Star Wars Revenge of the Sith

[Blackride]

But again, I think it's now even more clear (especially after Jen's info) that Mace had Palpy beat.  Only due to Anakin's intervention was he able to beat Mace.  I think this also is the big reason Mace didn't want Anakin to go with them to arrest Palpy.  He knew Anakin was conflicted and not strong enough to resist Palpy's manipulations.

If that's true then that's some bad acting. imo

I need to go get the book and see if they expand on it at all.

[Jen]

Also, if Palpatine was all powerful...why would he need Anakan? He could just rule his roost alone, without the worry of having another Sith waiting to challenge his power.

[billybob476]

"Always two there are; no more, no less: a master and an apprentice."

Yoda rules. It's the way of things. No questions.

Here is the full explanation of the "rule of two":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_two

[Jen]

"Always two there are; no more, no less: a master and an apprentice."

Yoda rules. It's the way of things. No questions.

Here is the full explanation of the "rule of two":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_two

Geez I know that.   ::)

If he were all powerful would Palpatine waste the time to turn Anakin? I don't think soâ€"he needed him to defeat the Jedi and establish himself as the emperor.

[billybob476]

And later on Vader would try and do the same with Luke. However Luke seemed to think that falling into an endless abyss was preferable to ruling the galaxy with his dad.

[Jen]

True, but Palpatine wanted a younger, more powerful apprentice. Vader was his thug and he was getting old. The same thing happened to Duku.

[markinro]

Isn't it possible Papa Palpatine :) could have seen this future event ?

[billybob476]

Isn't it possible Papa Palpatine :) could have seen this future event ?

Maybe, however always in motion is the future. I think Vader was actually serious when he told Luke they'd overthrow the emperor. Lucas mentioned something about it in the ESB commentary. Then Vader would become the master and Luke the apprentice. Vader couldn't on his own becuase of his injuries. He needed Luke to be his weapon.

[Blackride]

I honestly love these discussions :)...even if you don't agree with me :)

[billybob476]

I can debate Star Wars all day.

[Rico]

Yep - good discussion here.  Just realized this should be in the Star Wars section.  Moving it.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Mace had the Emperor down.  End of story.  You could see the fear in his eyes and trust me, it wasn't acting.  Its a pity Yoda didn't get him.

King Linksr

[X]

For the ultimate Sith master, his students kind of sucked. The ONLY ones with any longevity were trained by Yoda or his heirs. The one he trained on his own got killed by a padawan.

[X]

Also, the emperor used political power, not sith power to seize control. In point of fact, with out the extended universe to count on, he only ever displayed a bit of lightning.

[Blackride]

Also, the emperor used political power, not sith power to seize control. In point of fact, with out the extended universe to count on, he only ever displayed a bit of lightning.

He ised his Sith power to hide himself and his intentions from Yoda and the rest of the senate.