iPhone 4G?

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KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.

Umm......why?  That seems really silly to me. 
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Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on July 01, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.

Umm......why?  That seems really silly to me. 
When you sell a defective product and also sell the solution to that defect from day 1, consumers will be upset. It shows they knew of a problem that they then decided to charge you more to fix.

KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: Just X on July 01, 2010, 10:43:51 AM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on July 01, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.

Umm......why?  That seems really silly to me. 
When you sell a defective product and also sell the solution to that defect from day 1, consumers will be upset. It shows they knew of a problem that they then decided to charge you more to fix.

I really never thought that the case was the "solution".  Can they really prove Apple knew about the problem before hand?  Also, not all phones seem to have the problem, so it seems to be a quirk.  Idk, this just seems really...really.......off.  I just don't see this actually going anywhere. 

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Bryancd

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Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on July 01, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.

Umm......why?  That seems really silly to me.  

x2, it's such a joke. People tried to sue saying their iPods exploded as well. This will go absolutely nowhere just like every other "lawsuit" some law firm cooks up to make a name for themselves. Watch and see. Figure there are likely almost 2 million 4G iPhones in consumer hands right now. If this issue was so problematic and widespread, Apple stores would be flooded with people returning them. They are not. So what does that tell you about the veracity of these complaints? Widespread defective product or marginal issue only a handful of people seem to be experiencing?

People also tired to sue over battery life issue's with iPod and iPhone.

QuadShot

Well, I hate to put a negative note on this, cuz,I DO love the iPhone and Apple.  As I mentioned earlier, I switched to an iMac last year and it was the best decision I've made (aside of course from marrying my wife:)).  HOWEVER...my wife and I are both going to the Apple store this evening because we've been experiencing a lot of call issues.  Non-connectivity, poor reception, etc. I am frustrated, but honestly, what can I say? We all know that new techie devices are problematic at first.  There are always bugs to work out...just say Windows Vista! It's my own fault for NEEDING to be an early adopter. Hopefully our appointment today will result in something more than a rubber band wrapped around the metal. Wow. I really, really like the iPhone 4, I'm just not happy with the phone part of the iPhone 4 at the moment!

Bryancd

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That sucks Alan, and I hope they can resolve it. I know a bunch of people who have had zero issue's, so it does appear to be random in nature, let us know it goes, I would be curious to hear about customers in store experiences with any issue's, the stores are amazing points of customer contact which are very important to Apple.

By the way, which store are you going to, the Camelback and 24th or Scottsdale?

QuadShot

Yeah, one of my wife's co-workers just bought an iPhone 4 from Best Buy and has no issues.  It is spotty.  We're going to the Arrowhead store. A little closer to work...Al

Rico

This isn't a non-issue or made up problem.  It has been verified in independent labs and Apple has admitted it's an issue.  But there are variables - such as how you grip the device and of course the signal strength in your area.  I know I wouldn't be happy if I bought one and it had this problem.  Especially with the contract commitment you make.  I'm sure it will get resolved - eventually.

QuadShot

Rico...I think I'm swinging in the favor of returning...Remember, I'm a huge iPhone fan, but I am now having so many problems with the cellular AND the amazing Face Time feature that it's almost not worth the money any more.  I mean, I have in my hands a $300 32gb iPod basically.  I am pretty disappointed in Apple for putting this on the market.  Oh, I understand WHY they did, but I'm very disappointed. You're right, it is a verified problem.  The frustrating thing is that not EVERY phone has it.  Why? I mean, if it's a flaw in the design, why not every unit? I'm not tech savvy that way, so I'm truly baffled by this. Al

Rico

If you have the ability to return it without a penalty, I would.  Too much money and commitment to not be 100% satisfied.  I really think they will fix this and start making iPhone 4.1 very soon.

Bryancd

Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 01:09:59 PM
This isn't a non-issue or made up problem.  It has been verified in independent labs and Apple has admitted it's an issue.  But there are variables - such as how you grip the device and of course the signal strength in your area.  I know I wouldn't be happy if I bought one and it had this problem.  Especially with the contract commitment you make.  I'm sure it will get resolved - eventually.

