Ohhhhh this makes me want to see season three even more.. can't wait for this show to return.
Looking good, and with a three hour season premiere? I don't thin I've ever seen that done before.
Uh....whoa! That looked great. THREE hours!!! I cannot wait until Sept/Oct.
I'm not even going to press play on the above videos purely because we have just started season 2 here in England and so far i am loving it so i don't want to see anything that may ruin season 2.
umm 3hrs? I sure hope that's split across a couple of days personally. No need to put it all on one night unless they are doing it just to say they were the first.
nope.. as of now it's three hours in a row.. 8pm to 11pm... three hours of Heroes goodness.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on May 12, 2008, 04:32:20 PM
nope.. as of now it's three hours in a row.. 8pm to 11pm... three hours of Heroes goodness.
Thank the Gods for Tivio!
...So Say We All....
so say we all! :cylon
I can't wait. I guess I should watch the final episode of Season 2 already.
I thought season 2 was cut short by the writers strike... did they finish it?
There is no way it can be worse than season 2.
Quote from: wraith1701 on May 13, 2008, 11:50:51 AM
I thought season 2 was cut short by the writers strike... did they finish it?
Yes season two was cut short but they retooled the last episode to be a second season finale.
Quote from: The IC on May 15, 2008, 12:52:19 PM
There is no way it can be worse than season 2.
I don't think season two was bad... it had some AWESOME episodes. I think the strike really hurt it as it was cut to less then half of the episodes they had planned. Heroes is the kind of series that builds over time and then you get payoffs towards the end of the season.. they built up stuff but then had to rush to give some pay offs before the strike. I think season three is going to rock.. bare any actor strikes. :)
Looking good! Here's another little preview....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ur-iKnIzgk
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/06/26/heroes-will-go-deep-next-season/#more-9914 (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/06/26/heroes-will-go-deep-next-season/#more-9914)
Heroes will go deep next season
Posted by Michael Hickerson on Thursday, 26 Jun 2008
With the third season of Heroes currently in production, creator and producer Tim Kring is dropping a few hints about what fans can expect this fall.
"You're going to see a lot of bad guys in this one," Kring said. "The idea, also, is we're playing off the idea of our characters as heroes or villains. So it's really the duality of good and evil. ... We're playing off of this duality of good and evil. All of our characters were given these powers and possess these powers, and at some point it becomes sort of free will and human nature as to what you're going to do with that. And all of us are given the choice to make decisions that lead us down very dark paths or towards heroic ends. And so, literally, every one of our characters gets faced with that dilemma."
Kring told SciFi Wire that the third season of the show will delve further into the characters and their backgrounds.
"One of the things that this volume is going to do that, I think, is really going to be fun for the audience is that there were very initial sort of primal questions that the show asked," Kring said. "Who am I? What's happening to me? How am I connected? Where are these powers coming from? All of those questions get reframed and turned on their head in a very interesting way in this volume."
The third season will be divided up into volumes in keeping with other seasons. The first volume will focus on the villains of Heroes, including popular bad-guy Sylar.
"Well, we have no plans of saying goodbye to Sylar right now," Kring assured fans. "I mean, that was yet another silver lining for the strike, was Zach Quinto's availability to us in the third volume. I mean, that was a huge thing for us to be able to have him back. As you guys know, he would have disappeared for a large chunk of the second half of season two. And so, for us, it was a big, big deal."
The third season of Heroes hits NBC on September 22.
Still waiting for season 2 finale over here...just one more week to go (although how they tie this lot up in short order, I don't know)!
Check this out...very, very cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ijPE5S4VQ
wow.. got chills
This next season should be very very interesting. I'm quite excited to see it. :)
Me = love heroes
King
:jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :cheers
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
WHOA.....I can't wait to see this.....no strikes this season hopefully?!?!?!?!?
Heroes Spoilers Ahead!
NBC has released descriptions of the first two hours of the upcoming third season of Heroes, which returns Sept. 22 at 9 p.m. ET/PT, while SCI FI Wire has screened the first hour and can offer a few major spoilers of our own.
(Stop reading if you don't want to be spoiled!)
In "The Second Coming," the first hour of the third season, "Villains," a key villain from the past suddenly reappears, future versions of Claire and Peter are revealed, a key character dies and two previously non-superpowered characters unexpectedly develop powers. Viewers also learn what Sylar really does with those brains. And the fate of the world rests on a mysterious piece of paper. As for the episode's title? Look up William Butler Yeats.
Here's NBC's description of "The Second Coming": "The first chapter of Volume 3: Villains kicks off moments after shots rang out, as the shocking identity of Nathan's (Adrian Pasdar) assassin and the reasons why the Texas press conference had to be cut short are revealed--immediately throwing Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Matt (Greg Grunberg) into unexpected, uncharted territory.
"With his powers partially restored, Sylar (Zachary Quinto) decides a visit to Claire (Hayden Panettiere) could give him a boost. Meanwhile, in Tokyo, Hiro (Masi Oka) and Ando (James Kyson Lee) are charged with safeguarding a family secret that could split the planet apart and discover that the path to a grim future starts with shady speedster, Daphne (guest star Brea Grant).
