Amazon's Kindle Fire Tablet

Started by Rico, September 21, 2011, 03:20:51 PM

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Rico

Kindle Fire sales are already burning up.
Amazon took a whopping 95,000 pre-orders for its new Kindle Fire tablet in its first day on sale, according to a digital marketing firm.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/03/amazon-opens-fire-sells-nearly-100000-tablets-in-one-day/#ixzz1ZjdqprWB

Feathers

Quote from: billybob476 on September 30, 2011, 08:04:12 AM
Interestingly, I just noticed that for "international" orders (including Canada) we can only order the ad-free Kindle for 109 dollars. No option for the Kindle with special offers.

Glad to see you're discriminated against just as much as we are ;)

I suspect they've only set the whole Ads thing up in the States and I doubt US advertisers will pay to see devices in the UK and Canada. It's the lack of the touch devices I regret more.

I know it's unnusual here but I don't have a podcast of my own.

Rico

Preorders are now up to 250,000 for the Fire.  The first iPad sold 300K on it's first day of release.  Just saying.  :)

http://www.tgdaily.com/consumer-electronics-brief/58898-report-kindle-fire-pre-orders-reach-250k

Bryancd

Quote from: Rico on October 06, 2011, 08:40:33 AM
Preorders are now up to 250,000 for the Fire.  The first iPad sold 300K on it's first day of release.  Just saying.  :)

http://www.tgdaily.com/consumer-electronics-brief/58898-report-kindle-fire-pre-orders-reach-250k

Not an apt comparrison due to price point differential, just saying. :)

Rico

Bryan - you have like Apple radar!  LOL!

And of course there is a price difference.  That's the whole point of what I have been saying all along.  Price these days is crazy important - more than ever.  They want people to get hooked into the Amazon-eco system.  Just as Apple has done with iTunes and their devices.  Anyway, I'm just happy that someone is coming out with a tablet that more people can afford.

X

Quote from: Bryancd on October 06, 2011, 08:47:55 AM
Quote from: Rico on October 06, 2011, 08:40:33 AM
Preorders are now up to 250,000 for the Fire.  The first iPad sold 300K on it's first day of release.  Just saying.  :)

http://www.tgdaily.com/consumer-electronics-brief/58898-report-kindle-fire-pre-orders-reach-250k

Not an apt comparrison due to price point differential, just saying. :)
That doesn't makes sense. There's a huge price differential between PC and Apple laptops as well. If both are tablets, then the comparison is pretty valid. We can't ignore numbers because of price points.

Rico

Agreed Chris.  The key is, each one sold no matter the price (just like the with the iPad & iTunes), puts one more customer into Amazon's pocket.  That can't be underestimated. 

Bryancd

Hehehehe! That's going to be the Fire's biggest challenge is creating an environment which can compete with what Apple's created. Long story short is they can't BUT they don't really  intend to. They realize the "lifestyle" ecosystem Aple has created through thier OS, iTunes, retail stores, Ap content , and Mac is too big for anyone to overcome at the present. And the draw of that experince will drive iPad business and compel many to pay up for it even if they are borderline being able to afford it. What Amazon envisions is driving their retail business at the end of the day. The Amazon store in your pocket where hoping on and making a purchase is super easy and convenient, encouraging impulse buying. Their video and entertainment offers are just icing ont he cake for that model.

QuadShot

I agree with Bryan. If you have two products, one sells for $100, the other for $50, and if they are claimed to be comparable, then it would be safe to forecast that the less expensive unit would sell many more. If Apple sold more units than Fire, even though there's a large price difference, I think that says a lot about the Apple tablet. I seriously doubt the fire will be nearly as good as the iPad. Just saying.

