Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - possible spoilers now....

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Jobydrone

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Quote from: Bryancd on June 20, 2008, 08:45:36 AM
I couldn't disagree more. I have no problem "letting go" and just enjoying the movie, but this movie wasn't good. Period. My buddy I saw it with felt the same way. If it's not good, it's not good. I don't see why people feel compelled to accept that just because we got a fourth movie made we need to just shut up and be thankful. I'm glad you all enjoyed it but I don't think that the many that didn't are simply unwilling to let go, I think they are simply calling a spade a spade.

Besides, I have read what I consider some exceedingly generous reviews of movies around here under the guise of "it's a good popcorn flick" or "it's a good summer movie" blah, blah, blah. Sometimes movies just suck and it's ok!    :dry
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Quote from: Bryancd on June 20, 2008, 09:31:20 AM
No, that's all cool, I just think to assume that someone doesn't like something because of other peoples views or that they can't let go or it's the fourth movie, ect. is presumptuous. Personally I think it's ok to not like a movie not because you have some deep seeded predisposition against it but just because it's just plain not good in the viewers opinion.
I'm really responding to what Jorby said.

My post was not in any way directed at you, Bryan.  I sure am sorry you took it so personally.  It was a general opinion about the negative response this movie has gotten since its release.  Maybe it's presumptuous, but it's what I believe.  But since you made this personal, in my mind your over the top reaction to my general post confirms that I am right and you need help relaxing and letting go!  Your opinion about things is not gospel.  Just because you thought something sucks does not make it a universal truth. 
"I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."  -Groucho Marx

Dan M

Other people's opinions of a movie only matter if they influence whether you see the movie or not.  After you've seen a movie, who cares if anyone else liked it?

As people I'm friendly with, I'm disappointed for those of you who didn't get a good Indy movie this summer. 

Be happy for me, though; I did get one.

Geekyfanboy

Quote from: pickard on June 21, 2008, 06:33:24 AM

As people I'm friendly with, I'm disappointed for those of you who didn't get a good Indy movie this summer. 

Be happy for me, though; I did get one.

:) Same here..

Bryancd

Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on June 21, 2008, 06:05:40 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on June 20, 2008, 08:45:36 AM
I couldn't disagree more. I have no problem "letting go" and just enjoying the movie, but this movie wasn't good. Period. My buddy I saw it with felt the same way. If it's not good, it's not good. I don't see why people feel compelled to accept that just because we got a fourth movie made we need to just shut up and be thankful. I'm glad you all enjoyed it but I don't think that the many that didn't are simply unwilling to let go, I think they are simply calling a spade a spade.

Besides, I have read what I consider some exceedingly generous reviews of movies around here under the guise of "it's a good popcorn flick" or "it's a good summer movie" blah, blah, blah. Sometimes movies just suck and it's ok!    :dry
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Quote from: Bryancd on June 20, 2008, 09:31:20 AM
No, that's all cool, I just think to assume that someone doesn't like something because of other peoples views or that they can't let go or it's the fourth movie, ect. is presumptuous. Personally I think it's ok to not like a movie not because you have some deep seeded predisposition against it but just because it's just plain not good in the viewers opinion.
I'm really responding to what Jorby said.

My post was not in any way directed at you, Bryan.  I sure am sorry you took it so personally.  It was a general opinion about the negative response this movie has gotten since its release.  Maybe it's presumptuous, but it's what I believe.  But since you made this personal, in my mind your over the top reaction to my general post confirms that I am right and you need help relaxing and letting go!  Your opinion about things is not gospel.  Just because you thought something sucks does not make it a universal truth. 

I'm not mad at you, Jorby, I just don't think it's fair to categorize the many people who didn't like Indy as drinking the critical cool aid, so to speak. The movie had problems. If a viewer was able to look beyond them and enjoy the experience, great. And just as you feel that people are influenced into not liking this movie because of what others are saying, I made the reciprocal argument that some people who liked would have liked 2 hours of watching Indy's hat collect dust. ;)
We're both generalizing two sides of that coin. :)

Yeoman Mara

I liked this Indy too.  Harrison is still very good looking for his age (yumm)!  I don't try to know what others think.  Hard enough to come up with my own thoughts at times.  But for me it was a thrill to see Indy in the theater and not on just my TV!
A redhead with a lightsaber is a dangerous combination!

