Amazon's Kindle Fire Tablet

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KingIsaacLinksr

Something else I found out, those Kindle prices are with "Special Offers" (Advertisements).  You'll have to pay an additional $30-40 to get them without ads.  Very sneaky that Amazon doesn't mention this anywhere on their website atm...

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I think that this is going to be a big hit in a lot of places. I can already see the benefits of a 200 buck tablet for Junior High and High School students. I think that's the cost of a single text book and there is far less overhead for a school to worry about.

Kindle is already a juggernaut and combine that with some of the cheaper entries and you have a means of addressing a huge segment of the population that can't pony up a ton of cash for each person in a family.

As for the special offers ... it's ads outside of the reading. They don't come on when you are reading anything, so I can see that not playing much of a factor.

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KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: X on September 28, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
I think that this is going to be a big hit in a lot of places. I can already see the benefits of a 200 buck tablet for Junior High and High School students. I think that's the cost of a single text book and there is far less overhead for a school to worry about.

Kindle is already a juggernaut and combine that with some of the cheaper entries and you have a means of addressing a huge segment of the population that can't pony up a ton of cash for each person in a family.

As for the special offers ... it's ads outside of the reading. They don't come on when you are reading anything, so I can see that not playing much of a factor.

As long as the book publishers allow the usage of it on the Tablets, then yes, that is a very good point. 

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Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on September 28, 2011, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: X on September 28, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
I think that this is going to be a big hit in a lot of places. I can already see the benefits of a 200 buck tablet for Junior High and High School students. I think that's the cost of a single text book and there is far less overhead for a school to worry about.

Kindle is already a juggernaut and combine that with some of the cheaper entries and you have a means of addressing a huge segment of the population that can't pony up a ton of cash for each person in a family.

As for the special offers ... it's ads outside of the reading. They don't come on when you are reading anything, so I can see that not playing much of a factor.

As long as the book publishers allow the usage of it on the Tablets, then yes, that is a very good point. 

King
What do you mean? They already do it. You can get college and some hs text books now and for the last couple of years.

KingIsaacLinksr

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Quote from: X on September 28, 2011, 10:41:31 AM
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on September 28, 2011, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: X on September 28, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
I think that this is going to be a big hit in a lot of places. I can already see the benefits of a 200 buck tablet for Junior High and High School students. I think that's the cost of a single text book and there is far less overhead for a school to worry about.

Kindle is already a juggernaut and combine that with some of the cheaper entries and you have a means of addressing a huge segment of the population that can't pony up a ton of cash for each person in a family.

As for the special offers ... it's ads outside of the reading. They don't come on when you are reading anything, so I can see that not playing much of a factor.

As long as the book publishers allow the usage of it on the Tablets, then yes, that is a very good point. 

King
What do you mean? They already do it. You can get college and some hs text books now and for the last couple of years.

A very select few.  For he past year and a half I've checked every book that I got, on Amazon, and it was not available on the Kindle. 

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X

I was just thinking about this and I checked some prices. Some textbooks are free ... a bunch are less than 10. Can you imagine how much more our children can learn if their classes aren't limited to the bought in bulk text books of old? With cheap text at our fingers, we could actually rebuilt the foundation of our education systems. Libraries in schools that can be a mix of text and digital.

I have so many great memories studying in the school library, but at the same time I have so much disappointment when searching out a book and discovering that we don't carry it. Just imagine the possibilities of a virtual library in conjunction with the physical must haves.

At less than 100 for a reader, I think we've found something that might work well.

billybob476

Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on September 28, 2011, 10:12:59 AM
Something else I found out, those Kindle prices are with "Special Offers" (Advertisements).  You'll have to pay an additional $30-40 to get them without ads.  Very sneaky that Amazon doesn't mention this anywhere on their website atm...

King

Looks pretty clearly indicated to me

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Quote from: billybob476 on September 28, 2011, 11:05:41 AM
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on September 28, 2011, 10:12:59 AM
Something else I found out, those Kindle prices are with "Special Offers" (Advertisements).  You'll have to pay an additional $30-40 to get them without ads.  Very sneaky that Amazon doesn't mention this anywhere on their website atm...

King

Looks pretty clearly indicated to me
Yeah, I saw that too.

Jobydrone

Wow!!! Special offers AND it's $30 cheaper!!!  This is amazing.  Why would someone pay MORE to voluntarily not get the special offers?!?  That's just crazy!!!

"I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."  -Groucho Marx

billybob476

As far as I've heard the "special offers" display when the device is in standby and don't affect the reading experience at all.

Ktrek

I have looked and looked at pics of the Fire on their website and they are either lying about the overall size of the Fire or lying about the screen size. The over all dimensions are supposed to be 7.5 inches in length. That would leave room for only 1/4 inch borders on the top and bottom. The bottom border has to be at least one inch and the top a half inch. That would make the screen a 6 inch and not 7.

Also, the only real improvement I see over B&Ns Nook is the dual quad processor. Otherwise the Nook has better support of various file types and more options to buy. Yea the nook can't get the Amazon streams but I bet there is or will be an app I could download on my softrooted nook that would do that if I was willing to pay for "Prime" membership, which I am not! Hulu works just fine thank you! I can't believe that people think this is innovative. Amazon just finally woke up and realized that B&N had outbested them and now they are playing catch up. This does not do anything that I have cannot do and have been doing on my Nook color for a year now.

Kevin
"Oh...Well, Who am I to argue with me?" Dr. Bashir - Visionary - Deep Space Nine

X

Quote from: Ktrek on September 28, 2011, 05:02:04 PM
I have looked and looked at pics of the Fire on their website and they are either lying about the overall size of the Fire or lying about the screen size. The over all dimensions are supposed to be 7.5 inches in length. That would leave room for only 1/4 inch borders on the top and bottom. The bottom border has to be at least one inch and the top a half inch. That would make the screen a 6 inch and not 7.

Also, the only real improvement I see over B&Ns Nook is the dual quad processor. Otherwise the Nook has better support of various file types and more options to buy. Yea the nook can't get the Amazon streams but I bet there is or will be an app I could download on my softrooted nook that would do that if I was willing to pay for "Prime" membership, which I am not! Hulu works just fine thank you! I can't believe that people think this is innovative. Amazon just finally woke up and realized that B&N had outbested them and now they are playing catch up. This does not do anything that I have cannot do and have been doing on my Nook color for a year now.

Kevin
Screens are measured diagonally.

Bryancd

Gene Munster, a terrific equity analysts at Piper Jaffray, just summed up best what the Fire means to Amazon. They want to put the Amazin store into everyone's pocket. As I mentioned, Amazon will loose money on units sold but is looking to make that up by providing a seamless interface to their retail business. It's a great concept. he also agrees with what I have been saying, this is not an iPad competitor, it's a totally different market. It is a very real competitor for some of the other Droid OS tablets however due to it's massive price point advantage.

X

Quote from: Bryancd on September 28, 2011, 05:15:25 PM
Gene Munster, a terrific equity analysts at Piper Jaffray, just summed up best what the Fire means to Amazon. They want to put the Amazin store into everyone's pocket. As I mentioned, Amazon will loose money on units sold but is looking to make that up by providing a seamless interface to their retail business. It's a great concept. he also agrees with what I have been saying, this is not an iPad competitor, it's a totally different market. It is a very real competitor for some of the other Droid OS tablets however due to it's massive price point advantage.
I can agree with most of this. I don't think they are out to beat Apple, but capitalize on their large customer base. I can see a lot of potential here.