Superman Reboot (Man of Steel)

[wraith1701]

The Reeves movies are very dated and it's like asking for the next Spiderman movie to pick up where the Electric Company shorts left off.

LOL C'mon dude. As dated as the first 2 Reeves films might be from a special effects point of view, the quality of the acting and script are by no means inferior to lots of stuff being produced now. In fact, I'd say it tops a lot of the newer superhero films.

. As bad as some people think Returns was, surely you remember Quest of Peace.

Touche. Well played. :)  I'm going to amend my earlier statement by saying we should pretend that everything that happened after Superman 2 never existed. ;)

I don't think that Returns failed by holding on to the Reeves roots, I think the idea was a good one.   Where it failed was in the execution.  The creative team tried to go in two directions at once- they tried to pick up where the other films left off while trying to simultaneously make the film "new" and "Hip" by casting the leads as way too young.  The woman who played Lois struck me as seeming even younger than the Lois from the Smallville show, an issue which was made even more unbelievable by the Son Of Superman retcon. 

I just want to see them get right into it.  No need to do another origin story.  People know who Superman is, where he came from, etc.  Really no need to do that again.  Just get a good story and script and some solid actors. 

^This.  :) Superman is arguably as big a cultural icon as Santa Claus.  Even most non-geeks get the idea- he's a Super-Man.  Give a brief sketch of the whole 'last son of a doomed world' bit and get on with the story.

[Dangelus]

So is the consensus:

1) NO origin story

2) Leads that are not TOO young

3) Don't change the costume

What about villains?

I like the idea that this is a reboot and maybe a Zod story would be good. There's only so many things that can threaten Superman or change his actions. Kryptonite and 'world in peril' have been done to death so my vote is with other super-beings.

I've said it but a Smallville movie (in as much as the origin and backstory comes from the TV show) would work well in my opinion. I'd love to see what they could do with that universe on a big budget.

[Rico]

Yep - good list of points I'd like to see.  I'd like to see a new villain they haven't done in the films - not Lex or Zod.  Maybe Darkseid or someone else as powerful as Superman.

[X]

I just want to see them get right into it.  No need to do another origin story.  People know who Superman is, where he came from, etc.  Really no need to do that again.  Just get a good story and script and some solid actors.  It's kind of too bad Ryan Reynolds is playing Green Lantern, Deadpool and so on.  I could have seen him playing Supes and Clark.  And one with a little more experience behind him.

I totally agree with you that an origin is not necessary or if they feel it's a must, they take from the latest hulk and do it over the opening credits. I think that after that the sky is the limit, but it must distance itself from Christopher Reeves' movie.

I'd be happy if they picked up a few years after the end of Smallvile and have Tom in the suit and an established hero fighting some epic threat.

[X]

So is the consensus:

1) NO origin story

2) Leads that are not TOO young

3) Don't change the costume

What about villains?

I like the idea that this is a reboot and maybe a Zod story would be good. There's only so many things that can threaten Superman or change his actions. Kryptonite and 'world in peril' have been done to death so my vote is with other super-beings.

I've said it but a Smallville movie (in as much as the origin and backstory comes from the TV show) would work well in my opinion. I'd love to see what they could do with that universe on a big budget.

I thought about this and the problem with Superman is that he's superman. Common thugs and humans really shouldn't be a threat to him. Heatbeam Luthor's kryptonite from a distance and move to a real threat.

Superman's problem is has as always been the level of power need to be a threat to Big Blue. Having him against common thugs does a disservice to him. Having him against a villain of his power levels can only be done a few movies at a time.

My best idea would be a trilogy (or six/seven films if we give each of the supermen a movie).

Death of superman with him against doomsday.


Reign of the Supermen - As in the comic, some people coming to claim the title after Supes is dead (Eradicator, Superboy, Steel, and Cyborg Superman) . In the end one of the people claiming to be superman turns out to be the big bad.

Superman Rebirth .. Superman comes back from the dead with the help of the non-bad supermen. Only at a portion of his former power he has to go up against Cyborg Superman with the rest of the Superman crew.


I think that there are only a few villians that would work against Supes:

Bizarro, Zod (but has been done enough), Darkside.

Maybe a Superman tale featuring the New Gods?

[Meds]

X i'm with you. The Death of Superman series was a fantastic comic and if directed well the Doomsday fight would be fantastic.

Bizarro would be great but I think that would only work once the franchise is up and running. I'd also like to see Supergirl turn up.

[Geekyfanboy]

Henry Cavill Officially Cast As Superman
By Garth Franklin Sunday January 30th 2011 11:34AM

It's official - Henry Cavill will play Clark Kent/Superman in the upcoming Zack Snyder-directed "Superman" reboot. British thesp Cavill ("The Tudors," "Whatever Works," "Stardust") previously came close to scoring the role in "Superman Returns" when McG was to direct, but ultimately missed out when Bryan Singer took over and cast Brandon Routh. Here's the press release:

"Warner Bros. Pictures and Legendary Pictures announced today that Henry Cavill has won the coveted role of Superman, the iconic superhero.

The film will be directed by Zack Snyder, who stated, "In the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time, and I am honored to be a part of his return to the big screen. I also join Warner Bros., Legendary and the producers in saying how excited we are about the casting of Henry. He is the perfect choice to don the cape and S shield."

Charles Roven, Emma Thomas, Christopher Nolan and Deborah Snyder are the producers of the film. The screenplay is being written by David S. Goyer based on a story by Goyer and Nolan. Thomas Tull and Lloyd Phillips are serving as executive producers.

Cavill recently wrapped production on "The Cold Light of Day" and stars in the upcoming "Immortals," opening this fall.

Targeted for release in December 2012, the new Superman movie will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company."

[Rico]

Hmmm.....

[Ktrek]

Not quite sure I like this choice as it looks like they are heading down the Brandon Routh way again and choosing someone not very athletic looking. He's a good looking person and a decent actor for sure but is the role of Superman really right for him?

Kevin

[X]

Christopher Reeves wasn't that athletic looking either and he did well in the role.

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Lets hope this goes better than....well, the last reboot...

King

[Jobydrone]

I was hoping for the guy from Mad Men.  He would have been awesome.

[Geekyfanboy]

Not quite sure I like this choice as it looks like they are heading down the Brandon Routh way again and choosing someone not very athletic looking. He's a good looking person and a decent actor for sure but is the role of Superman really right for him?

Kevin

Well he looks pretty athletic to me.... btw this picture is from his upcoming staring roll in "Immortals

[Jobydrone]

He just looks too young to me...this is not Superboy it's SuperMAN

[Rico]

I still would have liked Tom Welling to have gotten a shot at it.  I'd say this guy looks the part pretty well, it will come down to the script, other actors, director, etc.  Superman is very tricky to pull off.  I'm one of the few that enjoyed "Superman Returns."  Two things I'm hoping for:  not an origin story at all, and no Lex Luthor.  Both have been done to death.  They have some talent on board, we'll see if they can pull it off.