Stargate: Universe - possible spoilers

X · October 09, 2009, 02:22:23 PM

Quote from: Feathers on October 09, 2009, 02:19:11 PM
Quote from: Just X on October 09, 2009, 02:18:12 PM
Just did a check ... they said it was cut for the 8pm show because of the whole watershed thing, but was in the later showing.

Makes sense...but I didn't know there was a later show.

From what I was reading there was a 10pm rebroadcast that night and more recently like last night or tonight Sky had it showing in the 9pm slot with no edits.

sheldor · October 10, 2009, 06:51:45 PM

Watched the 2nd episode - still not sure about this series. It was ok - not use to the serious tone.
Math boy provides some humor.

moyer777 · October 11, 2009, 09:32:11 AM

I watched the 2nd episode.
There were elements I loved, and some I didn't.
[spoiler]I like Eli. I think that was brilliant of the folks who work on Stargate to include him. It's a great actor playing a very fun character. I also like the scientist, even though I think there is way more to him coming. The soldier with a chip on his shoulder is a jerk, and they have done a great job at making me NOT like him from the start. The second show was good, but I thought the desert scenes got a bit old and not much action. The other stuff was great- from the Senator's wife thing to the onboard ship air scrubbers- that was cool. I thought it was interesting that they get more addresses when they come out of hyper space and some are blocked. Leave it to the doinks on the ship that want to unblock stuff the ancients already tagged as bad. heeheheh. I guess they are red shirts.[/spoiler]

Rico · October 11, 2009, 10:38:21 AM

For me the show is ok so far. I'm having a bit of trouble liking most of the characters - except maybe Eli. They need to quickly start working together or they won't make it. I'll keep watching but it certainly doesn't have the quick appeal SG: Atlantis had for me (which I loved from the start).

X · October 11, 2009, 11:17:37 AM

I really liked this episode! I love how they are building on the characters. Having spent a lot of my time with military personnel, I find the Greer refreshing as a solid Marine grunt. I think that he does a good job showing the anger control issues that many marines I've known had to deal with after the fighting stopped.

I REALLY don't like Rush. To me, his self importance seems to be a huge character flaw that is going to get a lot more people in trouble. He's more unlikable than Rodney was when he first appeared on SG-1.

I think the Eli role is very solid.

My only question:

[spoiler] Who was on the ship and stole the shuttle at the end? I thought that the dust devil might have been an ancient doing their whole guide but not directly interfere thing, but I'm completely clueless to what's going on with the shuttle.[/spoiler]

cassious · October 11, 2009, 11:58:58 AM

So far, I'm loving this series. But, like it was previously said, the desert scenes got kind of old...

I'm also really confused about those 'Ancient Stones' scenes. What happened? Are the users momentarily transported to the Command base or what?

X · October 11, 2009, 12:06:13 PM

Quote from: cassious on October 11, 2009, 11:58:58 AM
So far, I'm loving this series. But, like it was previously said, the desert scenes got kind of old...

I'm also really confused about those 'Ancient Stones' scenes. What happened? Are the users momentarily transported to the Command base or what?

It's their consciousness that is transfered, they still look like the person they take over and it's tech that Daniel Jackson used in SG-1 when transported into the Ori universe.

Rico · October 11, 2009, 12:06:19 PM

The stones allow people to transfer only their consciousness to another body. The people actually see the original person's body, but they show us who is inside them so we know who is talking. SG:1 used them a few times.

Bromptonboy · October 11, 2009, 12:21:58 PM

Quote from: Rico on October 11, 2009, 12:06:19 PM
The stones allow people to transfer only their consciousness to another body. The people actually see the original person's body, but they show us who is inside them so we know who is talking. SG:1 used them a few times.

That sounds exactly like how Piers Anthony used to handle galactic travel in his old 'Cluster' series of books (mid 70's - Pre Xanth stuff!).

Ktrek · October 12, 2009, 06:02:20 AM

Well, after having seen AIR Pt. 3 I'm not sure I am going to like this show. So far there is not one single character I like. They're all a bunch of unlikeable jerks ( with the exception of Eli). The communication stones concept is just too contrived to make for good storytelling and I hope they drop that before it gets out of hand. And what is with the shuttle launching off Destiny at the very end? I'll watch at least another three shows before I make up my mind but right now this is looking like it's going to be dropped.

Kevin

X · October 12, 2009, 08:07:25 AM

Quote from: Ktrek on October 12, 2009, 06:02:20 AM
Well, after having seen AIR Pt. 3 I'm not sure I am going to like this show. So far there is not one single character I like. They're all a bunch of unlikeable jerks ( with the exception of Eli). The communication stones concept is just too contrived to make for good storytelling and I hope they drop that before it gets out of hand. And what is with the shuttle launching off Destiny at the very end? I'll watch at least another three shows before I make up my mind but right now this is looking like it's going to be dropped.

Kevin

Sorry that you don't like it, but the communications stones are established tech from SG-1, which they seemed to have adapted and incorporated into their tech, kind of like the ships they use and the guns. Not to mention the wealth of Asgardian knowledge that we've been trusted with.