No, for sure, just like the problems they had with battery life. That effected the majority of the later generation iPods and initially that was a concern, voiced around here about the iPhone. From what I understand as I don't own one, the battery longevity has been greatly improved, What's a non-issue is the lawsuit. That's kind of quickie class action stuff is nonesense.

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Quote from: Bryancd on July 01, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on July 01, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.

Umm......why?  That seems really silly to me.  

x2, it's such a joke. People tried to sue saying their iPods exploded as well. This will go absolutely nowhere just like every other "lawsuit" some law firm cooks up to make a name for themselves. Watch and see. Figure there are likely almost 2 million 4G iPhones in consumer hands right now. If this issue was so problematic and widespread, Apple stores would be flooded with people returning them. They are not. So what does that tell you about the veracity of these complaints? Widespread defective product or marginal issue only a handful of people seem to be experiencing?

People also tired to sue over battery life issue's with iPod and iPhone.
The iPhone battery suit wasn't about battery life, but about battery replacement. Apple failed to disclose that it would cost money to replace the battery and you couldn't do it yourself like you can on almost every other phone in existence.

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Quote from: Bryancd on July 01, 2010, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 01:09:59 PM
This isn't a non-issue or made up problem.  It has been verified in independent labs and Apple has admitted it's an issue.  But there are variables - such as how you grip the device and of course the signal strength in your area.  I know I wouldn't be happy if I bought one and it had this problem.  Especially with the contract commitment you make.  I'm sure it will get resolved - eventually.

No, for sure, just like the problems they had with battery life. That effected the majority of the later generation iPods and initially that was a concern, voiced around here about the iPhone. From what I understand as I don't own one, the battery longevity has been greatly improved, What's a non-issue is the lawsuit. That's kind of quickie class action stuff is nonesense.

Huh?! Apple's most vocal supporter doesn't have the iPhone or the iPad? Is there a reason? I mean if we go by posts, you make the iStuff seem better than sliced bread. Care to take the stand and testify why not?

Bryancd

Quote from: Just X on July 01, 2010, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on July 01, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on July 01, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.

Umm......why?  That seems really silly to me. 

x2, it's such a joke. People tried to sue saying their iPods exploded as well. This will go absolutely nowhere just like every other "lawsuit" some law firm cooks up to make a name for themselves. Watch and see. Figure there are likely almost 2 million 4G iPhones in consumer hands right now. If this issue was so problematic and widespread, Apple stores would be flooded with people returning them. They are not. So what does that tell you about the veracity of these complaints? Widespread defective product or marginal issue only a handful of people seem to be experiencing?

People also tired to sue over battery life issue's with iPod and iPhone.
The iPhone battery suit wasn't about battery life, but about battery replacement. Apple failed to disclose that it would cost money to replace the battery and you couldn't do it yourself like you can on almost every other phone in existence.


That's right, thank you, I stand corrected. But still, class action lawsuits like that really are frivolous.

Bryancd

Quote from: Just X on July 01, 2010, 02:09:13 PM

Huh?! Apple's most vocal supporter doesn't have the iPhone or the iPad? Is there a reason? I mean if we go by posts, you make the iStuff seem better than sliced bread. Care to take the stand and testify why not?

That's old news! I've mentioned it at some point in nearly every Apple thread we have had over the years! Ask Rico. I own an iPod, a Nano from 2 years ago, and I have a iMac here at home. I have always had Mac computers. I do not have an iPhone because I really don't need one and I am on Verizon. When I had the opportunity to switch, at the end of the day I realized I wouldn't get a lot of use out of it for either my work or personal life. Outside of work, I spend 13-15 hours per week training and racing triathlon's. I never even get a chance to play cool video games, so no X-Box or Playstation. That's my hobby and it takes a lot of time. I don't travel for work and to be honest, don't like being THAT connected all the time. Now, I do want an iPad and will get one next year assuming they add a camera. An iPad is PERFECT for me for around the house or on vacation traveling.