Nana Visits BSG
A Bajoran military leader has left "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" for the even more hostile surroundings of "Battlestar Galactica." Nana Visitor, who starred as Kira Nerys for seven full seasons on the space station known as DS9 in the Trek verse will take on a recurring role on BSG that will give her plenty of camera time with lead actress Mary McDonnell, who plays President Laura Roslin.
"Nana Visitor is playing Emily," said Ronald D. Moore, BSG executive producer, in an interview with Starburst Magazine. "She's another cancer patient in sickbay and [one] who Laura Roslin meets when receiving her chemotherapy treatments, which we call diloxin on our show."
Moore served as a DS9 series writer and producer, having come over from working on "Star Trek: The Next Generation." Eventually Moore also worked on "Star Trek: Voyager," before later taking on the monumental task of resurrecting "Battlestar Galactica."
"Not surprisingly, the President is making regular visits to sickbay this season, and in this story we introduce Emily, who is terminal and much further along in her illness then Laura," Moore went on to say about the relationship forged between Emily and Roslin. "Faith is about the relationship between the two women. Nana is going to be terrific for this role, and it's great to see her again."
"Battlestar Galactica" was set to return on the SCI FI Channel in January 2008 but has been moved back to this coming March, or perhaps April. How long it airs new episodes after that will be determined by the length of the current writer's strike. There has been rumors floating around of curtailing all of season four until 2009, but this has not been officially verified by Moore, the SCI FI Channel, NBC Universal or anyone actually attached to the production.
Ron Moore is getting all his friends on board, isn't he? Still, I like it when I see actors from shows I love getting more work. Nana Visitor always did a good job as Kira, I'm sure she'll be equally as good in this role.
That's very cool news. She was one of my favorites on DS9.
I just need to see Season 3 now......damn
Quote from: Blackride on December 13, 2007, 07:14:08 AM
I just need to see Season 3 now......damn
Season 3? I envy you! You have a whole season's worth of material that is new to you to tide you over until season 4 begins.
Actually, I've been thinking about re-watching season 3 myself. Just to keep me engaged until the start of the new season.
Season 4 of Galactica Ready for Spring Premiere
Written by: Michael Hickerson (SoSF Staff Journalist)
battlestar3.jpgThe long wait for the fourth season of "Battlestar Galactica" is nearly over.
Mark your calendars for Friday, April 4th. That's when the hit-series returns to the SCI FI Channel according to reports in the LA Times and across dedicated BSG blogs.
Fans of the series will notice the show is moving back to its original Friday evening timeslot after last year's experimental run on Sunday evenings.
This run of episodes will be the first ten episodes of the series' fourth and final season. The series was able to complete 13 episodes before the writers strike forced the series to shut-down. Season 4 may be divided up further to extend it into the 2009 season.
Back on Fridays! Woo-hoo! I told them not to move it!
Battlestar Back With A Bang
SCI FI Channel's Emmy and Peabody Award-winning original series Battlestar Galactica kicks off its fourth and final season on March 28 at 10 p.m. ET/PT with two back-to-back half-hour specials, with the first new episode premiering the following week, April 4, 10 p.m.
Beginning at 10 on March 28, Battlestar Galactica: Revisited will serve up the essential information on the series' past three seasons, providing the uninitiated with an introduction to the characters, relationships and backstory. Executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick serve as guides and hosts.
Battlestar Galactica: The Phenomenon follows at 10:30 and is a celebrity-studded celebration of the show's effect on pop culture. Interviewees include Seth Green, country music star Brad Paisley and Talk Soup's Joel McHale talking about why Battlestar Galactica is one of the best shows on television.
In the season-four premiere, the last remnants of humanity continue their search for a new home as the thin line that separates them from the rapidly evolving Cylons is redrawn.
Galactica's crew is rocked by Starbuck's (Katee Sackhoff) sudden and mysterious return from the dead, bringing claims that she has been to Earth and can lead them there. Meanwhile, four members of the fleet are still reeling from the revelation that they are Cylons.
Battlestar Galactica will air Fridays at 10 p.m.
CANNOT WAIT.......another few weeks
It's shaping up to be a year of Sci-Fi overdose... New BSG, New Star Wars this summer, and new Trek this winter...
I hope I can handle it!
very cool
Battlestar Galactica's Post-Strike Battle Plan
A long mid-season delay is almost a certainty.
by Eric Goldman
February 11, 2008 - Update: As of Tuesday night, the Writers' strike is officially over. Original story follows.
Battlestar Galactica's fourth and final season begins airing on April 4th, but thanks to the writers' strike, production was halted with half of the season left to complete. Now, with word coming in that the strike is likely over this week, Battlestar fans are eager to learn when the acclaimed series can go back into production and finish its story.
If the show had stayed on its original schedule, it would be completing production in March, but according to TV Guide's Michael Ausiello, March is now an early possibility for when the show will be going back into production, to complete Season 4. Eonline says that the final season will almost certainly now be split into two halves when it comes to scheduling, with the final 10 episodes airing in the fall or perhaps in 2009.
While fans will be disappointed to hear about the possible long delay, it's actually not completely new news, as even before the strike occurred, SCI FI Channel was said to be considering a long split in the middle of Season 4. The strike only seems to have made such a split more necessary from a production standpoint.
First Video Of 'Battlestar Galactica' Season 4 Out
By MICHAEL HINMAN
Feb-28-2008
The story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for the upcoming fourth season of "Battlestar Galactica."
So wondering who is holding a gun to President Roslin's head? Guess no longer.
io9 has been able to get its hands on about three minutes of footage from the upcoming fourth season of "Battlestar Galactica" which includes conversations between Starbuck (Katee Sackhoff) and both Adamas, some of the debates taking place in the Cylon hierarchy (including our first real look at Natalie), and a surprising twist in the whole Head Baltar/Head Six game featuring our very own Gaius Baltar (James Callis).
The scenes show Starbuck trying to convince members of the crew that she is not a Cylon, and talks about Earth mentioning that she felt like she had been there before. Viewers also start to get a view of the reported civil unrest within the Cylon hierarchy that will play a major role in the upcoming season.
Finally, Roslin gets a gun to her head, and you'll be surprised who is holding it there.
To see the video, visit io9's story by clicking http://io9.com/361683/new-clips-of-cylon-showdown-in-battlestar-season-4 (http://io9.com/361683/new-clips-of-cylon-showdown-in-battlestar-season-4). Please remember that there are spoilers afoot at this link, a bit bigger than what we've shared here, so don't visit it if you want to go into the fourth season with virgin eyes.
"Battlestar Galactica" returns for its fourth and final season April 4 on the SciFi Channel.
Ten stars of the hit science fiction series "Battlestar Galactica" (BSG) including Edward James Olmos, Mary McDonnell, Katee Sackhoff, Jamie Bamber, Tricia Helfer and Lucy Lawless, will present the Top Ten List on the LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN, Wednesday, March 19 (11:35 PM-12:37 AM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
The fourth season of BSG premieres on the SCI FI Channel Friday, April 4. The LATE SHOW is a production of Worldwide Pants Incorporated. Barbara Gaines, Maria Pope, Jude Brennan and Rob Burnett are the executive producers.
Ugh no offense to anyone here but Nana Visitor has got to be my least favorite Star Trek actor from any series. I thought her acting was varyingly wooden or laughably over the top with very little middle ground or depth of character. Frankly though I love BSG so much I know it will be great in spite of my feelings about her. I am keeping a very open mind and hoping she will surprise me.
Wow... really? That's harsh Joby. :D
Maybe I'm being unfair to Nana. I wonder how much of my feelings about her are partly or completely influenced by my general distaste for DS9. I remember being very disillusioned by DS9 when it first aired, and I know now it was not as much due to to quality of the show as a whole but because I was so upset that TNG ended. Remember, this was before the whole "seven season arc" was a norm or even slightly expected, and also before there was a great deal of hype or promotion surrounding the Star Trek license even with all the activity surrounding the new series. I watched TNG religiously, it was the highlight of my life week in and week out. I was crushed and surprised when I found out that TNG was ending and this I'm sure impacted my ability to enjoy and get involved in the new series. I've tried many times to get into DS9...bought the season one DVDs, watched the show over and over in syndication. It's never hooked me and I'm afraid it never will at this point.
I didn't mean to go so far off topic...back to BSG season 4...I can't wait, it's going to be the best TV by leaps and bounds over anything else out there. I hope the mid season break is not too jarring. There's a ton of loose ends to tie up this final season, and I am a bit concerned that my expectations are so high that I might be a little let down when it's all over.
Is anyone else besides me hoping and praying that the big reveal at the end of season three is some kind of hoax or ploy by the Cylons? I want Tigh to be human so badly it hurts.
As for DS9, try skipping to season 3 or 4. Once the Dominion war starts the show gets insanely good.
Personally I like Nana and DS9, so I'm looking forward to seeing her on BSG. One thing I've never been clear on is were all the human looking Cylons created from scratch or were they made to look like and replace a known human in order to slip into human society? Since Tigh appears fairly old, the Cylons didn't really have "skin jobs" back when he would of been born. So if Tigh is a really a Cylon did he replace the original human Tigh? And if that isn't the case how did he slip in since Adama at least has known Tigh a very long time?
There's alot of questions that we might never have answers to. One big one for me, is why they create multiple copies of the skin jobs in the first place. What benefit is it to the Cylons beyond keeping things simple on the assembly line? It certainly made it difficult for them to try to be sneaky about mixing in with the humans to have multiples running around everywhere.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 19, 2008, 07:09:57 AM
As for DS9, try skipping to season 3 or 4. Once the Dominion war starts the show gets insanely good.
I'm almost positive I've seen most if not all of the episodes of DS9. Pretty weird for a show I didn't really like, I know, but it goes to show how much I love Star Trek I guess. I agree the show got much better near the end, especially when they started doing Worf centric episodes.
Check it out-- This season is going to be pretty frakkin' cool...
Wow! What the frak? :o
Here are some promo pics from the upcoming season of BSG. Semi-spoiler-y, I guess...
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Cool pics!
We should have a BSG Skype party!
That would be freakin' COOL!!! :)
Oh Yeah.. I'm up for that..
Hook us up Rico!
I really think this is a cool idea! I bet there would be a LOT of participation, and it would make a pretty interesting podcast episode! I wonder if there is a limit to the number of folks who can be on a skype party line at the same time?
The canadian sci-fi show Hypaspace Weekly is running a 5 part series of promos/interviews about the upcoming season of BSG. Here are some of the first few installments -
Part 1
Part 2
Sackhoff Looks Beyond Battlestar
Katee Sackhoff, who plays Kara "Starbuck" Thrace on SCI FI Channel's Battlestar Galactica, told SCI FI Wire that she's concerned about finding parts as challenging, formidable and powerful once the show ends after its upcoming fourth and final season.
"It's extremely difficult," Sackhoff said in an interview at SCI FI Channel's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York last week. "It's a definite worry. People ask me if I'm worried about being pigeonholed in science fiction, and definitely not. That's not a fear of mine at all."
Sackhoff has had a few other roles during breaks from Battlestar, notably as the murderous Sarah Corvus in NBC's Bionic Woman (created by Battlestar executive producer David Eick) and as a doomed woman in the 2007 straight-to-DVD sequel film White Noise 2: The Light.
"What I'm worried about is finding strong, fun, exciting, inspirational characters, because Kara is," Sackhoff said. "With all of her flaws and drama, she's still an extremely strong woman first and foremost. And I think that's what I'm most worried about, is if I'm ever going to find that again."
But Sackhoff doubted that she'll play Starbuck again. "I do not think that we'll be back" in a film or subsequent series, she said. "I think there's something to be said for just ending. But then again, I don't think anyone thought Sex and the City would do a movie, and we're kind of following suit with them in ending how they ended."
Battlestar Galactica will kick off its fourth season with the episode "He That Believeth in Me," which premieres April 4 at 10 p.m. ET/PT. --Ian Spelling
Just a quick heads-up: The Sci-Fi channel is airing two BSG specials (I think this Friday) called Galactica: Revealed and The Galactica Phenomenon.
You can watch both now online, as well as a humorous summary of the past 3 seasons called What The Frak Is Going On at the Sci-Fi website.
:cylon Link- http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php)
Battlestar's End Is In Sight
Ronald D. Moore, co-executive producer of SCI FI Channel's original series Battlestar Galactica, told SCI FI Wire that knowing in advance that the show's upcoming fourth season would be its last greatly affected how the writing staff went about closing out the show.
"It informed everything," Moore said in an interview at the network's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York earlier this month. "We gathered with the writers before the season began and said, 'OK, this is the last year. We want to push to a resolution and let's talk about the end first.'"
In the fourth and final season, the crew of Galactica must contend with the sudden reappearance of Starbuck (Katee Sackhoff) and her revelation that she's been to Earth. Meanwhile, four people must deal with the sudden knowledge that they are Cylons.
"We talked about what the end of the series would be, and we've talked about the end of the series several times since," Moore said. "We keep refining it, changing some ideas about it, changing some of the parameters and just kind of continually finding it."
The recently ended writers' strike "stopped everything cold" after production had been completed on half of the final 20 episodes, Moore said. But it also provided an opportunity to assess the completed fourth-season episodes and take that into account as they prepared the final nine episodes, which will go into production in the coming weeks and air in 2009.
"It gave us a chance to step back and say, 'Well, some of those things that we were going to do, maybe that's not the best way to go. Let's go back and change it again. Let's re-break some of the story,'" Moore said. "It gave us all a chance to really step back, take a breath and say, 'OK, is this really the way we want to do the last 10 or not?' And we changed some of those things on the fly." Season four will premiere April 4 at 10 p.m. ET/PT with "He That Believeth In Me." --Ian Spelling
A friend on a BSG forum that I frequent posted a link to some serious spoilers for season 4. I clicked on the link and started to read, but at the last minute managed to make myself close the browser. I already know more about season 4 than I want to. Anyway; I know that some people are spoiler junkies. If you want to check it out, here is the link.
