Red Dawn remake

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Coda

Quote from: Chris-El on November 07, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
Who cares? What fallout was there from the Russians and Cubans being the invaders in the original. It's just not nearly as believable now.

It was a different time back then with the cold war.  I was in high school when that movie came out and making the Soviets look like the bad guys was more generally accepted at the time.

Then again you make a good point.  In this age, it COULD be China....  But maybe they didn't want to offend them and changed them to North Koreans.

QuadShot

Quote from: Chris-El on November 07, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
Who cares? What fallout was there from the Russians and Cubans being the invaders in the original. It's just not nearly as believable now.

The DIFFERENCE is that when the original Red Dawn was released, we didn't do a lot of trade with Soviet Russia did we? We do billions of dollars worth of business with China. It would be akin to a professional athlete trashing a sports product - result would most likely be bad for any possible endorsement deals. I'm pretty positive that if they had left China as the bad guy, it would have been bad economically speaking. And then WHERE would Apple have products build? :)

QuadShot

And to the point that it's completely unbelievable that North Korea could invade the US...why? Why is it inconceivable? I think it's totally within the realm of possibility. I'm quite sure at one point, someone thought "It's not possible for anyone to destroy two very tall buildings, without us stopping them first". I think the likelihood of North Korea doing something is plausible.

Rico

Al, North Korea could not do this - period.  For many reasons.  They lack any real military that could be deployed globally (especially in the air - and to get to us and inside the country they need air power).  They roughly have the money that North Dakota has.  This is not a single terrorist attack, this is a concentrated military attempted take over of the strongest country in the world.  Your comparison to something like 9/11 does not work.  I can easily believe we are very vulnerable still to terrorism - but not a military takeover by a foreign power - and certainly not by impoverished North Korea. 

QuadShot

Rico...it's a movie...And who knows for sure honestly? In this day and age, I think it serious folly to make a statement like, they could not do this period. Sorry, but it IS thinking like that, those who completely dismiss an idea, that creates a lot of trouble.

Bromptonboy

How about making it Venezuela..in the movie they could make a sudden strike at our resurgent oil fields and 'frakking' sites..Iran leaping in to supply more muscle!  Our Monster-truck driving, Budweiser drinkin' Team America teen combatants could be led by Brigadier Woody Harrelson...

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Rico

Quote from: QuadShot on November 08, 2012, 09:15:32 AM
Rico...it's a movie...And who knows for sure honestly? In this day and age, I think it serious folly to make a statement like, they could not do this period. Sorry, but it IS thinking like that, those who completely dismiss an idea, that creates a lot of trouble.

There is nothing folly or wrong about my facts.  Do a little Googling on North Korea.  Trust me, they are no threat.  Yes, it's a movie but when you create a movie about real world events you need to make it plausible. 

ChrisMC

Quote from: Rico on November 08, 2012, 03:40:41 PM
Quote from: QuadShot on November 08, 2012, 09:15:32 AM
Rico...it's a movie...And who knows for sure honestly? In this day and age, I think it serious folly to make a statement like, they could not do this period. Sorry, but it IS thinking like that, those who completely dismiss an idea, that creates a lot of trouble.

There is nothing folly or wrong about my facts.  Do a little Googling on North Korea.  Trust me, they are no threat.  Yes, it's a movie but when you create a movie about real world events you need to make it plausible. 
I am just reminded of the times we were supposed to freak out that North Korea was launching a missile...and it didn't work. So...yeah. Not impressed by them militarily. I AM impressed by their nutty leadership and the fear they evoke in their own people, and South Korea who has the misfortune of sharing that peninsula.

I guess we DO trade a lot with China...(wouldn't mind if it was less, let's face it, manufacturing is nothing in the US thanks mostly to China)I just find it hard to believe that some cruddy movie would unravel it.
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QuadShot

Quote from: Rico on November 08, 2012, 03:40:41 PM
Quote from: QuadShot on November 08, 2012, 09:15:32 AM
Rico...it's a movie...And who knows for sure honestly? In this day and age, I think it serious folly to make a statement like, they could not do this period. Sorry, but it IS thinking like that, those who completely dismiss an idea, that creates a lot of trouble.

There is nothing folly or wrong about my facts.  Do a little Googling on North Korea.  Trust me, they are no threat.  Yes, it's a movie but when you create a movie about real world events you need to make it plausible. 
Sorry, but nothing is certain. Nothing. But you know what? This isn't worth arguing about. It's your birthday, so you win :)

Rico

I actually believe many things are certain in the universe.  So, we will have to agree to disagree then Al.  But when North Korea invades and takes over the good old USA you can certainly say I told you so to me.  :)

QuadShot

Quote from: Rico on November 08, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
I actually believe many things are certain in the universe.  So, we will have to agree to disagree then Al.  But when North Korea invades and takes over the good old USA you can certainly say I told you so to me.  :)
:) I hope I'm wrong buddy...which I generally am but it makes for interesting discussion from time to time! :)

Bryancd

Yeah, the choice to remove China as the antagonist was simply based on the economics. They want the film to have a global appeal and portraying the Chinese as an aggressor nation invading the US would have likely been taken very poorly byu 1/4 of the people living on the Earth. The North Koreans on the other hand, no one likes their government, not even the Chinese. Although i agreee the North Koreans have no means of projecting military influence beyond a their immediate geographic area. I believe their entire Air Force consists of a handful of 40 year old Migs...