Frankly, I think that it's good to see that they are using ideas from the long history of Sg-1 in this new show. While I don't like some of the characters, I'm enjoying the series.

I like how I thought I'd like Rush when he was introduced to Eli and how I didn't like the base commander because of how he treated Rush, then my feelings swap as I find out more about the kind of guy that Rush is. That's fantastic story telling.

At this point I really find Scott interesting because he's not perfect. He's a guy that's made some mistakes as a kid and has a lot of guilt with him. I find him one of the MOST plausible characters in the history of the franchise.

As I write this, it made me thing of someone that he kind of reminded me of.

At first I thought that this series felt like a blending of SG-1 and BSG, but it suddenly hit me that it's more that that.

This series seems to be a spiritual spinoff from the Stargate motion picture than the TV show.

The characters in that movie seem to be just as flawed as the characters in this show. I think I've been giving the series a disservice by not seeing how tied to the feel of the first movie that this series is.

A group of people with problems all their own, step into a gateway led by a scientist that thinks he can get them back. Rush is no Daniel Jackson, but it was this movie that made me love the universe that created Sg-1 and I can clearly see how this show reflects that sort of story telling.

Feathers · October 14, 2009, 01:40:17 AM

Seen Air pt. 3 now and I'm pretty much sold on this incarnation of Stargate.

It's certainly not SG-1 and it's not SGA but it's bedded in the Stargate Universe well enough to be believed and is starting to develop its own charm. I sort of agree that it needs more action (because I like that sort of thing) but, having said that, it's only in hindsight that I'm making the comment. I didn't sit through the episode decrying the slow pace. There was enough there with...[spoiler] the hunt for lime and the ship to earth communication[/spoiler] that I was fully occupied for the 44 minutes.

The only thing I would have liked to have seen...[spoiler] was the fate of the two who headed through the gate to another planet. Either way, they're stuck if they're not dead but it would have been good to see something. The whole lack of discipline has a way to go before it's resolved I think. I'm also interested to see if Rush was trying to pin the blame for the shooting on Greer.[/spoiler] Oddly, I'm starting to like Greer. He's unspeakable in a lot of ways but he appears incredibly loyal to his officers, going well beyond the call of duty on occasion. I think he's going to be a surprise in some way in the future.

The use of the communication stones is a brilliant touch, in my view, and will allow SGU to be different from SGA in that while they're stranded on the far side of the Universe, they at least have the mechanism to talk to those at home. It also allows more characters to get in on the show on an occasional basis which should be good as it looks like we're not going down an inhabited planet for a fight of the week. I can see Rodney doing a stint aboard the Destiny in someones body on some future show, or a Doctor getting 'stoned aboard' for a tricky procedure. Robert Picardo perhaps? OK, maybe not.

On Just X's question...[spoiler] I don't know. FWIW I didn't think it was a Destiny shuttle. They only have one usable one and I thought that was on the central axis of the ship so this is possibly some form of alien interloper that we haven't seen yet. Maybe it has something to do with why the air scrubbers have been scrubbing air on an empty ship for so long and explains some of the damage.[/spoiler]

ElfManDan · October 14, 2009, 11:56:54 AM

So far I'm enjoying the show, though it doesn't have the same feel as SG-1 or Atlantis. I haven't yet connected with many of the characters, the only two so far I've come to like are Eli and Greer, I find the both of them interesting and seems like to me there's a lot of depth that can be explored. I'm just going to wait and see with the rest, but it definitely a show I'll put on my "must watch list".

sheldor · October 14, 2009, 01:43:52 PM

Quote from: Feathers on October 14, 2009, 01:40:17 AM
[spoiler] was the fate of the two who headed through the gate to another planet. Either way, they're stuck if they're not dead but it would have been good to see something. The whole lack of discipline has a way to go before it's resolved I think. I'm also interested to see if Rush was trying to pin the blame for the shooting on Greer.[/spoiler]

yeah, that was a bit odd. Maybe we will learn in a future episode

Jaames · October 15, 2009, 04:44:52 PM

Quote from: Just X on October 11, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
My only question:
[spoiler] Who was on the ship and stole the shuttle at the end? I thought that the dust devil might have been an ancient doing their whole guide but not directly interfere thing, but I'm completely clueless to what's going on with the shuttle.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I don't think it was one of the Destiny's shuttles. I think it's an alien ship of some sort. Either dropping someone/something off or spying, sabotaging, investigating, etc. If you look closely at the portion of the Destiny that it detached from, it's a flat space, no apparent airlock or anything to dock a shuttle to.[/spoiler]

So far, I am very much enjoying this show. I was a bit skeptical at first that they were changing the tone of Stargate, but they did keep some of the humor with Eli, and you could sense a strong loyalty between Scott and Grier.

If you listen to the interview that Gateworld did with David Blue (who plays Eli Wallace), you'll like him even more. That guy is us. He was a fan of SG-1 and Atlantis, he'd watched every episode. He REALLY is a geek.

http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/just_a_geek.shtml