iPhone 4G?

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Yeah, buying an iPhone for your own personal use is a very easy thing.  Getting a company to swing that way is MUCH more complex.  Heck, I had to beg to get Firefox on my PC at work.  Umm, Mr. IT guy can you please update iTunes for me and sync my phone??  I have donuts.  ;)

How can anyone stand to use IE anymore.  Such a laggy browser.  But yeah, Apple certainly has a lot of room to grow and it'll be interesting to see how it all turns out.

King

[X]

Yeah, buying an iPhone for your own personal use is a very easy thing.  Getting a company to swing that way is MUCH more complex.  Heck, I had to beg to get Firefox on my PC at work.  Umm, Mr. IT guy can you please update iTunes for me and sync my phone??  I have donuts.  ;)

Most browsers have their issues and IE really isn't laggy if you have a good connection. I don't use it much, but it takes far fewer resources to use.

How can anyone stand to use IE anymore.  Such a laggy browser.  But yeah, Apple certainly has a lot of room to grow and it'll be interesting to see how it all turns out.

King

[jedijeff]

Yeah, buying an iPhone for your own personal use is a very easy thing.  Getting a company to swing that way is MUCH more complex.  Heck, I had to beg to get Firefox on my PC at work.  Umm, Mr. IT guy can you please update iTunes for me and sync my phone??  I have donuts.  ;)

And there is an entrenched hatred towards Apple and pathological love of Microsoft in IT departments around the globe, but times are slowly changing. :)

The same argument can be made with Mac computers as with the iPhone, in that they are more costly then their counterparts. Most PC's and laptops in corporations are of middling quality, neither bottom of the line, but also not packed with great features. Unless you are doing specific graphic work that requires a Mac, why would anyone spend more.

Microsoft has developed a lot of applications for the Enterprise world, the main one being Exchange which seems to be standard in many organizations for email. So with that they have positioned themselves to have a foot in that space. I work with plenty of Microsoft products, and I will freely admit, some of them stink, with Microsoft Sharepoint being at the top of the list for me, and I wish they would get out of that type of product. There might be a bias to some of Microsofts products, as they are common and many people know how to use and support them, that just seems natural.

With enterprise going more and more to cloud computing and web based applications, maybe there will be less Microsoft presence in a few years. For the most part, Apple has been more of a Hardware company, which has made software for their hardware and devices, Microsoft is a Software company, so it is natural for their business to be more diversified. With cloud computing, I would surmise any computer that runs a browser could access the applications. If Apple wants to be more prevalent, cheaper prices of their computers would be in order, or make their OS able to run on other hardware. I think I have read a post you made a year or so back, that being a mass computer builder was never their business(or something along that line, forgive me if I misinterpreted), which I agree. I think they have found themselves a great market right now, not sure why they would want to move more into enterprise at this time, as it seems mostly Software, which does not really fall into what their company produces. I am sure it would be a huge investment to get into more IT based software.

Again just my  :2cents :)

[QuadShot]

Yeah, buying an iPhone for your own personal use is a very easy thing.  Getting a company to swing that way is MUCH more complex.  Heck, I had to beg to get Firefox on my PC at work.  Umm, Mr. IT guy can you please update iTunes for me and sync my phone??  I have donuts.  ;)

And there is an entrenched hatred towards Apple and pathological love of Microsoft in IT departments around the globe, but times are slowly changing. :)

I certainly hope so...no clue WHY so many people are gaa-gaa over Microsoft.  Since I've made the switch to Mac, I can't for the life of me recall WHY I hesitated for so long.  Mac's are just a more reliable machine, in my opinion of course. 

[KingIsaacLinksr]

The only real software from Microsoft I have liked is outlook.  Word, publisher, PowerPoint are ok, but 07 software is not really that exceptional.

But apple Mac os I don't like that much.  Though if I had to, I could switch over to it. 

[QuadShot]

The only real software from Microsoft I have liked is outlook.  Word, publisher, PowerPoint are ok, but 07 software is not really that exceptional.

But apple Mac os I don't like that much.  Though if I had to, I could switch over to it. 

Office for the Mac is actually pretty good.  It's a little more user friendly then Windows Office. I have a small video productions company on the side, so the Mac has been a God send for editing and producing...

[Bryancd]

With enterprise going more and more to cloud computing and web based applications, maybe there will be less Microsoft presence in a few years. For the most part, Apple has been more of a Hardware company, which has made software for their hardware and devices, Microsoft is a Software company, so it is natural for their business to be more diversified. With cloud computing, I would surmise any computer that runs a browser could access the applications. If Apple wants to be more prevalent, cheaper prices of their computers would be in order, or make their OS able to run on other hardware. I think I have read a post you made a year or so back, that being a mass computer builder was never their business(or something along that line, forgive me if I misinterpreted), which I agree. I think they have found themselves a great market right now, not sure why they would want to move more into enterprise at this time, as it seems mostly Software, which does not really fall into what their company produces. I am sure it would be a huge investment to get into more IT based software.

