Stargate: Universe - possible spoilers

Rico · October 24, 2009, 05:18:09 AM

Greatly enjoyed the most recent episode. Big improvements in the right direction. I'm hooked now! Read on,...

[spoiler]As I had guessed, the ship was simply powering itself back up by heading into the star. Makes perfect sense to me. I mean why would it set a course that way? I am wondering if Rush suspected it. I liked how we got to see the various characters sort of face their own Kobayashi Maru tests. The episode really worked for me and seemed very logical. And it finally brought people together (by the end of the episode). Nothing like facing death together to bring people closer.[/spoiler]

moyer777 · October 24, 2009, 09:16:25 AM

I really enjoyed this episode as well. It has started to get better. I really liked the special effects and graphics on this one as well.
[spoiler]Did you notice that on a Stargate show, the Stargate was never used on this episode. hehehe. The ship was so cool with it's solar receptacles. Great episode! Next week HOTH! :luke [/spoiler]

ElfManDan · October 24, 2009, 02:02:40 PM

I enjoyed this last episode. Although a little predicable the character and their reactions in the situation were what made the episode. I find myself really liking Greer as a character, and I'm starting to like Rush. Over the past few episode I just haven't been able to like Scott. Seems like he supposed to be kind of the like Sheppard in the first season of Atlantis, but I just don't like him (unlike my obvious love of Sheppard from right off the bat).

Serenity · October 24, 2009, 04:35:50 PM

I was surprised to see Scott and Chloe together! I guess the whole "end of the world" scenario had something to do with that. Chloe and Eli had a lot of screen time together last episode and I thought they were heading in that direction. Destiny is a pretty cool ship, can't wait to see what else it can do.

Ktrek · October 24, 2009, 09:04:41 PM

I had this episode figured out within the first ten minutes but it was better than the first four episodes. It would have been more interesting though if...

[spoiler]the producers had enough guts to have actually used that scenario to downsize the cast and left the 15 behind. Yea...it would have meant some peoples favorite characters were lost to the series but it would have made the episode less predictable and give the sense that anything can happen on the show. Now the sense of real danger is lost because we know that somehow, someway, they will find a way through some ingenuity to survive or the artifical intelligence of the ship will do what is necessary for their survival.

The ending was a little contrived also where they want you to think that maybe Rush knew all along. The moral implications if he did are interesting but the writers just love throwing more suspicion on him. Thus you kind of know already that it's misdirection by the writers. Kind of like those lame mysteries where the guy who is the least likely to have committed the murder is the one you have to suspect most, because 99% of the time it turns out to be him no matter how hard the writer tried to misdirect your suspicions to someone else. So is he good or is he bad? I seriously doubt he's bad.
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Kevin

Feathers · October 27, 2009, 03:00:09 AM

Now I know this is odd but I'm starting to seriously begrudge the three to four day time difference we have between these shows across the pond.

With something like Heroes where we have to wait until next year to see it, I can read all the posts as I know I'll have forgotten by the time we watch. With something like SGU now, it's on tonight so I really shouldn't be looking here as my memory's not bad enough to make sure I forget everything in twelve hours.

Hang on, I'm almost arguing for a longer wait for US TV! The alternative is better self discipline on my part...

Feathers · October 28, 2009, 02:00:29 PM

Having seen it now, I'm not convinced Rush 'knew' anything but I think there's a good chance he suspected something like what played out. His relief was fairly visible and while he may not have been completely surprised he wasn't completely blasé about it either.

The sudden warmth towards him dis take him completely off guard and i'm not wholly sure he appreciated it. Still, it provided a little more light and acceptance around a character that has been very dark and rejected up until now. A good change for the sake of the show I think.

Looking forward to the next few episode. We have air n power now so it must be time for food and water? I wonder if that could lead to conflict with someone and we still have the strange shuttle to wonder about.

ori-STUDFARM · October 28, 2009, 03:04:16 PM

Quote from: Feathers on October 27, 2009, 03:00:09 AM
Now I know this is odd but I'm starting to seriously begrudge the three to four day time difference we have between these shows across the pond.

With something like Heroes where we have to wait until next year to see it, I can read all the posts as I know I'll have forgotten by the time we watch. With something like SGU now, it's on tonight so I really shouldn't be looking here as my memory's not bad enough to make sure I forget everything in twelve hours.

Hang on, I'm almost arguing for a longer wait for US TV! The alternative is better self discipline on my part...

I am usually a glutton for spoilers....surprisingly, I am managing to avoid this thread until after I've watched the episode......so far, that is! LOL

Rico · October 28, 2009, 03:37:19 PM

Well, some people have been trying to put the more "spoilerish" stuff inside a spoiler tag. I'll mark the whole thread too now.

