Tommorrow at 9p.m. Razor. I am excited. :cylon
YES - very excited! They are showing the little preview clips during the "Enterprise" marathon today. It's going to be a lot of fun!
Quote from: Rico on November 23, 2007, 06:51:29 PM
YES - very excited! They are showing the little preview clips during the "Enterprise" marathon today. It's going to be a lot of fun!
Don't remind me. I watched quite a bit of that marathon. The commercials were really getting annoying. Can't they vary it just a little? lol ;)
King Linksr
Of course, I pretty much started to study math during commercials. It helped ;)
King Linksr
Cannot wait until tonight....or tomorrow or whenever I actually get to watch it. The DVR is set and I am ready.
Holy Cow, that was Awesome, All I can really say right now is wow. Liked the Old School raiders and cylons
Pretty cool show. I too enjoyed the old style Cylons and ships.
By your command!
Wow.
FYI
If anyone missed it you can go to this link and watch it
http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1884418
Welcome Amar! Oh, loved Razor. The mixing of old school and new school Cylons, etc. was done amazingly well. These guys know how to write a story. And man, Admiral Cain was even more of a bit$% than I thought before. Man, this made me miss BSG even more. I'll be picking up the DVD when it comes out. Maybe it will be out in HD too. Have to check on that.
Possible Spoilers
I thought after watching this that I would be more sympathetic to Admiral Cain, but she was really just a women scorned, and to me at least it seemed to be the motive behind her cruelty. Her anger towards the Cylons and Gina seemed to be misdirected towards her own people in the end. I loved how they how they mixed in the mission with Lee's Pegasus with the the Flashback of Cain 10 months previously, and then the part with Adama when he was young. I liked how they tied the Hybrid story into the Ongoing Story right now. I really miss BSG now and really hope we get some this year.
I think that Admiral Cain was a coward and a bully and used her position to for others to deal with her fear. She had no redeaming qualities what so ever.
Downloading it now, hope to watch it tonight
Quote from: Just X on November 25, 2007, 07:49:15 AM
I think that Admiral Cain was a coward and a bully and used her position to for others to deal with her fear. She had no redeaming qualities what so ever.
You know, I have met people like that. They did a great job on her character, because she was pushed past what most of us would do. There is a small percentage of people like her in the world. Pretty crazy.
Hi gang
Looking forward to Razor but here in the UK we dont get it til 5th December!
Sounds cool though.
Quote from: Amar on November 25, 2007, 04:50:44 AM
FYI
If anyone missed it you can go to this link and watch it
http://joox.net/cat/2/id/1884418
Thanks Amar, This looks like a fresh start for us BSG fans of the original series :cylon
Truth - It makes me happy that this is last season of show.
Here is my recap of the show - Cylons attack, Cain evil, Cylon gay, Civilians dead, New lady who I can't remember her name and who really cares what it is because I figured out right away she would be dead at the end of the show feels bad, Don't trust Starbuck. Nuke goes boom. And they all live in their same dark depressing lives that makes you wonder why they keep on going.
They keep on going because keeping on going is better then being dead.
Ugggggggg!!!! I set my stinking DVR to record it...made sure I had plenty of space available and somehow it only recorded the SECOND hour of Razor!!!! I can only hope they'll play an encore. :(
Quote from: billybob476 on November 25, 2007, 06:56:09 PM
They keep on going because keeping on going is better then being dead.
Quoted For Truth. You hit the nail on the head.
This show may have its dark moments (o.k.; most of them are dark), but the darkness only makes the lighter moments that much sweeter.
To me, this show isn't about a group of people living in a dark, scary situation. It's about the strength of the human spirit, and how, even when things are looking their wost, people can find it in themselves to keep on going.
Razor was an outstanding installment in what remains one of The Best shows on television.
I agree wraith. This show is a tribute to the human spirit and has some of the best writing in television. I loved "Razor" and just hope they get a chance to finish season 4 the way they intended - strike or no strike.
I generally don't dislike any of the "good guys" on TV shows except for Starbuck on BSG. And now I absolutely can't stand that Cain character.
However, I do agree with Wraith and Rico and the whole human spirit thing. BSG is a very dark TV series so I can't wait for that final happy ending (hopefully).
Quote from: Just X on November 25, 2007, 07:49:15 AM
I think that Admiral Cain was a coward and a bully and used her position to for others to deal with her fear. She had no redeaming qualities what so ever.