"In New York City, thanks to Maya (Dania Ramirez), Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) makes a startling breakthrough that could change the world--or just destroy his. And who is Tracy Strauss?"
Here's NBC's description of the second hour, "The Butterfly Effect." "In the shocking second chapter of Volume 3: Villains, Angela Petrelli (Cristine Rose) confronts her much-changed son, Peter, as the bursts of violence around them only hint to the catastrophes to come.
"First, Sylar declares war on the Company by attacking their main facility and finds even more than he bargained for on Level 5. During a devastating battle with Elle (guest star Kristen Bell), a dozen savage criminals--all with terrible abilities--escape. Meanwhile, Claire discovers something new and unexpected about her abilities.
"Determined to reclaim his family's terrible secret, Hiro and Ando track Daphne to Paris. After a fateful night, Suresh is thrilled to find his research, his life and his relationship with Maya evolving in leaps and bounds.
"Stuck in unfamiliar territory, Matt finds a guide (guest star Ntare Mwine) to help him." (NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) --Patrick Lee, News Editor
These cool posters have been showing up all around town on bus stop.. NBC just released all the photos..
More
And More
Final One
Awesome posters....17 more days!! Can't wait!
Quote from: Darth Gaos on September 05, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
Awesome posters....17 more days!! Can't wait!
I hope we don't have to wait too long for this over here. We tend to get the American shows a couple of weeks later. Arrrgghhh! The tension.
Looking great those are amazing pictures. Great post Kenny
Actor Zachary Quinto and producer Tim Kring were interviewed by Sci Fi Wire, promising answers this season. "I think, actually, by the end of third hour of the show you'll have kind of most of those [answers]," Kring said. "I mean, one of the goals of this season -- because we'll have been off the air for nine months -- we didn't want to drag a lot of story behind us, and we didn't want to feel like you had to have watched two years of this show to catch up. So we wanted to answer things really quickly so that you could move forward on this volume and have a kind of clean path in front of you. So there really are not a lot of lingering questions that you carry with you from before. The goal for us from now on with these volumes is to try to answer literally 95 percent of the questions that are posed in the beginning of the volume ... by the end of the volume. This particular volume, 'Villains,' is 13 episodes long."
NBC has released six quick scenes from the premiere episode of season three of Heroes.. you can check them out here.. can't wait for next Monday.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18075
I am absolutely exhausted after those 2 hours. That was more then I expected. Loved everyone - Nathan, Hiro, Nikki, Suresh, Peter, Claire, Noah. WOW !!
I was just about to ask if anyone saw last nights episodes... it was AMAZING
So many things happened I don't even know where to start...
Future Peter trying to kill his brother and takes over for present Peter sending Matt to Africa and present Peter into a body of another person... Claire and Sylar, and then Sylar putting Claire's scalp back on to heal.. didn't expect that. Mama Petrelli has a power of dreaming the future.. that's pretty cool.. and she's continue to be on the line between bad and good.. and SHE IS SYLAR's Mama... which means Sylar is Peter and Nathan's brother... amazing stuff.. Monhinder injecting himself and having spiderman type abilities.. of course until he wakes up and have things growing out of his back.. can't wait to see what he turns into. So much stuff happened and it's only the first two episodes.. Oh and I almost forgot.. Niki/Jessica/Tracy.. so are they triplites?? Loved the Ice woman. Can't wait for next weeks.
My head is still spinning from all of it. One thing that just didn't sit right with me was Sylar being Nathan and Peter's brother. I mean pretty soon everyone on this show will be related to each other. But it was a great two hours of TV! This season is off to an amazing start!
So, how did everyone like GAH quick little cameo in this episode ? Shouldn't have lost the instruction book Ralphie !!
I have no idea what to think about Nikki - I had a hard time getting past all that makeup !! :D
I don't think that was Niki.. they made it sound like this Tracy had been with the governor for a while. I thnk it's another sister..
For a minute when GAH turned to ice and broke apart they stayed on the melting ice for a while. Could he be a Frozone and he fooled her? :dry
I thought it was pretty good season opener. I must admit I really like Tracy, I think she is going to be an interesting character to watch throughout the season. She certainly seemed like a woman of power and confidence. I think I like her more then the Nikki character, I guess we will be finding out what happened to Nikki soon, as they never touched on it is the season opener.
The superfast girl looks like will be a lot of fun, with her and Hiro going against each other.
The villains who escaped from level 5 seem very evil. I like that HRG is going after them should make for a great season for that story.
I must admit, that Maya is very attractive, I never really noticed it much last season, but between the preview show and the season opener, I was like wow.
It was a crazy opener! WOW! We just sat there kind of stunned by the eye candy of it all.
It is set up for a pretty amazing season!
This doesn't sound good...
'Heroes' Teeters With Series Low In Premiere
By MICHAEL HINMAN
Source: Zap2it
Sep-23-2008
It was the beginning of a new chapter, both literally and figuratively, but audiences don't seem ready to give "Heroes" a second chance just yet.
