Michigan State Riots

MSUFan · April 07, 2008, 03:32:31 PM

Soo this is where I go to school...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBEgjqylroE

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080407/NEWS01/804070343&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Sorry should say the video is NSFW due to language.

Bryancd · April 07, 2008, 04:05:00 PM

Dude, you Dad isn't going to like this being on the forums.....

MSUFan · April 07, 2008, 04:08:10 PM

Quote from: Bryancd on April 07, 2008, 04:05:00 PM
Dude, you Dad isn't going to like this being on the forums.....

LOL He already said our riot was nothing since it was only about 5,000 people.. And besides I wasn't involved since I may make stupid decisions, but I am not a stupid person.

Geekyfanboy · April 07, 2008, 04:09:01 PM

Wow.. that's pretty sad.. I don't mind folks partying, but when they start to destroy property (ie street signs) then it goes to far.

Bryancd · April 07, 2008, 04:16:25 PM

LOL! Oh, I know it's has nothing to do with you and it really is sad. It is so interesting how things have changed from my parents time, to my and your Dad's time, and now in terms of what we consider to be outrageous behavior. When I was in college in Boston in the late '80's, getting drunk and rowdy, sure, but we didn't have the violence. We also didn't have the girl exhibitionist elements. I wonder what is says about us as a culture that in order to have fun it requires such extremes?

Rico · April 07, 2008, 04:16:51 PM

No problem with this being posted. A few idiots (and many not even from MSU) don't mean everyone there is also an idiot. The smart people didn't even go - like my son! ;)

Jen · April 07, 2008, 04:41:45 PM

Bryan the 60's were all about riots and exhibitionists. I know that and I wasn't even alive back then. :D

It's the herd mentality, half of those people have no idea what's going on... there just there to because everyone else is.. and to be seen with everyone else. Pretty stupid for "smart people".

Bryancd · April 07, 2008, 04:45:54 PM

Quote from: Jen on April 07, 2008, 04:41:45 PM
Bryan the 60's were all about riots and exhibitionists. I know that and I wasn't even alive back then. :D

It's the herd mentality, half of those people have no idea what's going on... there just there to because everyone else is.. and to be seen with everyone else. Pretty stupid for "smart people".

For sure, but the context was totally different. Exhibitionism, in the hippies and flower child types (my Mom was one) were about expression and love. The protest and occasional rights revolved around Vietnam and Civil Rights. It wasn't violence for violence sake. You see behavior like this following sporting events as well, events around a celebration which turn ugly. That didn't happen back in in '60's or '70's, which I do remember.

Rico · April 07, 2008, 04:46:40 PM

Actually Bryan, towards the end of my time at Michigan State there was plenty of pretty crazy parties like this. This was when this particular annual party really got started. Culture kind of circles in waves. I don't think it's any better or worse than in my day there. One issue I constantly say to people is due to the internet we just hear about things a lot more than ever before. But I truly don't think things are any worse. And in some ways I think things are better. But it's always just up to the individual. You decide for yourself what type of person you will be. Are you going to be a lemming and jump off a cliff or act stupid just because everyone else is? I'm pretty sure (and hope) the two sons my wife and I raised know better at least. And for me, that's the most important thing.

Jen · April 07, 2008, 05:02:44 PM

I'm with Rico. My mom was a hippy too and they didn't do everything for "love". She never did anything like that but there were stupid people back then too. Stupid people do stupider things when they're drunk or high or out for attention and it doesn't matter what era your from.

Rico · April 07, 2008, 05:05:52 PM

Yep. But they just didn't have a video camera, the internet and Youtube to share it immediately with the world! LOL!

Bryancd · April 07, 2008, 05:12:10 PM

Certainly we will all have different personal experiences. I never saw any of this in Boston, I never knew anyone who went to a school where they had a riot with police showing up with tear gas. It's not an indictment of Michigan (Go Blue!)I just don't agree that things are the "same" now, for many of the reasons you mention Rico. It's all over our popular culture, the internet, it's hard to say that things are the same. It's a good debate however and I'm glad you left this up.

Geekyfanboy · April 07, 2008, 05:16:07 PM

I agree with Bryan.. I feel things are worse now then when I was a kid. Case in point, the high school I went to had very few problems, a few vandals and some drug busts. Now they have metal detectors, and closed campus and I head last year there was a huge gang battle and many many drug busts.

Times are changing, but you are right Rico we hear about it more and more these days.

Bryancd · April 07, 2008, 05:24:47 PM

Quote from: Rico on April 07, 2008, 05:05:52 PM
Yep. But they just didn't have a video camera, the internet and Youtube to share it immediately with the world! LOL!

x2, that's for sure and I don't think it's a good thing. My younger brother, 18, and sister, 16, have seen things online that I would NEVER have seen at the same age growing up. How can that not have a huge impact?

MSUFan · April 07, 2008, 05:29:52 PM

This is my gripe is that there are few bad apples (about 100) that were ready to sit out in the middle of Cedar Street until the Police started firing the tear gas. These are the kids that wear getting tear gassed, thrown in jail, arrested, as badges of honor. It is really sad because Cedar Fest at the beginning of the night from about 7-11 was just an enjoyable time. Kids were having fun, drinking, cooking burgers, just enjoying themselves. Then the alcohol started to sink in a little bit, and the kids who wanted the tear gas started to get that liquid confidence and all of a sudden we have a full on riot on hand.

Michigan State is always and will always be known as a party school for the riots that occurred in 01,05 etc. Which in fact less that 5% of the student population participated and only 50% of the arrests were in fact MSU students.