"V" ABC Re-Boot - (spoilers)

[Geekyfanboy]

Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago.  I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long?  Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?

I don't think you can compare Star Wars with V. Almost everyone knows about Star Wars it's part of our culture. But I'd say maybe 25% of the population of folks below 30 know what V is. And you are right we don't know if they are lizards again, but I'm thinking they are.

[Rico]

Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago.  I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long?  Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?

I don't think you can compare Star Wars with V. Almost everyone knows about Star Wars it's part of our culture. But I'd say maybe 25% of the population of folks below 30 know what V is. And you are right we don't know if they are lizards again, but I'm thinking they are.

I wasn't exactly comparing them, I just was picking something from back in the 80's.  I really feel that after years of something being out you can't really call talking about it in public in some fashion a spoiler.  Another example is on the podcast.  In general when I talk about something older (as in from years ago) I don't say "spoiler warning."  But I do try to say it and be careful if I'm discussing a recent TV show or movie.

Oh - and I kind of hope they are not lizards again.  That always seemed a bit 1950's Sci-Fi to me and I think they could come up with something more interesting now.

[billybob476]

Maybe they are Cylons!

[Jobydrone]

geez lighten up a bit, maybe? the funny part, to me anyway, is that someone went to the trouble to print it out and tape it to a bus stop ad for a laugh.  Feel free to wrap it in a spoiler tag if it really matters to you Kenny

[Geekyfanboy]

geez lighten up a bit, maybe? the funny part, to me anyway, is that someone went to the trouble to print it out and tape it to a bus stop ad for a laugh.  Feel free to wrap it in a spoiler tag if it really matters to you Kenny

Wow.. when did these boards get so mean.. I wasn't referring to your post as a spoiler. I was referring to the picture. But I can see I'm not allowed my opinion so I'll just shut up now.

[X]

Not sure it can be really a spoiler for a TV show from that long ago.  I mean if someone said Vader is Luke's father now, is that still really a spoiler for something that has been around for so long?  Plus, are we certain they are lizards in this new version too?

I don't think you can compare Star Wars with V. Almost everyone knows about Star Wars it's part of our culture. But I'd say maybe 25% of the population of folks below 30 know what V is. And you are right we don't know if they are lizards again, but I'm thinking they are.

I can agree that a majority of people under 30 didn't know much about V, but at the same time those people are part of the internet generation and could easily wiki the show to see what the old one was about. I can also say with that a lot of people under 30 haven't seen star wars. I don't think that any of the 100 kids (ages 13 - 17) I worked with last year saw it at all or anything about it except for the name.

That being said, if something was spoiled for them, it's not really the fault of the people discussing a decades old property. I'd put it along with telling someone what Rosebud was or that Jesus was in Ben Hur. If they didn't see it by now, it's because they weren't interested.

Still, it's nothing to fight over ... What we should be fighting over is what is a spoiler and after what reasonable point after release is it no longer considered a spoiler.

Regardless if it's a spoiler or not, it is totally not worth getting upset over.

[Rico]

Very much agreed.

[Ktrek]

I would have to say that what was posted is not a spoiler. The majority of people even interested in this show probably already know what V is about. What they are hoping for is that the new show will surpass the mediocre 80s show and mini-series. It's like saying "Cylons are machines"! Come on...I think most people already knew that before the new version ever aired. Did it spoil the show? I don't think so. Not for me anyway! Did you know King Kong was a giant gorilla and he gets killed in the end before you watched the Peter Jackson film? Did it diminish your enjoyment of the film? We could go on and on with examples.

Anyway, I seriously doubt that most of the viewing audience looking forward to V don't already know what the series is about. The shock value is gone already. Let's just hope they can find a way to make something original out of what they have to work with.

Kevin

[Vartok]

OK, if not already noted this Sunday will be V-Day (no pun intended).  The original 1980s shows will be on the SyFy channel from about noon on.  So.... if you don't know the story you have to decide if you want to record/watch the campy original series on Sunday and then catch the new version on 11/3 (pilot), 11/10, etc.