The season premiere of the one-time NBC juggernaut scored a 6.1 rating/9 share in its first hour, but dropped to a 5.6/9 in its second hour, according to Fast National ratings from Nielsen Media Research. The second hour marked a series low in overnight ratings which never before had dipped below the 6.0 rating mark.
Last year, "Heroes" averaged a 6.6/10, but the show already is well off its mark. A countdown show in the 8 p.m. hour finished at the same level as "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" on Fox, which isn't saying too much since that show also has struggled out of the gate.
Speaking of "Sarah Connor," that show finished with a 3.8/6, up about 8.6 percent from the week before, but still more than 7 percent off its season high, and 32 percent below last year's average. In fact, "Sarah Connor" is still 15.6 percent behind its lowest audience of the first season.
In terms of household ratings, "Heroes" finished ahead of only "Prison Break" and The CW programming in its first hour, and finished in last for the 10 p.m. hour, even being beat by "Boston Legal" on ABC. However, Zap2it says "Heroes" did have more viewers, if not more households.
Not even the coveted 18 to 49 age demographic is going to bail out either show this time around. NBC had a 4.1 overall, not terribly bad, but still only good enough for third behind a 4.5 from CBS and a 4.3 from ABC. While it was close at the top, it wasn't anywhere near that for everyone else. Fox finished last among the big four with a 2.4 while The CW finished with a 1.5.
For the night, NBC finished third with a 5.2/8, more than half the audience of ABC (which led mostly with reality programming), while Fox finished fourth with a 3.7/5.
The season opener was amazing. It's really looks like it's setting up a good storyline for the upcoming episodes.
I'm excited for more, but I would like to know what happens next with Micah and Monica.
It's all very exciting though.
I thought two hours was too much really. That plus that countdown thing before made it on all night. I'm actually thinking the show is now getting the ratings I would have expected from the start. I never really understood how the show got so popular with the general audience. It's a complicated, geeky show. Most of us like it, but I really don't think the general public really cares about it as much anymore.
The wife and I enjoyed it enough, we'll keep watching for a while.
Quote from: Rico on September 24, 2008, 10:58:37 AM
I thought two hours was too much really. That plus that countdown thing before made it on all night. I'm actually thinking the show is now getting the ratings I would have expected from the start. I never really understood how the show got so popular with the general audience. It's a complicated, geeky show. Most of us like it, but I really don't think the general public really cares about it as much anymore.
When I was in High School last year Heroes was strangely the only show I watch that I could talk about with a majority of the people. It seemed to me I could get a decent conversation out of at least 50% of the other students. Most of them not in anyway geeks like myself (lets just say they never caught the Star Trek references).
Really? During the short season two? Impressive. My younger son watched season one but lost interest during season two.
Most of the students in my high school loved it, I heard a guy once say at the end of a monday school day say something about Peter, can't remember what, but knew he was excited about the upcoming episode.
I don't think they were as uptodate on all the information like I was, (listening to tenth wonders and reading the graphic novels) but I know they really enjoyed it.
It's the only sci-fi type show my wife will actually watch.
Though I very much enjoyed the two episodes, I was very disappointed in the one hour countdown for a few reasons.
Seeing the actors out of character and being hosts was not good for their characters effect.
The whole look at us we're a phenomenon and we're so pretty and young and hip reading lame lines at our premiere party detracted from the edginess of the show.
They should have just stuck to their format of airing the one hour episode, maybe the second on another night in the same week.
I almost ended up turning off the shows alltogether if I had not started viewing almost an hour into the preshow so I could zap all the crap. By the time we finshed with the preshow we where about 35 Min's behind realtime allowing us to zap commercials and keep up the intensity of the show without interruption.
I'm thinking most people did not view it that way.
How did all of you view it? In realtime, delayed, the next day or online?
TIVO - over two evenings. No commercials for me! And I didn't watch that preshow stuff.
I watched it on Hulu, I don't have a TV to watch it on.
It is still on our DVR. FInding the time can be difficult with 4 kids, what with dinner, homework, chores bedtime etc. We are waiting for the stars to align correctly to get the chance to watch.
Thanks for the heads up though....I think we will skip the pre-show stuff as well.
I thought the start was OK but I am not jumping out of my seat as when I saw season 1. So far it's like season 2 to me. I also thought that the first hour was a waste of time and that they should have only shown one full hour to start the season and not two. For some reason 24 does that also which I think is a bit much for one night of viewing pleasure.
I am really hoping for the series to get back to the season 1 magic but if it doesn't it will be interesting to see what happens to the ratings.
The two-hour premiere of NBC's top drama "Heroes" was down 25% compared with last year's one-hour opener, taking an expected hit following a creatively middling second season and an extended nine-month hiatus prompted by the writers strike.
The "Heroes" debut (9.9 million viewers, 4.9 preliminary adults 18-49 rating and a 12 share -- video clips here) and matched its lowest original episode rating ever. ("Heroes" was actually down even more, 33%, if you include NBC's heavily protested move last fall to roll its Saturday encore rating into its premiere). Clip show lead-in "Heroes: Countdown to the Premiere" (6 million, 2.6/7) placed third in the hour.
