New season starts tonight for this cool show that FOX somehow didn't cancel. Preview and some pics below. Looking good!
Dollhouse: 1st official FOX Trailer For Season Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rfb3vrRHA8#)
Anyone watch last night's episode yet? Very cool start. Lots of new stuff going on - plus we got to see two BSG guys together again. So glad we are getting more of Amy Acker's character. Lots to discuss once more of you chime in on this.
No one else watch this yet?
It's not even on the horizon over here yet (as far as I know).
got it on the dvr, but trying to catch up with all the other premieres this week
Didn't care for the second episode of the season as much as the first. Some of the characters just seem a bit off this year - like Topher. He seems even a bit more too much on an ego trip - which seems odd since things keep going wrong with his "actives." Still an ok show and I'll continue to watch but I think the writing needs to step up a bit on some of these.
I'll still catch it whenever it airs. We've now reached the point where it's 'Coming Soon' on Sci-Fi.
How did I survive for all those years without Sky!
Same ghere Rico, I liked the first episode, second was a bit less interesting. Can't say really have an issue with Topher, I really like the back and forth between him and the doc, that was some pretty powerful stuff.
The whole Echo/maternal instinct thing was ok, but it didn't really sit well with me. The idea was nice but I guess the execution was a bit 'meh'.
Topher just seems a bit more "out-there" this season to me. I like him still, but he seems changed somehow.
Ep 3 Oh boy, they should call this season Battlestar Dollhouse! Sol Ty is on this one.
Liked this one a lot better then last week's. Very cool episode.
That last episode was pretty wild and I enjoyed it. But one thing is starting to bug me a little about the series. Every week it seems things go really wrong on the missions. Echo is out of control and they just keep sending her out there. Maybe they don't realize it, but it seems like they should. I guess it just doesn't add up for me. I'm enjoying the show and love Eliza as all the various characters (especially this last episode). And Victor was great in this past episode too. But the "Dollhouse" just seems to be really not working well right now. Anyway - just my thoughts.
Ya, I know what you mean. It's hard though because I really do like the show and want to to do well but it's not looking good. I listen to a dollhouse podcast and they said that the ratings for the first couple episodes have been really low, like 2 million viewers. Apparently this Fridays show is supposed to be a good one, maybe it'll be like last season. It didn't get good until ep 4. I also heard that we are going to get another episode set in the "Epitaph" future timeline??
Maybe when Summer G shows up she will kick things into high gear!!!
They just seem a little direction-less right now. I know Joss tends to drop in little things and hints and then it all comes together later on. Like where did Dr. Saunders go off to? I do hope the season starts to come together a bit more. If the ratings are not that good it might not even last for a full second season. Hopefully Summer will generate some new interest.
It's hot in here, it must be Summer.
Quote from: Rico on October 14, 2009, 07:03:59 AM
They just seem a little direction-less right now. I know Joss tends to drop in little things and hints and then it all comes together later on. Like where did Dr. Saunders go off to? I do hope the season starts to come together a bit more. If the ratings are not that good it might not even last for a full second season. Hopefully Summer will generate some new interest.
I thought her leaving the dollhouse was her leaving the show. I haven't really looked for something more plot wise. I like this show, but it's not something that I am rushing to see each week and I think that's the issue. With so much stuff happening, you have to be better than good to make it. Being just a good show isn't cutting it anymore.
Finally! Dollhouse Season 2 starts with two back-to-back episodes on Tue 20th October on Sci-Fi (just after Warehouse 13).
Info on Amy Acker. It seems the actor had to leave for another series called "Happy Town." But she will be in a couple more episodes this season. Read on...
Another interview from the conference call with Joss Whedon last week, this time courtesey of SciFiChick; the extracts featuring Amy are posted below.
Is Dr. Saunders going to factor in a little more in the season?
Dr. Saunders would factor in much more in the season had we not lost her to another show. She will factor inasmuch as we are allowed to factor her in, which is exactly three episodes worth. They will, however, be three extraordinarily memorable episodes.
Amy Acker is ridiculously talented and the character's dilemma is fascinating to us. We grit our teeth that we didn't have the funds, or the support, or the success, to just make her a regular and now we're paying for it. It means that every time we have her on screen, we'll squeeze every drop out of her that we can. We're seizing the day. We just don't get to seize as many of them as we'd like.
With Amy Acker gone, are we going to get a new doctor character to tend to the wounded?
We haven't featured the doctor. We see somebody in the BG. We will be seeing Dr. Saunders again and the stories just haven't lent themselves to bringing in another person in that capacity. So if we need to, yes, but not so far.
source:
http://www.amy-acker.org/page/2/ (http://www.amy-acker.org/page/2/)
A couple of pictures of Summer Glau on "Dollhouse."
Good News! Fox has said that they are going to show all episodes for this season. So don't give up on it yet. Sounds like some of the baseball playoffs will interfere on a few friday nights.
Fox also said they are pulling Dollhouse for the month of November during sweeps.. it will be back in December.. not a vote of confidence if you ask me. :(
The Friday night slot is hurting the show. Does FOX never learn? I do hope if season two is all we get that Joss gets chance to sort of wrap things up to a degree.
Ok, really enjoyed last night's episode. Season 2 is starting to get rolling now. I like what they're doing with Echo and I am really starting to like what's going on with Topher.
Also, if anyone missed it, the ep was directed by our favorite number one, johnathan frakes.
