Pirates III - slight spoilers

[Geekyfanboy]

Is anyone seeing this movie this coming weekend? I might try and see it next week sometime. I was told to say until after the credits.. there is a surprise at the end.

[Jen]

I just saw it last night. I think I liked it better than Pirates II. It was filled with action and suspense, and I thought the story was a little more in depth than the last movie. It was darker, dirtier, and surprisingly more violent than the last two. I'm not a squeamish person... I wasn't freaked out by the violence in Gladiator, but some of the implied violence at the beginning of this film was disturbing.  There a lot of small kids in the theater last nightâ€"I don't think I would take a child under 12 to see this. There were a lot of kids that were 3 and up...some of them were crying. Its rated PG-13 for a reason...probably should be rated R at certain times.

It is still very funny at times. Davey Jone's Locker was interestingly surreal.

I was very shocked by something that happened near the end. I did not read any spoilers before I watched this movie so I wasn't expecting the twist.

Sit through the credits for a teaser at the end. Its very short, and not exactly revealing. Its fairly predictable but its a good lead in for the next film.

I loved Elizabeth's costume towards the end of the film...I have to make one of those. Anyway, I think the film was great...just don't take a little kid to see it.

[jedijeff]

I agree that this was better then the Second Pirates movie. My brother and wife also felt the same way. It was a really long movie, and at times I wondered why it needed to be so long.

I think it helped having Captain Barbossa helped, as I really liked him in the first, and liked him again in this as kind of a good guy. Davy Jones locker was different for sure, and not what I was expecting. I was wishing for more of Chow Yun-Fats character as well. I found the character of Lord Beckett to not be a very good convincing villain. The Hangings at the start of the movie seemed a bit over the top to me for a movie parents might take their kids to.

I was not expecting what happend at the end of the movie as well, really caught me off guard. I think I will be good setup for another movie. I was happy that Kenny had mentioned about staying for the end credits, as the final scene was important for the next movie. Most of the theatre had cleared, so only a handful had stayed for it.

Overall it was enjoyable, could have been better, but on the whole a decent movie. Still like the First Pirates movie the best.

[Jen]

I agree Chow Yun-Fat's time in the movie was brief. I think his character was only there to give Elizabeth her new "station". Like Darth Mal, he was an interesting villain who's time on screen was short.

Yeah, Captain Barbossa is my favorite character. Though he's definitely not the undead meany that he was in the first movie, I wouldn't call him a "good guy" per say. Like Jack, he dances a fine line between good and bad. That's a pirate for ya. I think underneath it all, they're both good, but mostly they're only good when it suits their purposes. They spend a lot of their time looking out for number one and its a rare occasion when they do something nice for someone else.

The few occasions where Jack sacrificed on his own accord, and not because he was forced to do it, was when he rescued of Elizabeth in the first movie and his return to the peril in the second after he abandoned his friends to the Cracken. Remember their slogan is "Take what you can and give nothing back".

An interesting topic for debate. Are they "good guys"? Underneath it all I think they are. They just don't like that part of themselves to show too much.

Did anyone else notice the symbolism in this film?

[Rico]

I saw part 3 today and really liked it.  Much better than part 2 I thought.  The characters/actors were good and the plot was more coherent and solid I thought.  I think part 2 went a bit overboard but this one really seemed to pull it all together with some surprises as well.  Plus the movie has some very cool action and adventure.  There are definitely moments where Jack is doing some things for others and the greater good in this one.  I almost hope they end the series at this point on a high note and not drag it out with lesser movies.  My only slight weakness would be the bad British guys as the main villain.  He just didn't seem threatening enough.  Overall, a real fun time at the movies though.  Yo, ho, ho.....      :metallica:

P.S.  I agree with Jen, these movies are rated PG-13 for a reason.  Not really meant for little kids.