Hurrah. We start Heroes over here on Wednesday night on BBC2. Now for those Brits that languish here, we all n
know that this is an amazing thing to happen. Usually, when American TV shows air over here, and It happens fairly soon after the Americans have seen it, It's always on Sky. To have a primetime American show air on BBC2 within only a week or two of you guys is unique. I cannot think of a time when the BBC has ever won the rights to show something that is not at least one season behind America. Bloody brilliant.
I liked last night's episode quite a bit. The stuff with HRG and Sylar was great. Also loved the bits with Hiro and Ando. Lots of interesting things going on. But I thought these villains would stay out longer. Isn't that the whole point of this season? Only part that I didn't care for much was the bit with Claire and her mom. Is Claire claustrophobic? That fire wasn't enough to pull the air out of that area fast enough and it was far from air tight. Besides, wouldn't her mom also have trouble breathing as well then? I thought it was kind of silly. Anyway, still enjoyed the episode overall.
Yeah, that bit with Claire and her mom also had me scratching my head a bit. Maybe showed HP's so so acting which may be why we where unsold on it. HRG and Sylar is a great idea! All and all very entertaining and I will continue to tune in. Could be another great season like the first.
PS I need that Walkman so I can save my IRA! ;)
I'm hearing people say the Claire part was just sort of a psychological thing to show that Claire is really just a scared girl right now. I'm wondering what changes to make her into the bad-ass Claire of the future?
Quote from: Rico on September 30, 2008, 07:38:48 AM
I'm hearing people say the Claire part was just sort of a psychological thing to show that Claire is really just a scared girl right now. I'm wondering what changes to make her into the bad-ass Claire of the future?
Rico,
The key for me is that the character now cannot "feel" any pain since the attack by Sylar. I'm thinking they will build the reason for the bad-ass Claire of the future because of that. Of course I'm guessing as now the future may have been changed. It's like Janway always said. The past is the future, the future is the past. It gives me a headache! :2cents
Cool stuff last night.. I'm glad they didn't drag on the Peter in another body for episodes and episodes. Mama Petrelli says that 12 villians got out.. so three have been capture/killed many more to go. I like the whole Claire turning to the darkside.. can't wait to see what happens. Poor Hiro and Ando.. nothing every works out the way they plan.. now they are in level 5. And they also answered if Niki/Jessica were alive or dead.. of as many of us thought she is dead.. poor Micha.. I wonder if this is the end of his story and his cousin who had a cool power.. maybe it's not the end of them. And of course the big reveal Tracy/Niki/Jessica and others are all clones with super powers.. I wonder how many more of them are out there. I liked that twist.. I guess Ali will be around on Heroes for a long time as they kill off her character she can come back again and again as different clones with different powers.
Wow Kenny,
You saw quite a bit more than I did. Some of those things did occur to me as I watched, but the clone thing did not. Good watching out. I still would like one of those old Walkman. Cool that they chose that instead of an iPod with the new future picture artist(s?) in Africa.
Kenny - I must of missed the comment about 12 villains. They sure didn't show all those. Also, where did you hear the clone comment? Who said that?
I don't buy the Claire thing yet......kinda like i didn't buy Anakin switching in EP III :)
Other than that it was a decent episode.
I don't think anyone on the show said that they were clones. I think that they might be from a fertility experiment, but I don't see them being clones. I think that the kids were all invitro or something like that and the doc used specific donors. We also know that the blood of Claire can heal death, so we might not have seen the end of Nikki
Quote from: Rico on September 30, 2008, 02:07:10 PM
Kenny - I must of missed the comment about 12 villains. They sure didn't show all those. Also, where did you hear the clone comment? Who said that?
They didn't say clone.. but at the end with the doctor says he create her and Niki and Jessica and when he opened the door he called her another name meaning he created more.. I just assumed clones with powers.
As for 12 villains, I remember someone saying a dozen escaped.
I assume we just didn't see the other villians out of the 12, I mean we never saw the guy from the webseries they made on the show and we know he ended up in there too, so I would assume he has also escaped like the others.
I have to say, my wife and I are enjoying the season so far. Sylar in a suit is awesome!
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on September 30, 2008, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: Rico on September 30, 2008, 02:07:10 PM
Kenny - I must of missed the comment about 12 villains. They sure didn't show all those. Also, where did you hear the clone comment? Who said that?
They didn't say clone.. but at the end with the doctor says he create her and Niki and Jessica and when he opened the door he called her another name meaning he created more.. I just assumed clones with powers.
I still think Kenny is on to something that has a lot of potential.
Oh, they certainly could be clones but I just hadn't heard them say that on the show. It does let them kill off the character and keep bringing her back with a new life, new power, etc. each season.
Just a few random thoughts about last night:
The guy in Africa basically has the same power as Issac but it centers specifically on Parkman...interesting.
Parkman's eyes went milky near the end also...how does that work?
I really liked Micah's cousin....was she in the bldg that exploded? I can't remember. If not, why isn't she in the story yet?