X

Quote from: QuadShot on October 06, 2011, 09:15:41 AM
I agree with Bryan. If you have two products, one sells for $100, the other for $50, and if they are claimed to be comparable, then it would be safe to forecast that the less expensive unit would sell many more. If Apple sold more units than Fire, even though there's a large price difference, I think that says a lot about the Apple tablet. I seriously doubt the fire will be nearly as good as the iPad. Just saying.
It depends on how you define good. In the case of Apple, most of their products are magnitudes more expensive than other products with better specs. Fire doesn't release for a while and I'm pretty sure that it's going be a dominate player. They are already the dominate player in ebook readers and they are leveraging the Kindle name to get more people in the door. When you consider that the price point is half that of the original Kindle, there are going to be tons of sales to the upgrade crowds. I have a strong feeling that Kindle will do quite well for itself in the coming months.

Bryancd

Also keep in mind that success of a product isn't simply volume. It's margin and how profitable it is the the company. Look at Dell and Compaq who went mass market with the PC business. Sure they sell and sold a bazzillion PC's but in the case of Dell, they are just a generic widget maker. Amazon will loose money on every Fire sold in an effort to get as many people to buy one and make up the loss hopefully with online sales at Amazon.com. They won't be providing the same experience as Apple does with the iPad. Fire is a retail portal device. I'm not knocking it, I think it's great and I own Amazon stock, but I am qualifying it and putting the device in it's proper context.

Bryancd

Quote from: X on October 06, 2011, 09:34:49 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on October 06, 2011, 09:15:41 AM
I agree with Bryan. If you have two products, one sells for $100, the other for $50, and if they are claimed to be comparable, then it would be safe to forecast that the less expensive unit would sell many more. If Apple sold more units than Fire, even though there's a large price difference, I think that says a lot about the Apple tablet. I seriously doubt the fire will be nearly as good as the iPad. Just saying.
It depends on how you define good. In the case of Apple, most of their products are magnitudes more expensive than other products with better specs. Fire doesn't release for a while and I'm pretty sure that it's going be a dominate player. They are already the dominate player in ebook readers and they are leveraging the Kindle name to get more people in the door. When you consider that the price point is half that of the original Kindle, there are going to be tons of sales to the upgrade crowds. I have a strong feeling that Kindle will do quite well for itself in the coming months.

I keep trying to tell you guys, the VAST majority of the portable technology purchasing market don't buy based on spec, they buy based on the experience, ease of use, integration with thier current products.

psikeyhackr

Only 8 gig of storage and no SD Card slot.

No cameras, no accelerometer.

The best thing about the Fire is bringing down the price of the HTC Flyer.

HTC Flyer Full Review
HTC Flyer Full Review

At $500 it was nothing to write home about but at $300 it stomps the Fire out.

psik
Andre Norton does it better than J.K.Rowling

Jobydrone

I agree that by far the best thing so far about the Fire is the effect it is having on the tablet marketplace.  Those non-apple tabs need to be cheaper for sure.
"I'm not crazy about reality, but it's still the only place to get a decent meal."  -Groucho Marx

X

Quote from: Bryancd on October 06, 2011, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: X on October 06, 2011, 09:34:49 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on October 06, 2011, 09:15:41 AM
I agree with Bryan. If you have two products, one sells for $100, the other for $50, and if they are claimed to be comparable, then it would be safe to forecast that the less expensive unit would sell many more. If Apple sold more units than Fire, even though there's a large price difference, I think that says a lot about the Apple tablet. I seriously doubt the fire will be nearly as good as the iPad. Just saying.
It depends on how you define good. In the case of Apple, most of their products are magnitudes more expensive than other products with better specs. Fire doesn't release for a while and I'm pretty sure that it's going be a dominate player. They are already the dominate player in ebook readers and they are leveraging the Kindle name to get more people in the door. When you consider that the price point is half that of the original Kindle, there are going to be tons of sales to the upgrade crowds. I have a strong feeling that Kindle will do quite well for itself in the coming months.

I keep trying to tell you guys, the VAST majority of the portable technology purchasing market don't buy based on spec, they buy based on the experience, ease of use, integration with thier current products.
Okay, but what are you saying? It's a Kindle, it has all of that going for it at a lower price.