iPhone 4G?

[KingIsaacLinksr]

iPhone on Verizon by early next year. You heard it here first. :)

I keep hearing this annoying rumor but everyone keeps saying it won't happen.  The evidence against it is high.  I just can't see Verizon cutting their exclusivity deal with the Droid, to get the iPhone.  CMDA tech is apparently out of date, Verizon apparently let the iPhone go originally, and this rumor keeps being heard every year.  GAH!

If it's true, would they just come out and say it already?!  I do not want to switch to AT&T and then switch right back because these two companies are too effin quiet. 

King

[QuadShot]

That would be nice, but...oh NOOOOO.  Locked into ANOTHER 2 years with ATT :(

[Bryancd]

iPhone on Verizon by early next year. You heard it here first. :)

I keep hearing this annoying rumor but everyone keeps saying it won't happen.  The evidence against it is high.  I just can't see Verizon cutting their exclusivity deal with the Droid, to get the iPhone.  CMDA tech is apparently out of date, Verizon apparently let the iPhone go originally, and this rumor keeps being heard every year.  GAH!

If it's true, would they just come out and say it already?!  I do not want to switch to AT&T and then switch right back because these two companies are too effin quiet. 

King

Not sure who "everyone" is but the best analysts on Wall Street I follow who really know Apple and telecom say it's coming in 6=8 months. Apple is actively making a Verizon compatible iPhone.

TRUST ME, I know what I am talking about.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Yeah, I've heard of the CMDA phones being produced.  It's just that we've heard this rumor for years.  If it's true, I still have some time before my contract expires.  So we'll see if the rumors are true then it's just that I'm skeptical. 

King 

[Rico]

So does this mean their exclusive deal with AT&T is ending soon?

[Bryancd]

So does this mean their exclusive deal with AT&T is ending soon?

Most likely. Here's the article from the Wall Street Journal discussing it:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304370304575152242601774892.html

And was also picked up by Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/verizon-wireless-said-to-start-offering-iphone-ending-at-t-s-exclusivity.html

Like I said, this is a lot more than idle fan boy musings, which up until about 6 months ago was all that could be said for Verizon iPhone rumors. Clearly it will be a huge boost to iPhone penetration in the consumer market. The company in the biggest trouble is Research in Motion when this happens. People will ditch their Blackberry's for iPhones.

[QuadShot]

It would figure though.  I just signed a new 2 year jail sentence, er, I mean contract with ATT and now Verizon will get the phone! But, like Bryan said, we've all heard these rumors for years and haven't seen any hard evidence that Verizon will actually get the iPhone. I agree, as addicted as many are to their Crackberry's, I think if the iPhone becomes widely available, they will toss 'em.  I just love how the iPhone reminds me of Star Trek - the "Pads" - how appropriate! :)
Hey, on a "I'm sorry to ask a simple question but I'm not that smart" note, how does everyone get the cool images in their signature line? Like Bryancd and Meds has?

[Bryancd]

Oh, that was a leftover from our Roll Playing Game, that was my character. Don't need that anymore, so it's gone! You can add stuff in your Profile Settings.

My speculation is that AT&T allowed current iPhone owners to upgrade early to the 4G with a 2 year extension in anticipation of Verizon competition next year. It buys them more time.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Oh, that was a leftover from our Roll Playing Game, that was my character. Don't need that anymore, so it's gone! You can add stuff in your Profile Settings.

My speculation is that AT&T allowed current iPhone owners to upgrade early to the 4G with a 2 year extension in anticipation of Verizon competition next year. It buys them more time.

Yeah, I have a feeling that if this is all true, AT&T is going to take a nosedive in popularity, especially in areas where they don't do well with reception.  Like mine.

[Bryancd]

I agree, as addicted as many are to their Crackberry's, I think if the iPhone becomes widely available, they will toss 'em.

...which will also dovetails nicely into my contention that IT departments of major corporations will be under more pressure to switch over to the iPhone platform, thus greatly expanding their presence in the enterprise space.

[Rico]

As long as they can get some good corporate deals on pricing.  I don't car how many app's you have an how nice an interface it is, corporations are not looking to spend more money on their phone plans at this time.  PRICE is king!

[jedijeff]

As long as they can get some good corporate deals on pricing.  I don't car how many app's you have an how nice an interface it is, corporations are not looking to spend more money on their phone plans at this time.  PRICE is king!

I agree Rico, for the iPhone to get into the Corporate area, it will need better pricing.

Right now iPhone is priced as a premium product, and part of that pricing would be the prestige of owing an Apple product. I dont see Corporations wanting to pay for an Apple Logo, when they can get another phone that does the same thing for less. Plus companies like Blackberry have many different models of phone in many different price ranges, some of them very inexpensive or free. Apple really just offers one Model with a few different versions, with hard drive size being the main difference. I am not sure if Apple could make a lower cost phone, and not even sure if they would want to as that would open up a can of worms for them and go agaisnt the image they have built up with their products of being top quality.

Also many Organizations, such as mine have invested in BES servers. I am not sure if iPhones could be used with those servers or not, but I suspect it would probably be not supported if they did work, and IT departments do not like anything that is unsupported, as that just leads to higher costs.

I don't own a iPhone, so anyone correct me if I am wrong, but I am under the beleif to update the Firmware on an iPhone, you need to use iTunes. Again, I suspect IT departments would not be wanting to run that software on workstations, since it would require being maintained with patching, and be an added expense without providing any business value past updates.

Just my two cents on iPhones in Corporations. Sure, there will be people using them for business, I am just not sure if it will be a default phone in the Corporate space anytime soon.

[Bryancd]

Oh, the iPhone will never be the largest player in the enterprise space, but right now it's as close to zero as it can get. Do you have any idea what it would mean over the next say 5-7 years if that grew to even just 5%? Massive reveunue increase similar to the growth of the mac biz. When you are only 15% of the world wide PC market, your ability to grow is HUGE. Thta's what makes this company so powerful and wealthy.

[Rico]

Yeah, buying an iPhone for your own personal use is a very easy thing.  Getting a company to swing that way is MUCH more complex.  Heck, I had to beg to get Firefox on my PC at work.  Umm, Mr. IT guy can you please update iTunes for me and sync my phone??  I have donuts.  ;)

[Bryancd]

Yeah, buying an iPhone for your own personal use is a very easy thing.  Getting a company to swing that way is MUCH more complex.  Heck, I had to beg to get Firefox on my PC at work.  Umm, Mr. IT guy can you please update iTunes for me and sync my phone??  I have donuts.  ;)

And there is an entrenched hatred towards Apple and pathological love of Microsoft in IT departments around the globe, but times are slowly changing. :)