Meds

Quote from: Yeoman Mara on June 21, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
I liked this Indy too.  Harrison is still very good looking for his age (yumm)!  I don't try to know what others think.  Hard enough to come up with my own thoughts at times.  But for me it was a thrill to see Indy in the theater and not on just my TV!

oh yeah regardless of its faults its a must see Cinema film

Geekyfanboy

 Indiana Jones Top $700 Million Worldwide
Source: Paramount Pictures, Lucasfilm Ltd.
June 30, 2008


Paramount Pictures and Lucasfilm Ltd.'s Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, directed by Steven Spielberg, produced by Frank Marshall and executive produced by George Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy, crossed the $300 million mark domestically yesterday -- and topped $400 million overseas last Friday. With a cumulative gross of more than $713 million to date it is the highest grossing worldwide release of 2008.

"Indy" gave Paramount's distribution arm its second $300 million plus release for summer 2008, joining Marvel Entertainment's Iron Man, which has grossed more than $309 million so far domestically (and almost $250 million overseas). Paramount becomes the first studio in movie history to release two back-to-back $300 million plus grossing films two years in a row. In 2007, two consecutive Paramount releases, DreamWorks Animation's Shrek the Third and DreamWorks/Paramount's Transformers, both surpassed $300 million domestically.

Rico

That's a lot of money.  I bet we get another one.

Ktrek

That is a LOT of mulah! However, I would prefer that they let the franchise lie in peace. KOTCS was not a very good film and to tell you the truth I doubt they can actually do better. It's best to leave it before they really do more harm and damage to the franchise IMHO. Let the dead bury the dead.

Kevin
"Oh...Well, Who am I to argue with me?" Dr. Bashir - Visionary - Deep Space Nine

Geekyfanboy

Well the 700 Million dollars box office shows that the majority of movie goers enjoyed KOTCS enough to see it a few times. If Steven, George and Harrison can come up with another script they all like.. will see another one of these. And I for one would love to see another one.

Geoff G.o.B

I'm with Ktrek on this one. Couldn't wait to go and see it at the cinema and was very disappointed in the whole thing, not to mention watching scenes "borrowed" from the first "Mummy" film. The film offered nothing new to the story arc, some of the scenes were preposterous (fridge) and the characters (other than Indy) had no depth at all.

I rank this film worse than Temple of Doom and I hated that one straight off as well.

I do wonder whether its our own expectations that make a film poor sometimes. Afterall if a franchise comes back after a long break do our "rose coloured spectacles" get in the way, or is it just too hard to follow up a good thing?
If you can remain calm when all around you are panicking, you probably didn't understand the question

Rico

I'm with Kenny.  I won't go into the likes or dislikes once again.  I do feel that if they have a script the three main makers of these movies like we will see one more go.  They might even feel like they want to really go wild and top themselves.  Recall how "Attack of the Clones" was generally better than "Phantom Menace" after a long lapse between "Star Wars" films.  I think it is quite possible another Indy movie could be great!

Bryancd

I didn't like the majority of the movie BUT I would go see another one if they made it. I believe that Spielberg and Lucas know what worked and what didn't and would take a different approach if they make another one. I have been reading and really loving "The Complete Making of Indiana Jones" and even Lucas acknowledges that "Temple of Doom" was darker than he intended (he was divorcing his wife Marsha at the time) but he came bake with a much better effort with "Last Crusade".
As I said in my review, "Crystal Skull" started off great but got lost on the way. Keep the story simple, keep the action fun without being too comical, and bring back the sense of fun, and they could really give the fans what they deserve.

Rico

Glad to hear you are hopeful about another film Bryan.  I just hope if they do one that it's not just a passing of the torch to Indy's son now that we know he has a kid.

Bryancd

Quote from: Rico on July 01, 2008, 05:24:37 AM
Glad to hear you are hopeful about another film Bryan.  I just hope if they do one that it's not just a passing of the torch to Indy's son now that we know he has a kid.

Agreed, Harrison still has a never round left in him. :)