iPhone 4G?

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KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: Bryancd on January 11, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on January 11, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
Anyone know if I can take my ATT iPhone4 to Verizon and use it?

I hope not....I want everyone to have to buy a new one!! :)

Just so you guys know, AT&T runs off GSM, Verizon runs off CDMA, you cannot switch services on the same phone.  You have to buy a new phone.

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Bryancd

Quote from: Kingisaaclinksr on January 11, 2011, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on January 11, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on January 11, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
Anyone know if I can take my ATT iPhone4 to Verizon and use it?

I hope not....I want everyone to have to buy a new one!! :)

Just so you guys know, AT&T runs off GSM, Verizon runs off CDMA, you cannot switch services on the same phone.  You have to buy a new phone.

King

That's my understanding as well.

Rico

Yep - that's what I thought too.  Not to mention any plan you have with AT&T will either have to be over or you pay a penalty.

Joby - I'm hoping to get my "tricorder fix" by getting an iPad 2.  I already have a phone.  Plus, I very much like the idea I can just run it via WiFi.  No data plan needed.  :)

QuadShot

Oh...not too concerned with paying ATT to terminate my crappy contract early if we need to.  We have the worst cell service ever! :)

Jobydrone

Can anyone explain the difference between GSM and CDMA or do I have to google
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QuadShot

I believe that GSM networks are more limited than CDMA and not global. Am I close?

KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: QuadShot on January 11, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
I believe that GSM networks are more limited than CDMA and not global. Am I close?

Actually it's the other way around.  CDMA is NOT global, CDMA does not do data and calling at the same time.  I think your putting too much hope on Verizon, I suspect the iPhone will cripple them like it did AT&T

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Jobydrone

Quote from: Rico on January 11, 2011, 11:17:53 AM
Joby - I'm hoping to get my "tricorder fix" by getting an iPad 2.  I already have a phone.  Plus, I very much like the idea I can just run it via WiFi.  No data plan needed.  :)

Yeah I would never buy the 3G version unless it was the same price as the WIFI.  I like the no contract pay as you go monthly model though that is standard for the iPad.  Problem with iPad as tricorder is you can't really carry it on your hip.  
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Feathers

Quote from: QuadShot on January 11, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
I believe that GSM networks are more limited than CDMA and not global. Am I close?

Er... not really ;) As far as I know, Europe is exclsively GSM (well, it is everywhere I've been, anyway), China has it's own variant of CDMA and other bits of the world are mix-&-match to some degree.

That's partly why the Verizon iPhone's so late in coming I believe. Apple's been shipping the GSM model to the whole world so probably hasn't had the capacity to support the more limited market share that CDMA would allow.

I know it's unnusual here but I don't have a podcast of my own.

RickPeete

They specifically said no hybrid CDMA/GSM with the Verizon iPhone.  Just CDMA.  So you are boundmto the USA only.  My guess is that iPhone 5 might come out for both carriers in the summer, supporting 4G.  Maybe AT&T will support the mobile hotspur feature on their 4G offering... Would be nice to know.

Rico

It will be real interesting to see how this competition plays out.  I really can't see AT&T just sitting back if the Verizon plan gives you more for the same money.  Anyway, competition should be good for the consumers.

Feathers

Over here all of the networks give pretty much 'the same for the same' on iPhones. There's some little variation but not enough to make any real difference in choice between providers.

I used to wonder how much of an influence Apple had in all of the plan pricing but since the market was opened to everyone, pretty much nobody has offered a cut-throat deal which makes me think it's just the carriers.

Of course, AT&T seems to have taken a reputation hit with the iPhone so they may feel it necessary to do something startling but the evidence from our market suggests otherwise.

I know it's unnusual here but I don't have a podcast of my own.

Rico

Reports are popping up that iOS v. 4.3 will allow iPhones to create a WiFi hotspot for up to five devices - and not just the upcoming Verizon phones.  As I would have expected, at the end of the day there is going to be little difference in what these plans offer.  It will come down to who is the better phone carrier in your area.  Read on...

Computerworld - All iPhones will reportedly have the Personal Hotspot capability similar to what Verizon Wireless announced Tuesday for its iPhone coming Feb. 10.

Carriers will have to support the feature giving Wi-Fi access to up to five devices. It is not clear how soon the capability would come to AT&T, which had exclusively sold iPhone in the U.S until Verizon's announcement.

The Personal Hotspot feature is enabled in all iPhones in the impending iOS version 4.3, according to a Wednesday posting in Boy Genius Report.

Apple officials could not be reached to comment on the report, but BGR relied on an unnamed source to confirm the existence of the Personal Hotspot capability in iOS 4.3. BGR showed screenshots that included the Personal Hotspot feature under Wi-Fi and Airplane Mode settings in an iPhone interface.

Technical acceptance of the feature is planned for March, meaning Verizon would have a head start on other carriers, including AT&T.

Pricing for Personal Hotspot has not been announced for the Verizon iPhone, although Verizon currently charges $20 a month for 2GB on Wi-Fi connections on its Android phones and through USB and MiFi modems on laptops. Personal Hotspot will connect the Verizon iPhone to up to five Wi-Fi capable devices.

Some analysts say Verizon might combine the cost of its unannounced data fees for the iPhone with the Personal Hotspot capability. One analyst, Rob Enderle at Enderle Group, said the monthly cost for both unlimited data and Personal Hotspot could reach $120 a month on top of voice and texting charges.

A Verizon spokesman on Tuesday said the company will announce all service charges for iPhone later but did not give a date. However, another Verizon spokeswoman said Wednesday that hotspots currently cost $20 monthly for 2GB, adding, "and to my knowledge that won't change."

AT&T could not be reached to comment on when or whether it will support Personal Hotspot in its iPhones, although it supports similar capability on other devices.

Matt Hamblen covers mobile and wireless, smartphones and other handhelds, and wireless networking for Computerworld.


source:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9204738/All_iPhones_reported_to_get_Personal_Hotspot_with_iOS_v._4.3?taxonomyId=12

Jobydrone

I didnt realize this would be an additional charge.  That makes it a no-go for me then.
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KingIsaacLinksr

Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on January 12, 2011, 10:37:03 AM
I didnt realize this would be an additional charge.  That makes it a no-go for me then.

What do you mean additional charge?

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