WARNING! SPOILERS!!!
http://io9.com/371076/welcome-back-starbuck-every-leak-hint-rumor-or-spoiler-there-is-to-know-about-battlestar-season-4 (http://io9.com/371076/welcome-back-starbuck-every-leak-hint-rumor-or-spoiler-there-is-to-know-about-battlestar-season-4)
Battlestar's Olmos OK If All Die
Edward James Olmos, who plays Adm. William Adama on SCI FI Channel's series Battlestar Galactica, told SCI FI Wire that it's not inconceivable that all of the characters could die by the end of the upcoming fourth and final season--and that would be OK with him.
Not that that is in any way a spoiler for the upcoming season. But Olmos said it would be fitting for a show that he called a "commentary on our times" and the "most worthwhile piece of television" he has ever done.
"Basically, if it's true to form, no one makes it," Olmos said in an interview at SCI FI's upfront presentation to advertisers in New York earlier this month.
Producers have been tight-lipped about their plans for the show's climax and denouement, though it's believed that the fourth season will take up the sudden reappearance of Starbuck (Katee Sackhoff) and her revelation that she's been to Earth. Meanwhile, four people must deal with the sudden knowledge that they are Cylons.
If everyone were to die? "I think that people would be shocked, and they'd be hurt, and they would be totally, totally frustrated," Olmos said. "But I've got to tell you, that's a truth that people have to realize. We may do it to ourselves [in real life]. It all depends on us now and what choices we make." Battlestar Galactica will kick off its fourth season on April 4 at 10 p.m. ET/PT with the episode "He That Believeth in Me." --Ian Spelling
I am sorry but if EVERYONE dies I will be P-I-S-T MAD. I am not saying there needs to be a flowery "happy" ending or that I don't think some of the main characters ' luck may run out in Season 4, but EVERYONE?!?! C'mon. If that is the way it ends I wouldn't buy the series on DVD (I don't have any yet), I couldn't...not knowing that everybody will die, it would seem utterly pointless to me. And while they may not care about one fans opinion, I can't imagine I would be the only who felt the same way.
To me there is a difference between "dark, gritty & realistic" and just plain dumb. And killing everyone would be dumb.
Quote from: Darth Gaos on March 28, 2008, 10:11:21 AM
And killing everyone would be dumb.
Or gritty and realistic. Not everyone lives and people often die for stupid reasons. It doesn't make the story any less enjoyable. In fact I think that there are many stories that would be dumb if the people survived.
Romeo and Juliet
Macbeth
I think that we get the happy ending way too often. If they all die, that will be a valid break from the norm that I would enjoy. I personally get tired of watching things knowing that certain people will be in that protective bubble of fate and that nothing will happen to them because they are the stars of a program.
Just X has a point. I would probably be upset, but it would be a unique way to end a season. Not everything ends like:
Happily Ever After.
But I can see your point Darth Gaos. It might be pointless as well.
my :2cents
King
Again I am not looking for a happy ending, I don't mind if characters die in the unfolding of the story but killing everyone just seems to be ......well....overkill (no pun intended). An ending like that would seem to be for nothing more than shock value no matter how well it may be written. To me it would be Moore and company saying "you think the first three seasons were dark...watch this." and that, again to me, would just seem trite. There has to be many, many different ways the series could end without wiping all the characters out. If they kill everyone I would not be able to revisit the series in the future. Yes it was a fantastic mini-series, and one of the best shows that has been on TV in a while but why rewatch it......What's the point...they all die.
Granted this is simply hypothetical at this point and I am still gonna watch don't get me wrong but that particualr ending would rank as one of the most disappointing ever.
Battlestar Galactica Specials To Air All Week
Posted by Sam on Saturday, 29 Mar 2008
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battlestar_galactica.jpgIn case you were like most folks (even those of us in the industry) that missed the "Battlestar Galactica" special programs last night on the SCI FI Channel, we have good news for you.
The highly under-promoted two-part feature will be re-aired all this week from three different cable channel sources — The SCI FI Channel, The USA Network and Chiller Channel.
The BSG specials are titled "Revealed" and "Phenomenon" and accurately describe the contents of each. The first, "Revealed," is a look back over the last three seasons of this outstanding Peabody Award winning show with a recap of all the highlights, its important plot twists and a look at each of the individual characters and actors that make up this landmark series. The second, called "Phenomenon" interviews a variety of entertainment people from Joss Whedon, the creators of Robot Chicken including Seth Green, cast members of L.A. Law and many more, including Ronald Moore and David Eick, as they relate how much this show has not only affected them personally, but also literally changed the landscape of serial television.
So, get those DVR's ready to record, unless you plan on channel surfing until each special shows up to watch LIVE...
Cast of "Battlestar Galatica" Offers Final Season Hints
Posted by Sam on Sunday, 30 Mar 2008
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Written by: Michael Hickerson (SoSF Assistant Editor)
With the end of a long wait for new episodes of "Battlestar Galactica" in sight and new episodes hitting the airwaves Friday, the stars of the show are out and about, promoting the series' fourth season and giving a few (key word: few) hints of what to expect from the final season.
Saturday's Los Angeles Times featured writer Geoff Boucher on the set of the series as it films one of the final episodes. Boucher said that some areas of the sets were off-limits to him in order to keep certain secrets under wraps and avoid the dreaded SPOILERS leaking out.
At one point, Boucher interviewed Edward James Olmos, who stars as Admiral William Adama. Olmos entered the session covered in fake blood and said he couldn't say how it had happened to his character or even whose blood it was.
What Olmos could say is that he and the cast and crew are confident of the final 20 episodes of the series.
"It is difficult to move on, but it is the correct time, the natural pace of the story — there's the beginning, the middle, and now it's time for the end," Olmos said. "We have hit so many notes, and now it's time to tie everything up."
"The show is a dark mirror," Olmos continued. "So, so dark. I was talking to one of the executives on the show recently and this person told me that they would never do something like this again, this kind of material. I have been doing this a long time, working in television, film, the theater, and this is the best material I've ever worked on in my life."
Star Jamie Bamber, who plays Apollo, said that the feeling on the set is a driving one, indicating the end is in sight for the show.
"In previous years, there had been sequences where you could kind of sense that we were in an eddy at the side of the stream and we were just exploring an angle of the fleet that we just had not considered yet," he said. "There's no available time for anything like that now."
The two stars went on to wonder if "Battlestar," which while winning critical praise and a legion of devoted fan has never been a huge mainstream success, came along too soon with its dark, bleak portrait.
"People who watch it say they love it," said Bamber. "People who don't watch it say they've heard great things and they should watch it. The show is a success, but not as big a hit as people think, not in the commercial sense."
"I think good science fiction is not optimistic," Bamber said. "You think of George Orwell or Aldous Huxley and H.G. Wells, and they are pretty bleak. . . . The show is also not simple. We don't have heroes because we examine everyone too closely."
" 'Blade Runner' was the mothership for all of this, several generations of science fiction films, but nothing has jumped on that world as much as this show," Olmos said.
Olmos went on to say that the cast and crew may not realize they're a part of something special.
"The people involved don't know how special it is," he said. "In 20 years, I think they will look back and realize what it was."
Meanwhile, actress Katie Sackoff, who plays Kara "Starbuck" Thrace participated in a conference call with the media Friday and discussed the show. Among the tidbits gleaned from Sackoff is that fans may have put too much stock in the publicity portrait "The Last Supper" featuring the cast. (This despite hints from Ron Moore than the pictures does have hints of things to come and revelations from season four).
Sackoff also said this season will shock fans and ruffle some feathers, though she wouldn't get into specifics. She did say the cast know the identity of the final Cylon and that it would be revealed before episode 14. Sackoff said she couldn't detail the exact episode the revelation would come though.
And she said that up through episode 14, things are still unresolved as to Starbucks' relationship with Anders. Fans will recall that Anders was revealed to be a Cylon last season.
But the good news is fans won't have to wait long for the answers. The new season begins April 4th, returning to its original Friday night slot at 10 p.m. EST on SCI FI.
BSG — The Final Revelation
Written by: Samuel K. Sloan (FarPoint Media Executive News Director)
Last night I watched an early press preview copy of episode one of season four of "Battlestar Galactica."
Because all members of the press who were fortunate enough to witness an early screening of this fabulous episode had to sign over our first born to SCI FI and Ron Moore, I'm not allowed to tell you anything about it until everyone can see it for themselves this Friday, April 4 on the SCI FI Channel. And, I wholeheartedly agree with that decision by the network because, like them, I believe everyone should be afforded the opportunity and pure joy of seeing this phenomenal episode un-spoiled for themselves. This is truly television, hell, entertainment of any kind, at its utmost best. You will never find anything before it as well written, directed and performed as this episode is.
So, with that in mind let me just say three words What the frak? Yeah, that about sums it up.
What I can actually tell you, without infringing on the good trust and faith that NBC Universal has placed in me in this:
As season four opens, the last remnant of humanity continues their search for a new home and the thin line that separates them from the rapidly evolving Cylons is being redrawn. Galactica's crew, rocked by Starbuck's sudden and mysterious return from the dead (as witnessed by that shocking season three finale) - and her claims that she's been to Earth and can lead them there - attempts to make sense of the inexplicable. Meanwhile, the four members of the fleet are still reeling from the revelation that they are Cylons, and they have been all along.
"Battlestar Galactica: "He Believeth In Me" begins this Friday, April 4 at 10/9 C.
H-O-L-Y F-R-A-K ! You will be blown away.
Damn you and your insider connections Kenny!
Excitement level increased.
three more days..........
Has everyone seen the "What the Frak is going on" video on Sci-Fi's web site? Hill-arious!
I posted it in this thread.. it's AWESOME
Quote from: JenHas everyone seen the "What the Frak is going on" video on Sci-Fi's web site? Hill-arious!
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 26, 2008, 05:58:49 AM
Just a quick heads-up: The Sci-Fi channel is airing two BSG specials (I think this Friday) called Galactica: Revealed and The Galactica Phenomenon.
You can watch both now online, as well as a humorous summary of the past 3 seasons called What The Frak Is Going On at the Sci-Fi website.
:cylon Link- http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php)
-Eric
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 21, 2008, 07:43:16 PM
That would be freakin' COOL!!! :)
You mean frakkin' cool, right ? I just watched what the frakk -- Friday nights are fun again.
The wife and I just finished watchin season 3 and now are looking forward to this Friday. I know I am going to be un-popular for saying this but I am sure hoping season 4 is better than season 3. We both thought that season 3 had some great episodes but mid-way through the season there were some real "clunkers".
The music for the last episode was awesome. VERY dramatic.
Quote from: Blackride on April 03, 2008, 04:58:07 AM
The wife and I just finished watchin season 3 and now are looking forward to this Friday. I know I am going to be un-popular for saying this but I am sure hoping season 4 is better than season 3. We both thought that season 3 had some great episodes but mid-way through the season there were some real "clunkers".
The music for the last episode was awesome. VERY dramatic.
Yeah, season 3 did have some episodes that were weaker than others; but I imagine it was hard to top the early payoff of "Exodus pt. II"-- that episode was incredible!
Thing is, for me, even the weaker episodes of BSG are infinitely better than just about any other new stuff being aired on TV nowadays.
Quote from: markinro on April 02, 2008, 08:26:58 PM
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 21, 2008, 07:43:16 PM
That would be freakin' COOL!!! :)
You mean frakkin' cool, right ? I just watched what the frakk -- Friday nights are fun again.
LOL You're frakkin' right... by bad. :laugh:
2 hours and 52 minutes to go... I hope all you East Coasters are loving it right now.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on April 04, 2008, 07:08:41 PM
2 hours and 52 minutes to go... I hope all you East Coasters are loving it right now.
Yes I loved it, but was on an emotional roller coaster because I had just finished watching Torchwood.
And doctor who starts today
Good weekend to be a Sci-fi fan. Oh and Numbers ghost whisperer were back too.
Well it's just rumor right now.. but I wouldn't put it pass Sci Fi.
Dragon*Con 08: 'Battlestar Galactica' Final Episodes May Be Delayed Til April 2009
The final episodes of Season Four of Battlestar Galactica may air as late as April 2009, according to the show's star Aaron Douglas at a cast panel discussion Sunday at Dragon*Con 2008.
Douglas, who plays Chief Tyrol, said that the SCI FI network has completely ignored arguably their biggest hit, adding "and the SCI FI Network sucks," which got a big applause from those in the audience.
"Ten episodes is not a season," said Douglas, referring to the first half of the season, which aired from April to June 2008. In June 2008, the remaining episodes, which will conclude the storyline for the series, had not yet been scheduled.
Michael Hogan, Richard Hatch, and James Callis seemed to echo their castmate's feelings. In an earlier panel, Edward James Olmos riffed on the split saying, "... of course they didn't pay us for five seasons." Season Four was originally slated for 13 episodes, but was extended to 22 (which included a 2-hour movie).
The series finale is said to be a tear-jerker, according to science adviser/consultant, Kevin Grazier.
"I don't know anyone who hasn't cried after reading the final episode script," Grazier said.
I've always expected it wouldn't air until sometime in early 2009. April seems a bit far, but we will see.
L-A-M-E
Any news on the movie?
Battlestar Rumors Debunked
SCI FI Channel is calling "inaccurate" rumors that the second half of Battlestar Galactica's fourth and final season will be delayed and confirmed again that the original series will return with new episodes in January 2009.
Several Web sites, including io9 and Galactica Sitrep, have posted the rumors, reportedly based on comments made by Battlestar cast member Aaron Douglas at Dragon*Con.
