New Macbook Air

Bromptonboy · October 20, 2010, 02:06:24 PM

Now these are sweet looking machines! The 11" model tempts more sorely.

Bryancd · October 20, 2010, 02:58:08 PM

Yeah, they needed to up both form factor and price. Now that they have iPad at the lowest price point for a portable Mac, now the Air can bridge the gap up to the MacBook Pro's. I'm also thinking some iPad customers can be upsold to the Air, way higher margins.

Rico · October 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM

Still over-priced and under-powered. There, I said it! ;)

KingIsaacLinksr · October 20, 2010, 03:33:26 PM

Quote from: Rico on October 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Still over-priced and under-powered. There, I said it! ;)

If I wasn't so infatuated with getting a Pad of somekind next year, the New Macbook Air would be what I get. I have decided to part ways with Windows on portable devices.

Does that make me a fanboy? Oh well ;)

I still like Windows 7 on my desktop though...and so far have no reason to switch to Mac yet. Windows did do a good job on the OS so it's not like I'm a total convert. (/denial)

King

Bryancd · October 20, 2010, 05:21:17 PM

Quote from: Rico on October 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Still over-priced and under-powered. There, I said it! ;)

Oh..no...you did NOT go there!!!!! ;)

X · October 20, 2010, 05:27:33 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Rico on October 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Still over-priced and under-powered. There, I said it! ;)

Oh..no...you did NOT go there!!!!! ;)

He did, but he isn't wrong is he?

KingIsaacLinksr · October 20, 2010, 05:33:58 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Rico on October 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Still over-priced and under-powered. There, I said it! ;)

Oh..no...you did NOT go there!!!!! ;)

He did Bryan. We need to have an intervention with Rico, we need to make him a believer!! ;)

King

Rico · October 20, 2010, 05:35:33 PM

It's just the same old argument. Apple picks form over function. It's an awesome looking piece of hardware, but a decent laptop that costs half of that can run circles around it. For that matter, so can a Macbook Pro at the same price point.

Bryancd · October 20, 2010, 05:40:04 PM

Quote from: X on October 20, 2010, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Rico on October 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Still over-priced and under-powered. There, I said it! ;)

Oh..no...you did NOT go there!!!!! ;)
He did, but he isn't wrong is he?

"Worth", "Value", "Cost" are subjective to the wants and means and goals of the buyer, so what may not be worth it to you will very much be so for someone else. You spend you money how you want and I'll do the same.

alanp · October 20, 2010, 05:58:30 PM

Personally, I love mac for a desktop, but I really don't see much the value in spending the extra money on a portable status symbol. I do my serious computing on my iMac and I also have a linux laptop for any computing I might need to do away from home.

Bryancd · October 20, 2010, 06:17:53 PM

I was just joking with Rico in my second post, but my first post better states the true value of the Air. Once again, a very large percentage of ten computer buying market really don't care how much RAM, how fast the processor is, how much HD storage, ect., ect., ect. I couldn't even tell you any of those numbers for my 4 year old iMac. I just know it, and my little iPad, does what I want an needed it to do. If you place value on having the most extreme numbers and tech specs, then you are not me are a different consumer. I can tell you there are more "me's" than "you's" out there. People want it easy, cool, and what they are familiar with.

loutzee · October 20, 2010, 06:27:54 PM

Trouble with the macbook is I always want to skip to the last page to see who did it.

X · October 20, 2010, 07:06:53 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 06:17:53 PM
I was just joking with Rico in my second post, but my first post better states the true value of the Air. Once again, a very large percentage of ten computer buying market really don't care how much RAM, how fast the processor is, how much HD storage, ect., ect., ect. I couldn't even tell you any of those numbers for my 4 year old iMac. I just know it, and my little iPad, does what I want an needed it to do. If you place value on having the most extreme numbers and tech specs, then you are not me are a different consumer. I can tell you there are more "me's" than "you's" out there. People want it easy, cool, and what they are familiar with.

I don't think there are. If that was the case, they wouldn't plaster the specs all over machines. Also, have you been to a best buy or something lately, specs are pretty damned important to most consumers.

Granted, I'm sure that there are a lot of you's out there, but I don't think that a majority of people don't care about the specs of their machines.

I think it all comes down to levels of disposable income. If you're in a bracket with higher levels of disposable income, form over function has always been the norm. However, most consumers are not in the higher tiers and are looking for the best bang for their buck.

Which is why despite the numbers that apple is pulling down. Windows based systems still sell magnitudes more. While some of America would choose the $500.00 cheese burger, most of them are happy with the $5.00 version ... especially if they can get a deal on it.

When Apple stores out number Best Buys and Walmarts, I'll revise my position.

Bryancd · October 20, 2010, 07:11:53 PM

Nope, they just want it to work. I have never even come close to filling up my desktop with stuff. I barely fill up my iPod and don't come close with the iPad. Most laptops have WAY more power and memory than most people ever use. That is a fact. Apple isn't interested in being the WalMart of technology. They are selling something different. How many times do I need to explain this to you? And if shopping at WalMart is your idea of value versus best quality, well...

And by the way, people with more disposable income often get that way because they are fairly clever, don't discount them as savvy. Wealth management is what I do for a living. This is very much in my wheel house.

X · October 20, 2010, 07:32:31 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on October 20, 2010, 07:11:53 PM
Nope, they just want it to work. I have never even come close to filling up my desktop with stuff. I barely fill up my iPod and don't come close with the iPad. Most laptops have WAY more power and memory than most people ever use. That is a fact. Apple isn't interested in being the WalMart of technology. They are selling something different. How many times do I need to explain this to you?

And by the way, people with more disposable income often get that way because they are fairly clever, don't discount them as savvy. Wealth management is what I do for a living.

I know first hand how savvy they can be. Most of my father's family is extremely wealthy. I get called weekly by one of them telling me they are looking for certain tech that does a certain thing. Then they ask me to run comparisons on what will do what they want, what the value is in exceeding their desires, and a few products to compare.

Since they can spend more on something than I can without breaking the bank, they have a wider range.

As for most laptops having more memory and power than people use, I guess it all depends on the person. My father loves to take pictures and has a 12 megapix camera. He had to get a new laptop several times over the last 3 years to keep up with what he wants to do. Sure the other side of it is sending email, but memory is a big decider for him and he isn't tech savvy at all.

He also had to upgrade his ipod because he had too many songs for the last 3 that he had.

I totally agree with you that Apple is selling something different. What I don't agree with is that there are more of you than us. If that was the case, Apple would be a huge seller, but when in reality it's nowhere close to Windows based PC sales.

I think that you want there to be more of you than us, it would do wonders for Apple stock, but that's just not the case. Apple is doing a damned good job at selling cool stuff, but most normal people want value for what they buy. There are many that do like the cool, but the majority of consumers want a good value for their purchase.