[Jen]

I saw part 3 today and really liked it.  Much better than part 2 I thought.  The characters/actors were good and the plot was more coherent and solid I thought.  I think part 2 went a bit overboard but this one really seemed to pull it all together with some surprises as well.  Plus the movie has some very cool action and adventure.  There are definitely moments where Jack is doing some things for others and the greater good in this one.  I almost hope they end the series at this point on a high note and not drag it out with lesser movies.  My only slight weakness would be the bad British guys as the main villain.  He just didn't seem threatening enough.  Overall, a real fun time at the movies though.  Yo, ho, ho.....      :metallica:

P.S.  I agree with Jen, these movies are rated PG-13 for a reason.  Not really meant for little kids.

I don't know, I thought the guy from the East India Trading Company was more cunning and cruel than the former villains. The huge lines of men women and children at the gallows was fairly threatening...and don't forget he had a certain "devil" by the huevos.

[Rico]

Well the hangings at the start were nasty, but that part of the movie seemed to be kind of removed from the rest.  I guess I just like the bad guys to be larger than life - like Barbossa was and Davy Jones in the other movies.

[SebastianProoth]

SPOILERS WITHIN

Yesterday I went over to the theatre and went to the film I have been waiting to see since I heard it was coming. At World's End. I was so damned excited about the film, I have been talking about it for about a month. Boy was I in for a dissapointment. I wrote a review and posted it on my blos, but I thought I would post it here as well so you guys don't haveto actually go to the blog to see it. If you have seen the movie, you will understand my review more than if you have not. Let me hear your thoughts! -Sebastian.

So here it is:

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End left me more than stone cold…it left me, shall I say, stone-crab cold?

The film opens with a scene that, in my opinion does not belong in a film with a 12 rating. The villain in this film is hardly defined in the plot and the decision of who the true villain’s identity is left very much to the viewer’s discretion. If you choose the character of Cutler Beckett as the main bad guy I would have to say he has less fear inducing power than a blind guy with an unloaded gun.

As I watched the film I found myself predicting what was going to happen next and usually I was right. I was excited at so few points in the film, I can point them out in my memory which is somewhat of a whirlwind…or should I say, whirlpool at this point. The scene where it is discovered that someone among them who belongs to neither side and the humor that accompanies it comes early in the film and remains one of the high points throughout.

Depp’s character, Jack Sparrow is on his best form as a bumbling idiot in this, the latest and in my opinion worst installment of the Pirates franchise. As a film producer myself I can comment on the scale of the film and how obvious the blue screen on the ships is. When Keira Knightley’s character is promoted to King of the Pirate Brethren I realised that the writers of this film really had run out of ideas when wrote the last film.

The usual super display of CGI effects from Industrial Light and Magic including the stunning “Davey Jones” character will not disappoint the film viewer who is only interested in the graphics budget however the film lacks the substance of Pirates of the Caribbean I and the soul of Pirates of the Caribbean II. All in all, it is unlikely that there will be a Pirates of the Caribbean IV, at least, not one that I will jumping up and down to see.

Although you see Jack Sparrow on his own in a tiny boat at the end of the film, you can’t help but wonder if they have set it up for a sequel or if they are proclaiming that, as the first Pirates film began with Jack alone on a tiny (sinking) boat it is only fitting that the last should end with him in the same position.

[Rico]

I'll fold this review into the ongoing Pirates 3 thread...

[Jen]

SPOILERS WITHIN

Yesterday I went over to the theatre and went to the film I have been waiting to see since I heard it was coming. At World's End. I was so damned excited about the film, I have been talking about it for about a month. Boy was I in for a dissapointment. I wrote a review and posted it on my blos, but I thought I would post it here as well so you guys don't haveto actually go to the blog to see it. If you have seen the movie, you will understand my review more than if you have not. Let me hear your thoughts! -Sebastian.

So here it is:

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End left me more than stone cold…it left me, shall I say, stone-crab cold?

The film opens with a scene that, in my opinion does not belong in a film with a 12 rating. The villain in this film is hardly defined in the plot and the decision of who the true villain’s identity is left very much to the viewer’s discretion. If you choose the character of Cutler Beckett as the main bad guy I would have to say he has less fear inducing power than a blind guy with an unloaded gun.