Again just my  :2cents :)

Apple will never allow their OS to be run on anything other then their machines. You guys are thinking too broadly. Apple doesn't need to be 45% of the enterprise space like it is in the consumer space. They can be 5%, which would be a couple 100% growth rate in that space and be very profitable to them. As said, I know of many white collar corporations for whom the cache of having iPhones in the hands of their top employees and executives, especially when the CEO's are using one for their personal use and love it, are taking a serious look at the platform. There's a LOT of $ in my industry and others like mine, these are not manufacturing companies or the like for whom cost cutting is rampant. Goldman Sachs, despite their troubles, ain't WalMart, folks. You have no idea how much money financial firms, legal firm, accounting firm make. They have limited number of employees, so again, we are not taking big numbers, but it all go's to Apple's bottom line.

[X]

With enterprise going more and more to cloud computing and web based applications, maybe there will be less Microsoft presence in a few years. For the most part, Apple has been more of a Hardware company, which has made software for their hardware and devices, Microsoft is a Software company, so it is natural for their business to be more diversified. With cloud computing, I would surmise any computer that runs a browser could access the applications. If Apple wants to be more prevalent, cheaper prices of their computers would be in order, or make their OS able to run on other hardware. I think I have read a post you made a year or so back, that being a mass computer builder was never their business(or something along that line, forgive me if I misinterpreted), which I agree. I think they have found themselves a great market right now, not sure why they would want to move more into enterprise at this time, as it seems mostly Software, which does not really fall into what their company produces. I am sure it would be a huge investment to get into more IT based software.

Again just my  :2cents :)

Apple will never allow their OS to be run on anything other then their machines. You guys are thinking too broadly. Apple doesn't need to be 45% of the enterprise space like it is in the consumer space. They can be 5%, which would be a couple 100% growth rate in that space and be very profitable to them. As said, I know of many white collar corporations for whom the cache of having iPhones in the hands of their top employees and executives, especially when the CEO's are using one for their personal use and love it, are taking a serious look at the platform. There's a LOT of $ in my industry and others like mine, these are not manufacturing companies or the like for whom cost cutting is rampant. Goldman Sachs, despite their troubles, ain't WalMart, folks. You have no idea how much money financial firms, legal firm, accounting firm make. They have limited number of employees, so again, we are not taking big numbers, but it all go's to Apple's bottom line.

If it's only a handful of people getting the phones for business and more than likely at a discounted rate for bulk, and then them not buying apps or music because it would be on the company's dime, how much would they really be making?

[Bryancd]

If it's only a handful of people getting the phones for business and more than likely at a discounted rate for bulk, and then them not buying apps or music because it would be on the company's dime, how much would they really be making?

A handful?! You have no idea! Globally, we are talking tens of millions. By the way, PSA, if you are invested in the market currently and have the aiblity to move to cash, I would do so right away. Trouble is coming, cash and short term bonds are king. Maybe a little gold via the GLD.

[QuadShot]

"....Greed is....good!" :)

[X]

If it's only a handful of people getting the phones for business and more than likely at a discounted rate for bulk, and then them not buying apps or music because it would be on the company's dime, how much would they really be making?

A handful?! You have no idea! Globally, we are talking tens of millions. By the way, PSA, if you are invested in the market currently and have the aiblity to move to cash, I would do so right away. Trouble is coming, cash and short term bonds are king. Maybe a little gold via the GLD.

Woah, you can't drop a PSA like that and not elaborate. How bad is it going to be and how soon should we think about moving it?  Between my father and aunts, the family has investments in the eight digits. SHould I be warning them?

[Bryancd]

If it's only a handful of people getting the phones for business and more than likely at a discounted rate for bulk, and then them not buying apps or music because it would be on the company's dime, how much would they really be making?

A handful?! You have no idea! Globally, we are talking tens of millions. By the way, PSA, if you are invested in the market currently and have the ability to move to cash, I would do so right away. Trouble is coming, cash and short term bonds are king. Maybe a little gold via the GLD.

Woah, you can't drop a PSA like that and not elaborate. How bad is it going to be and how soon should we think about moving it?  Between my father and aunts, the family has investments in the eight digits. Should I be warning them?

Yes, technically the market has broken down and I think the S&P could fall another 10% from here and unless we see major job creation on Fridays employment data, I think a double dip recsession is back on the table. And be very worried about sovereign debt issue's in Europe affecting the global economy. The E's biggest trading partner is China, and if China looses that, then they are in trouble as well. This isn't over yet, unfortunately.

[QuadShot]

Well, remember...it IS the time of the Gathering, when the few who remain will battle to the LAST!...And our last two immortals are: Steve Jobs and Bill Gates! :)

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Well, remember...it IS the time of the Gathering, when the few who remain will battle to the LAST!...And our last two immortals are: Steve Jobs and Bill Gates! :)

Why would I not be surprised if those two weren't immortals/Gods/vampires?!  

:roflmao

King

[Rico]

It seems Apple now is being sued over the antenna issue.