The reports are erroneous, the channel confirmed to SCI FI Wire. "It is still slated to return January 2009," a spokesman for the channel said.
But the cast were obviously annoyed at something.
I can wait until January but April is just pushing us rowdy geeks too far >:(.
SPOILER ALERT?? Did BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Actor Aaron Douglas Give Away Too Much To KUFO Radio Nerds??
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Aaron Douglas, who plays Cylon Galen Tyrol on "Battlestar Galactica," may have forgotten what was revealed at the end of 4.10 (the series' mid-season finale, which hit SciFi June 13) and what was shot for 4.11, which hits SciFi in January.
Earth is the Cylon homeworld, Douglas tells KUFO-FM radio personalities Cort and Fatboy.
Excerpt:
Q. Tell me this. Do we ever get to see the Cylon homeworld?
AARON DOUGLAS: You did at the end of the middle of season four.
Q. (pause) Wow! Really? You're saying Earth is the Cylon homeworld?
AD: Earth, in the scriptures, is the Cylon homeworld. Yeah, they say they found evidence, they found other people, and they're all Cylon. Or they found bones and stuff, scattered all around, and they're Cylon.
Q. Wow!
AD: Did you not listen to that – did you not watch that?
Q. That was not made clear! Yeah, I missed that! Yeah! I saw everybody standing around ...
AD: Watch the last 10 minutes. They say, when they're digging in the, all that kind of stuff.
Q. The last thing they showed was everybody looking pissed because everything looks destroyed. I didn't get that they were pissed because everything was Cylon. Everything was destroyed because there was like a Cylon civil war that caused them to go forth and ...
AD: Tune in and watch.
Haha..oops.
Ahh, BSG... I haven't forgotten you! :cylon
Not much new news, but here's a download link to a recent interview with BSG composer Bear McCreary- http://www.geekinthecity.com/media/Bear_Interview.mp3 (http://www.geekinthecity.com/media/Bear_Interview.mp3) (right-click/save link as)
Interview courtesy of Geek In The City (http://www.geekinthecity.com/)-
Quote from: Geek In The City
October 10, 2008 6:49 PM :: Aaron Duran
Talking With Bear McCreary
Aaron, your friendly neighborhood Geek here, with an exclusive interview with composer; Bear McCreary. Thought of by many as the future of film and television music, Bear shares his thoughts on why the music from Battlestar Galactica resonates with so many... But that's not all...
Want to learn what Stu Phillips has to do with the final 10 episodes of Battlestar Galactica?
What frakking character do we learn is related to Bear?
Will Halo 4 have Taiko Drums?
Which Mega-Man character never fails Mr. McCreary?
Want to be able to challenge Bear's Rockstar band on XBox Live?
Want to hear what the FINAL EPISODE of BSG sounds like?
You can learn all of the above and more...
...Is it 2009 yet?
It's funny but I started to finish off the last few of the Ron Moore commentaries I hadn't listened to yet for season 4 on my ipod this week. Interesting stuff and always worth hearing.
I agree. I finally listened to the mid-season finale podcast a few days ago.
Weird thing is, it looks like RDM skipped commentaries for several episodes this time around. I wonder if the missing ones are included in the DVD box set?
FINALLY!!!!! I hope it's true...
EW reveals BSG return date
October 15, 2008 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV
In this morning's Ask Ausiello column at Entertainment Weekly, Michael Ausiello revealed that inside sources at SciFi have confirmed that "Battlestar Galactica" will return for the second half of its fourth and final season on January 16th.
According to Ausiello, the series will return in its 10 p.m. EST Friday evening time slot and the columnist went on to say that according his calculations the series finale would air on Friday, March 20th.
SciFi has not confirmed or denied this story.
Lord I hope so....3 more months....not too bad considering that this is a busy time of year so it should go by fairly quickly.....fairly.
IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!!
Battlestar Returns Jan. 16
Battlestar Galactica returns at 10 p.m. ET/PT on Jan. 16, 2009, with the remaining episodes of its fourth and final season, SCI FI Channel announced.
The 10-week run will culminate with the series finale on March 20. (Spoilers ahead!)
The new episodes pick up from last June's cliffhanger, in which the Colonial fleet, led by Adm. Adama (Edward James Olmos) and the Galactica crew, and their new Cylon allies arrive on Earth only to find it a barren nuclear wasteland.
Season 4 part 2 commerical... FRAK YAY!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzZX9d18Ebg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzZX9d18Ebg)
WOW! Can't wait! More Galactica - more Katee!!
What was Roslyn yelling at the end of the clip???
Quote from: wraith1701 on November 25, 2008, 12:13:10 AM
What was Roslyn yelling at the end of the clip???
It sounded like "I'm coming for all of you"
Wow! Just watched the new episode and I really have to slap myself repeatedly for not noticing something so obvious from last season. I don't want to mention it now, but in the words of Buffy ... I've got a theory.
Whoa....My head is spinning.
My head is spinning as well.
I think my theory is going to make your head spin even faster. For those of you with DVRs watch the recap when they show the planet and then watch it carefully.
Do you mean the start - what they think is Earth? Or something in the preview for next week?
Does anyone think there will be a "happy" ending to the show ?
Quote from: Rico on January 16, 2009, 08:22:42 PM
Do you mean the start - what they think is Earth? Or something in the preview for next week?
Yes, what they think is earth ... notice the planet's rotation and the land mass on screen ...
Just say it!
It's not earth. Rotation and landmass doesn't match.
OK....just got done watching it and all I can say is WOW!!!
A fantastic beginning to the final episodes.
Unfortunately I saw exactly where the Dualla thing was going a mile away.
Man oh man there are a lot of questions to be answered in the next 9 weeks (?) I cannot wait.
Does anyone think there is some sort of time travel or time paradox going on? A lot of what they found seems to be seeing their future.
P.S. Could it be the Earth of the distant future? :cylon
That's all this show needs - alternate timelines, causality loops. Someone stop the bus - I want to get off !! ;D
"Everything that has happened before will happen again."
Really cool episode. Not sure what's going on - but I loved it!
Quote from: Rico on January 17, 2009, 05:32:38 AM
"Everything that has happened before will happen again."
Arrrrrrrrggghh !!!! :old_bash:
"Everything that has a beginning has an end" --- ha !! So there !! ;D
So do we believe Ellen is the final cylon?
Quote from: Bryancd on January 17, 2009, 06:55:08 AM
So do we believe Ellen is the final cylon?
The fifth Cylon of the five - yes. The final Cylon - not sure yet.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 17, 2009, 06:55:08 AM
So do we believe Ellen is the final cylon?
now that would be a twist. A daytime talk show host, the final cylon. :)
Wasn't the acting just superb in this episode? Man! I just sat there glued to the show the entire show. At first I was getting planet of the ape vibes, like perhaps the cylons made the humans.... hmmmm.
The Starbuck story has me really intrigued. Her finding her ship, with her dead body in it was creepy and then to see Leoben so freaked out really getting me interested. Somehow it reminded me of the Original Battlestar when they found the crashed ship on the planet, but never revealed what they saw. I am just not sure what to think about Starbuck now, is it some sort of time paradox, or has she evolved to something else after crashing onto the planet.
I felt bad about Dee, liked to character, but I guess that is what these shows do to keep us watching.
The Dee thing took me completely by surprise! I was like HOLY S@#T!
This seems to be appropriate....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVtjM_Igec (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVtjM_Igec)
Just watched BSG this morning.. WOW.. what a way to start my weekend..
The Dee things totally too me by surprise.. I'm a Dee fan so when I saw how much they were focusing on her character in this episode my first thought.. oh she's the fifth cylon and I kept thinking that until she blew her brains out and I was floored.
BSG has had a lot of depressing episodes but I think this one beats them all. Some of those scenes were so hard to watch, it felt so real and it's tough watching the human race give up.
I have no idea what to think about Starbuck and dead Starbuck.. is it a parallel universe, time travel, or something that RM will invent. I am looking forward to finding out.
And the fifth Cylon is... Ellen.. didn't see that one.
So my question is.. Who came first the Cylons or the Humans or is everyone a Cylon, just different models. Did the humans create the Cylons on Earth thousands of years ago and the humans and cylons got together to create hybrids and then the battle happened and the hybrids fled and created the 13 Colonies. So many questions and nine more episodes to get the answers... can't wait.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 17, 2009, 08:41:35 AM
The Dee thing took me completely by surprise! I was like HOLY S@#T!
When she took off the ring, I was like...oh no, please don't.
There were so many twists that I don't what to think. I don't know what's going to happened, but I be watching every second of it.
Sounds like I need to watch this pretty soon!
Anyone notice how Starbuck said "Oh my god" when she found her ship but later refers to "gods" (plural). THey always use it in plural from what I can recall without watching ever shoe again :)
I found myself having a rough time with several scenes because they evoked so much emotion. When Ros was burning her "scriptures" and going through her faith crisis... I was like.. wow. It was so stirring and sad all at the same time. Adama and his conversation with Ty was absolutely amazing, as well as the scene in the mourge. I am floored by the acting. So good. gritty and real.
Oh - here's a longer clip that I just put up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Gl0jWnHnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Gl0jWnHnI)
When Dee was in the Raptor and was trying to keep her self-control is when I first began to think she may kill herself....so sad.
I totally agree with Rick...so many unbelievable scenes which such great acting.
The STarbuck plot....I have no idea where to even begin trying to figure that out.
I didn't like the scene where Adama is walking to Tigh's quarters and the crew are all fighting and sitting around in the corridors, it seemed like too quick a collapse of discipline and I hate to say it, but when Adama was confronting Tigh, Edward James pushed the acting a wee bit too far and it took me out of it. First time he has done that in Four seasons for me, so not a big deal, but he was a little over the top.
Really great episode, and on so many levels. A real roller-coaster ride, with some high points (like the date between Lee and Dee), and many, MANY more low points. At times, I felt like I was watching a Shakesperean tragedy, and at others, like I was watching a train-wreck.
Horrible to see, but at the same time, too fascinating to ignore.
Regarding the Starbuck situation: I think things are just as they seem-- the dead body is the "real" Starbuck that we first meet in the Mini-Series. The current Starbuck is a copy with implanted memories. In fact, this ties in pretty neatly with a pet theory of mine.
Here it goes:
ALL of the "humans" are Cylons. Not actual metal robots, of course, but 'flesh-cylons', like Six and Boomer.
What if "The Plan" is just a series of repeated attempts to re-start the human race. With each try, the Machine Cylons decant a fresh batch of clones, or 'human-model cylons', all with ready-made memories and pre-programmed personalities. They set these cylon-created humans loose and see what happens. And they keep a small sample of the human-model cylons close at hand, with at least a partial awareness of their true nature, as a sort of control group.
And each time, the 'new humans' figure out a way to destroy themselves.. either directly (through nuclear holocaust, for example), or indirectly (like by creating yet another type of machine servant, only to have it turn on them).
I think it might have been mentioned by another member of the forum earlier, but it's worth repeating:
The 5th Cylon isn't just Ellen; it's Humanity.
...Or maybe not. ;)
... I like the sounds of that, Wraith.
That is a really cool theory Wraith.....definitely plausible given the information we have now.
Wraith you make a lot of sense with that.
Watched the episode last night. Absolutely fantastic! This series is going to go out with a bang. It can't all end here surely? It is just too good to finish!
Amazing episode, just caught it yesterday. I won't repeat what has already been said but I also agree with the whole "all humans are actually Cylons" theory.
Also, if indeed this is Earth (which is still questionable), does that mean WE are all really Cylons? :)
Quote from: billybob476 on January 19, 2009, 04:49:57 AM
Amazing episode, just caught it yesterday. I won't repeat what has already been said but I also agree with the whole "all humans are actually Cylons" theory.
Also, if indeed this is Earth (which is still questionable), does that mean WE are all really Cylons? :)
I don't think it would because the cylons there actually knew that they were cylons.
I'm not sure about the everyone is a Cylon thing. First, if that is true then Cylon models must be different. Because breeding, super-strength, etc. seem to be different with most of "humanity." Also, isn't the new series Caprica suppose to deal with the earlier days of the creation of some of the Cylons? Also, in the movie "Razor" which showed Adama in the past it seems that human looking Cylons were just being started. So, I guess I think unless all that has been misdirection I'm not believing everyone is a Cylon.
Well as one of my buddies said: If we are thinking of it, it's not far out enough for Galactica.
We can speculate all we want but if BSG stays true to form, they'll blow us away with something way out of left field.
Quote from: Rico on January 19, 2009, 06:00:36 AM
I'm not sure about the everyone is a Cylon thing. First, if that is true then Cylon models must be different. Because breeding, super-strength, etc. seem to be different with most of "humanity." Also, isn't the new series Caprica suppose to deal with the earlier days of the creation of some of the Cylons? Also, in the movie "Razor" which showed Adama in the past it seems that human looking Cylons were just being started. So, I guess I think unless all that has been misdirection I'm not believing everyone is a Cylon.
But Humanity could be all human/cylon hybrids. We don't know anything about them.
Still don't think so. Again, it just doesn't add up for me. They have made such a big deal about Helo & Sharon's kid all this time. Besides, again I think the answers are much more complex and perhaps even more mystical in nature - which has been a big part of the show from the start.
One new idea is maybe over time, everyone becomes a Cylon, or human-Cylon blend. Again, that seems to be what the show has been shooting for. With the Alliance and the Civil War within the various Cylon models. Anyway, time will tell.
Quote from: Rico on January 19, 2009, 06:00:36 AM
I'm not sure about the everyone is a Cylon thing. First, if that is true then Cylon models must be different. Because breeding, super-strength, etc. seem to be different with most of "humanity." Also, isn't the new series Caprica suppose to deal with the earlier days of the creation of some of the Cylons? Also, in the movie "Razor" which showed Adama in the past it seems that human looking Cylons were just being started. So, I guess I think unless all that has been misdirection I'm not believing everyone is a Cylon.