As I watched the film I found myself predicting what was going to happen next and usually I was right. I was excited at so few points in the film, I can point them out in my memory which is somewhat of a whirlwind…or should I say, whirlpool at this point. The scene where it is discovered that someone among them who belongs to neither side and the humor that accompanies it comes early in the film and remains one of the high points throughout.

Depp’s character, Jack Sparrow is on his best form as a bumbling idiot in this, the latest and in my opinion worst installment of the Pirates franchise. As a film producer myself I can comment on the scale of the film and how obvious the blue screen on the ships is. When Keira Knightley’s character is promoted to King of the Pirate Brethren I realised that the writers of this film really had run out of ideas when wrote the last film.

The usual super display of CGI effects from Industrial Light and Magic including the stunning “Davey Jones” character will not disappoint the film viewer who is only interested in the graphics budget however the film lacks the substance of Pirates of the Caribbean I and the soul of Pirates of the Caribbean II. All in all, it is unlikely that there will be a Pirates of the Caribbean IV, at least, not one that I will jumping up and down to see.

Although you see Jack Sparrow on his own in a tiny boat at the end of the film, you can’t help but wonder if they have set it up for a sequel or if they are proclaiming that, as the first Pirates film began with Jack alone on a tiny (sinking) boat it is only fitting that the last should end with him in the same position.

Hi Sebastian. Before I begin disagreeing with almost everything you said,  let me first say that I respect your opinion.  :)

First off, to the untrained eye the ships looked fine.  ;)

Maybe its because I'm a chick, but I rather liked seeing Elizabeth in charge instead of being rescued all the time. Aside from that, I felt her position as the pirate king tied into the first film, where as a little girl she dreamed of life as a pirate. In "At World's End",  I saw her complete evolution from damsel to hero and I enjoyed every minute of it. Her ascension to the throne may have felt rushed, but it was easy for me to over look.


You're right about the beginning of the film, I also felt it was disjointed. I think it was only added to add menace to Lord Becket's character. To me, it was clear from the start who the bad guy was and I actually found myself feeling bad for Davy Jones. I admit, Beckett isn't my favorite villain in all of movie history, but to me he was most certainly the bad guy in this film.

Yes, Cutler Beckett was a weeny. I don't believe the man lifted his sword onceâ€"he delegated evil deeds to his minions and that made me hate him all the more. His influence and power were the only thing that kept others from ripping him apart. But you know, the majority of evil leaders in the real world are the same way.

The "fear" was left to Davy Jones to instill in others. Sort of like the relationship between Darth Vader and the Emperor. We never saw Palpatine lift a finger until Return of The Jedi. Before he tried to fry Luke,  the Emperor was just some ugly old cuss who told Vader what to do.

I guess you can tell I liked this movie. I paid to have fun, and I did. It isn't, in my opinion, the worst in the franchise. I thought it rivaled the first film.

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

I saw this movie tonight, but  didn't enjoy it.  Too much action, too little drama.  :blink

[Ktrek]

Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it CJLP! I have not seen it yet but I plan to beofre it leaves the theater. I just have to find some time.

Kevin

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

If you enjoyed Dead Man's Chest, you ought to enjoy At World's End.  :biggrin A big part of why I didn't like the movie is that it rehashed the first two.  It didn't really do anything new. :blink

[Ktrek]

If you enjoyed Dead Man's Chest, you ought to enjoy At World's End.  :biggrin A big part of why I didn't like the movie is that it rehashed the first two.  It didn't really do anything new. :blink

I'm not sure what your expectations were going into the movie but Jen's post above seems to argue for a fun film.

Kevin

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard]

I read Jen's posts, but they articulate why I didn't like the movie.  The movie was too long in that a lot of scenes felt like filler, they didn't move the story along.  I don't mind 3-hour movies, but this could have easilly been 2 hours.  I also found there to be far too much action and too little drama.  I found Jack Sparrow to be very annoying in this movie where as he had been quite funny in the previous two movies.  Unfortunately, At World's End is mostly special effects.  Too much flash, too little substance.

One movie was enough.  :)