Windows 8

[X]

Yes, thats what I meant. It will be free after rebate. Thank you. I should have worded that a little better. We are setting up a laptop in the back and we are going to have the Win 8 on it so we can all try it out and be familiar with it when it comes out.

Do you work at a Staples?

[WillEagle]

Yes, thats what I meant. It will be free after rebate. Thank you. I should have worded that a little better. We are setting up a laptop in the back and we are going to have the Win 8 on it so we can all try it out and be familiar with it when it comes out.

Do you work at a Staples?

Yes, what made you think I worked there? I have been with them for 14 years.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Windows 8 Store will not allow the sale of M-rated or PEGI-18+ rated games. I guess this means Steam and the rest of the online retailers can breathe a sigh of relief, because many of the Top Games of 2011 (and probably 2012) were rated M. Last year's top game was Skyrim, followed by Call of Duty Modern Warfare, Mass Effect and others, which wouldn't be sold on the store under the current policy. I don't support this move. Most of their customer base is going to be adults, it's not like they couldn't implement an age system to prevent younger kids from buying/looking at the mature apps.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-11-windows-8-store-wont-allow-pegi-18-rated-games

[billybob476]

Like with many other things, it would be great if they could provide tools to restrict games of higher ratings as opposed to just disallowing them for all.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Like with many other things, it would be great if they could provide tools to restrict games of higher ratings as opposed to just disallowing them for all.

Yeah, and even then, Rated-T games aren't exactly great for kids below age 13 so this setup still doesn't do enough for keeping things appropriate for all audiences. I don't pay attention to ratings anymore (why would I need to) but I have a feeling a large chunk of my games would be considered "inappropriate" according to this App Store.

[X]

OR perhaps this move was one that they decided to do so that Steam and others don't feel as they are being crushed out of the business. I think it's a nice move because it shows that they made a choice not to force out the little guys with their new OS.

[Rico]

Like with many other things, it would be great if they could provide tools to restrict games of higher ratings as opposed to just disallowing them for all.

Don't you need a credit card to buy a game? 

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Like with many other things, it would be great if they could provide tools to restrict games of higher ratings as opposed to just disallowing them for all.

Don't you need a credit card to buy a game? 

Technically yes, but you can now buy money/point cards from Gamestop to buy games from Steam, so that circumvents the credit card requirement I believe. Plus, parents are surprisingly open with giving kids access to their credit cards for whatever reason.

[X]

So, I'm still away in Texas, but I managed to upgrade my laptop to windows 8 and then download and add office to it. I'm really enjoying the way it runs and the simplicity that is IE 10. I went for the full upgrade because Iu wanted to have a clean start.

I will let you know more when I'm done playing with it for a few hours.

[Rico]

So, that's one sale of Win 8.  Do I hear two?  ;)

[billybob476]

Some of the guys at work have purchased upgrade codes for their machines. I know Tom Merritt already upgraded his main work computer. I don't foresee any glaring issues, at the core this is still Windows 7 with some new stuff on top of it.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

http://www.gamefront.com/serious-sam-3-dev-tells-us-why-hes-skipping-windows-8/

This caught my attention today: Serious Sam 3 dev reports that if you make a Metro UI app:

"One cannot release a tiled UI application by any other means, but only through Windows Store!"

You cannot mod Metro apps either. Which for some games on PC would be an inexcusable feature to lack. This is gravely concerning to me.

[X]

http://www.gamefront.com/serious-sam-3-dev-tells-us-why-hes-skipping-windows-8/

This caught my attention today: Serious Sam 3 dev reports that if you make a Metro UI app:

"One cannot release a tiled UI application by any other means, but only through Windows Store!"

You cannot mod Metro apps either. Which for some games on PC would be an inexcusable feature to lack. This is gravely concerning to me.

Yeah, well it sounds like they never actually used the system. YOu can run things as standard applications with no problem. Apps are still mini programs on 8, I don't see why they would need a app for the game at all. Sounds idiotic to me. Sure you can't release a tiled app, but you can make the application itself a tile to launch it even if it's not an app.

That's just fear-mongering and stupidity on his part.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

http://www.gamefront.com/serious-sam-3-dev-tells-us-why-hes-skipping-windows-8/

This caught my attention today: Serious Sam 3 dev reports that if you make a Metro UI app:

"One cannot release a tiled UI application by any other means, but only through Windows Store!"

You cannot mod Metro apps either. Which for some games on PC would be an inexcusable feature to lack. This is gravely concerning to me.

Yeah, well it sounds like they never actually used the system. YOu can run things as standard applications with no problem. Apps are still mini programs on 8, I don't see why they would need a app for the game at all. Sounds idiotic to me. Sure you can't release a tiled app, but you can make the application itself a tile to launch it even if it's not an app.

That's just fear-mongering and stupidity on his part.

His concern is that this is Microsoft wanting to push us into the iOS way of doing things and with a rule like that, I can see why he thinks so. We could see Windows 9 pushing us even further. And as I understand it, you can only sell Metro apps on the Microsoft store. So if this indeed not true, then maybe Microsoft should clarify the rules.

Then again, Microsoft needs to make a lot of things clear. They aren't really telling people the difference between RT and regular 8 or other facts such as the Surface only having 16GBs worth of space and not 32GBs (like advertised) is something that they should be telling people. So yeah...

[Rico]

I'm with Tim on this.  The concerns many are having (especially in the gaming area) is that this new interface is a sign of things to come.  MS is making it clear they seem to want to mimic Apple & iOS.  You can't just write a game for iOS and put it up on your own website and have people use it.  If this closed system trend for Windows continues it could mean Windows becomes more closed off and less open and flexible.  I hope that doesn't ever happen, but I wouldn't count on it staying open at this point.