Prometheus

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Bryancd

Quote from: jedijeff on June 09, 2012, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on June 09, 2012, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: jedijeff on June 09, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
I got back from the movie and I enjoyed it

[spoiler]At the end, I was very happy with the pacing of the movie, and it left me plenty to think about. My wife, my friend and I discussed on the way home about some of the questions, and it is not often we do that. I was expecting a bit more action, but in the end I am happy with how this movie went, as even though I love a lot of action, it is so rare you get a sci-fi movie these days that is not pumped full of action. I could never really get an real good understanding of the first scene, and the alien ingesting the stuff and dieing. Maybe I missed something, or that is something that might be further explained in a future movie.
I found the Android David very creepy, very well acted. I was not all that Disappointed that Holloway got infected and died, as I thought he was a bit of a Jerk. Maybe it was something I missed again, but his character sort of changed, as he was so eager to get to the planet, but after they returned after their first trip out, he just seemed consumed with drinking, and looked to be in a bit of a funk.
They really setup for a sequel, and I have to say, I really hope they make it, as I don't think I would be happy with just this movie, as for the questions it answered, it brought up a bunch more.[/spoiler]

I can respond to some of that, Jeff..

[spoiler]The first scene was primordial Earth and the Engineer was sacrificing himself to seed Earth with his DNA and the creation of life. I agree 100% about the Holloway character, his dissapointment over not being able to speak with the Engineers seemed way over the top considering they just fraction' discovered an alien culture! He's supposed to be a thoughtful scientist but comes across as a petualnt brat in that scene.  [/spoiler]


Thanks Bryan, that makes sense and now I understand that scene :)

And it makes the entire plot more interesting!

Rico

Hmmm....

[spoiler]The alien on Earth at the start didn't seem to be intentionally sacrificing himself.  I got the impression he was tricked.  He reacted very surprised when his body started to get consumed after he drank that stuff - whatever that was.  I got the idea it was some kind of ceremony and he was sacrificed by others.  He just didn't seem to expect what happened to him.[/spoiler]

Bryancd

Quote from: Rico on June 09, 2012, 03:59:09 PM
Hmmm....

[spoiler]The alien on Earth at the start didn't seem to be intentionally sacrificing himself.  I got the impression he was tricked.  He reacted very surprised when his body started to get consumed after he drank that stuff - whatever that was.  I got the idea it was some kind of ceremony and he was sacrificed by others.  He just didn't seem to expect what happened to him.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]From what I have read he either was self sacrificing or was being punished/executed. Either way it seems he was aware of what would happen when he consumed that goo and that makes sense as the Engineer's are the arcitects of this kind of terra forming. I think it plays better that he was there to seed the Earth with life intentionally, thus giving them a reason to be interested in us, even if to kill us all. Curious timing of 2000 years ago they hatched the plan to come back and wipe us out, coincides with the rise of Christianity. Perhaps they felt forsaken? Either way, they would only care if they had come and intentionally created us. [spoiler]

Bryancd


Rico

My comments and thoughts are based on my impressions from the film itself.  I find it interesting that you should have to read reddit or other sources to explain a movie.  Of course, that's Ridley for you.  :)

Bromptonboy

Going to see this on Monday night.  At any rate it looks thought provoking - which I like.
Pete

Bryancd

Quote from: Rico on June 10, 2012, 04:48:30 AM
My comments and thoughts are based on my impressions from the film itself.  I find it interesting that you should have to read reddit or other sources to explain a movie.  Of course, that's Ridley for you.  :)

Um, yeah. Dude, I still don't understand what the hell is going on in BLADE RUNNER... :)

Rico

Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2012, 05:41:24 AM
Quote from: Rico on June 10, 2012, 04:48:30 AM
My comments and thoughts are based on my impressions from the film itself.  I find it interesting that you should have to read reddit or other sources to explain a movie.  Of course, that's Ridley for you.  :)

Um, yeah. Dude, I still don't understand what the hell is going on in BLADE RUNNER... :)

I don't think Ridley knows either!  LOL!!!   :roflmao

jedijeff

Interesting Article with Damon Lindelof
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/06/07/prometheus-writer-damon-lindelof-talks-engineers-alien-family-tree-the-sequels-opening-scene/
[spoiler]I have to say, this movie has got me thinking more and more about some of my questions. I sort of like how it leaves things open for people to draw their own conclusions. I guess with Damon Lindelof, you either love him or you hate him for that. I was thinking about the scene where they were examining the Engineers head, and when they brought him back to live, I thought either it was a reaction to what they shot into him, or he was infested with something. But now I am thinking maybe seeing the Humans and discovering the mission to take out Earth was a failure, maybe he forced himself to explode his head in an attempt to take out the humans in the room. I think I am going to go see this movie again, as I have a lot of thoughts on it, and want to run it through my head.[/spoiler]