I also thought "clones" when Tracy meets the doctor.
I also loved the paring of Sylar and HRG...and finally...
Did anyone else but me laugh out loud at the Sylar/Peter interaction in the preview for next week...I just thought it was hilarious.
Ok so I have not read anything from the above posts because as you know we here in Blighty have just had episode 1 shown. So i loved the first episode for me it jumped straight into the action, especially with Hiro. Have a good feeling about this series.
Last night's episode - WOW! Still kind of digesting it all. Loved the bit in the future with Sylar & Peter. The episode brought up questions for me. Here are a few:
- How did they get away from Sylar blowing up? Peter? Did he grab Claire and that other guy? How did they actually capture him then in the future then if he saved them??
- Where is Nathan's wife during all this stuff? Did they divorce??
- How does Level 5 work to neutralize powers? That Haitian can't stand guard all the time.
This season seems all about turning things kind of upside down. Bad guys go good and good guys go bad. I'm liking it a lot but still confused by a few things. And Molly should of looked much older in the future. They should of gotten another actress for that bit.
It was very amazing! They are so good at mixing everything up. The waffle scene was done so well. It is so strange seeing Sylar er um, Gabriel acting the way he is. :) We were glued to the set last night. Great episode... and what????? Didn't look like that kiss was cold! :) Man you wouldn't want to get on her bad side... it could be rather smashing with a cold personality. :)
This week answered a few things. Some have wondered why the formula is still around, but I can understand that. Just like they keep deadly diseases around too. You never know when you might need to whip up a bunch of "specials" again. I actually thought Claire for a few minutes was going to get pulled away. And then they would show her in this sort of alternate Earth when she goes all evil and comes back wearing black leather with dark hair! The Ando part I'm unsure of. Loved the end with the Puppet Master guy - very creepy!
OMG - the scene with Ando "blinking" Hiro's eyes !! :roflmao
So, he's alive...did they ever reference what happened to him ?
Suresh is turning into -- spiderman ??
I so want to read these posts but we've only had episode 2, and i am loving this season.
I really enjoyed last nights episode.. loved the "vortex" sfx.. Monhinder is turning into a really bad spider type villan. It was cool to find out that some of the people were made super and not born super. I don't think Ando is dead.. I assume Hiro stopped time and they rigged the stabbing. Loved the neck breaking sylar and peter fight.. I thought Mama Petrelli was a goner. I'm happy to get some answers about the whole Linderman and who is really behind this plan. It was another solid episode.. answered some questions (which I like) and left us with a bit more questions.
And Rico I agree with you 100% that puppet guy gave me the creeps... just thinking about it gives me the creeps..
I think it is safe to say Heroes is back. Season 2 was sufficient and cut short. This season reminds me of season 1 when it was the hottest thing on TV and there is never a borring moment.
Just got done watching. Wow, intense episode for all the reasons stated.
I'm glad they found a way to kill Nicki but keep Ali Larter. But why not another story about Micha and his copy cat cousin?
Urg - this is a hard thread to follow. Posts on here look to be one episode ahead of us in the UK but are vague enough to not give too much away (or at least...I don't understand them).
Last night (BBC3 episode, not BBC2 episode) we had Sylar making breakfast and Peter fixing watches in the future. Not sure what to make of evil Claire or any of the other future characters yet.
Parkman's thread is simply funny. The African guy quotes all sorts of stuff at him which he seems to assume to be tribal wisdom or something but it's then turned around with the 'you don't read much do you' comment. Hilarious!
Wow.. this season has been so intense.. Tonight was had the whole roulette scene.. that puppet master was very creepy.. Mohinder is going from bad to worse. I like Daphene. The Hiro and Ando scenes were fun. No more Adam.. that was quick. And the end with Peter and his father.
There are alot of people complaining about his season and I can't honestly say why.. I'm loving it.
I agree Kenny, the viewing public seems so fickle sometimes. In my view there is much more action and things going on with all the characters this season than ever before. Season one didn't have all this. I mean we see all the various powers being used quite often now. Just lots of cool stuff going on. I'm liking it a lot. I'm not quite sure how everything is all fitting together and there are a few little things that still bug me (like where is Nathan's wife? Didn't he have kids too??). But still, the show is a lot of fun to watch.
Rico, thats weird, I shouted that same thing out while as was I watching Nathan (hey where's your wife and kids dude!). Still intrigued with where the Claire character is going. They seem to be changing her face makeup and making her look less and less girl and more and more young woman she is growing up fast! I never thought I'd say it but Mohinder is scaring me. He is getting more powerful and sort of psycho. Finally loved the end of Adam, after it happened I turned around to my wife and said "He choose poorly" :roflmao
Nathan's wife and kids were addressed in the second season.. he lost them when he spiraled out of control after Peter's supposedly dead.. remember when he was a drunk all the time and had that beard and he kept looking into the mirror and seeing the burnt face. I think his storyline suffered also when the strike happened.
Yeah - I'm recalling it now. I guess they just didn't seem to make a big deal about it. Thought I even saw him still wearing his wedding ring for a long time too. Anyway, not a big deal I guess.