I agree. Before I finally watched Razor (thanks to the link provided in this thread), I thought Cain was twisted because of the horrible things she endured during war, only to find out later that she sick from the word "go". She wasn't a strong woman or a trusted leader, she was a selfish dictator who deserved what she got in the end.
All and all, I enjoyed the episode and the perspective from the Pegasus. This episode illustrates how a bad leader can lead good people astray.
I FEEL TEASED...Oh BSG why do you tease me so. Just enough to keep me hanging on. I am currently barely pregnant and I am going to create human life before the next show comes out. Oh why oh why???... But I digress.
Yes I do think that Cain is just a bad person. I am one of the few that does like Starbuck. You can say that Cain or Kendra(?) were made that way because of the situation. But a situation is how you make a fracked up, drunken, fearless pilot; not how you make cold blooded monsters. It has to be in you somewhere. Maybe it is in all of us, I would like to hope not. In a conversation with another fan last night I inadvertantly quoted Adama because the survival of the human race is not just about survival, it is about being worth surviving.
Well said Angela. There are some things to me that are not justified, even in the time of war. And Cain was guilty of many of them. I think one of Ron Moore's themes or ideas with BSG all along is to blur the line of what it is to be human. He has made some of the human looking Cylons more sympathetic and more human than several real humans we have seen.
Just wish we didn't have a such a long wait for more BSG. I miss it.
There are 4 podcasts available at Sci Fi.com which recorded the writter meetings for Razor. For some great insight into what they were looking to convey with this show, check them out. I am actually listening to them first before watching Razor which I recorded. It will be great to watch the show knowing what they were trying to accomplish with the themes and characters.
I agree with Angela. Those people were tainted goods. Cain not only murdered her own people, she murdered and abandoned civilians all for the sake of a fight that they couldn't win. She had no place being in her position and her entire ship was a crew of damned fools for not doing their duty and protecting the civilians they were sworn to protect.
Watching Cain on the regular series was always a little difficult for me, so in this movie when she's fully in her element and before she goes toe-to-toe with Adama, it's even scarier actually. BSG often leaves a very heavy cloud in its wake, but it is always very thought-provoking as well. I enjoyed Razor a lot.
For a lighter take on BSG, has anyone else read this post? It's pretty funny.
You Know You've Been Watching Too Much Battlestar Galactica When
http://www.martianoutpost.com/?p=29
I think the only issue I had with Razor was the actress playing Kendra. If you listen to the writer meeting podcasts on SciFi.com, her character sounded much different to me than how it was portrayed. Otherwise it was great.
Really enjoyed this
Don't forget the unrated/extended cut DVD comes out tomorrow. I'm so glad that I have been too busy to watch it on my DVR.. now I can enjoy the DVD tomorrow... I can't wait to watch it.
I saw that when I was ordering Christmas presents from Deep Discounts. I guess I should have known it would come out on DVD. BTW, thanks for telling me about that site. They have VERY good prices. :)
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on December 03, 2007, 03:56:33 PM
Don't forget the unrated/extended cut DVD comes out tomorrow. I'm so glad that I have been too busy to watch it on my DVR.. now I can enjoy the DVD tomorrow... I can't wait to watch it.
Same here. I hear some of the extra material includes scenes of young Cain during the early days of the Cylon war. I'm curious to find out what kind of circumstances helped to create such a troubled person.
I missed the Razor broadcast, but picked up the extended version yesterday, and just finished watching it. Wow... really, really good. The problem is that now I am even more impatient for next season to start.
BSG just rocks.... 'nuff said
Duffster
Quote from: Duffster on December 09, 2007, 09:28:21 AM
BSG just rocks.... 'nuff said
Duffster
Yep!
The extended version was pretty cool. I was especially drawn in by the scene with young Cain, her father, and little sister. Pretty intense stuff!
Well after four months I was finally able to sit down and watch BSG Razor... all I can say is WOW.. what an FRAKING AWESOME story. it was told so well. Loved the old school Cylons and Raiders.
Now I'm ready for tonight.
I really loved "Razor." Some people didn't seem to care for it. But I loved it!
Quote from: Rico on April 04, 2008, 04:45:21 PM
I really loved "Razor." Some people didn't seem to care for it...
Those people are known as "crazy". ;)
Quote from: RicoBut I loved it!
Same here! The look back into Adama and Cain's past was awesome... It really helped to explain how they became the characters we know. It was also cool to see the old-school Cylons and Raiders! :cylon