I see where you are coming from, and I admit that the idea is
very far-fetched. I'm mostly just speculating for fun. :) But, as far-fetched as the "everyone's a Cylon" theory is, I maintain that it
is possible:
Razor supposedly shows us some of Adama and Cain's memories. Caprica supposedly tells us about Adama's childhood. Adama has memories of his ex-wife, and of fighting in the first cylon war with Tigh. Whose to say that these memories are real? Before realizing that she was a Cylon, Sharon had "Memories" about her childhood and family, even though she really never had either. I'm sure Tigh, Anders, Chief, and Tori have memories of pasts that didn't exist as well.
As for the Super-Strength thing- None of the sleeper agents showed any sign of having enhanced abilities until they realized their true nature. Once that happened, we see Sharon showing lightening-quick reflexes, and Tori throwing Cally around like she weighed nothing. Perhaps the enhancements are triggered only after the agents embrace who they are.
In the end, I like what Billybob had to say-
QuoteIf we are thinking of it, it's not far out enough for Galactica.
I'm hoping that the final reveal will be so far out there, it will blow all of our minds. But even if it doesn't, the quality of the writing and acting should ensure that the ride to the finish will be a fun one.
I think the Cylon's are actually a metaphor for the de-humanization of mankind in a world without faith in anything and an utter worship of technology and.... ok, never mind.... ;)
Meanwhile, hey that Jamie dude is quite the stud! Here's a stud pic for your hunk collection Rico....and for the enjoyment of some forum members.... :biggrin
Quote from: Just X on January 16, 2009, 08:55:01 PM
It's not earth. Rotation and landmass doesn't match.
It is Earth. Apparently R.D. Moore said so in an interview.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 20, 2009, 04:00:41 PM
Quote from: Just X on January 16, 2009, 08:55:01 PM
It's not earth. Rotation and landmass doesn't match.
It is Earth. Apparently R.D. Moore said so in an interview.
I assume you mean this interview: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html (http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html)
he says this:
QuoteThat planet is Earth? We're not going to find out, "Oh, there's this other Earth over here..." This is the only Earth we'll see?
They have found Earth. This is the Earth that the 13th Colony discovered, they christened it Earth. They found Earth.
So the planet that the 13th tribe landed on and named Earth. At no time did he say that it is this Earth. Remember, at the end of season 3 he said Starbuck was dead. We thought he lied but as it turns out he wasn't.
Ron Moore appears to be very deliberate in what he says and how he says it.
I do. But the concept of an alternate Earth would be too sci-fi for RDM. It is Earth, now we need to figure out what it means.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 20, 2009, 05:05:05 PM
I do. But the concept of an alternate Earth would be too sci-fi for RDM. It is Earth, now we need to figure out what it means.
What I think is that after Galactica made it to earth, they influenced the culture and those names of legend were passed down as people migrated from earth to found a new 13 colonies. The Cylons named their colony Earth and the others did their thing.
Then 2,000 years ago Lucifer and his cylons caught up with the new colonies and did their extermination thing...
It has happened before. It will happen again.
BSG is not just a reimagining of the old BSG but a future based sequel. Name of old legends became Call signs, or last names.
Or I might be off, but I like my idea.
Well it looks to be official.
Ron Moore Discusses BSG Revelations
January 20, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV
Warning: This article will contain SPOILERS for the latest episode of "Battlestar Galactica." If you don't want to know any of the details or haven't watched the episode yet, please stop reading now...
"Battlestar Galactica" returned with a roar Friday night, featuring at least one jaw-dropping revelation per episode segment.
But the biggest revelation was saved for the episodes waning moment with the long-awaited reveal of the identity of the fifth Cylon.
The final Cylon turned out to be none other than Saul Tigh's deceased wife, Ellen.
That revelation, as well as a variety of other moments, sparked a firestorm of conversation and controversy among fans. Series producer Ronald Moore spoke to the Chicago Tribune's television critic and media blogger Maureen Ryan about the decision and what it could mean for the rest of the "Galactica" run.
"There's a certain logic to it," Moore said. "I sort of figured out early on that I liked the pairing of her and Tigh. [I liked] that there was something deeper to their marriage and deeper to their relationship, that it was literally a relationship that had transcended time and space, that it was very ancient that had gone on for a very long."
There was something really appealing about the idea that of the final five, the two of them were a pair, and they were THIS pair — you know, as drama-ridden as their relationship had been, the idea that there had always been something deeper and more profound at its center, I always really, really liked," he continued.
Moore also said that he and the writers had singled out Ellen as the final Cylon as far back as the third season of the show.
"Over the course of the third season, Ellen came and went in my thinking in terms of who the final five were," he said. "It probably wasn't until we settled on the final four that I knew it was Ellen. When we got to the final four — Tigh, Anders, Tory and Tyrol — then it felt like, "and Ellen has to be the fifth." Because Tigh being revealed as a Cylon was such a profound shift in that character, such a big leap for the show, that it felt really natural that she was also a Cylon."
Moore went on to say that while the revelation wasn't the usual shock administered by "Galactica." Many times, the twists and turns come up quickly, but he said this one was more woven into the overall tapestry of the show and designed to be a game-changing moment when a lot of elements click into place.
"It really did just fit into the larger story. And that's sort of how the show has always been, it's been about taking leaps and seeing how things fit in together. That just felt really natural. It just felt like it would line up correctly. It felt like all the pieces would make sense and that it would be a satisfying thing," he said.
And Moore promises that this won't be the last time we see Ellen this year....
In the Los Angeles Times, actress Kate Vernon, who playes Ellen, revealed she will be in seven of the final nine episodes of the series. She also said she's known her role for two years and has had a difficult time keepng the secret.
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/01/20/ron-moore-discusses-bsg-revelations/ (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/01/20/ron-moore-discusses-bsg-revelations/)
OK, RDM's podcast is out where he reviews this episode. First, Earth is Earth (or earth, maybe not ours, but it is called Earth. He also gives insight into the mythology of BSG. That humans and the gods all lived together in paradise on Kobol. Then man stole fire from the gods in the form of the ability to create life, the cylons. Then they destroyed paradise (Kobol) and 12 colonies went one way and the 13th tribe, the cylons, went to Earth, where they in turn created life and destroyed themselves. And I am only 20min into listening to this!
I like how the Galactica Watercooler guys refer to it as "Earf" since we're not sure whether or not it is our planet Earth. :)
Well, since YouTube didn't seem to like me putting up that Robot Chicken and Ron Moore tiny one minute clip, I have it on my site now. Still cracks me up!
http://www.treksinscifi.com/video/RonMoorerobotc1.flv (http://www.treksinscifi.com/video/RonMoorerobotc1.flv)
Solid episode tonight. Not sure where they ar going with Baltar though. Adama, I think, is dying and is the leader foreseen in the prophecy, not Laura.
I'm trying hard not to majorly spoil the episode for those who haven't seen the latest episode yet. But I will sum up my feelings of tonight's BSG episode with this: fraking amazing. Definitely an improvement in tone over last week's episode, in my opinion. :)
Did anyone else want to punch Gaeta when he was talking to Kara? I can see where his anger is coming from, but his comments were just wrong.
I can definitely see where Gaeta's coming from. He and Dee were kind of buddies s on top of everything else he's taking that pretty hard I'd say.
It was kind of one of those transition episodes to me. Building up and setting some things in motion. I'm glad at least some of the people are holding it together. Looks like Ellen is definitely # 5 and Tigh told Adama. The scene with Starbuck & Gaeta was painful. Can't wait for next week.
I agree with Bryan, I think Adama is the dieing leader. The twist with Callie and Cheifs baby was interesting. I kind of like the attitude that Gaeta is carrying, should make for an interesting next few episodes. I was happy he called Stabuck out, she has done that to others in the past, so nice to see it turned around. I felt she had it all coming, so was not painful to watch in the least for me. It is not that I don't like her character, but considering she nearly airlocked Gaeta, and was one of the ones responsible for him losing his leg, his words seemed justified from his point of view.
I could see where this was a Ron Moore directed episode, considering there was not a lot of action it it. I am hoping some of the upcoming episodes will have a bit more action and space scenes.
I think the switcheroo with Callie's baby felt a bit forced. Now that Tigh and 6 are preggers, it seems another hybrid baby doesn't need to be around anymore so they gave her a human father instead of the Chief. Also, although I am happy Ros and Adama have hooked up, that too felt a bit rushed. It was so nicely nuanced back in Season 3 with the falshbacks to New Caprica and the two of them getting stoned. :)
The baby for Tigh and the Six is a full Cylon baby - not a hybrid. The only hybrid currently is Helo & Sharon's kid - since Chief isn't the father of Callie's baby. Oh and Adama and Roslin have hooked up a number of times and been close for awhile now. You must have missed some things Bryan.
Quote from: Rico on January 24, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
The baby for Tigh and the Six is a full Cylon baby - not a hybrid. The only hybrid currently is Helo & Sharon's kid - since Chief isn't the father of Callie's baby. Oh and Adama and Roslin have hooked up a number of times and been close for awhile now. You must have missed some things Bryan.
...ok, I said the Chief and Callie's baby WAS a hybrid until this episode as the Chief IS a Cylon and Callie IS NOT. That's because now that Tigh and 6 are preggers, they have the FIRST FULL Cylon baby., so we don't need another Hybrid beyond Helo and Sharons. Adama and Ros have hooked up in a very minor sense, I would suggest this was a bit more, no? You must have missed that. :)
...is this thing on? (tap, tap, tap)
I guess I didn't follow what you meant about the baby because you started talking about one baby and moved to the other. And no - I didn't miss anything. To be direct, this wasn't at all the first time on last night's show that Adama & Roslin have gone to bed together. There have been several times this has happened. They also have admitted they loved each other, so last night made perfect sense to me.
When have Ros and Adama actually been seen together in bed?
At least twice on Galactica and at least once on New Caprica - and those are only the times they have shown on air. They were on New Caprica quite awhile.
Well wiat, on New Caprica they are shown laying out in a field looking at the stars after they got high, but there was no implied sex's there. When on Galactica?
Bryan - come on. I won an award in the RPG stuff about this stuff today! LOL! Here - watch the very end of this video and I'll find more clips if I can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBPTopqGZs0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBPTopqGZs0)
AHHH! No! That last little bit was added in, he left in that scene, he never slept with ROS before last night! and New Caprica?! Now way!
She was still there the next day. This isn't an R rated movie. You don't even really know what they did last night. I choose to read things a certain way, I guess. And I'll leave it at that.
That's cool and implications were likely intended. My point is that this was the frist time it was so clear, which I think gives it more gravitas. I think RDM was saving this reveal for the last few episodes. For me, it made the scene more compelling, thinking that the two of them have danced around their love but never consumated it until now, at the end.
As for the reveal about chief's kid, I knew that it was coming. They never had any awe for the kid even after the chief came out. I was less than shocked that it wasn't his.
While I knew that Adama and Rosaline were getting busy for some time, last night was kinda creepy like walking in on your parents or something.
Quote from: Just X on January 24, 2009, 04:50:33 PM
As for the reveal about chief's kid, I knew that it was coming. They never had any awe for the kid even after the chief came out. I was less than shocked that it wasn't his.
While I knew that Adama and Rosaline were getting busy for some time, last night was kinda creepy like walking in on your parents or something.
Right, but again, it was implied very subtly. To see it for real was very well done, I just wish they had another more intimate encounter first.
I think it will be interesting to see what Happens to the Chief, he has really lost everything now. First he lost his people when it was discovered he was a cylon, then he lost his wife and now he has lost his son. He should be the guy putting the gun to his head. I do agree with you Justx that there never seemed to be much talk about the Baby compared to Helo's and Sharons so this probably should have been expected. It might have felt like a bit forced as well, like Bryan mentioned, but I guess for the Chief character, it just adds another loss on top of all the others he and the rest are experiencing.
One interesting thing is they seem to be pairing Cylons up more and more. Remember Chief was first involved with one of the Sharons - both Cylons. Now he seems interested in Torri (a Cylon). We have the Anders and Starbuck thing going - Anders a Cylon and Starbuck - well something else maybe. As well, we now find out that Tigh & Ellen are both Cylons. And Tigh is now with one of the Sixes. Not sure what it all means but it seems interesting to me.
I finally got around to watching the latest episode. It was really good. There are so many things going on right now. It seems like this show is on the verge of exploding. I can't wait until next week.
Well, in this weeks podcast, RDM basically said the same things I was alluding to. They didn't want to have two hybrid babies running around so they decided to give Callie's kid to Hot Dog. LOL! Also, RDM said that it was his feeling that Adama and Ros and never slept together until this scene, although the members of the cast and audience, may have inferred that they already had.
What's frakking funny is they never showed Tigh and Six really do anything and now she's pregnant with his kid!
Quote from: Rico on January 26, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
What's frakking funny is they never showed Tigh and Six really do anything and now she's pregnant with his kid!
I know! I wouldn't be surprised if there was maybe a scene filmed where he almost rapes her but they found it too harsh.
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Quote from: Rico on January 26, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
What's frakking funny is they never showed Tigh and Six really do anything and now she's pregnant with his kid!
I know! I wouldn't be surprised if there was maybe a scene filmed where he almost rapes her but they found it too harsh.
I hope not. That doesn't seem to be in character with the way I see Tigh. He's messed up, but not THAT messed up!
It is more likely that he was erm.. 'encouraged' by six! ;)
OK, last nights episode was rockin'! Great to see Starbuck back kicking a@! :boxing
Just finished last nights BSG.. trying to catch my breath... WOW
Next week it looks like this will all come to a head. This week rocked. I was on the edge of my seat!