Bryancd

Quote from: jedijeff on June 10, 2012, 06:32:16 AM
Interesting Article with Damon Lindelof
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/06/07/prometheus-writer-damon-lindelof-talks-engineers-alien-family-tree-the-sequels-opening-scene/
[spoiler]I have to say, this movie has got me thinking more and more about some of my questions. I sort of like how it leaves things open for people to draw their own conclusions. I guess with Damon Lindelof, you either love him or you hate him for that. I was thinking about the scene where they were examining the Engineers head, and when they brought him back to live, I thought either it was a reaction to what they shot into him, or he was infested with something. But now I am thinking maybe seeing the Humans and discovering the mission to take out Earth was a failure, maybe he forced himself to explode his head in an attempt to take out the humans in the room. I think I am going to go see this movie again, as I have a lot of thoughts on it, and want to run it through my head.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think he had been infected with the black goo and was going to breakdown similar to the scene at the opening of the film on Earth. The black goo has the power of creation but it does so through destruction. When they reanimated the head, the infection was able to continue it's course of destruction. I was also thinking about the scene where they wake up the Engineer in stairs. When the Engineer wakes up he doesn't seem very put off by the presence of the humans around him. When David speaks to him, and it would be fascinating to know what he said, the Engineer places a hand on Davids head in an almost paternal way. Then he realizes David is a synthetic creation and he goes nuts. We created an abomination of life and he is going to make us pay.[spoiler]

ChrisMC

Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
Quote from: jedijeff on June 10, 2012, 06:32:16 AM
Interesting Article with Damon Lindelof
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/06/07/prometheus-writer-damon-lindelof-talks-engineers-alien-family-tree-the-sequels-opening-scene/
[spoiler]I have to say, this movie has got me thinking more and more about some of my questions. I sort of like how it leaves things open for people to draw their own conclusions. I guess with Damon Lindelof, you either love him or you hate him for that. I was thinking about the scene where they were examining the Engineers head, and when they brought him back to live, I thought either it was a reaction to what they shot into him, or he was infested with something. But now I am thinking maybe seeing the Humans and discovering the mission to take out Earth was a failure, maybe he forced himself to explode his head in an attempt to take out the humans in the room. I think I am going to go see this movie again, as I have a lot of thoughts on it, and want to run it through my head.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think he had been infected with the black goo and was going to breakdown similar to the scene at the opening of the film on Earth. The black goo has the power of creation but it does so through destruction. When they reanimated the head, the infection was able to continue it's course of destruction. I was also thinking about the scene where they wake up the Engineer in stairs. When the Engineer wakes up he doesn't seem very put off by the presence of the humans around him. When David speaks to him, and it would be fascinating to know what he said, the Engineer places a hand on Davids head in an almost paternal way. Then he realizes David is a synthetic creation and he goes nuts. We created an abomination of life and he is going to make us pay.[spoiler]

Yeah, Bryan, that's what I thought. He was all cool until [spoiler]David spoke in his own language, probably somehow mentioning his origins or the Engineer knew intrinsically he was a synthetic. Still, they were off to destroy life on Earth anyway, so they must have been pissed at us for something we did 2000 years ago?[/spoiler]

Anyway, after reflection, great movie. Doesn't assume the audience are a bunch of dummies who can't work stuff out. I have been craving a movie like this for a LONG time.
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Bryancd

Quote from: Chris-El on June 11, 2012, 03:16:51 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on June 10, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
Quote from: jedijeff on June 10, 2012, 06:32:16 AM
Interesting Article with Damon Lindelof
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/06/07/prometheus-writer-damon-lindelof-talks-engineers-alien-family-tree-the-sequels-opening-scene/
[spoiler]I have to say, this movie has got me thinking more and more about some of my questions. I sort of like how it leaves things open for people to draw their own conclusions. I guess with Damon Lindelof, you either love him or you hate him for that. I was thinking about the scene where they were examining the Engineers head, and when they brought him back to live, I thought either it was a reaction to what they shot into him, or he was infested with something. But now I am thinking maybe seeing the Humans and discovering the mission to take out Earth was a failure, maybe he forced himself to explode his head in an attempt to take out the humans in the room. I think I am going to go see this movie again, as I have a lot of thoughts on it, and want to run it through my head.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think he had been infected with the black goo and was going to breakdown similar to the scene at the opening of the film on Earth. The black goo has the power of creation but it does so through destruction. When they reanimated the head, the infection was able to continue it's course of destruction. I was also thinking about the scene where they wake up the Engineer in stairs. When the Engineer wakes up he doesn't seem very put off by the presence of the humans around him. When David speaks to him, and it would be fascinating to know what he said, the Engineer places a hand on Davids head in an almost paternal way. Then he realizes David is a synthetic creation and he goes nuts. We created an abomination of life and he is going to make us pay.[spoiler]

Yeah, Bryan, that's what I thought. He was all cool until [spoiler]David spoke in his own language, probably somehow mentioning his origins or the Engineer knew intrinsically he was a synthetic. Still, they were off to destroy life on Earth anyway, so they must have been pissed at us for something we did 2000 years ago?[/spoiler]

Anyway, after reflection, great movie. Doesn't assume the audience are a bunch of dummies who can't work stuff out. I have been craving a movie like this for a LONG time.

SO glad you liked it as well, Chris!

[spoiler]The birth of Christianity. We had forsaken them. [/spoiler]


ChrisMC

OR Via Sir Ridley: [spoiler]Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an "our children are misbehaving down there" scenario, there are moments where it looks like we've gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.[/spoiler]
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Bryancd

Quote from: Chris-El on June 11, 2012, 03:23:32 PM
OR Via Sir Ridley: [spoiler]Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an "our children are misbehaving down there" scenario, there are moments where it looks like we've gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.[/spoiler]

Whew...we dodged a bullett on that one. :)

ChrisMC

Yes indeed! I'm gonna go again this weekend, maybe trying out 3d. I need to reflect and also pay some more attention. Plus we have to support when true sci-fi movies are in theaters! So there will be a Prometheus 2:Electric Boogaloo.
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