Podcast # 438 - Starfleet Ships

[moyer777]

I would use one of those shuttle craft now Vartok!  Really Cool!

[jedijeff]

That is a cool Shuttle craft, I would have loved one when I was a kid, actually I think I still would like one :)

[M-5]

That's very cool, Vartok!  i would have loved one of those as a kid.

[Redshirt97]

I just listend to the podcat the other day.  Great podcast guys, not sure which ship is my favorite but I guess I'm partial to the shuttle craft shown in TOS. I think I remember putting together a model of the Galileo when I was a kid in the 70's. 

[Praxis]

Had a great time listening to this, and when you guys were talking about the Vengeance's speed, you said that if it was 3 times as fast, it would travel Warp 24. But the warp scale is exponential, so using this http://www.anycalculator.com/warpcalculator.htm warp calculator:

Warp 8=1024 x the speed of light (c)
Warp 9=1516.38 x the speed of light
Warp 9.5=2548.24 x the speed of light
Warp 9.63= 3098 x the speed of light

So the Vengeance's top speeds are about Warp 9.63, using the TNG era warp scale. Not crazy, but more in line with the ships in TNG, not TOS. That's pretty geeky, sorry.

And isn't it correct that under the tng scale, warp 10 would technically be infinite speed? Meaning the ship would be in every point of the universe at the same instant?
And if that is the case, that voyager episode with warp 10 wouldn't make much sense.....

[ChrisMC]

Had a great time listening to this, and when you guys were talking about the Vengeance's speed, you said that if it was 3 times as fast, it would travel Warp 24. But the warp scale is exponential, so using this http://www.anycalculator.com/warpcalculator.htm warp calculator:

Warp 8=1024 x the speed of light (c)
Warp 9=1516.38 x the speed of light
Warp 9.5=2548.24 x the speed of light
Warp 9.63= 3098 x the speed of light

So the Vengeance's top speeds are about Warp 9.63, using the TNG era warp scale. Not crazy, but more in line with the ships in TNG, not TOS. That's pretty geeky, sorry.

And isn't it correct that under the tng scale, warp 10 would technically be infinite speed? Meaning the ship would be in every point of the universe at the same instant?
And if that is the case, that voyager episode with warp 10 wouldn't make much sense.....

Yeah, that was always silly to me. Yes, Warp 10 is infinite speed...on that scale. Isn't that what happened in Where No One Has Gone Before?

[Ensign Random]

I'm behind on my listening but I just got to the Ships podcast. Loved it!!! Now you have to do another one on weapons, or space stations, or other tech. :)

Vartok- that is really incredible! I want to build one for my daughter now. Currently, she had a little space ship made of a cardboard box, but I'm thinking I she gets older I should upgrade to something better.

[Bromptonboy]

Great cast guys, thanks!  I just caught up on this one today (I am behind!).

[Feathers]

So am I! I'm so looking forward to this but haven't got there yet :(

[moyer777]

Thanks!  You will enjoy it Mike!!!

[Praxis]

Had a great time listening to this, and when you guys were talking about the Vengeance's speed, you said that if it was 3 times as fast, it would travel Warp 24. But the warp scale is exponential, so using this http://www.anycalculator.com/warpcalculator.htm warp calculator:

Warp 8=1024 x the speed of light (c)
Warp 9=1516.38 x the speed of light
Warp 9.5=2548.24 x the speed of light
Warp 9.63= 3098 x the speed of light

So the Vengeance's top speeds are about Warp 9.63, using the TNG era warp scale. Not crazy, but more in line with the ships in TNG, not TOS. That's pretty geeky, sorry.

And isn't it correct that under the tng scale, warp 10 would technically be infinite speed? Meaning the ship would be in every point of the universe at the same instant?
And if that is the case, that voyager episode with warp 10 wouldn't make much sense.....

Yeah, that was always silly to me. Yes, Warp 10 is infinite speed...on that scale. Isn't that what happened in Where No One Has Gone Before?

Oh was it? I forgot about that, it's been a forever since I watched that episode. 'It's been a long time.....'

[ChrisMC]

From the breakdown at Memory Alpha...

As the ship accelerates, both Kosinski and his assistant enter various information. Suddenly a console alarm goes off and Kosinski shouts at the assistant, who has made an error. Outside the ship, the Enterprise's engines suddenly engage with a massive burst of speed. The assistant grabs his console and starts to "phase" in and out of view, noticed only by Wesley.

On the bridge, La Forge tells the captain they are passing warp 10, and Data later says that their velocity is off the scale. The Enterprise hurtles through space, with phenomena whizzing past at extremely high speed. Picard orders that they reverse engines (which Data comments on as having never been done at their current speed), and the Enterprise flashes out of warp. When asked for the ship's position, La Forge replies incredulously that they have traveled 2,700,000 light years.

They are now in the M-33 Galaxy, and at maximum warp it will take them over 300 years to get home. Kosinski, Riker and Argyle arrive on the bridge. Picard asks them what happened and Kosinski replies that he made "a mistake, a wonderful mistake". He is highly excited, claiming he has broken the warp barrier and that his name will go down in history. However, hearing the procedure that Kosinski used, Commander Riker isn't convinced.

[Praxis]

Lols, passing warp 10.
I should watch that one again. Now that I've finally finished Enterprise, might be time to put TNG back in rotation

[Feathers]

Thanks!  You will enjoy it Mike!!!

...and indeed I did. Thanks.

[billybob476]

If you guys ever want to branch off and do a Star Wars ships cast I'd be happy to participate.