Last night's episode was awesome! Matter of fact, I'm watching it again. :metallica:
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on January 31, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
Just finished last nights BSG.. trying to catch my breath... WOW
agreed. Wow is right. Some very emotional moments.
I had murderous rage last night and wanted several people to die painfully and slowly. It's not often that I get that reaction from a show. Some books, yes. Almost never for a show.
Loved it! And I'm with you - I wanted to kick Gaeta's little fake leg out from under him! After everything the Admiral has gotten them through - what a way to repay him. I'm having just a tiny bit of trouble with him gathering the forces he has so quickly and easily. It's one thing to not like joining forces with the Cylons, but it's another to betray a leader who has brought them this far. Excellent episode though - I was on the edge of my seat! And some great Katee stuff too!
Quote from: Rico on January 31, 2009, 01:54:56 PM
Loved it! And I'm with you - I wanted to kick Gaeta's little fake leg out from under him! After everything the Admiral has gotten them through - what a way to repay him. I'm having just a tiny bit of trouble with him gathering the forces he has so quickly and easily. It's one thing to not like joining forces with the Cylons, but it's another to betray a leader who has brought them this far. Excellent episode though - I was on the edge of my seat! And some great Katee stuff too!
from what I can tell, he got a bunch of the people that were with him when he tried to mutiny on Starbuck and some of the Pegasus crew. Then factor in Tigh and you have more than enough people that might think the Admiral lost his marbles. I really just want to see him dead. I know it's a mean thing to say, but he doesn't deserve any pity. He lost his leg because he was a traitor and if Starbuck had killed him then, it would be one less problem.
Just seemed like a lot of people, marines, etc. very, very fast. But of course it's a TV series and with BSG right now they don't have 6 episodes to let him build up a group of mutineers. I just hope they settle this pretty quickly and get on with actually working on finding a real home again.
What was so crazy was watching the human nature factor. It was a little close to home for me and that is what makes it great television. I have been involved in groups of people where it turns really quickly, and then confusion ensues. In this case it is unsettling to see where the lines are drawn and who honors who. Yikes!
I was upstairs when the episode started. The scene when Saul goes to see Adama - I could hear his voice crack and thinking "she's in her bathrobe" -- sure enough. I thought everyone knew about those 2. They are becoming the bright spot in the show -- listen to me, what a softy I've become in my old age. ;D
Fun episode - a bit surprised at Apollo getting anoyed at Tighe and where would we be without Katee. :D
Quote from: Rico on January 31, 2009, 02:07:38 PM
Just seemed like a lot of people, marines, etc. very, very fast. But of course it's a TV series and with BSG right now they don't have 6 episodes to let him build up a group of mutineers. I just hope they settle this pretty quickly and get on with actually working on finding a real home again.
My exact thought as well while watching. I was like, what the frak, over the course of a few days Gaeta has a frakin' army capable of taking over a Battlestar! Definitely a cheat by RDM but that's ok.
Awesome episode; had me on the edge of my seat! Loved Starbuck's initial reaction to the situation-- "I haven't felt this right in weeks!" LOL. Hardcore adrenaline junky!
QuoteThey are becoming the bright spot in the show -- listen to me, what a softy I've become in my old age.
You aren't the only one. The Adama/Roslyn good-bye scene at the airlock got me kind of choked-up. It's good to see a few rays of sunshine amid all of the darkness and chaos the crew is going through.
And Geata... Where's a good airlock when you need one?
Nothing for nothing, but Gaeta does have a point.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 31, 2009, 08:53:09 PM
Nothing for nothing, but Gaeta does have a point.
I hate to say it.. but I agree with you Bryan.. I hate Gaeta, but if you think about it from his side and from the remaining survivors, the Cylons have almost wiped out the human race... now they are just suppose to team up with them. I'm not saying it's right.. but I do understand where they are coming from.
I think Gaeta and his followers would have a point if the Cylons were all cut from the same cloth, but they aren't. As far as we know (so far), folks like Anders, Tigh, Chief Tyrol, and even Sharon/Athena played no part in the atrocities committed against the colonies.
And Geata isn't alone. Zarak is starting to seem less and less like a misunderstood revolutionary, and more like a hate-monger seeking power for power's sake.
I agree totally with you Rico. I am having trouble understanding how long between each episode was. Was it a month in real time in which he would have time to organize?
Other than that I liked it.
Did anyone else notice the great amount of "slurrping" that was going on with the admiral/president kiss? Made me think of my grandparents kissing :)
Found a few interesting bits of info about tonight's episode... Looking forward to seeing if they prove to be accurate.
SPOILERS!!!====> http://patriotresource.com/bg/insights/spoilers/season4/414.html (http://patriotresource.com/bg/insights/spoilers/season4/414.html)
Helluva episode. I have a question about a scene towards the end-
After the Chief does his thing with the FTL drive, the camera follows him as he stops and stares at what appears to be some damage to the bulkhead-
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t91/wraith1702/vlcsnap-6202153.png)
Anyone have any ideas on the significance of this?
Galatica is old, was suppose to be retired, I think Galatica is a goner.
What an episode this was! Gets better every week.
Awesome episode last night. I'm glad they didn't drag out this mutiny thing much longer. It was great to see Romo Lampkin again. Very cool. Loved how he grabbed his shades back from the guy he took out. Great stuff!
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on February 07, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
Galactic is old, was suppose to be retired, I think Galactic is a goner.
Yep, I think the old girl is a goner! Great episode, I knew Tom was toast when he capped the Quorum of 12!
Last night's episode was awesome! Now I know why Tom Zareck was jailed in the first place. He was a dark and ruthless person. Adama should have put him in an airlock a long time age. Gaeta finally got his. The scene of the FTL drive was pretty cool. It was cool to see Adama retook the Galactcia. I wonder how many of the mutineers were from the Pegasus?
Quote from: M-5 on February 07, 2009, 04:22:22 PM
...I wonder how many of the mutineers were from the Pegasus?
A good chunk of them, I bet. Cain's legacy lives on. Still, it was good to see how many folks rallied to Adama's side once they figured out what was going on. And Geata's last scene... I still can't abide what he did, but in those last few scenes, the actor playing him did an outstanding job breathing life into the character. Geata seemed most human and most sympathetic to me right as he was leaving the show.
I just got done watching. WOW. It was really incredible. What great actors. I too am glad that they didn't keep the mutiny plot line going. It was time to get done with it. One of the reasons this show is so impacting is that it is so close to real life. I totally related to a lot of the stuff in this one, and it moved me emotionally. CRAZY!
:)
I gotta' watch it again.
Oh My WOW!!! Where to even begin. SO much happening and coming down to the final 6 eps or so.....This is great and horrible all at the same time. And next week....Whoa!!!!
Yes the quality of the acting has always been good but they have taken it up a notch here. Alessandro Juliani has done a brilliant job as Gaeta in these last few episodes. I can just feel a really explosive conclusion to the series is coming and I can't wait to see it!
Ummmmmm. Well......I don't know. Tonight's episode was almost too full of Cylon info. and I am now a little confused. I need to watch it again. I have to say, when the "PC Guy" showed up as the doctor, I was totally taken out of the show. Poor casting choice. Not a great episode and I am suddenly....concerned. So Starbuck is somehow related to the Daniel number 7, I get that and Caville is the new arch enemy created by Ellen and the final 5, but the back history is still confusing.
I have to respectfully disagree with you Bryan. For me, it was one of the best episodes of the season. All will be revealed has never been more accurate than tonight. The only part I didn't like is that the show was over after an hour.
OK, well I watched it again and now can follow the Cylon arch, and I do like Ellen a lot, but I don't think this was a very strong episode. All will be revealed is still falling a bit short, IMO. I'm worried the Payoff might be too pedestrian and I love this show. I think they will pull off a solid conclusion, however.
I liked tonight's episode a lot. The stand out line for me, the story of my life..
"my only concern about you is that you're so hell bent on doing the right thing that you sometimes don't do the smart thing."
wow, brilliant and thought provoking.
Poor Galactica. What irony.... Cylon technology to keep the Galactica afloat. hmmm.
I loved this latest episode. Very well acted and it's really bringing everything together. I like the Ellen character a lot and it all makes sense. It was a lot of information tossed at us for one episode is maybe my only little nitpick about it - but they are running out of time.
Oh my vote for who Daniel is ---> Baltar.
Quote from: Rico on February 14, 2009, 08:15:58 AM
I loved this latest episode. Very well acted and it's really bringing everything together. I like the Ellen character a lot and it all makes sense. It was a lot of information tossed at us for one episode is maybe my only little nitpick about it - but they are running out of time.
Oh my vote for who Daniel is ---> Baltar.
..or Daniel is actually Danielle and it's Starbuck! I think Daniel is Kara's father and if Baltar is a version of Daniel... :blink
Quote from: Bryancd on February 14, 2009, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: Rico on February 14, 2009, 08:15:58 AM
I loved this latest episode. Very well acted and it's really bringing everything together. I like the Ellen character a lot and it all makes sense. It was a lot of information tossed at us for one episode is maybe my only little nitpick about it - but they are running out of time.
Oh my vote for who Daniel is ---> Baltar.
..or Daniel is actually Danielle and it's Starbuck! I think Daniel is Kara's father and if Baltar is a version of Daniel... :blink
I think that Starbuck isn't one of the 13 models, but one of the survivors of Earth. There were a lot of cylons on earth and we know that five survived due to resurrection, but we don't know if any others survived. I think that Kara might be one of those cylons.
Just finished last nights episode.. LOVED IT!!!!!
Wow, so much information in that very short 45 minute episode.
It's nice to stick with a show for years and actually get some really cool payoff information. Can't wait to see where it goes next week.
Quote from: Bryancd on February 14, 2009, 09:19:44 AM
.. I think Daniel is Kara's father
I've seen and heard information out there that strongly supports this.
A pretty old spoiler from io9-
[spoiler] In the series Caprica, a noted character is the scientist Daniel Graystone, who somehow manages to create an artificial copy of his daughter Zoe...
"...Daniel Graystone is a computer genius, married to the unfaithful Amanda, a gifted surgeon. Their daughter, Zoe, dies in a suicide bombing by religious fanatics, including Zoe's boyfriend. Also killed in that bombing: Joseph Adama's wife and daughter.
Before Zoe dies, she installs the "rudimentary elements" of her personality and DNA into a computer, creating a digital twin called Zoe-A. After Zoe dies, her father uses that materials, along with some stolen technology to create a robot version called Zoe-R. This is the 'Cylonic Eve.'" [/spoiler]
Coincidence?
Also, [spoiler] upcoming episodes of BSG introduce a character named "Slick", who has a strange connection to Kara. Possibly her father?
Upcoming episode, "someone to watch over me"--
"Directed by Michael Nankin, the episode was written by David Weddle and Bradley Thompson. More details on the character Slick, as reported by Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello are: "Late 20's-Late 30's. This handsome, charismatic, slick and mysterious piano player is someone Kara is inexplicably drawn to. She finds herself telling him things no one knows about her. "
Is "Slick" Daniel? [/spoiler]
OK; I just re-watched last night's episode with commentary by RDM at the sci-fi site. I'm fairly certain that the seventh cylon Daniel is [spoiler] Daniel Graystone from Caprica. In his podcast for last night's episode, RDM says that Daniel has ties to the Caprica series. [/spoiler]
One thing that RDM didn't address is bugging me though. I think Cavil mentions that his design was based on Ellen's father. Ellen mentions that she named Cavil after her father. But how can she have a father if she is a cylon herself? Thoughts?
Nice theory Wraith, but ...
[spoiler]Daniel greystone lived before the cylon war and the five didn't arrive until the end of the war. I don't see how they could build him before they arrived. Remember that the five only arrived 40 or so years ago according to Ellen.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Just X on February 14, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Nice theory Wraith, but ...
[spoiler]Daniel greystone lived before the cylon war and the five didn't arrive until the end of the war. I don't see how they could build him before they arrived. Remember that the five only arrived 40 or so years ago according to Ellen.[/spoiler]
Good point. Still trying to reconcile this with what RDM said on his commentary about... [spoiler] Daniel (the 7th) being an important part of the Caprica storyline. Which actually contradicts what he said earlier about none of the BSG characters playing a key role in the Caprica series. [/spoiler]
On an unrelated note; any theories on how Ellen has a father, and how she modeled Cavil after him? This one has me stumped...
Quote from: wraith1701 on February 14, 2009, 05:47:10 PM
Quote from: Just X on February 14, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Nice theory Wraith, but ...
[spoiler]Daniel greystone lived before the cylon war and the five didn't arrive until the end of the war. I don't see how they could build him before they arrived. Remember that the five only arrived 40 or so years ago according to Ellen.[/spoiler]
Good point. Still trying to reconcile this with what RDM said on his commentary about... [spoiler] Daniel (the 7th) being an important part of the Caprica storyline. Which actually contradicts what he said earlier about none of the BSG characters playing a key role in the Caprica series. [/spoiler]
On an unrelated note; any theories on how Ellen has a father, and how she modeled Cavil after him? This one has me stumped...
That's easy. [spoiler]It was explained in the episode. The 13th colony of Cylons could reproduce and didn't need resurrection. When things started getting bad, the five rediscovered resurrection and survived the attack. So all of the five were born and grew old just like the humans that they were modeled after.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Just X on February 14, 2009, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: wraith1701 on February 14, 2009, 05:47:10 PM
Quote from: Just X on February 14, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
Nice theory Wraith, but ...
[spoiler]Daniel greystone lived before the cylon war and the five didn't arrive until the end of the war. I don't see how they could build him before they arrived. Remember that the five only arrived 40 or so years ago according to Ellen.[/spoiler]
Good point. Still trying to reconcile this with what RDM said on his commentary about... [spoiler] Daniel (the 7th) being an important part of the Caprica storyline. Which actually contradicts what he said earlier about none of the BSG characters playing a key role in the Caprica series. [/spoiler]
On an unrelated note; any theories on how Ellen has a father, and how she modeled Cavil after him? This one has me stumped...
