iPad 2

[Blackride]

Too funy getting people fired up......I prefer Amiga. They own Apple crap.

[Bryancd]

"GAME OVER, man! Game over!"  :lol2

[Jobydrone]

...to catch up in gaming is going to take a VERY long time.  And also like I said before, they should stick to what they do best.  But of course there will still be some cool games for it.  They should focus on the touch interface and tilt ability and use those things in games.  Not just ports of old games that aren't designed for the device.

The problem with the iPad as a game machine is that Apple really seems to have no stake in it's success as a gaming device.  There's no 1st party games, only third party developers FLOODING the store with any and all kinds of crap.  Even years after the debut of the App store it is still very difficult to find quality software for the device amidst all the dross.  Things could turn around with Game Center, this is a huge step in the right direction.  I think what the iPad really needs is for Apple to release a blue tooth gamepad/controller so developers could take advantage of the touch screen interface as well as the more traditional methods of control in gaming.  Then developers wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel coming up with new, innovative control schemes for gaming and still take full advantage of all the plusses of the system (horsepower, graphics engine etc.)

[KingIsaacLinksr]

None of them want to bother, they don't believe the platform is worth the cost.  Which is silly as there are more iPhones than there are DSes.  

King

What math are you using for that? There have been 135 million+ in DS sales, 55 million+ in PSP and less than 5 million in iPAD sales and 51.5+ million iPhones to date.

Math??  Facts??  I don't need no stinking facts!!  I just pull it off the most unreliable sites on the internet.  That's how I'm always "right".   :P

Ok, so maybe I misheard the amount of DSes sold....

King

[Bryancd]

The problem with the iPad as a game machine is that Apple really seems to have no stake in it's success as a gaming device. 

They don't, it's a secondary usage for the devices but will ever be the focal point much beyond quick and simple games. Whatever people like to play on their Phone they will also like on their iPads and that's about it. It can, however, help push sales even if just a little bit.

[Rico]

If you want an all purpose device get a good laptop or desktop computer.  To think the iPad can replace those things is near-sighted.  For small things, quick stuff it's fine.  And that's exactly where it should stay.

[Jobydrone]

If you want an all purpose device get a good laptop or desktop computer.  To think the iPad can replace those things is near-sighted.  For small things, quick stuff it's fine.  And that's exactly where it should stay.

Sorry I think it's you that's being short sighted here.  This generation you are certainly correct, a laptop has more options and s more powerful.  But think of Scotty in Voyage Home and his reaction to the keyboard computer.  One of the newer devices I saw the other day was dual screened laptop like device with no integrated keyboard, but two touch screens instead.  As the technology advances I think the days of querty and integrated keyboards will fade, sooner rather than later too.  The iPad won't replace home and portable computers today, but tomorrow it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it and other similar tablet devices take over.

[X]

If you want an all purpose device get a good laptop or desktop computer.  To think the iPad can replace those things is near-sighted.  For small things, quick stuff it's fine.  And that's exactly where it should stay.

Sorry I think it's you that's being short sighted here.  This generation you are certainly correct, a laptop has more options and s more powerful.  But think of Scotty in Voyage Home and his reaction to the keyboard computer.  One of the newer devices I saw the other day was dual screened laptop like device with no integrated keyboard, but two touch screens instead.  As the technology advances I think the days of querty and integrated keyboards will fade, sooner rather than later too.  The iPad won't replace home and portable computers today, but tomorrow it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it and other similar tablet devices take over.

If it advances to the point where it can replace a desktop, it wouldn't be an iPAD anymore. Rico is right about the iPAD. Sure, in the future there might be something more powerful than today's computers, but I highly doubt that today's computers will remain stagnant. It's all about efficiency and something with the specs of an iPAD will never have the power of a desktop. Sure they run longer than some laptops, but they also don't use many process or graphics demanding programs. How long do you thing the battery of an iPAD would last if it had to do something like render CG. That's a power hungry process that the iPAD can't handle.

There are tablets out there that can meet the performance of a laptop, but when you look at them closely, they are not iPAD like tablets, but tablet PCs or simple laptops with a touch interface that's running a hearty OS.

Laptops aren't going to stand still either and if past performance is an indicator of future trends, Apple will NEVER have an iPAD that can keep up with a laptop. Hell, their air books can't even keep up with a real laptop.