Seems like there is an abundance of villains this season too. I think they might need some new "Heroes" to get them all.
I liked the episode a lot. So many things happening at once. It' hard to keep it straght,but it is very entertaning. Man marrionette guy was a total creep. And HRG's comment to Claire... what an opportunist.
:) Gee whiz, what a crazy show!
Ando Lives to see another day!!!!
Watched and loved last nights episode, especially when Claire has her Mom shoot her! Hey, my wife is saying now that Sylar is on "her list". Should I be concerned?
;)
So do you think Parkman knows what Daphne is trying to do? I think he has to.
Ok, just watched this week's episode. Now.. I'm not trying to be too critical, but the Pratelli's dad is not a good actor. Everyone else acts cirlces around him. That isn't normal for this series. I wonder what gives? Other than that... great episode... many things happened.
"Heroes" Duo Fired By NBC
By Garth FranklinMonday, November 3rd 2008 12:19am
"Heroes" writers/co-executive producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb were fired on Sunday reports Variety.
The pair led day-to-day production operation under the direction of creator/executive producer Tim Kring since the show's inception.
The reason for the dismissal has been due to "NBC executives frustration with the creative direction of the show" which has struggled in the ratings in its third season.
The series has also been dealing with hefty budget overruns going beyond the already large $4 million per-episode pricetag.
Just read that Kenny, sad. I hope the show's formula still works as well as it has.
Heroes' Kring To Simplify
Tim Kring, creator and executive producer of NBC's Heroes, has been under pressure to simplify the show's storylines and refocus on character development, Variety reported.
There's been a feeling that he's delegated too much responsibility for writing and story development to his top writing lieutenants, co-executive producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb, and over the weekend, at the prodding of NBC executives, Kring made the tough call to let Alexander and Loeb go from the show that the duo had helped shepherd since season one.
Kring has reportedly assured NBC and Universal Media Studios, which produces the series, that he intends to focus on simplifying what's been criticized, even by ardent fans, as an overly complex storytelling structure to get back to the show's comic-bookish good-vs.-evil themes and to emphasize character development more than plot twists.
The thinking is that his focus is needed most in breaking stories and refining the tone of the show for the remainder of its third season, the trade paper reported.
Heroes is averaging 10.4 million viewers and a 5.1 rating/12 share among adults 18-49 so far in its third season, a 21 percent drop in total viewers and an 18 percent decline in adults 18-49 from its second season (which was cut short by the writers' strike).
Should they make West a villian for Claire?
Wes just kind of disappeared..
Yeah, and bring back her camera guy from the first season to team up with him.... Claire meets boys from the past.
I'm really enjoying this season. It will be interesting to see what this does to the rest of year 3.
Do you think the impact will be that obvious? They're somewhat obliged to tie up all that's started in this season and I think that could take a while.
Heroes, Villains Past Revealed
NBC's Heroes digs into the past and Eric Roberts' previously deceased character, Company bad guy Thompson, returns in the Nov. 10 episode "Villains," creator and executive producer Tim Kring told SCI FI Wire. Of course, being dead doesn't mean you're out when it comes to Heroes, does it Niki/Jessica/Tracy?
"'Villains' is in many ways the origin story for our villains," Kring said. "You get a little bit more of the origin story of Sylar [Zachary Quinto] and then you get the origin story of Arthur Petrelli [Robert Forster]. Then also some of the Primatech story as well." The Primatech story involves Claire's mother, Meredith Gordon, played by Jessalyn Gilsig.
The irony of having an episode named "Villains" in Heroes "Volume Three: Villains" isn't lost on Kring, but he promises a "cool" episode that will extend the show's mythology.
"We go back basically a year before the pilot started," Kring said. "We dig into the whole idea of the Petrelli family when they were actually a family and Arthur was part of the picture. We learn all sorts of little family secrets in that episode."
"Volume Three: Villains" is the first of two volumes slated for this season. "Villains"' volume finale will air on Dec. 15, with "Volume Four: Fugitives" premiering the day after the Superbowl, Kring said.
Interesting episode last night. We learned quite a bit. But some things still are kind of in question. Oh, and I'm really disliking Arthur Petrelli. One thing I have a problem with is WHY he is doing everything he is doing. I have a problem with villains that seem to have little to no reason for what they do. I would have expected to learn more of that in a flashback type episode. I mean to order your son to be killed?? I can't even imagine that or the reasons behind it. Why couldn't he just put the mind whammy on Nathan? Seems weird to me.
I agree Rico, I dont like Arthur Petrelli either. Partly because he just seems like a really bad guy, and the other part I have no idea still why he is such a bad guy, or his reasons for being that way. I am hoping this season will give me those reasons, and I suspect that it will. I did really like to see the Company in action as well, with Noah and Thompson out on assignment. Thought it was cool that Noah and Elle basically pushed Sylar into being a bad guy.
Last nights episode was hard to follow at times, jumping all around, but it was good. Arthur, or the guy that played him, did a much better acting job in last night's episode. I didn't like his acting the first time we saw him, eeeek. I liked the show, and the end? WHAT??? HIRO! Peach Pie... Goth finger shooter... hmmm. It was all pretty cool.