That's easy. [spoiler]It was explained in the episode. The 13th colony of Cylons could reproduce and didn't need resurrection. When things started getting bad, the five rediscovered resurrection and survived the attack. So all of the five were born and grew old just like the humans that they were modeled after.[/spoiler]
Thanks man. :)
This episode was so dense, I must have missed that part.
And unfortunately, having John Hodgman as the brain surgeon took me out of the show a bit. I kept going "It's the PC!!!"
I loved his performance, but I couldn't see past the fact it was John Hodgman and enjoy the character. He plays a good uber geek who is only interested in his work at the expense of bedside manner. Also good to see Doc Cottle again and I laughed when he lit up a smoke standing in the door of the operating room where the BRAIN SURGERY was just finishing up.
I think the smoking Doc is Ron Moore's alter ego!
Final "BSG" Schedule Announced
February 17, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV
The end is near for "Battlestar Galactica." And while we can't tell you anything about how the series will end dramatically, we can tell you schedule-wise who the final chapters of the series will unfold.
According to SyFy Portal, the series will continue to air in its Friday at 10 p.m. EST time slot for the next several weeks, culminating on Friday, March 14. That evening, the first of the three-part series finale will air.
Then, on Friday, March 20th, the final episodes will air on SciFi. The evening will kick-off at 8 p.m. EST with a repeat of part one of the finale, followed by the final two episodes of the series. So, if fans want to watch the entire finale as one three-hour epic, they can do that.
SciFi is expecting larger than average viewing audiences for the finale of the series.
No word yet on how this schedule might conflict with Fox's Friday night sci-fi line-up (specifically if fans will be forced to choose between a new episode of "Dollhouse" and the finale of "BSG.")
Man that's less then a month away! The end is nigh!
Wow March 20th.....bummer...It has been a GREAT ride though and I cannot wait until I see how it all ends.
Just watched last friday's BSG.. it was good, as you know I'm not a fan of Baltar and wasn't thrilled with his stuff. But... [spoiler]When Caprica and Tigh lost these son it was heart wrenching. And Ellen.. still the same old Ellen, petty and jealous. I did like the interaction with Tigh and Adama.. best friends till the end.. very nice.[/spoiler] I look forward to next weeks episode.. finally some Starbuck info.. at least it looked that way from the previews.
Yeah, this episode was good. I agree it does seem like Baltar has been somewhat minimized as of late but I have a feeling he will be a key to the end. I also preferred him when he was the scientist/politician you loved to hate. The messiah thing leaves me a bit cold. I was a bit put off by Ellen reverting to the old Ellen, I liked her better last week. This episode had some weird editing going on as well.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on February 22, 2009, 11:23:09 AM.. I look forward to next weeks episode.. finally some Starbuck info.. at least it looked that way from the previews.
Yep; it looks like Kara is going to get some quality screen-time. :)
Quote from: wraith1701 on February 14, 2009, 12:51:15 PM[spoiler] upcoming episodes of BSG introduce a character named "Slick", who has a strange connection to Kara. Possibly her father?
Upcoming episode, "someone to watch over me"--
"Directed by Michael Nankin, the episode was written by David Weddle and Bradley Thompson. More details on the character Slick, as reported by Entertainment Weekly's Michael Ausiello are: "Late 20's-Late 30's. This handsome, charismatic, slick and mysterious piano player is someone Kara is inexplicably drawn to. She finds herself telling him things no one knows about her. "
Is "Slick" Daniel? [/spoiler]
Very interesting episode last night. Still a lot to learn about Kara. And Boomer - man is she nasty! Three more shows to go!
Did anyone else figure out who slick was by the second time he was on the screen?
Quote from: Just X on February 28, 2009, 08:45:15 AM
Did anyone else figure out who slick was by the second time he was on the screen?
Who? The piano player guy??
[spoiler]I kind of thought he was just in Kara's head.[/spoiler]
There's a Boomer. There's another Boomer. Oh and look, a Boomer beating up a Boomer. My heads still spinning.
Yeah, I told Amy after the first scene with the guy...
[spoiler]that's Starbuck's Father![/spoiler]
..and I also clued in early that he wasn't even there.
Is anyone else starting to get a bit concerned about the end of the series? I am just not sure how "we will know the truth" in just 3 more episodes. Last night's episode was(to me anyway) one of the weakest I have seen. I dunno, it was still better than most everything else on TV but the latest episode just left me flat. The last two eps haven't seemed to really advance the plot much. Maybe I am just tired who knows.
Yeah it was a strange one.
I'm getting the impression we will keep getting trickles of info and then BANG! awesome finale...
I think Kara will be central to the whole thing too.
BTW did anyone notice what they did to the tattoo on her back? Usually it is covered up but this time they have doctored it for the cameras. Katee's actual tattoo is a Christian cross which would be out of place on the show.
Quote from: Darth Gaos on February 28, 2009, 06:58:14 PM
Is anyone else starting to get a bit concerned about the end of the series? I am just not sure how "we will know the truth" in just 3 more episodes. Last night's episode was(to me anyway) one of the weakest I have seen. I dunno, it was still better than most everything else on TV but the latest episode just left me flat. The last two eps haven't seemed to really advance the plot much. Maybe I am just tired who knows.
I actually felt like it was a pretty strong episode.
The ante is bing upped big-time, and we finally are seeing some payoff on the whole "Hera Is Special" storyline. It also feels like the show is coming full circle with Boomer & Chief-- the relationship between the two reminds me of what went down in season one, and just how much she has Tyrol wrapped around her finger. I'm buying that she has real feelings for him, but that The Plan trumps emotion as far as she is concerned.
So; we are on the verge of finding out what the deal with Starbuck is (a BIG REVEAL), what the significance of Hera is (another Big Reveal). We seem to be about to find out if the Dying Leader prophecy applies to Roslin, and what the Hybrid's statement about Kara being the harbinger of death is all about. Plus, the Galactica, the only real home the colonists have had since the holocaust, seems to be on her last legs.
All in all, I feel like the show is ramping up to something major. I'm psyched!
I liked the latest episode, but I do think we are definitely heading to some major stuff going on. The theme seems to be that humans and cylons have to work together to survive. I'm pretty sure they will find a new home, probably about when Galactica completely falls apart. Still want to know more about Starbuck and what Cabal and the "bad" cyclons are up to. Three shows to finish it all up!
About the latest episode-
When I first watched it, It seemed to me that despite her actions, Boomer really did mean what she said to the Chief before she left; that she really did love him in her own special, twisted little way. But after watching it again, the whole episode seems completely different. On my last viewing, I couldn't get over the impression that everything Boomer said and showed to the Chief was an act.
I'm just wondering what others out there think: Does Boomer have any genuine feelings for the Chief, or is she simply a master of manipulation?
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 02, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
About the latest episode-
When I first watched it, It seemed to me that despite her actions, Boomer really did mean what she said to the Chief before she left; that she really did love him in her own special, twisted little way. But after watching it again, the whole episode seems completely different. On my last viewing, I couldn't get over the impression that everything Boomer said and showed to the Chief was an act.
I'm just wondering what others out there think: Does Boomer have any genuine feelings for the Chief, or is she simply a master of manipulation?
I think it was a manipulation. She had a goal and accomplished it betting on Chief being chief.
Quote from: Just X on March 02, 2009, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 02, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
About the latest episode-
When I first watched it, It seemed to me that despite her actions, Boomer really did mean what she said to the Chief before she left; that she really did love him in her own special, twisted little way. But after watching it again, the whole episode seems completely different. On my last viewing, I couldn't get over the impression that everything Boomer said and showed to the Chief was an act.
I'm just wondering what others out there think: Does Boomer have any genuine feelings for the Chief, or is she simply a master of manipulation?
I think it was a manipulation. She had a goal and accomplished it betting on Chief being chief.
I think you're right. So it looks like the "rescue" of Ellen and the "escape" from the Basestar were all part of an elaborate plan masterminded by Cavil. That guy is devious.
I totally think she was manipulating him. And honestly I can't tell anymore whether or not she really does have any true feelings for him.
Also I want to expound on my previous post. I have littlle doubt that we will find out everything we need to find out, I just don't want the end of an awesome series to seem rushed. The last two episodes weren't bad, they just didn't seem to advance much. Yes, we found out some things but nothing like the few episodes prior. Like I said, I just don't want to see 4 hours worth of show crammed into 2 hours.
Quote from: Darth Gaos on March 02, 2009, 06:57:17 PM... I just don't want to see 4 hours worth of show crammed into 2 hours.
I'm with you on that one. Heck; part of me would like to see the show go on for another season or two. But I guess it's better to end the series once it tells the story it has to tell, rather than let it linger and turn bad. And like you, I hope the writers can avoid making the ending seemed rushed or forced.
So if Daniel is a Cylon and if he is Kara's Dad, that would make Starbuck the original Cylon/Human hybrid, like Hera who has now been kidnapped. Also, does anyone think the musical notes of "All Around the Watchtower" will actually be a map to their final destination.
Quote from: Bryancd on March 03, 2009, 08:15:04 AM
So if Daniel is a Cylon and if he is Kara's Dad, that would make Starbuck the original Cylon/Human hybrid, like Hera who has now been kidnapped.
Sounds right to me. I wonder if Slick/Daniel still exists, or if he only exists as a "head character". If he's still kicking around in the physical world, I'm curious to see how they will bring him into the show.
QuoteAlso, does anyone think the musical notes of "All Around the Watchtower" will actually be a map to their final destination.
Sounds cool. The notes that Hera drew kind of looked like a child's interpretation of a solar system.
Just finished the latest episode.. really good.. building up tension for the final few episodes.
As for Boomer, she's vicious but I do think she truly loves the Chief. I mean when shes on the raptor with him she says come with me and he says no, she then says something like, whatever happens just know I always loved it. She knew that he would find out what she did. If she didn't truly love him then there would be no reason for that comment... at least that's how I look at it.
Except for the whole betraying the Chief's trust thing and lying to him. Boomer is just nasty evil and out for herself. Doesn't seem like love to me.
Quote from: Rico on March 03, 2009, 12:30:12 PM
Except for the whole betraying the Chief's trust thing and lying to him. Boomer is just nasty evil and out for herself. Doesn't seem like love to me.
But before she was like that, before she knew she was a Cylon, she loved Chief and I think deep down she still does.
It's my personal opinion that she doesn't know what love is. I think she used him and played on his love. I think that she only added the last part because she knew he would stay. She also probably wanted to keep her bridges from being burned.if I were evil and boomer, I would tell chief that I only did it to be allowed back on the basestar after taking Ellen and freeing her. I didn't want to do it. but I needed a way to be allowed home.
I agree with X, the whole thing was a set up by Cavil and Boomer is just doing this for him.
Yeah; I think it's pretty obvious that the escape in the Raptor was Cavil's plan.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Boomer doesn't know what love is though; I just think that her perception of herself, others, and her role in life has been seriously warped by the past few years-- Finding out she's a cylon, her programed attempt at killing Adama (her surrogate father-figure), her rejection by her Galactica family, her being killed and then reborn...
I think that Boomer is, quite simply, broken; and Cavil was able to take advantage of this fact to mold her into his tool. Not that this excuses any of her actions, but it does explain them.
I think that she does still have feelings for the Chief. Not the normal, healthy love felt between normal people. Something more like a hint of the memory of love, all warped and twisted up with feelings of resentment, anger, and betrayal.
Case in point- the way that she interacted with the Chief, while designed to fool him, felt more genuine than the way she interacted with Helo. Both situations were obviously deceptions, but the part she played with Tyrol felt a lot more real, even though it was a lot less intimate than her encounter with Helo.
Man; I don't think that things will end well for either Boomer or the Chief.
By the way.. Is Roslyn dead?
Interesting episode last night. Lot's of foreshadowing.
The ending of last night's episode was great. It made me sad, but it was great.
Was that an Old Style Cylon Raider in the Cylon Colony Boomer took Hera back to?
Looks like next week is going to be pretty cool, from the preview, looks like they are going to take the Galactica on a mission to take out Cavil and get Hera back. Maybe Anders will run the ship like the Hybrids do for the Basestars. Is the Galactica the dieing Leader?
Jeff, you and I saw the same thing. I think that was an old style Raider.
It will be interesting to see how this all ends up.
Quote from: moyer777 on March 07, 2009, 09:17:22 AM
Jeff, you and I saw the same thing. I think that was an old style Raider.
It will be interesting to see how this all ends up.
Yeah, we have seen those before.
I think the original viper and cylon raider were simplistic, but some of the coolest designs ever. For some reason those and the X-wing have stuck with me. I used to love sitting in the cockpit of Star Wars video game at the arcade. I always wanted to sit in the cockpit of a Viper. Some of my favorite scenes of the original Battlestar were when we would see the inside of a Raider. WOW! Very cool stuff.
Do you remember when the cereal companies had a promotion with a viper cockpit that you cut out of the back of the box? I had one of those.
Quote from: moyer777 on March 07, 2009, 09:25:56 AM
I think the original viper and cylon raider were simplistic, but some of the coolest designs ever. For some reason those and the X-wing have stuck with me. I used to love sitting in the cockpit of Star Wars video game at the arcade. I always wanted to sit in the cockpit of a Viper. Some of my favorite scenes of the original Battlestar were when we would see the inside of a Raider. WOW! Very cool stuff.
Do you remember when the cereal companies had a promotion with a viper cockpit that you cut out of the back of the box? I had one of those.
