The Amazing Spider-Man 2

Rico · February 04, 2014, 03:27:54 AM

Quote from: ChrisMC on February 03, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
Man. I don't want to see more. I feel like I can piece the story together now. Looks amazing of course.

I feel the same way. Looks like a fun time!

Rico · March 08, 2014, 09:22:52 AM

New featurette...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSdJwrGkjM#ws

Rico · March 19, 2014, 06:22:17 PM

Final trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWLtKYUv6E0#ws

Rico · April 27, 2014, 03:36:07 PM

Next weekend - you and me Spidey!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EevDdkPM4Yc#ws

Rico · May 03, 2014, 02:16:11 PM

Saw "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" today and enjoyed it a lot. Good story, acting and again great chemistry between the main two actors. No spoilers here please (unless you put it in a spoiler box), but go see this one soon so we can chat about it more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLVRgCoCF4#ws

Rico · May 03, 2014, 03:02:26 PM

Got this nifty cup today too!

Jobydrone · May 06, 2014, 12:47:09 PM

I too loved this movie! It's getting a bad rap from the reviewers in my opinion, I was shocked when I read some of the pre-release reviews. I know most of you guys' feelings on reviews, but I still like to read them.

Some spoilery comments:

[spoiler]Man I was really disappointed with the ending. Gwen's death is arguably the most iconic moment in comics history. I don't think the film came close to doing it justice. First off, the writers totally chickened out by not having Spidey's webbing break Gwen's neck like in the comics. Perhaps it was easier and more shocking visually to have her hit the ground as she did, and I still see Peter blaming himself even though it was clearly not his fault, but I think it would have been a bolder choice character-wise to remain true to the comic story and have Spidey's web snap her neck. Secondly, Peter's reaction to her death was to give up being Spidey for a few months, which was over in the space of two minutes screen time, then have a nice chat with Aunt May, and return to fight Rhino at the very end of the flick (which we don't even get to see darn it!), was utterly devoid of the emotion and gravitas we should have been feeling and seeing from the tragedy of Gwen's death. With all they did to develop their relationship over the first two films, I feel cheated and really let down by how they handled her death in this film. If I may be so bold to suggest what would have been better...have her die in the last two minutes, have that highly emotional scene of Peter holding her in his arms we saw in the film, and then end on a major cliffhanger with that totally iconic pose from Amazing Spiderman 121 of Peter holding Gwen in one arm with his other fist raised in the air screaming at the Goblin.[/spoiler]
All that said, I still loved hte movie. I was laughing, on the edge of my seat the whole time, my kids loved it and didn't even get up to go to the bathroom the whole time.

WillEagle · May 12, 2014, 12:10:10 PM

I thought this was a very good movie but I will say that I liked the first one better. And the showing I saw had a little clip during the credits which was for another movie which I thought was very cool, but somebody told me that it got pulled from future showings. Is that true??
Now some thought on the movie...
[spoiler]I liked the fact that he didn't stay away from Gwen even though he tried because they were really good together. I knew what was going to happen to Gwen but my wife didn't so she didn't like that part very much. And Joby are sure her neck didn't break? And I really liked the ending after the being depressed part when the Rhino showed up. When that little kid walked out I thought that was awesome!! Great scene! Loved what Spidey said to him. And then when they ended it like they did I thought at first 'bummer, I wanted to see him put the hurt on Rhino.' But the more I thought about it, it was a cool way to say Spiderman is back! I saw this movie on Sunday May 4 and the clip was on the X-Men Days of Future Past from 20th Century Fox! I loved the clip showing some characters that must be showing up in the new film. One example is Toad! Looking forward to this in a couple of weeks![/spoiler]
Go see this if you have a chance and if your scared of heights like I am you will loooove the parts when he jumps off the buildings and its shot from above him. Awesome! Not! I grabbed onto my chair when he did that!

Jobydrone · May 12, 2014, 01:15:14 PM

Quote from: WillEagle on May 12, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
I thought this was a very good movie but I will say that I liked the first one better. And the showing I saw had a little clip during the credits which was for another movie which I thought was very cool, but somebody told me that it got pulled from future showings. Is that true??
Now some thought on the movie...
[spoiler]I liked the fact that he didn't stay away from Gwen even though he tried because they were really good together. I knew what was going to happen to Gwen but my wife didn't so she didn't like that part very much. And Joby are sure her neck didn't break? And I really liked the ending after the being depressed part when the Rhino showed up. When that little kid walked out I thought that was awesome!! Great scene! Loved what Spidey said to him. And then when they ended it like they did I thought at first 'bummer, I wanted to see him put the hurt on Rhino.' But the more I thought about it, it was a cool way to say Spiderman is back! I saw this movie on Sunday May 4 and the clip was on the X-Men Days of Future Past from 20th Century Fox! I loved the clip showing some characters that must be showing up in the new film. One example is Toad! Looking forward to this in a couple of weeks![/spoiler]
Go see this if you have a chance and if your scared of heights like I am you will loooove the parts when he jumps off the buildings and its shot from above him. Awesome! Not! I grabbed onto my chair when he did that!

@will: [spoiler]Well at first I thought she clearly hit the ground because it sounded like a "thump", but I've since read some stuff saying the intent was that she did break her neck, so I don't know. I'll reserve judgement until I see it again. I still didn't like how quickly he seemed to recover from her death, but that might be a misinterpretation on my part. We shall see, I still loved the movie![/spoiler]

Rico · May 12, 2014, 02:11:35 PM

My impressions...