Feathers · November 04, 2009, 02:48:06 AM

Weeeell, I had to say this but I'm not so sure about 'Water'. A shame as I was becoming a Universe fan.

This was an episode I found myself having a conversation or two in the middle of - always a sign that something is losing my interest.

[spoiler]We had an alien presence on the Destiny for the first time and an interesting one too, in one way.

Stargate has always tended towards aliens you can shoot, but this was something else. I guess they reminded me a little of the energy beings SG-1 found on a moon orbiting a gas giant back in season 4 but they were clearly different. The problem I had was as this was something a lot less physical than we're used to, I found it hard to see them as a real threat. I know they were drinking the water but dying of thirst is a lot less immediate than a staff blast to the head and that took a lot of the urgency away from the episode for me.

My other problem is that while they've found a resolution to the alien problem, they didn't really get anywhere with the water issues they were having. The ice they recovered will not keep them going on full rations for too long. (Of course there may well be other water tanks on the ship that are stuffed full that they simply haven't found yet) I hope water problems make a return later on.

Question. Were the bugs the same creatures that helped Scott find whatever he was looking for in Air? What did the face at the end mean?
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ori-STUDFARM · November 04, 2009, 12:17:54 PM

^In answer to the above^

[spoiler]I think the face was just to show an intelligence. And yes, I think it was implyed, though not spelled outright, that they were the same from the desert planet.[/spoiler]

I am loving this show, but am getting impatient for them to get on with it. I'm after an adventure now. Starting to tire of the "next disaster".

Next 3 episodes are to be called "Food" "Lip balm" and "Tiddlywinks"
I am joking of course :). Once the adventure begins, my impatience will be forgotten. (I think I was naturally born more Sith than Jedi in the patience department!)

X · November 04, 2009, 03:19:03 PM

Quote from: Feathers on November 04, 2009, 02:48:06 AM
Weeeell, I had to say this but I'm not so sure about 'Water'. A shame as I was becoming a Universe fan.

This was an episode I found myself having a conversation or two in the middle of - always a sign that something is losing my interest.

[spoiler]We had an alien presence on the Destiny for the first time and an interesting one too, in one way.

Stargate has always tended towards aliens you can shoot, but this was something else. I guess they reminded me a little of the energy beings SG-1 found on a moon orbiting a gas giant back in season 4 but they were clearly different. The problem I had was as this was something a lot less physical than we're used to, I found it hard to see them as a real threat. I know they were drinking the water but dying of thirst is a lot less immediate than a staff blast to the head and that took a lot of the urgency away from the episode for me.

My other problem is that while they've found a resolution to the alien problem, they didn't really get anywhere with the water issues they were having. The ice they recovered will not keep them going on full rations for too long. (Of course there may well be other water tanks on the ship that are stuffed full that they simply haven't found yet) I hope water problems make a return later on.

Question. Were the bugs the same creatures that helped Scott find whatever he was looking for in Air? What did the face at the end mean?
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[spoiler] In a way, they did solve the water issue. They still have enough water to survive a few weeks now that it isn't being stolen by the alien dust mites. As for the creatures, I would say that they are the same and that they might have drank their own planet dry. I also think that they had some means of water manipulation to wake up Scott when he was in the desert.

I'm really enjoying the building process that they are going through with this. While it would be nice to have the ship up and running in the first few episodes, it wouldn't make that much sense. They have a lot to learn about this massive ship and they still haven't explored a fraction of the ship. I would have loved for them to have a jumper or two, but I think the new space buses work for the series as well.

I can't wait to see what happens next.[/spoiler]

Rico · November 04, 2009, 03:21:32 PM

I still find the pace a bit slow going. Might be more believable but a show really needs to hit the ground running these days. Perhaps at some point we will get a blurb saying, "one month later" and they will have things on the ship under better control. That would work for me.

Ktrek · November 04, 2009, 06:40:37 PM

The episode Water was much like the rest...not very exciting and much too predictable. When Scott falls through the ice my wife says sarcastically..."yea! Like we didn't see THAT coming!". The scenarios is much like the ENT episode Minefields in some ways with the the commanding officer and the his subordinate in a situation where the the commanding officer has to save him. Nothing new! The sand bugs, or whatever they were, are not much interest here either. Early on I said to my wife if they are responsible for the water shortage why not bait them with water? Duh! Like who could see that coming? And the whole time the Colonel is trying to save Scott why the hell didn't he use the platform? If this is good entertainment I hate to see what is bad! Ugh!

Kevin

Rico · November 05, 2009, 04:28:20 AM

You sound pretty upset by this series. Sounds like the show still isn't for you Kevin.