One thing, I have been watching the original series on Netflix the last couple of weeks - they will likely improve on the original (which was good for the time), starting with the new Diana!   :love

V

Hey, V - that's me!

[Rico]

They certainly have been having a lot of ads for this show.  Saw a ton last night during "Flash Forward."  Hope the show is good.

[Geekyfanboy]

Don't forget V premieres next Tuesday.. can't wait.. DVR is already set.

[moyer777]

Mine is set too!

[Captain BJ Wanlund]

I won't be setting the ol' DVR, but I absolutely WILL catch it, even if it's up on iTunes day after.

BJ

[moyer777]

Cool article, man I am so pumped for the show tonight!


[spoiler]The long-awaited V — and "the Visitors," as the show's aliens are known — finally arrive Tuesday at 8/7c on ABC. But don't worry, they are of peace, always. Well, maybe not always. Fortunately for Chad Decker (Scott Wolf), the arrival of the genetically blessed ETs boosts his job status when the TV reporter becomes the voice of the Vs in the media. Wolf tells TVGuide.com how Decker will screw up, what makes the show different from the 1983 miniseries on which it's based and why its recent scheduling switcheroo is nothing to worry about.



TVGuide.com: How is is the show different from the miniseries?
Scott Wolf: There are obvious differences between our V and the original miniseries. Visually, the ability to generate this world — the special effects and computer graphics — it's just light-years from where it was from when this show was created in the mid-'80s. It really looks like a movie, like a thriller every week. From a storytelling standpoint, a lot of it is faithful to what made the original so compelling. It's still the same basic framework, but it's updated. It is very much about how we live in a post-9/11 world.



TVGuide.com: Have you felt pressure to make the show great in light of the scheduling delays?
Wolf: It's less pressure and more excitement. Oftentimes, it's complicated to begin a story that has this kind of epic scope to it -- the arriving on Earth is the biggest story you can tell. Every time there's been any question, we've stopped and actually made adjustments. It's incredibly rare. That costs money and takes time. Most of the time, the powers that be say, 'Just make it as good as you can.' In this case, there's such a passion behind this story and this project, that they've not just thrown us to the wolves. The result is that we're going to have great episodes.

TVGuide.com: Chad has an interesting motivation for helping the Vs. Will we learn more about his backstory?
Wolf: When we meet him and see his first encounter with [Anna], the leader of the Visitors, he's put in a position where he's forced to either give up the opportunity of a lifetime or compromise himself in a deep way. You come to understand why Chad is wired the way he is. On the surface, Chad is not necessarily the best guy. He's very ambitious, but I think the thing that makes him really complicated and fun to play is that he's ambiguous. There's a sense that he's a little up for grabs. In a larger way, he represents an idea, in terms of how much faith should be placed in our media figures. It asks the question: Is that a good idea? Or is it potentially dangerous?



TVGuide.com: Will Chad seek redemption?
Wolf: Yes, pretty quickly. As the story moves forward, we see a guy who clearly does not like having to bend at somebody else's will and tries to fight his way back into controlling this relationship with Anna. He realizes that if he controls the dialogue about what it means to have the Visitors on Earth and whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, if he can prove that she needs him as much as he needs her, then he'll ultimately have the power that he actually craves. Whether he does the right thing with that power or not remains to be seen.

TVGuide.com: Should we suspect everyone of being a Visitor?
Wolf: Yes, part of the fun of the show is your schoolteacher, your waiter at a restaurant, your own cousin could be a Visitor. I think that underlying suspicion makes for a lot of fun.[/spoiler]

[moyer777]

Alright, I really liked V.  I thought it was cool on many fronts.  Storyline was good, special efx were great, acting was good.  Pretty cool.

[spoiler]Loved the whole angle that they have been among us.   Cool.  That makes for a very cool story.  [/spoiler]