Superman Reboot (Man of Steel)

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ChrisMC

Quote from: X on April 17, 2013, 06:36:04 PM
Yeah, Superman is pretty complicated power wise. The Superman before the recent changes in continuity, was powered by the yellow sun of Earth. His body projected a thin aura that allowed for protecting him and his skin tight costume from a lot of damage, cape not so much. In the new DC universe, they are running tests on him and he can was basically bench pressing the weight of the earth for five straight days. As for the flight, Lex once theorized that in order to survive on a heavy gravity world like Krypton, they developed natural anti-gravity organs and can control their own gravitational field to some extent. While this would allow them to function like normal on their home world, it would enable him to fly on other worlds.

However, for this movie I think they are toning down some of the strength. The golden age superman, before the power increases was strong enough to lift a car over his head. The current superman can lift the earth over his head. I'm guessing that this superman will be somewhere near being able to lift with the strength of around 100 to 1000 tons. Any more and he would become too powerful and any less then he couldn't pick up and hurl tanks.

Also, in regards to that last movie, that superman could lift a island with no problems and later incarnations of kryptonite were more radiation poisoning than instant debilitation. From a superman standpoint, none of the rules were broken with that particular act. This was one of the versions that was pretty powerful. However, I would like to point out that lifting a kryptonite island was still more believable and in character than a super memory erasing kiss.
The kiss was only used as a plot device to make up for blowing the wad of turning back time in Superman the Moviee. That ending was always intended to be after the Zod stuff, but after splitting up 1 and 2, they needed an ending for 1. That kiss is dumb, which is why the Donner cut has the world turning again, it was the original ending.

My point about the island is that since Returns was supposed to exist within the continuity of the Donner film(s) it seems sill that he couldn't even lift the Kryptonite NECKLACE over his head and could barely stay above water, and in that movie he lifts an island made of the same stuff. A bit silly. But it was a cool moment.
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X

I get what you're saying, but I saw it as something different. I saw it as Superman pulling one of those feats of strength that you hear that mothers do when trying to save their kid, lifting cars and such. I saw it more of him having that same rush of strength to save the people that he loves. I haven't seen the movie in years, but I was also under the impression that it wasn't true kryptonite, but some knock-off created through the crystal and might not be nearly as effective as the real stuff when push came to shove.

X

Also, you really can't tell me that reversing the spin of the earth to reverse time is more believable than lifting a kryptonite island. =)

ChrisMC

WELLLLL...OK. It's all silly. He's Superman, he does what the writers need at the time. It's funny how I accept, "Yeah he's from Krypton and he's got CRAZY powers....but not THAT much." Starting to see why my wife tunes out when I go on about this stuff.
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Ricardocameron

Quote from: ChrisMC on April 17, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Starting to see why my wife tunes out when I go on about this stuff.
Careful... mine eventually walked out!
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Jobydrone

Quote from: X on April 17, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
Also, you really can't tell me that reversing the spin of the earth to reverse time is more believable than lifting a kryptonite island. =)
I know you're being facetious but I always thought that the whole image of the Earth turning backward was more symbolic and the time travel actually occurred from the tremendous speed he was flying.  Wouldn't reversing the rotation of the Earth kill everyone on the planet?
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Feathers

Yeah, I took the reversal as a sort of 'static observers vision' of the impact of the time reversal rather than the planet actually doing anything physically different. We were simply watching it backwards as we stayed in Superman's continuity and everything else reversed around us.

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ChrisMC

Quote from: Ricardocameron on April 17, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Quote from: ChrisMC on April 17, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Starting to see why my wife tunes out when I go on about this stuff.
Careful... mine eventually walked out!
Oh, she's as big a geek as I am. She just enjoys watching it more than micro-analyzing it.

Quote from: Feathers on April 18, 2013, 01:53:25 AM
Yeah, I took the reversal as a sort of 'static observers vision' of the impact of the time reversal rather than the planet actually doing anything physically different. We were simply watching it backwards as we stayed in Superman's continuity and everything else reversed around us.
Yeah, that's what I always figured. He was doing his own 'slingshot manuever'.
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Meds

I always hated that spinning the Earth backwards, not sure why but as a kid i didnt like it and i still dont. Could be because it was the traumatic death of Lois (suffocating through soil) lol

X

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Quote from: Jobydrone on April 17, 2013, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: X on April 17, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
Also, you really can't tell me that reversing the spin of the earth to reverse time is more believable than lifting a kryptonite island. =)
I know you're being facetious but I always thought that the whole image of the Earth turning backward was more symbolic and the time travel actually occurred from the tremendous speed he was flying.  Wouldn't reversing the rotation of the Earth kill everyone on the planet?
Yeah, it would kill everyone, that's why I find the island more believable. As to traveling back in time ... no, he really reversed time by reversing the spin of the earth, then went back the other way to get time flowing back in the right direction. If he had traveled back in time, he would have met himself in all of the flying. Nothing says look at me like a blur running around the world. If it was time travel then past supes would have had to notice that huge effect.

ChrisMC

Thought this was cute.

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Rico

Funny stuff.  And it's zombie Superman!

WillEagle

I like that post, Chris. I never even thought about that until I saw that.

ChrisMC

Man of Steel - Title Sequence [HD]

Fan-Made Opening sequence...I would not be disappointed at all if this was what the actual movie's opening looked like. Gave me the chills. Watch in HD.
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Praxis

Quote from: ChrisMC on April 25, 2013, 02:17:33 PM
Man of Steel - Title Sequence [HD]

Fan-Made Opening sequence...I would not be disappointed at all if this was what the actual movie's opening looked like. Gave me the chills. Watch in HD.

That's pretty cool. I like it.