Apple's WWDC - 2012

billybob476 · June 22, 2012, 10:25:46 AM

Quote from: Bryancd on June 22, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
You all can bite me, Apple rules!!! :)

You're lucky you run faster then most of us :)

QuadShot · June 22, 2012, 10:33:47 AM

Quote from: billybob476 on June 22, 2012, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on June 22, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
You all can bite me, Apple rules!!! :)

You're lucky you run faster then most of us :)

That's WHY he's a runner!! :) Gee Bryan, maybe I should take up running too? I mean...I LOVE Apple too, in fact, I have an alter in my back yard with an Apple on top. :) Yesh...I need help. That's NEVER been a question!

KingIsaacLinksr · June 22, 2012, 11:51:18 AM

I'd like to point out that I'm not hating on Apple. I can show you examples of people hating on Apple and...it isn't pretty. The venom for Apple...is stunning even to me that people get that worked up over a company. You'd think that Apple stole their kid or something, it truly concerns me in that regard.

That said, Apple isn't perfect and I'm merely commentating/debating over what they could be doing to fix the flaws in how the company works. I hope it doesn't come off as attacking you Al because I have no place to attack anyone who buys apple products when I'm typing this message on an iPad. ;) And I don't want to attack anyone who buys technology from any company. It's not my concern in life what people buy for technology.

Anyway.

King

QuadShot · June 22, 2012, 12:01:52 PM

Tim...no worries. I over reacted, which is all too common for me these days. It's because I AM addicted to...Apple. I know that now. I have a problem and I plan on seeking help. I've made an appointment with the Betty Ford Clinic but not sure if I'm actually going to check myself in. They're requiring me to leave my iPad at home. Don't think I can do that. I LOVE my Apple products and some day, yes, SOME DAY, with luck our society will change the way they view Apple and accept our love... :)
Ok, on to seriousness - I do apologize for going off the deep end. I do have some personal issues I'm dealing with and I do allow that to fuel my rants all too often. I'm glad no one takes me too seriously. And yes King, I will admit that Apple has their...issues. :)

KingIsaacLinksr · June 22, 2012, 12:19:01 PM

Well, we definitely know that Apple has their issues, I mean, they still haven't fixed that bite someone took out of the logo. Fix it already!!

:P

yes well, We all need our rants.

:)

King

Dangelus · June 22, 2012, 02:07:29 PM

The point I was trying to make is that this thread was a civilised thread discussing business practices in relation to iOS 6.

If we are going to accept comments like "Don't like it, don't buy it" are relevant and move the discussion forward then I'd say that "Don't like it, don't read it" is just as valid a comment to make.

Sigh.

Rico · June 22, 2012, 03:02:01 PM

Good points by all. I'm actually one of the weird one's that wants both MS/Windows stuff and Apple stuff. To me it's all pretty darn cool and each has things it excels at vs. the other. In fact, I'm pretty tempted by that new MacBook Pro right now. I'd probably do it if it was a few hundred cheaper.

QuadShot · June 22, 2012, 03:04:46 PM

Quote from: Dangelus on June 22, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
The point I was trying to make is that this thread was a civilised thread discussing business practices in relation to iOS 6.

If we are going to accept comments like "Don't like it, don't buy it" are relevant and move the discussion forward then I'd say that "Don't like it, don't read it" is just as valid a comment to make.

Sigh.

So then, if I'm not a "productive member", I shouldn't post?

Bryancd · June 22, 2012, 03:43:29 PM

Quote from: QuadShot on June 22, 2012, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: Dangelus on June 22, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
The point I was trying to make is that this thread was a civilised thread discussing business practices in relation to iOS 6.

If we are going to accept comments like "Don't like it, don't buy it" are relevant and move the discussion forward then I'd say that "Don't like it, don't read it" is just as valid a comment to make.

Sigh.
So then, if I'm not a "productive member", I shouldn't post?

Would you stop arguing with Dan and go see Prometheus alread?! :)

Dangelus · June 23, 2012, 01:16:29 AM

Quote from: QuadShot on June 22, 2012, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: Dangelus on June 22, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
The point I was trying to make is that this thread was a civilised thread discussing business practices in relation to iOS 6.

If we are going to accept comments like "Don't like it, don't buy it" are relevant and move the discussion forward then I'd say that "Don't like it, don't read it" is just as valid a comment to make.

Sigh.
So then, if I'm not a "productive member", I shouldn't post?