Yes, I agree, the Original designs of those ships were very cool, so anytime one of those appears on the screen, it is cause for a mini celebration for me. I always loved that shot from the original where they would show Cylon raiders flying in, one after the other, so cool. The cockpit view is also really cool, so if they do remake the original as Kenny posted in another thread, that it would be cool if some of those scenes are updated and included.
Tonight's episode was fun in seeing the Cylon raiders, as it reminded me of the Star Wars prequels and spotting the YT-1300's.
I wonder if the Galactica will smash into the basestars like the way Hera was playing with the toys :) , Maybe Lee will put on the Uniform one last time and take a Viper out as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if they find the base, jump there, rescue hera, get closer to the base, spool up the FTLs and pull a boomer on the super basestar, destroying Galactic and ending the Cylon civil war once and for all.
The whole Kara thing has me hooked. Is she connected to the Cylons or does she stem from more supernatural origins?
Baltar's 'outing' of her didn't seem too smart either. What's he up to?
I liked the episode, but the last 2-3 episodes for me have not advanced the overall plot much. We are getting some great character stuff, but considering they should be looking very hard for a new home I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen more recon/scout missions sent out. I'm enjoying it, but I guess I expected a little different approach. With two episodes left they sure have a lot to cover still.
I think that they already found a home. The Colony was abandoned, but not uninhabitable. New Caprica is still habitable. They just need to find a way to end the war then they can go there.
Quote from: Just X on March 07, 2009, 12:16:13 PM
I think that they already found a home. The Colony was abandoned, but not uninhabitable. New Caprica is still habitable. They just need to find a way to end the war then they can go there.
Hmm, they don't seem to be saying or thinking that at all. Remember the week before when Kara was sending out the patrols? I think New Caprica is much too far away now. Don't know enough about the other places yet.
I think everyone is so run down and beat up they may have stopped caring. Seems like more immediate concerns are on their mind (the Galactica for one)
Which ever way you cut it, they need to deal with the war first. If they settle somewhere was it stopping the other Cylons coming after them? The reason they headed for Earth was because they thought they would find millions of humans there of similar technology that could help them fight off the Cylons as well as give them sanctuary. When they found a 'ghost planet' the strategy had to change.
Quote from: Rico on March 07, 2009, 11:41:44 AM
I liked the episode, but the last 2-3 episodes for me have not advanced the overall plot much.
x2, I wish they had kept the momentum they had going from earlier in the season.
Quote from: jedijeff on March 07, 2009, 09:12:26 AM
Was that an Old Style Cylon Raider in the Cylon Colony Boomer took Hera back to?
Looks like next week is going to be pretty cool, from the preview, looks like they are going to take the Galactica on a mission to take out Cavil and get Hera back. Maybe Anders will run the ship like the Hybrids do for the Basestars. Is the Galactica the dieing Leader?
I think it's Adama. Notice how he's been taking a lot of pills lately?
Solid episode last night. Interesting to learn more about the characters back when they were still on Caprica. Wondering if any of that will be important in the last episode? Looks like it's go for broke time. Loved the scene on the hanger deck with Adama. Two hours next week! And don't forget, there's a special on Sci-Fi this coming Monday night at 10pm.
At first when they did the flash back to Caprica I was thinking oh, great, a preview for Ron Moore's next series wasting more time! But I found the back stories compelling and well done. I hope they have a point which we will learn at the end, otherwise it would just be a lot of exposition for naught. Once they got back to Galactica, the show continued to build great drama. Super stuff!
I kept wondering what the significance of the pigeon-dove in Lee's pad meant. Any thoughts anyone?
I think that sometimes a rose is just a rose and they were showing how those characters handle major change.
Just watched the last two episodes.. loving it.. can't wait for the two hour finale next week.. then no more BSG :( But man has it been a wild ride.
it has been a crazy ride hasn't it?
Yes it has been a wild ride, but well worth it. :cylon
When I look at the show now compared the situation when it began, it really shows you how TV can be compelling when people behind shows don't try to dumb things down for the masses. Galactica has been amazing from start to finish. This is because they took huge risks and trusting that the fan base would be able to make leaps with them.
Kudos. This week was a great buildup to the finale and next week will be an event I'm sure.
Well, Ron Moore on this weeks podcast officially put the kibosh on the Daniel as Kara's father plot line! He said he saw that growing traction on line and said that it is not the case. Now what?!
Quote from: Bryancd on March 17, 2009, 09:11:54 AM
Well, Ron Moore on this weeks podcast officially put the kibosh on the Daniel as Kara's father plot line! He said he saw that growing traction on line and said that it is not the case. Now what?!
I never thought that anyway. That would make Kara most likely another Cylon - which I firmly believe she is not a Cylon.
She's something, but a Cylon is not it.
Quote from: Rico on March 17, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on March 17, 2009, 09:11:54 AM
Well, Ron Moore on this weeks podcast officially put the kibosh on the Daniel as Kara's father plot line! He said he saw that growing traction on line and said that it is not the case. Now what?!
I never thought that anyway. That would make Kara most likely another Cylon - which I firmly believe she is not a Cylon.
Well, no she would have been a hybrid, like Hera, and hybrids seem to be very important.
Quote from: Bryancd on March 17, 2009, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Rico on March 17, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on March 17, 2009, 09:11:54 AM
Well, Ron Moore on this weeks podcast officially put the kibosh on the Daniel as Kara's father plot line! He said he saw that growing traction on line and said that it is not the case. Now what?!
I never thought that anyway. That would make Kara most likely another Cylon - which I firmly believe she is not a Cylon.
Well, no she would have been a hybrid, like Hera, and hybrids seem to be very important.
Why do you say that? Daniel I thought is one of the makers, like Ellen, etc. And they made Cylons - like the final five or final six or whatever number they are up to now. Hera is unique - one of a kind. At least so far.
Right, he's the 13th Cylon, not one of the "makers", and Kara's mom was human= Hybrid. But it's moot as Daniel isn't her father so she is not a hybrid, only Hera is.
Quote from: Bryancd on March 17, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Right, he's the 13th Cylon, not one of the "makers", and Kara's mom was human= Hybrid. But it's moot as Daniel isn't her father so she is not a hybrid, only Hera is.
I can see what you are saying, but that would never have worked. They have said time and time again that Hera is unique and the first Cylon-human offspring ever.
Quote from: Rico on March 17, 2009, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on March 17, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Right, he's the 13th Cylon, not one of the "makers", and Kara's mom was human= Hybrid. But it's moot as Daniel isn't her father so she is not a hybrid, only Hera is.
I can see what you are saying, but that would never have worked. They have said time and time again that Hera is unique and the first Cylon-human offspring ever.
It wasn't just me, Ron Moore had to address it as the theory had gained so much traction! We kicked it around a few pages ago in this thread.
Oh my...dunno if this is new or old but find below the link to a very, very detailed BSG "frak map", hilarious. I didn't realize Roslyn frakked Adar!
http://www.battlestargalactica-wiki.com/page/Battlestar+Galactica+Frakmap?t=anon (http://www.battlestargalactica-wiki.com/page/Battlestar+Galactica+Frakmap?t=anon)
Quote from: billybob476 on March 18, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
Oh my...dunno if this is new or old but find below the link to a very, very detailed BSG "frak map", hilarious. I didn't realize Roslyn frakked Adar!
http://www.battlestargalactica-wiki.com/page/Battlestar+Galactica+Frakmap?t=anon (http://www.battlestargalactica-wiki.com/page/Battlestar+Galactica+Frakmap?t=anon)
LOL Pretty cool.. Lot of Frakin' going on in the Rag-Tag fleet! And it looks like everyone but Bill, Roslyn, and Adar has either fraked Baltar, or fraked someone who's fraked him.
So; Anders Fraked Seelix?!? Which episode was that?
If you click on the arrow it tells you the details.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 18, 2009, 06:18:21 PM
If you click on the arrow it tells you the details.
Thanks; I just checked it out. :thumbsup
So; I guess it's not certain whether or not they hooked up.
OK, what an episode the finale was.
[spoiler]I really didn't know what you expect, other than I was excited about how they were going to end things up.
Stand out moments---Adama saying goodbye to the Galactica. Very moving and awesome.
Roslyn saying thank you to the grumpy Dr. -- almost made me cry.
The raid on the base ship-- Old style Cylons mixed with the new, AWESOME.
The space battle was INCREDIBLE!
Cavill (sp?) blowing his head off.
The Galactica after coming out of her last jump. I was getting choked up over a fictitious space ship.
Starbuck entering the coordinates from her musical notes
The fleet heading toward the sun with the old style Battlestar Music- I just love that soundtrack anyway.
The picture of the moon, the Earth and Africa starring at us. Nice.
The death of Roslyn was very touching and Edward is one of the best actors ever. I loved it. I was moved.
Ron Moore reading the magazine 150,000 years in the future.
Adama over looking the African landscape... nice. Very nice. I did kind of expect the witch doctor from lion king to walk past. Just a little. :)
Could have gone without---
Pole dancing on Caprica (huh?)
Starbuck and Apollo on a table?
The first old style cylon looked like a cartoon. (they got better)
screaming cylons in liquid and all their other buds screaming. Geez.
Ok after all those little comments. I liked the show. I expected more of a twist, and was a little confused by parts of it with six and baltar. What happened to Kira? Hmmmmmm. I don't know.
I enjoyed it for the entertainment value and need to think about the spiritual aspects of it. Baltars comment at the end kind of got me wondering.
"He doesn't like being called that?" OK. Hmmm.
All in all, pretty cool finale if you ask me.
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Just finished watching
[spoiler]Really liked the Raid on the Colony. The Cylon against Cylon action was great, loved seeing the Old School Cylons in there as well, and seeing their newer counterparts run past them in the halls. Could have done with some more Viper / Raider screen time. Would have been nice to see Starbuck and Apollo go out one last time.
I sort of guessed that the Opera Scene was going to end up as it was, with Baltar and Six saving Hera instead of taking her away, and it just being a Cylon projection.
Really loved the scene where they flew the fleet into the sun, nice homage to the Original series, with the music playing in the background. Perfect way to take out the galactica. Felt bad for the old ship when it came out of its last jump, I thought it was going to break apart there. Great scene by the visual effects people.
Would have liked if they would have explained Starbuck a bit more, felt that was not really ever addressed. Her disappearing well talking to Lee was nicely done, but it would have been nice to have gotten something about her at some point in the show.[/spoiler]
WOW!!!
Loved it, Loved it, Loved it!!!
Totally satisfied with the way the series ended. I will save more for when others post.
Rick....I am right there with you regarding Baltar's comment about God at the end. I am hoping that someone could expound on that a it more.
With regard to Starbuck...
[spoiler]I understood that she was an "angel sent from God" just like head six and ahead Baltar. Though everyone could see her. [/spoiler]
Anyways I thought it was an AMAZING finale. I really did enjoy it.
Just really loved the finale. Thought it was well paced and they had left enough time at the end for the goodbyes. Some of my thoughts and details
[spoiler]I thought Starbuck was explained fine. She was an angel sent by God (like head Six and head Baltar). Except, she was able to actually do things and help.
I loved how they got Hera back and that Athena took out Boomer. If anyone ever took one of my kids - well no mercy.
Loved the scene with Coddle and Roslyn - very touching.
Adama and Roslyn - well what can I say. I'm tearing up again right now. :'(
That they finally found our EARTH - I yelled when I saw them come out over the moon and saw our little planet.
This show was so unique in that it's a sci-fi show that really embraced the ideas of God and religion. Cool stuff!
So, I guess this means everyone on Earth has a little Cylon in them now - hehe! [/spoiler]
Like I said in the shout - WOW.
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When they jumped into the hornets nest WOW.
When the Chief got payback for Callie WOW.
When Baltar shot the dead cylon WOW
When Boomer got some sense and gave Hera back WOW.
When Hilo survived WOW.
When they jumped to earth WOW.
When they took the fleet into the sun WOW.
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Why can't all shows be written like this ?
I was happy, but I did notice some important things at the end:
[spoiler] With Hera being Mitochondria Eve and all humans in our time being descendant of her, Kara was the Harbinger of Death. None of those 36,000 people went on to have families of their own. Humanity died and was reborn through Hera on Earth.
I loved Bill giving Ros his ring at the end. It was a powerful symbol.
I love that we don't know what's going on with everything in the heavens. While the Cylons and Baltar had the one Cylon god. Rosalyn never turned her back on the gods of Kobol and was still a part of the visions and the prophecy that their holy book held.
I loved the line of God not liking to be called god. It makes sense and picks up on what was said earlier. God isn't good or evil. It's a force of nature and we just sorta put our baggage on god, but what we do is really on us. It didn't make us do it. Just like it gave it's chosen few the tools to do something better, but it never made them do anything except figure out who they were.
Another thing that I loved it how everything tied into our world. BSG is a story right? Or is it a memory from our Cylon DNA that we subconsciously recalled? Our world looks like their world because it's in our genes and history to build in that fashion. So did Glen Larsen create BSG or simply tell a story that was hidden deep in the memory of our genes? [/spoiler]
I guess the big question is...
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Are WE going to perpetuate the cycle? Or will we be different?
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Quote from: billybob476 on March 21, 2009, 09:13:54 AM
I guess the big question is...
[spoiler]
Are WE going to perpetuate the cycle? Or will we be different?
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Magic 8-ball says Yes
No - I think their message was we broke the cycle. They even said that a few times. Things aren't the same. Cylons and humans have created a new world together now - blending with each other. I consider that a different ending - and a positive one.
Quote from: Rico on March 21, 2009, 10:42:49 AM
No - I think their message was we broke the cycle. They even said that a few times. Things aren't the same. Cylons and humans have created a new world together now - blending with each other. I consider that a different ending - and a positive one.
