Podcast # 348 - "Carbon Creek"

[moyer777]

Thanks man.  It was fun to break it up a bit!

[Redshirt97]

HI Rico, I listend to podcast 348 yesterday.  great podcast as usual.  That was a indeed a great episode of enterprise, i think it may be one of my favorites.  I loved the opening scene where we see Sputnik crossing the path of the Vulcan ship, I thought that was kind of neat.  It was intersresting to see how Vulcan's had contract with humans long before frsist contact in Bozman MT.   My take on that part of Tu"pls  story that it did  happen but perhaps she exzaterated some of the story.  I think that the one Vulcan did stay behind and studied human culture.  but he was latter picked up before official first contact.  I think the Vulcan's were studying and monitoring human culture for a long time and knew when to appear when warp drive was accomplished.  It was like Captin Archer has said all along, the Vulcan know a lot and have been keeping secrets. 

[Poodyglitz]

HI Rico, I listend to podcast 348 yesterday.  great podcast as usual.  That was a indeed a great episode of enterprise, i think it may be one of my favorites.  I loved the opening scene where we see Sputnik crossing the path of the Vulcan ship, I thought that was kind of neat.  It was intersresting to see how Vulcan's had contract with humans long before frsist contact in Bozman MT.   My take on that part of Tu"pls  story that it did  happen but perhaps she exzaterated some of the story.  I think that the one Vulcan did stay behind and studied human culture.  but he was latter picked up before official first contact.  I think the Vulcan's were studying and monitoring human culture for a long time and knew when to appear when warp drive was accomplished.  It was like Captin Archer has said all along, the Vulcan know a lot and have been keeping secrets. 

You bring up an interesting point. There have been other Trek episodes where the Federation sent operatives to observe pre-industrial and pre-warp civilizations, so why wouldn't the Vulcans have done the same thing. Granted their "superior" attitude (as well as their sense of logic), it's conceivable that the Vulcans would keep a great deal of information to themselves. However, for the Vulcans to retrieve Mistral, someone would have had to admit to the deception.

When I first saw the episode, I actually thought that T'Pol could have been T'mir, given her emphasis on the fact that she was telling a story — that added an air of mystery to the tale.

It's the apparent loose ends that add another interesting layer to the episode.

[Redshirt97]

HI Rico, I listend to podcast 348 yesterday.  great podcast as usual.  That was a indeed a great episode of enterprise, i think it may be one of my favorites.  I loved the opening scene where we see Sputnik crossing the path of the Vulcan ship, I thought that was kind of neat.  It was intersresting to see how Vulcan's had contract with humans long before frsist contact in Bozman MT.   My take on that part of Tu"pls  story that it did  happen but perhaps she exzaterated some of the story.  I think that the one Vulcan did stay behind and studied human culture.  but he was latter picked up before official first contact.  I think the Vulcan's were studying and monitoring human culture for a long time and knew when to appear when warp drive was accomplished.  It was like Captin Archer has said all along, the Vulcan know a lot and have been keeping secrets. 

You bring up an interesting point. There have been other Trek episodes where the Federation sent operatives to observe pre-industrial and pre-warp civilizations, so why wouldn't the Vulcans have done the same thing. Granted their "superior" attitude (as well as their sense of logic), it's conceivable that the Vulcans would keep a great deal of information to themselves. However, for the Vulcans to retrieve Mistral, someone would have had to admit to the deception.

When I first saw the episode, I actually thought that T'Pol could have been T'mir, given her emphasis on the fact that she was telling a story — that added an air of mystery to the tale.

It's the apparent loose ends that add another interesting layer to the episode.

  Yes I spoouse it could have been T'pol had acculay been there but how old do vulcan live?  but surly it was an ancestior like she said in the story.  but the part of mistral living on earth for a long while thur the last half of the the 20th centery was intruing to me.  He would have withness a lot of history and many sciitific developments thur out the years.  What kind of friends with the humans would he have made?  Did he ever tell anyone who he was and where he was from.  if so who?

[Poodyglitz]

I got to the point where I settled on believing that it was truly T'Pol's ancestress and that it was merely an episode to feature Jolene Blalock and Vulcans. The Mistral story is one that we're going to have to tell in our imaginations. Perhaps someone will write fan fiction on it, if they haven't done so already. :-)

[Redshirt97]

I got to the point where I settled on believing that it was truly T'Pol's ancestress and that it was merely an episode to feature Jolene Blalock and Vulcans. The Mistral story is one that we're going to have to tell in our imaginations. Perhaps someone will write fan fiction on it, if they haven't done so already. :-)

Yes i think so here,  the mistral part of the story is indeed somthing to leave to the imagaination.   Fan fiction sounds like an intersting idea too.

[LoneSpar]

I Love this Episode!!!  Thanks Rico for reviewing it!!!!!