2010 snowfall...

[Rico]

I agree Chris.  For me, the real point is how we try to limit our impact on the planet, natural resources and so on.  We have recycled for a while and I try to find uses for older things that we have - like donating clothing and passing on old computers, etc.  I'm also thinking of a hybrid for my next car - because these 700+ mile weekends are rough on gas.  In any case, I have a very hard time believing that billions of people, industry and so forth are not impacting the planet in some way.

[Ktrek]

I see a lot of people spouting off about how humans are damaging the planet and yet do very little to pro-actively lower their carbon footprint. The first and probably one of the best solutions in the US would be if most people lived close to where they work. Not 30 to 90 minutes away but within a ten minute drive. Second, reduce the number of electricity wasting devices. I mean do you really need three TV sets and two computers running all the time? How about donating those extra units and living with just one? Try recycling most of the things you throw away. What about your water usage? Do you take a bath or shower every day? Why not save by bathing with your spouse? How about not flushing the toilet after every time you take a piss? Putting water saving faucets on your sinks and shower heads? What about those coffees you buy every day? How about bringing your own cup instead of throwing away that Styrofoam or plastic? How about decreasing your meat consumption so less livestock needs to be raised? The methane they produce is 23 times more effective at retaining heat than C02! How about using recycle bags at the grocery store instead of paper or plastic? Or at least recycle the paper or plastic when you do? Buy what you can in bulk at the local health food store and bring your own containers. Reusable jars and such.

I find there are so many people that say they are concerned about our planet and yet do very little themselves to reduce their own contribution. If you think just recycling your paper and plastic is enough then you are sadly mistaken. Live what you preach. Change your lifestyles!

Kevin

[X]

Good point kevin and I'll be happy to say that I practice what I preach. Here is the short list of what my family does.

Switched all lights to compact florescent.

Gave up driving for mass transit system.

Planted a dozen trees in my father's yard, and 2 dozen shrubs.

Switched to low e washer and dryer

Recycle

Switched to energy star branded televisions. Dropped the surround sound.

Switched to the low water toilets and showerheads.

Compost heap for many of the extra organics leftovers.

Hand washing dishes and rack drying them. No auto dishwasher.

Buy produce from the local farmers market.

We also try to purchase sustainable seafood when possible.

So, since no one else has said what they do in trying to do their part, I really don't see how you can call people out on something you don't know about.

My family has been green before it was a buzz word. We practice what we believe and it doesn't hurt because it's a lifestlye and not a trend for us.

There is also more that we do, but I think I made my point.

[Rico]

I'm not sure what "people are spouting off" that you are referring to Kevin.  I can't speak for others who I don't know.  But I do know many people who are conserving these days - more than ever.  I just do my best to limit my drain on the planet.

[Ktrek]

I'm not sure what "people are spouting off" that you are referring to Kevin.  I can't speak for others who I don't know.  But I do know many people who are conserving these days - more than ever.  I just do my best to limit my drain on the planet.

I didn't say "spouting off" on this board Rico. It is a general observation. ot pointing fingers at anyone here directly. I have found that unlike you and JustX most of the people I have come across that believe in the climate change thing do little to nothing to solve the problem personally. I meant nothing more. If you guys do then that's great but the vast majority of folks out here in the world do not.

Kevin

[Rico]

I'm not sure what "people are spouting off" that you are referring to Kevin.  I can't speak for others who I don't know.  But I do know many people who are conserving these days - more than ever.  I just do my best to limit my drain on the planet.

I didn't say "spouting off" on this board Rico. It is a general observation. ot pointing fingers at anyone here directly. I have found that unlike you and JustX most of the people I have come across that believe in the climate change thing do little to nothing to solve the problem personally. I meant nothing more. If you guys do then that's great but the vast majority of folks out here in the world do not.

Kevin

Just to close this out - hopefully - I didn't think you were talking about us Kevin.  But, I do wonder how a comment can be made about people you don't know?  I was only speaking in regards to myself and my friends and family.

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[Geekyfanboy]

Wow.. that's like the "hotrod" of snow blower...

[Bryancd]

It's a nice conspiracy theory and all, but it makes absolutely no sense when you apply common sense and logic.

Well, hold Chris. It's not a "conspiracy theory, I think to categorize the concept that based on limited data we can draw far reaching conclusions is much more of a theory, in all fairness. Although I agree that anecdotal evidence we can make  about our physical impact on the planet are legitmate, any conclusion drawn from that is still speculative. Just because something might "seem" to make sense doesn't make it so. Having said that, again I am all for lessening human impact upon the planet, we do our best in my home to minimize our contribution to that, but that doesn't make the concept of man made global warming correct, it's the theory that needs to be proved and studies of the planets climate over millions of years indicates many periods or warming and cooling well before man.

[X]

I was more talking about scientists being in it for the money than the validity of the research. For numerous scientist to be working the system for grant money around the world and coming up with similar results implies a conspiricy of some sort. If they are pulling numbers out of their butts, they would have to work together to create matching false data.

[Bryancd]

I was more talking about scientists being in it for the money than the validity of the research. For numerous scientist to be working the system for grant money around the world and coming up with similar results implies a conspiricy of some sort. If they are pulling numbers out of their butts, they would have to work together to create matching false data.

I gotcha and I misunderstood. I thought you meant the concept that man made contribution was NOT the cause of global warming was the conspiracy theory. And I agree the concept of a vast scientific conspiracy is a bit much.

[Bromptonboy]

Didn't he steal that snowblower from Tool Time?  Uhh-uhh-uhhhhhhh!

[spaltor]

If anyone's interested in calculating your carbon footprint, or learning how to lessen it, check out The Nature Conservatory
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/

I'm an 8.8, mostly because I don't drive... ever.
The US average is 27.
The worldwide average is 5.5.

[Ktrek]

I'm a 15 because I drive and I lost points because we consume meat most but not all meals. I also lost points because I took one flight this last year. But that's almost half of the US average. Cool calculator!

Kevin

[moyer777]

I got for our household (4 of us) a 38

[Bryancd]

Oh well, we are a 43, having to each drive 25 miles per day in my old Jeep and Jamie's V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee. We had a boat and needed to tow that and we have two large dogs that travel with us. Jamie flies often for work and we go back east at least 1-2 per year to see family.