Me and my cousions were discussing this last night... Did Aurther take Hiro's ability at the end?
Just finished this weeks Heroes.. I really enjoyed it.. I love how they tied in everything with season ones first episode. Claire's mom/train wreck and then Claire shows up. HRG getting into the taxi with Suresh... all those little tie ends.. it was pretty sweet... also It was interesting to see that Angela, Elle, Sylar all weren't bad, but situations made them that way. And of course the shocking ending.. great stuff.
So how did folks like last night's "Heroes?" I thought it was ok, but they seem to constantly just kind of playing with things, abilities and so forth. The Sylar/Elle stuff was neat. I still don't know why Papa Petrelli is doing all he is doing. Loved the stuff with Hiro and Ando.
I want to eat Chicken and Waffles. :) Really, I was craving them after the show.
I liked the show last night. But again, I thought papa petrelli is a lousy actor. Like he's reading off of a script just outside of the camera. :) The other folks are so awseome. Anyway, cool show. Left me wanting more as usual. I just loved Hiro and Ando's stuff too.
I thought the Hiro and Ando stuff was pretty cool as well, though I dont think I have the craving for Chicken and Waffles, not sure if I could eat that Combo lol.
All the stuff happening in Mrs Petrellis head with Matt I did not care for to much, seems to take things a bit to far. I agree that Mr Petrelli doesn't seem like the greatest character or actor. Does seem like sides are forming, so looking forward to the battle between the Heroes and the Villains.
I was wondering about the eclipse on next week's show. If people with powers lose them do you think people without powers will get them? Maybe Peter will get his abilities back.
Heroes is on Wednesday night here and from what I read in this thread it looks like BBC3 is showing it in step with the States - Wow!
(An episode of Heroes is shown on BBC1 at 9pm tonight with the next episode being shown on BBC3 - a digital channel - at 10pm)
I was left completely flat by this recent episode. Very disappointing. The Hero/Ando story line is cute but the rest are LAME! I hope they can pick it up before the end of the Season. I can't stand any of the Petrelli storylines and even Sylar is boring now! :(
I think some of those complaints are the reason for this news I heard this week:
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/11/03/staffing-changes-for-heroes/ (http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2008/11/03/staffing-changes-for-heroes/)
Quote from: Bryancd on November 19, 2008, 09:05:26 AM
I was left completely flat by this recent episode. Very disappointing. The Hero/Ando story line is cute but the rest are LAME! I hope they can pick it up before the end of the Season. I can't stand any of the Petrelli storylines and even Sylar is boring now! :(
I loved the Gabriel storyline. It suddenly came into focus for me.
Peter, Gabriel, and Dad all have the same power.
Peter being the most emo ... umm empathic was able to copy people from the beginning.
I'm looking forward to see where it's going this time.
Interesting last couple of episodes. Last night I loved the stuff with Hiro and the comic shop guys (cool to see Seth Green). The only thing is the episode was fairly predictable. Next week's looks like a big showdown episode. Should be good.
Another great heroes. This is what was missing last year. And the comic book part was a tip of the hat to us geeks.
I'm very excited about the next episode. From the promos they have posted on YouTube, I hope Papa Petrelli is going to get what's been coming to him... the pointless jerk.
I liked the Robot Chicken guys, but, like you said Rico, it was all very predictable.
I've enjoyed this season of Heroes.. I do have to say that was the longest Eclipse I had ever seen.. but other then that it was cool..
Also next week is the last episode of Volume Three.. then when it comes back after the break they start Volume Four: Fugitives.
Not only was the Eclipse long, it was visable all over the world and happens once a year.
OK, loved this weeks episode, much better than the past few!
Intersting...
Have you guys had a weeks gap in the schedule of Heroes? From the looks of it, the episode you're discussing this week is the one that aired last week over here.
We have the next episode tonight (11/25 The Eclipse: Part 2)....and another on the 10th (12/25). The BBC doesn't take schedule breaks mid-series so I'd expect them to carry on but I've no doubt Christmas will get in the way eventually.
We just had Pt. 2 of the Eclipse story here. Next Monday is the big showdown episode with the heroes and villains. I don't think you are getting them ahead of us. The BBC can't air shows that haven't been released to them yet. I've never heard of the UK getting prime time network series before the US sees them.
If you had part two this week then we're still in step. The comments were obviously so un-spoilery (is that a word) that I couldn't tell which episode had aired.
I thought we got the last half of season 1 of Heroes before the US but I could be wrong.
Edit: OK, I can't find any info to back that statement up so I guess it didn't happen that way :)
Just like the BBC keeps their shows and airs them before they show up over in the States the same is true for the big networks here like NBC, ABC, CBS. I don't think other countries will ever get these before they air here. It's nice they have gotten to airing them close to the same time. Now syndication and cable networks are a completely different thing. And that can be all over the place. There may have been an unusual exception sometime, but I think that's generally the way it has worked. At least up until now.