[Rico]

Short sighted, Joby??  I was obviously speaking of the near future - just the next several years out.  Now, in the 23rd century I doubt they will actually even need any type of hand held device.  Holographic displays will appear when needed and be at your fingertips with perfect voice command interfaces and no need even to touch the controls.  Trek may have predicted some of these things, but if you look at how tech has advanced in just 50 years, 200 hundred years from now things will be very different.  My point (which I will make once again), is I feel it would be a business mistake to try and turn an iPad into a more functional laptop type device with add on's, etc.  Keep it the simple and easy to use quick device that it is.  Let it keep filling the good niche that it is doing right now.  Hope that makes things clearer.

[Bryancd]

Hell, their air books can't even keep up with a real laptop.

But as you have correctly identified, the Air is not meant to be a full service laptop. That's why they have the MacBook line, which are outstanding full service laptops doing the heavy lifting. I'm on one right now. :)

I still think you guys have it wrong. Besides gaming or work related application, the majority of computer, using that as a generic term, use is the light weight stuff. Surfing the web, watching and listening to media, looking at photo's, ect. That's what most Americans are doing everyday on their personal technology and away from the office. Very few people are doing Excel spreadsheets or rendering their own CG at home. Making that portable and easy is where Apple and the iPad/iPhone ecosystem are killing it and that is the future for personal computing. A single, powerful desktop or laptop will become less and less desirable over time, especially with so much of the gaming community moving to consoles. I remember when PC games ruled supreme, now with the exception of WOW, they are an also ran.

[X]

Hell, their air books can't even keep up with a real laptop.

But as you have correctly identified, the Air is not meant to be a full service laptop. That's why they have the MacBook line, which are outstanding full service laptops doing the heavy lifting. I'm on one right now. :)

I agree, that's why the iPAD will never replace the laptop. I think the Macbook is a great machine. I also don't think that Apple is EVER going to put all it's eggs into the iPAD at the expense of the Mac and the Macbook. I don't think they will even incorporate most of the advances of one product into another. That's just bad business. Each of the smaller devices are designed to fill a niche and pull your further into the world of Mac. I see the iPAD as a very clever way to pull PC people into the Apple world and once they get a taste, they might want more, moving to the Airbook, and the the Mac or Macbook.

It's because of these other devices that Apple won't let iPAD become comparable with a larger machine. iPAD will never hit the specs of Airbook, which will never beat Macbook, which will never beat the Mac. Any attempt to do so would lower demand for the higher ticket item and have them competing against themselves.

[Bryancd]

Hell, their air books can't even keep up with a real laptop.

But as you have correctly identified, the Air is not meant to be a full service laptop. That's why they have the MacBook line, which are outstanding full service laptops doing the heavy lifting. I'm on one right now. :)

I agree, that's why the iPAD will never replace the laptop. I think the Macbook is a great machine. I also don't think that Apple is EVER going to put all it's eggs into the iPAD at the expense of the Mac and the Macbook. I don't think they will even incorporate most of the advances of one product into another. That's just bad business. Each of the smaller devices are designed to fill a niche and pull your further into the world of Mac. I see the iPAD as a very clever way to pull PC people into the Apple world and once they get a taste, they might want more, moving to the Airbook, and the the Mac or Macbook.

It's because of these other devices that Apple won't let iPAD become comparable with a larger machine. iPAD will never hit the specs of Airbook, which will never beat Macbook, which will never beat the Mac. Any attempt to do so would lower demand for the higher ticket item and have them competing against themselves.

Yeah, they are always looking to draw more consumers into the whole Apple ecosystem. The Pad also is the Mac computer for those that can't afford one in some respects. It's aspirational that way. A survey today said 1 in 6 people want an iPad for Christmas. Powerful stuff.

[X]

If I ever get an iPAD, I'll be getting this for it:

http://www.celluon.com/products/laserkey1_3.htm?sm=2_1

edited for better link

[KingIsaacLinksr]

@Bryan I agree with that, but I also look at the iPad as the laptop without all the fluff.  Since I don't do movie editing or intense gaming on the go, the iPad fills in the mobile gap without giving me a lot of useless features.  

King

[KingIsaacLinksr]

If I ever get an iPAD, I'll be getting this for it:

http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/

Why oh why did you have to link that??  That is AWESOME and now I wants it!!!!! :(

King