Alien

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

Chill dude

Chill?  I'm not angry.

he means a 5th ALIEN film, not AVP, we consider them 2 different franchises.

AVP is an Alien movie, so how can they be two different franchises?

Thanks Bryan... yes there is an Alien franchise (which they made four movies), there is a Predator franchise (which they made two movies) and then they combined the two and made an Alien Vs Predator franchise.. three different entities.

I just don't see AVP as being a separate entity when it is clearly in the same continuity as Alien and Predator.  As far as I am concerned, there are only two series: five Alien movies and three Predator movies with AVP serving as Alien 5 and Predator 3.  I respect your opinion that AVP is a separate movie, I just disagree with it.

[Geekyfanboy]

I repspect your opinion as well CJLP but even the Entertainment Industry consider them three different franchise. I pulled this from an Alien Vs. Predator forums site.

Alien 5 is still in the "rumoured" phase and what with AvP2 coming out in 2007, we won't see Alien 5 for a good few years if at all. The three main people who will no doubt be involved in Alien 5, Signourney Weaver, Ridley Scott and James Cameron have all said they want to do Alien 5. The problem is that Fox doesn't want to do it and are too busy with the AvP franchise.

edit.. got this with Wiki

Rumored sequels
It has been rumored for years that there will be an Alien 5. James Cameron, the maker of Aliens, started work on a story for Alien 5, but when he heard of Aliens vs. Predator, he thought that the crossover would "kill the validity of the franchise" and stopped work on his script.[1] As of 2007 there are no plans for a 5th Alien film.

[Bryancd]

I certainly agree with Cameron that AVP has damaged the ALIEN franchise and wish they could go back to those first 2 films and move the story either forward or better yet, backward!

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

The studio is welcome to consider them separate, but my reasoning is this... Alien vs. Predator features the Aliens throughout the movie and Charles "Bishop" Weyland (co-founder of Weyland-Yutani) as a main character.  As far as I am concerned, it is an Alien movie.  Until there is a fifth Alien movie featuring the Aliens exclusively, I'll be continue to see AVP as Alien 5. :)

[Geekyfanboy]

Will just agree to disagree... :)

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

Assuming there is a new Alien movie that doesn't feature Predators, do you think it'll pick up where Resurrection left off with Sigourney Weaver returning as the Ripley clone?  I've heard that before AVP came along, Alien 5 was going to be made by James Cameron and Ridley Scott with the return of Sigourney Weaver as "Ellen Ripley."  I also read that it might have ignored 3 & 4 and be a sequel to Aliens.  Is there any truth to this?

[Bryancd]

Like I said above, my hope would be to either go back and restart the series following ALIENS or due a prequel but without Sigourney. I'd prefer the former. I don't foresee Ridley Scott working with James Cameron, it wil be one or the other. If Ridley were to get the deal, he should pick up where ALIEN left off and show Ripley somehow getting into trouble again. :)


For all you ALIEN fans, check out this thread over at the RPF for the ULTIMATE ALIEN collectible!  :jawdrop

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=24521&highlight=passenger

[Bryancd]

I just caught the last 30min of AVP on TV last night and was reminded what a hulking, steaming pile of poo that movie is! The script is terrible, the actors wooden, the suspense non-existant, and the effect are fair. They ruined BOTH franchises in one fell swoop, impressive!

[Rico]

Bryan - that full size alien is freaking awesome looking!

I do wish we could see some more individual alien or predator movies sometime.  Bring on the alien home world!

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

I just caught the last 30min of AVP on TV last night and was reminded what a hulking, steaming pile of poo that movie is!

I thought the last half hour was great.  :biggrin The underlined, bold comment was unecessary... I just ate. :ohmy

The script is terrible, the actors wooden, the suspense non-existant, and the effect are fair.

I will agree, the acting is kind'a poor.  There were only five or so decent actors in the movie. :blink As for the script... it was entertaning.  The suspence was fantastic aside from a few predictible moments.  The special effects were fantastic!  The ending of the movie reminded me of the ending of The X Files with Mulder and Scully in Antarctica.  Great stuff.

They ruined BOTH franchises in one fell swoop, impressive!

I disagree.  Alien vs. Predator may have some bad acting and dialogue, but it's otherwise a good crossover movie. :)