ships arrived and there they were managing crowds. And lucky the Mom found her son just a few feet from her in the middle of New York.

Also with technology today you would think the world scientist and astronomers would have seen 29 huge ships coming towards Earth years in advance

Of course all this stuff it just things you have to ignore for the story to work and it didn't bother me but did make me think.

[Bryancd]

The other thing is how did the army get in the streets of NY so quickly.. it's like the ships arrived and there they were managing crowds. And lucky the Mom found her son just a few feet from her in the middle of New York.

x2 on that Kenny! I used to work in NYC and can tell you, the chances of them getting the military into midtown so fast is too funny! They didn't get down there that fast on 9/11, I know, I was there. And yes, probably would be tough to find someone. What was that one area anyway? They were keeping people out but were they also keeping people in? Odd.   :blink

[Geekyfanboy]

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