As long as Asimo doesn't rise up and kill us! :)
Or creepy Japanese girl robot......man that thing gives me the heebi-jeebies
Wow that was so awesome
[spoiler] the end part creeped me out because I thought they were saying the cycle won't be broken, I actually cried when Roslyn died! the last time I even shed a tear was when Rorschach died in Watchmen. I loved the CGI.I am glad chief avenged his wife that was an awesome scene of mayhem[/spoiler]
Awesome finale, more on that later, but why did Bear McReady rip off the soundtrack from A L I E N ?
A very end to the series!
[spoiler]I wonder if will will see some novels appear now to tie in the Galactica people to Earth ancient civilizations etc. That would make some good reading![/spoiler]
William Adama and Hera as Eve
Adam and Eve
Quote from: Bryancd on March 21, 2009, 10:07:06 PM
Awesome finale, more on that later, but why did Bear McReady rip off the soundtrack from A L I E N ?
What part was that Bryan?
Quote from: Rico on March 22, 2009, 05:22:56 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on March 21, 2009, 10:07:06 PM
Awesome finale, more on that later, but why did Bear McReady rip off the soundtrack from A L I E N ?
What part was that Bryan?
The musical score when they were down on Earth. The musical cue's were from A L I E N. I heard it right away. I'll see if I can find an audio clip to post so you can hear it.
Still on my TIVO - I'll check it out.
Quote from: Just X[spoiler] With Hera being Mitochondria Eve and all humans in our time being descendant of her, Kara was the Harbinger of Death. None of those 36,000 people went on to have families of their own. Humanity died and was reborn through Hera on Earth.[/spoiler]
I brought that up on another forum, and a friend there pointed out that this might not necessarily be true- [spoiler] The survivors likely had families, and eventually interbred with some of the proto-humans. Hera as Eve just means that their lines ended up crossing with Hera's line, resulting in her genes being shared by all of current humanity. [/spoiler] But the prophecy about Kara's status could sill be interpreted as accurate. Her [spoiler] punching in the notes to take the Galactica on a jump to our Earth effectively killed the Old Girl; as Tigh said, 'breaking her back'. Kara was the Harbinger Of Death for the Galactica, which in many ways was one of the main characters of the show. [/spoiler].
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 22, 2009, 09:20:02 AM
Quote from: Just X[spoiler] With Hera being Mitochondria Eve and all humans in our time being descendant of her, Kara was the Harbinger of Death. None of those 36,000 people went on to have families of their own. Humanity died and was reborn through Hera on Earth.[/spoiler]
I brought that up on another forum, and a friend there pointed out that this might not necessarily be true- [spoiler] The survivors likely had families, and eventually interbred with some of the proto-humans. Hera as Eve just means that their lines ended up crossing with Hera's line, resulting in her genes being shared by all of current humanity. [/spoiler] But the prophecy about Kara's status could sill be interpreted as accurate. Her [spoiler] punching in the notes to take the Galactica on a jump to our Earth effectively killed the Old Girl; as Tigh said, 'breaking her back'. Kara was the Harbinger Of Death for the Galactica, which in many ways was one of the main characters of the show. [/spoiler].
the only problem with that is:
[spoiler]Mitochondrial DNA is only passed from mother to child. It isn't inherited from the father's side and that would mean that anyone else that was a female and had daughter would need to be wiped out for only Hera's mitochondria dna to be present in all of humanity.
I like what they tried to do, but the science isn't there for that jump. Here is something fun to read about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve)[/spoiler]
Just finished the finale and I'm a mess.. previous posts brought up some of my favorite scenes so I won't repeat them. I teared up many times through out the two hours but I think Adama giving Roslyn his wedding ring did me in.
It was a fantastic ending to a wonderful TV series.
Quote from: Just X on March 22, 2009, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: wraith1701 on March 22, 2009, 09:20:02 AM
Quote from: Just X[spoiler] With Hera being Mitochondria Eve and all humans in our time being descendant of her, Kara was the Harbinger of Death. None of those 36,000 people went on to have families of their own. Humanity died and was reborn through Hera on Earth.[/spoiler]
I brought that up on another forum, and a friend there pointed out that this might not necessarily be true- [spoiler] The survivors likely had families, and eventually interbred with some of the proto-humans. Hera as Eve just means that their lines ended up crossing with Hera's line, resulting in her genes being shared by all of current humanity. [/spoiler] But the prophecy about Kara's status could sill be interpreted as accurate. Her [spoiler] punching in the notes to take the Galactica on a jump to our Earth effectively killed the Old Girl; as Tigh said, 'breaking her back'. Kara was the Harbinger Of Death for the Galactica, which in many ways was one of the main characters of the show. [/spoiler].
the only problem with that is:
[spoiler]Mitochondrial DNA is only passed from mother to child. It isn't inherited from the father's side and that would mean that anyone else that was a female and had daughter would need to be wiped out for only Hera's mitochondria dna to be present in all of humanity.[/spoiler]
What about the folks who had sons? [spoiler] If the sons had children with the female descendants of Hera, wouldn't they carry the same DNA? And when jump technology, artificial gravity, and reincarnation through Downloading are possible, I don't think it's too far a stretch to think that maybe Hera had some type of genetics that operated differently from how our science understands them to work. [/spoiler]
On another note; I was inspired to track down this video. When I was a kid, the opening monologue really fired up my imagination. I still get goosebumps listening to it today. :)
I'm the same. I probably couldn't stand to watch the series again but that whole opening was always brilliant in my view.
Can't-remember-his-name Hyde-White did the the monologue. It always surprised me to hear an English voice at a time when all Sci-Fi apart from Doctor Who appeared to be US made.
Quote from: Feathers on March 22, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
I'm the same. I probably couldn't stand to watch the series again but that whole opening was always brilliant in my view.
Can't-remember-his-name Hyde-White did the the monologue. It always surprised me to hear an English voice at a time when all Sci-Fi apart from Doctor Who appeared to be US made.
Patrick Macnee did the voice over for opening of Original Battlestar Galactica. He was also Court Iblis in
War of the Gods and the voice of the Imperious Leader.
Maybe I'm going crazy but I'm sure I remember a scene (not sure if it was in the mini series or an early season) where a character is whistling the theme tune to Original BSG. I remember thinking that was pretty cool!
IN the mini series the original theme was used as the Colonial national anthem.
Quote from: Dangelus on March 22, 2009, 12:36:56 PM
Maybe I'm going crazy but I'm sure I remember a scene (not sure if it was in the mini series or an early season) where a character is whistling the theme tune to Original BSG. I remember thinking that was pretty cool!
You did. :)
Was it really MacNee. I was sure it was Hyde-White. He was in the show too in the early days. Some sort of scientist I think.
Well I never. Hyde-White was in one episode as someone important but the scientist character was in 'Buck Rogers in the 25th Century'.
I've always believed he was the credit announcer. I hate being wrong :(
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Maybe I'm going crazy but I'm sure I remember a scene (not sure if it was in the mini series or an early season) where a character is whistling the theme tune to Original BSG. I remember thinking that was pretty cool!
Quote from: billybob476 on March 22, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
IN the mini series the original theme was used as the Colonial national anthem.
Yep. And if I remember correctly, it was played during Galactica's retirement ceremony during the first part of the mini-series. There's also a really cool version of the song on one of McCreary's BSG soundtracks (I think it's season 2)
I have to say, while I wasnt thrilled with BSG as of late, RM did a great job on the ending. It wasnt a suprise though, it was one of the possible endings in our office pool.
Plus, the whole 'It's all happened before, it will all happen again' kinda hinted at it. But, it was a great relief to see them all out of harms way.
Loved the way Cavil went out...just cool.
But, now what to do on friday nights for TV viewing?
Battlestar Galactica Series Finale Redux: So Do We Live Happily Ever After?
Jennifer Godwin Jennifer Godwin – Sat Mar 21, 1:27 pm ET
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Battlestar Galactica, a visually grim and philosophically dark series for the duration of its run, had no obligation to end with twittering birds, romantic curlicues and happy, healing Helo. It was a gift, then, that it ended on such a triumphal, thoughtful note, and for that gift plus the entirety of four epic years with this great story, we offer a sincere and hearty thank you to the creators, cast and crew.
But enough niceties. Let's get cracking into what went down in the series finale of Battlestar Galactica and, more importantly, what series creator Ronald D. Moore has to say about it...
Look Homeward: So at last Kara Thrace (Katee Sackhoff) goes to her hard-earned rest. She found Earth, yo! For the record, though, that man teaching her piano (and therefore giving her the FTL-drive coordinates to our new home) was not Daniel. According to Ronald D. Moore at the BSG finale event last week, "Daniel's definitely a rabbit hole" that fans fell down and not the key to Kara's everlasting mystery. Instead, says R.D.M., "Kara is what you want her to be. It's easy to put the label on her of angel or messenger of God. Kara Thrace died, was resurrected, and came back and took the people to their final end. That was destiny in the show."
The Vixen and the Geek: Well, after four years of sex, lies and hallucinations, we've learned that both Caprica Six and Gaius Baltar were haunted by each other, but what they were haunted by remains unclear. According to R.D.M., "We never tried to name exactly what we called the Head-Baltar and Head-Six throughout the show internally, and we never really looked at them as angels or demons, because they would periodically say evil things and good things, and they tended to save people and tended to damn people. There was a sense that they worked in service of something else—you could say a higher power or you could say another power—that was guiding and helping, sometimes obstructing, sometimes tempting the mortal people in the show. The idea at the very end was whatever they are in service of continues and is eternal and is always around. And they too are still around, and they too are still here with us, with all of us who are the children of Hera, and in one way, shape or form they continue to walk among us and watch, and at some point they may or may not intercede at a key moment. That was the concept behind the last images." And if you ask us, those last images were quite magnificent. Also magnificent? Caprica's declaration that she'd always wanted to be proud of Baltar, the revelation of their genuine love and affection for one another, Baltar's speech to Cavil about a leap of faith, and Baltar weeping in Caprica's arms about...farming. Were you happy with that coupling finally coming to be?
Mountain Men: Were you happy with the lonely fates of the Chief and Lee Adama? The Chief is apparently off to be a great Scot, and Lee wanders the world...Was that the right ending for those two?
Heart: It's hard to call Helo and Athena a fairy-tale couple when there was that time that Athena was punitively raped for being a Cylon, and then that other time when Helo frakked Athena's "evil twin" Boomer, but still...Gotta love where those two started and that they ended up together, bickering adorably. Not to mention the fact that their cutest-kid-in-the-fleet moppet Hera turned out to be mitochondrial Eve.
Did the Agathon family ending make you happiest, or were you more delighted by Adama posthumously making Roslin his wife?
Were you satisfied or disappointed with the series finale of Battlestar Galactica?
Here's a very long but cool interview and article about the finale of BSG.
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/03/battlestar-galactica-daybreak-finale-moore-mcdonnell-olmos.html (http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/03/battlestar-galactica-daybreak-finale-moore-mcdonnell-olmos.html)
I personally loved the ending to BSG. I liked how they didn't really answer who Starbuck was, or who Head-Six and Head-Baltar were. It was very cool and stayed true to the mythology of the show that was started way back in the miniseries. I read that a few people thought that the answers that were given were copouts, but they dont really realize that the ideas put forth were things that have been in the show since the start.
My only problem with the ending is I really don't like the fate of Chief Tyrol. I don't know, but to think of him all alone on Scotland. Same to a slightly lesser degree with Adama. Why would Adama never see his son again? That makes little sense to me. Sure, he may need some time apart, but to never see him again.
Lee's ending actually my favorite. It made sense that he would want to go out, explore, find new things. It was very nice.
One thing I think to keep in mind is this is just what they said they would all do, after like 5 minutes on Earth. Hard to say that in a month, a year, ten years, people didn't change their minds and do something else. It's just a little slice of time we were shown.
I Love the onion! :)
Note minor spoilers in the article if you haven't seen the finale.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_depressed_distant_since (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_depressed_distant_since)
"Galactica" Could Have Had a Very Different Ending
April 1, 2009 by Michael Hickerson || Category: TV News
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/04/01/galactica-could-have-had-a-very-differnent-edning/ (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/04/01/galactica-could-have-had-a-very-differnent-edning/)
With the finale of "Battlestar Galactica" in the books, series producer Ron Moore has been giving fans some insight into other ways the series could have ended.
Moore recently wrote in the SciFi Channel discussion boards that one intial idea was to not destroy the ship by having it fly into the sun, but instead to have it crash in a Peruvian jungle.
"There was a point in the development process where we discussed the idea of the Galactica not being destroyed, but having somehow landed on the surface more or less intact, but unable to ever get into orbit again (the particulars here were never worked out, so don't ask how she made it down without being torn apart). We talked about them basically abandoning the ship and moving out into the world.
"Cut to the present-day in Central America where there are these enormous mysterious mounds that archeologists have not been able to understand (it may have been South America, I can't recall the exact location, but these mounds really do exist). Someone is doing a new kind of survey of the mounds with some kind of ground-penetrating radar or something and lo and behold, we see the outlines of the Galactica still buried under the surface."
Moore said they ultimately didn't go with the ending because they wouldn't have been able to reconcile it with the "reality" of the series.
"It was an intriguing idea and we bandied it about for a while, but ultimately rejected it as a little too cute and also felt that it would violate our contemporary reality, in essence 'branching off' the BSG story in 2009 into an parallel reality where a battlestar was discovered in Central America. I wanted the end of the show to directly relate to us, not to a world where that event had occurred."
I would have almost wet my pants for that ending, so cool
Quote from: Trekkygeek on April 13, 2009, 06:59:48 AM
I would have almost wet my pants for that ending, so cool
Horrible thought! ;)
Quote from: Feathers on April 13, 2009, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: Trekkygeek on April 13, 2009, 06:59:48 AM
I would have almost wet my pants for that ending, so cool
Horrible thought! ;)
Really? I don't think that ending would have been THAT horrible ;D