We had Eclipse part 1 this week, we get part 2 next week so looks like we're just a bit behind. Mike check out the BBC iplayer it tells you the episodes.
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on December 04, 2008, 02:33:27 PM
We had Eclipse part 1 this week, we get part 2 next week so looks like we're just a bit behind. Mike check out the BBC iplayer it tells you the episodes.
Looks like you're on BBC1 schedule there Meds.
I'm watching on BBC3 so I'm an episode ahead of you. We saw 'Eclipse - Part 2' this week and according to the RadioTimes website get 'Our Father' next week and 'Duality' on the 17th.
Ah of course BBC3 so yeah you are on the same line as America. I tend not to watch the BBC3 ahead schedule as i like to look forward to the next week. Saying that i've still not watched part 1 yet.
I still look forward to next week, it's only on week 1 where we got a double dose. Thereafter, we're on a week by week schedule too - just a different one from you :)
Having said that, at the end of season 1 we had to wait 2 weeks for the final episode since they showed it on both channels on the same day i.e. on the day that BBC1 viewers were due to see it - frustrating!
"Dead Like Me" and "Pushing Daisies" creator/executive producer Bryan Fuller is close to a two-year overall deal with Universal Media Studios which will include him rejoining the drama "Heroes" on which he served as writer during the first season reports Reuters.
Fuller, who is wrapping post-production on the final episodes of "Daisies'" 13-episode second-season order, would officially come on board "Heroes" starting with Episode 20. His exact role though is undetermined though he's expected to play a key role in the writers room alongside showrunner Tim Kring.
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on December 04, 2008, 04:58:29 PM
"Dead Like Me" and "Pushing Daisies" creator/executive producer Bryan Fuller is close to a two-year overall deal with Universal Media Studios which will include him rejoining the drama "Heroes" on which he served as writer during the first season reports Reuters.
Fuller, who is wrapping post-production on the final episodes of "Daisies'" 13-episode second-season order, would officially come on board "Heroes" starting with Episode 20. His exact role though is undetermined though he's expected to play a key role in the writers room alongside showrunner Tim Kring.
This is very good news for the show!
(Spoilers)
What? Nathen and President Warf locking up the heroes?
While the recent episode (the last one until Feb 2nd) had some good moments I'm still starting to get a bit frustrated by the series. My one big problem right now is Nathan. I mean what turned him into such a crazy nutcase? I don't understand at all why he is doing what he is doing or what his agenda is. It's really bugging me. Anyway, we have about 6 weeks to ponder it all before the show returns.
Overall I was happy with this "Volume". Personally I would have liked to have seen more "Power vs Power" Battles" between the characters.
Worf For President!!!
Quote from: Rico on December 16, 2008, 10:03:50 AM
While the recent episode (the last one until Feb 2nd) had some good moments I'm still starting to get a bit frustrated by the series. My one big problem right now is Nathan. I mean what turned him into such a crazy nutcase? I don't understand at all why he is doing what he is doing or what his agenda is. It's really bugging me. Anyway, we have about 6 weeks to ponder it all before the show returns.
I have to agree with you Rico, Nathan seems to be flip flopping a lot, and goes from one extreme to the other even over the course of an episode. I did not care for Mr Patrelli, but even the way they finished him off seemed unsatisfying. I felt a bit let down with the conclusion of this chapter, felt rushed to me. I am interested to see how Ando's abilities play out, and how he and Hiro get to the point in the future that Hiro had seen earlier. I guess I am interested to see what happens with Peter as well, I was sort of hoping he would reclaim his powers he had before, and I am hoping he is not limited to just the one power.
I think Peter sort of got "reset." I think he is back to having the power to learn other people's powers. He just got flight from Nathan so far.
Bearing in mind I haven't seen this weeks episode yet (on tonight) what is it with Hiro and the 'future self' as seen in the last series?
Whil I like what I've been watching this year and there have still been some 'edge of the seat' episode endings, we seem to have deviated a long way from the future as projected in the first series. Is that future gone/changed as a result of season 1's finale or is this still something that's to come?
Hiro spent most of season 1 toughening up and realising he wasn't just a corporate drone then by season 3 he had become the bored executives son again.
I agree with Rico that Peter really is all over the place. The whole Petrelli family story line isn't doing much for me . I like the Hiro/Ando/Speedster stuff ok. Claire walking around with a shotgun being a bada*# was lame. She doesn't do tough girl well, I liked her more as the confused but indestructable cheerleader. The past few episodes had been better but I wasn't impressed with last nights.
Quote from: Rico on December 16, 2008, 10:03:50 AM
While the recent episode (the last one until Feb 2nd) had some good moments I'm still starting to get a bit frustrated by the series. My one big problem right now is Nathan. I mean what turned him into such a crazy nutcase? I don't understand at all why he is doing what he is doing or what his agenda is. It's really bugging me. Anyway, we have about 6 weeks to ponder it all before the show returns.
Could Nathan be dead and replaced by someone who shapeshifts? Like after being shot by future Peter, died (Or possible locked away) and we haven't really seen Nathan all season...