[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]

Praxis · May 12, 2014, 07:39:09 PM

I saw it! :)
The first half hour or so was kinda "meh" but then it got pretty damn awesome. I really enjoyed it. Great acting by all. And that one actor made for an amazing goblin. I like 2 slightly better than 1.

ChrisMC · May 13, 2014, 08:05:21 AM

Yeah I agree. The build up was kinda just ok, but the fights and the ending were very well done. I still get a big kick out of seeing Spidey on the big screen.

Jobydrone · May 13, 2014, 11:11:37 AM

Quote from: Rico on May 12, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
My impressions...

[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]

To answer Rico's question: [spoiler] I thought I explained myself pretty clearly, but my initial interpretation of the scene was that Peter did not catch her in time, and while the webline did snag her before she hit the ground, it did not go taut until after she hit. What I saw, was her death resulting from the impact of her fall and not the fact that her neck broke due to the sudden whiplash of the web stopping her. To me this is a huge difference in the way her death would affect Peter...in the comics, for so long he blamed himself for her death because of the fact that his webbing broke her neck. This is a recurring theme in Spider-Man comics and a defining element of the charatcer: even as the omniscient reader sees Spidey for what he really is, a hero, Peter blames himself for the actions of others...Uncle Ben's death because he didn't stop the robber, and Gwen's death because he stopped her fall incorrectly. I feel like this movie doesn't even touch this extremely important facet of Peter's personality. First by eliminating the fact that he broke her neck with the web, and then second by devoting about four-five minutes screen time (much of it montage) to his recovery from the shock of her death, ultimately leading up to his decision to go back to being Spidey. I just feel the whole sequence got a short shrift, in a plotline wholly deserving of an entire film considering the iconic nature of the story and how critically important is to the character of Spider-Man. All that said, I need to see it again because as much as I know the history of the character, I was not expecting Gwen to die in this film. So the whole sequence took me by surprise...quite an accomplishemnt considering how versed I am in the whole story.[/spoiler]

Rico · May 13, 2014, 02:16:57 PM

I don't really agree Joby...

[spoiler]First, I really thought by the way it looked when I saw the film that poor Gwen's neck snapped first - even if she partially hit the ground too or not. But, here is the real thing. Peter still blames himself - completely in the movie as in the comic. The whole movie he is trying to push her away thinking something bad will happen to her and of course due to the promise he made to her father in the first film. And she dies because he couldn't save her. Whether it's due to the web or the ground - she still dies because he is Spider-Man and couldn't save her. This sends him into a spiral and depression in the film and he quits being Spider-Man for a time. Again - he feels extreme guilt and can't handle something bad happening to anyone else. Of course, he pulls himself out of it because that is the essence of who Peter is. Crap keeps happening to him over and over and he keeps on going. And that's why he is my favorite superhero and has been for over 35 years since I started reading the comics.[/spoiler]

ChrisMC · May 13, 2014, 05:11:49 PM

Quote from: Jobydrone on May 13, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: Rico on May 12, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
My impressions...

[spoiler]When I saw it, it seemed to me Gwen's neck snapped from the web catching her - just like in the comics (which is why he had to lower her down a bit more in the film). And Peter took awhile to recover from her death. He went without being Spider-Man for awhile so I'm not sure what you mean Joby. The ending seemed very much like the comics to me and made sense.[/spoiler]
To answer Rico's question: [spoiler] I thought I explained myself pretty clearly, but my initial interpretation of the scene was that Peter did not catch her in time, and while the webline did snag her before she hit the ground, it did not go taut until after she hit. What I saw, was her death resulting from the impact of her fall and not the fact that her neck broke due to the sudden whiplash of the web stopping her. To me this is a huge difference in the way her death would affect Peter...in the comics, for so long he blamed himself for her death because of the fact that his webbing broke her neck. This is a recurring theme in Spider-Man comics and a defining element of the charatcer: even as the omniscient reader sees Spidey for what he really is, a hero, Peter blames himself for the actions of others...Uncle Ben's death because he didn't stop the robber, and Gwen's death because he stopped her fall incorrectly. I feel like this movie doesn't even touch this extremely important facet of Peter's personality. First by eliminating the fact that he broke her neck with the web, and then second by devoting about four-five minutes screen time (much of it montage) to his recovery from the shock of her death, ultimately leading up to his decision to go back to being Spidey. I just feel the whole sequence got a short shrift, in a plotline wholly deserving of an entire film considering the iconic nature of the story and how critically important is to the character of Spider-Man. All that said, I need to see it again because as much as I know the history of the character, I was not expecting Gwen to die in this film. So the whole sequence took me by surprise...quite an accomplishemnt considering how versed I am in the whole story.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Rico on May 13, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
I don't really agree Joby...

[spoiler]First, I really thought by the way it looked when I saw the film that poor Gwen's neck snapped first - even if she partially hit the ground too or not. But, here is the real thing. Peter still blames himself - completely in the movie as in the comic. The whole movie he is trying to push her away thinking something bad will happen to her and of course due to the promise he made to her father in the first film. And she dies because he couldn't save her. Whether it's due to the web or the ground - she still dies because he is Spider-Man and couldn't save her. This sends him into a spiral and depression in the film and he quits being Spider-Man for a time. Again - he feels extreme guilt and can't handle something bad happening to anyone else. Of course, he pulls himself out of it because that is the essence of who Peter is. Crap keeps happening to him over and over and he keeps on going. And that's why he is my favorite superhero and has been for over 35 years since I started reading the comics.[/spoiler]

Rico is correct, I saw it again today playing a bit of hooky and [spoiler]the webbing stops her just short of the ground and there is a sound to punch up the fact that he neck breaks.[/spoiler] I DO agree that the emotional impact could have been a bit greater though.