Galactica - Season 4 discussion (spoilers)

Bryancd · June 10, 2008, 06:09:02 AM

OK, how about this. The final five Cylons are from a future Earth where man has developed sentient machines. Man has sent the Cylon's out to seed the galaxy with humanity to propogate our species and to form a galaxy of harmony between man and machine. BUT, their experiment always ends in war and the Cylons and humans all returning to Earth, thus starting the cycle again. In every cycle there is a Baltar type of betrayl, a machine rebellion, a human savior, a dying leader, ect.

X · June 10, 2008, 06:17:14 AM

I don't fully disagree with you Bryan.

What I think is that after Adama and crew found Earth (OBSG), they fought the Cylons, made better cylons to keep the peace then returned to the colonies.

Several generations later, the rinse and repeat section of the story happens. This time, with Nukes involved, it makes the planet fleeing a little more serious.

I think that Apollo and everyone kept their names because the first Apollo and co were legends. The Adama family is one of the legacy families and Baltar is just a fall guy this time than a willing collaborator.

Bryancd · June 10, 2008, 06:33:44 AM

Chris, but then wouldn't they all know their past? How do we wipe their memory every time this happens?

X · June 10, 2008, 06:55:04 AM

You don't have to. given time and a generations of people, the details can be forgotten, or in some cases ignored if cloaked in religion.

Bryancd · June 10, 2008, 07:54:25 AM

Gotcha, so it all becomes part of their myth/religious foundation. That would likely make the Earth they are heading a VERY future Earth.

Geekyfanboy · June 10, 2008, 12:34:22 PM

Battlestar Galactica: "The Hub" Burning Questions Answered!

Battlestar Galactica by Carole Segal/Sci Fi Channel

The awesome (I cannot stress this enough without sounding like a stalker) Jane Espenson has answered your (and my) burning questions about "The Hub."

I think we all agree that this episode of BSG really kicked it up a notch... there was a wonderful blend of character development and emotional journeys mixed with some awesome cylon humor and kick ass action. So, who better to answer questions about the episode than the lady who wrote it!

Here you go — Enjoy! And, if you'd like to leave any notes for Jane (nice notes only please) I'll be sure to pass them along to her.

Questions for Jane after complimenting her on one of the best episodes ever: How many scenes were deleted? (I wanted to see Laura's face when she heard "Husker" on the radio.) Other question: Was Laura in her hallucinations wearing the scarf that Emily gave her in "Faith?"
Jane Espenson: Oh, there were many deleted scenes, but the one you're talking about never existed. I wouldn't want to write that for fear of undercutting the moment of her seeing him step off the Raptor. With those kinds of moments you have to pick-and-choose since they're so emotionally similar. The scarf? Oh, was she? I didn't notice. That's cool if it's true! The wonderful thing about this show is that everyone involved is working in their own arena to make everything resonate, so it's entirely possible that that happened, but I was not aware of it.

What happened to Boomer after D'Anna killed Cavil? Did she escape?
Espenson: She certainly would've had time to. Heck, there was even time for Cavil to download, I suppose. Huh. How 'bout that.

What is the "Goo-Bath" made of?
Espenson: Oh, I asked that too, and now I forget. It comes in big buckets and they heat it up and you can't get it in your eyes. That's all I remember. It's also, mercifully, odorless.

How far they are taking Baltar as the Christ-figure? (Him lying there bleeding from the wrists and the side. Interesting...)
Espenson: I would've called it an abdominal wound, myself.

Why don't they try to treat Roslin's cancer again with Caprica Six's fetal blood cells?
Espenson: It's too advanced.

Was Natalie close enough to the hub or some other resurrection ship at the time of her death that she was able to download? Are there any more Natalies/Ginas?
Espenson: No, Natalie was too far away to download. And do you mean are there other Sixes with that more natural hair color? Oh, I'm sure there are. Sixes are available in a wide variety of hair colors and styles. I suspect there are also platinum Simons and perm Dorals... we just haven't seen 'em.

Knowing that Jane Espenson wrote this, I couldn't help but feel a tinge of Buffy. One of the first scenes where Roslin was in her dreamy vision, walking though a deserted Galactica, and she was talking about having morality on her shoulders (can't recall the exact dialogue) was totally reminiscent of Buffy tone and texture. Made me smile.
Espenson: Oh, that's interesting. I guess it was a bit vision-questy, like when Giles took Buffy to the desert where he did the hokey-poke

X · June 10, 2008, 02:58:33 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2008, 07:54:25 AM
Gotcha, so it all becomes part of their myth/religious foundation. That would likely make the Earth they are heading a VERY future Earth.

I'm betting that it is future Earth and I would be shocked if it wasn't.

wraith1701 · June 11, 2008, 03:42:54 AM

Quote from: Just X on June 10, 2008, 02:58:33 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2008, 07:54:25 AM
Gotcha, so it all becomes part of their myth/religious foundation. That would likely make the Earth they are heading a VERY future Earth.

I'm betting that it is future Earth and I would be shocked if it wasn't.

Everything you guys point out seems feasible, but I'm not sure that I like the idea of the original BSG being part of the show's continuity. I'm personally hoping that the Earth they discover is in the distant past.

billybob476 · June 11, 2008, 05:33:25 AM

Maybe it'll be 1980 when they get there...

Rico · June 11, 2008, 06:17:45 AM

The easy answer is it's a future Earth, long abandoned when humans went to the stars. At least that seems to simplest answer.

billybob476 · June 11, 2008, 07:31:55 AM

Well, Galactica has never let us down by going with the simple answer.

X · June 11, 2008, 07:40:27 AM

I'm willing to bet that it's future Earth and I'm hoping that they use that as a means to connect the two series.

wraith1701 · June 11, 2008, 02:26:03 PM

I like the idea of them settling down on earth in the distant past. The religion of the colonists could be presented as being the origin of our current myths about the olympic pantheon.

Bromptonboy · June 12, 2008, 07:27:24 AM

I am thinking they won't let us see too much of Earth - other than the fleet orbiting Earth - and leave the rest to our imagination.

Geekyfanboy · June 13, 2008, 02:10:20 PM

"Galactica" Expanded In 2009
By Garth FranklinFriday, June 13th 2008 9:35am

The Chicago Tribune reports that the remaining episodes of "Battlestar Galactica" will be expanded.

The series airs its mid-fourth season finale tonight and many have been left wondering when the final ten episodes would air.

Now it seemse that the final episode of the series could clock in at three hours, two of which will be added on bringing the episode count to twelve.

Also reports of further TV movies have been solidified with at least one pretty much set to be made this year.

Finally comes word from E! Online that the final episodes, no matter what the length, will be going to air in the first quarter of 2009.