Never said you weren't a productive member, you are a valued member and contributor to this community and my comments here are not personal.

Your comment didn't express any opinion on the subject of the discussion other than to say you're not interested in discussing the subject so I it felt redundant and just served to take the conversation off topic.

Dangelus · June 23, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

Quote from: Rico on June 22, 2012, 03:02:01 PM
Good points by all. I'm actually one of the weird one's that wants both MS/Windows stuff and Apple stuff. To me it's all pretty darn cool and each has things it excels at vs. the other. In fact, I'm pretty tempted by that new MacBook Pro right now. I'd probably do it if it was a few hundred cheaper.

That's pretty much my philosophy. I run Windows, Apple and Linux all happily together here! :)

I've never understood all the brand loyalty stuff was it comes to tech. I suppose if your a consumer you just just get used to things but it's the techy people who only stick to one thing I don't get. The only exception would be the hardcore Open Source guys who don't use MS or Apple out of freedom principles.

Jobydrone · June 23, 2012, 10:27:19 PM

Quote from: Dangelus on June 23, 2012, 01:22:34 AM

I've never understood all the brand loyalty stuff was it comes to tech. I suppose if your a consumer you just just get used to things but it's the techy people who only stick to one thing I don't get. The only exception would be the hardcore Open Source guys who don't use MS or Apple out of freedom principles.

well I think it's pretty clear that the companies really want their consumers to have the kind of brand loyalty that you're talking about and its a huge part of their marketing strategy to facilitate it whenever they can. Its not unusual to see that quite often the desired effect of all that brainwashing sometimes occurs. Also, as we've discussed before, people sometimes get pretty defensive about the big purchases they make and feel like when someone bashes their product then they feel like they are being slighted on a personal level. Silly but sometimes true.

Also I believe that many people buy Apple and keep buying Apple because of how much synergy there is between all their products, how beautifully iMacs work with iTunes and iPads and iPhones and Apple TV and I'm sure the new Apple Television as well when it hits. I look at the new Windows Surface and drool but when I wonder how I'll be able to use it with my iMac...and realize they've had their hooks in me for a while now.

Bryancd · June 24, 2012, 04:49:12 AM

Quote from: Jobydrone on June 23, 2012, 10:27:19 PM

Also I believe that many people buy Apple and keep buying Apple because of how much synergy there is between all their products, how beautifully iMacs work with iTunes and iPads and iPhones and Apple TV and I'm sure the new Apple Television as well when it hits. I look at the new Windows Surface and drool but when I wonder how I'll be able to use it with my iMac...and realize they've had their hooks in me for a while now.

This. Apple makes it so easy for the vast majority of consumers who only have a modicum of tech proficiency to "make it all work right". I find that their greatest value to be honest. I don;t have the the or inclination to have to work to my my technology work for me. Apple has solved for that.

Dangelus · June 24, 2012, 09:23:36 AM

Quote from: Bryancd on June 24, 2012, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on June 23, 2012, 10:27:19 PM

Also I believe that many people buy Apple and keep buying Apple because of how much synergy there is between all their products, how beautifully iMacs work with iTunes and iPads and iPhones and Apple TV and I'm sure the new Apple Television as well when it hits. I look at the new Windows Surface and drool but when I wonder how I'll be able to use it with my iMac...and realize they've had their hooks in me for a while now.

This. Apple makes it so easy for the vast majority of consumers who only have a modicum of tech proficiency to "make it all work right". I find that their greatest value to be honest. I don;t have the the or inclination to have to work to my my technology work for me. Apple has solved for that.

Totally agree Apple have it 100% correct on the ecosystem. None of the others have the synergy of products or devices.

You do have to sacrifice a bit of flexibility but if you're happy in their world and want everything to work together perfectly, don't want to have to do any configuration or customisation and you have the cash then Apple is the way to go.

KingIsaacLinksr · August 06, 2012, 09:45:13 PM

So Apple is removing YouTube app from iOS 6. This combined with the removal of Google Maps means we only got GSearch and Gmail as the only Google integration on iOS.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/06/youtube-app-ios-6-buh-bye/?grcc=33333Z98ZtrendingZ0Z0Z0Z0Z0&grcc2=cd2d30be792662c5910ce60f209f7215~1344314653052~fca4fa8af1286d8a77f26033fdeed202~9f0e86c130c4b16ac3c6f04f6f31e12b~1344304417384~98~0~0~0~0~0~0~0~9~3~

This upgrade is really starting to look like a major downgrade to me.