Last night's episode was really strong. All of the scenes with Victor and Sierra made me tear up a bit. Also a good job for J. Frakes's direction. :)
I loved yesterday's episode. I can't even put into word what I liked about it, just the relationships and character development with Topher and Sierra, Victor, Boyd. It was just such a powerful episode. My favorite episode so far this season.
I enjoyed last nights episode and I'd be the last person to criticize a Joss show but If you haven't been watching religiously I think you might have been confused. My wife and I haven't missed an ep and we even found it a little hard to determine if they were in the present or the past.
It was strong show though. Its great seeing Topher progress especially since we know what he's like in Epitaph 1.
No Ballard?
I'm a bit torn on the most recent episode. Some strong, powerful stuff but man these people are messed up. Lots of new information and I like the little details we are getting but I did miss Ballard. Nice to see Sierra get some more time in the spotlight. Sorry we don't get a new show until early December now.
I heard that they are going to be airing double episodes for the first 3 weeks of Dec! I've never heard of a show doing that before, I wonder how it will affect the ratings. I guess there is nowhere to go but up,,, I hope.
Just caught up on the first two and my opinions are pretty much on par with the concensus. The first was interesting and it was nice to see Ballard getting involved in the way he did. The second did very little for me at all, again except for the Ballard/Echo scene at the end pusing that story forward.
This show seems to sit behind the others on the DVR at the moment in that I try and watch the rest as they come up but this one seems to wait until I get round to it.
Does anyone know if tonight's is the one with Summer?
No more Dollhouse till Dec thanks to crumby ratings and the sweeps.
Quote from: Serenity on October 30, 2009, 09:37:30 AM
No more Dollhouse till Dec thanks to crumby ratings and the sweeps.
Yeah, we've been talking about that. Too bad since they are bringing Summer Glau in now too. Poor Summer, she is becoming like Nathan Fillion on doomed TV shows.
How many have you actually seen?
I think we've got the fourth episode being broadcast this week.
Yeah, I think we have had about 4 episodes here too.
Watched three last night so I'm just about caught up
[spoiler]Does anyone else think it might be a bit of a stretch to have Ballard switch off the life support stuff for the serial killer guy? Given that he's so recently out of the FBI, wouldn't he still have a few of his 'official' scruples?
Not sure about personalities jumping host either although the technobabble had enough in there that I'm willing to accept the explanation. I just hope they don't use it too often. I also hope to see some comeback from the client who was just stabbed in the neck.
...and Victor as a female student really shouldn't have been allowed! Scary!
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Quote from: Rico on November 02, 2009, 08:59:13 AM
Yeah, I think we have had about 4 episodes here too.
Nothing scheduled next week - we'll have to wait for you to get back on track before we see any more I suspect.
Sorry all you Dollhouse fans.. but it just was cancelled.. trying to find out more info.
Fox cancels 'Dollhouse'
By Nellie Andreeva
The network has canceled Joss Whedon's cult fave, which in May beat the odds with a second-season pickup despite low ratings.
The sci-fi series, which is filming episode 11, is expected to finish its 13-episode order, and Whedon is expected to give the show a proper ending.
"Yes. Canceled. Sad but true," tweeted Maurissa Tancharoen, a writer on "Dollhouse" who is married to Whedon's brother Jed Whedon, also a writer on the show.
After some dismal performance this fall, despite the ratings bumps "Dollhouse" got from DVR viewing, Fox benched the show for the November sweep after four episodes.
For now, Fox is expected to air the remaining episodes starting Dec. 4 as planned.
"Dollhouse" stars Eliza Dushku as a DNA-altered woman who gets implanted false memories for various missions and tasks.
Fox already has picked up breakout freshman dramedy "Glee" for a full season. Freshman comedy "Brothers" is still awaiting its fate but its chances don't look good, while sophomore drama "Lie to Me" is waiting for an episodic order after receiving an order for three additional scripts last month.
Not surprising at all. But at least Joss has time to do an ending for the series.
This is the same network that killed Firefly and Tru Calling. I honestly didn't expect it to last as long as it has. I think it would have thrived on the CW and was weary when Fox offered to pick it up. My only hope is that there might be some folks from his old Angel and Buffy days there that can give it a home.
I'm still surprised it ever reached a second season. It seems that most stuff has a limited run these days.
What's with the DNA-altered bit in the press release anyway?
Gee does that ever SUCK!!! I did enjoy the series. I wonder what Joss will get up to next? I've been hearing rumblings of a Dr Horrible 2 and I guess that Cabin in the Woods movie.
Having just caught up, I thought the last one was quite good. A bit of Sierra backstory (although only in the sense of her manipulation by the Doctor guy) and a little insight into how else the house gets its 'volunteers'.
It still all seems very bitty and standalone this year, though. I don't get the sense of anything like the whole Ballard thread we had running through season one.
As much as I am disappointed by Dollhouse being cancelled I know that Joss has stated that if Dollhouse was cancelled then he'd more focus on online media and doing a Dr. Horrible sequel. He said he would either be to busy with Dollhouse or it would be cancelled and he'd have plenty a time.
But sad and dreary news none the less.
Sorry about Dollhouse - it's been one of my regulars, but Hooray for Glee! Not many shows on the tube about music!
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I meant to say in my last post that I liked the fact that even Topher finds he has limits sometimes.
Assuming this season goes as last, we have the best yet to come (even though, as I said before, there's no sign of it yet) but to know that it them just dies...I think I can maintain focus long enough to watch the rest of the season but it's not guaranteed now :(
I wonder if we are going to get another episode with Felicia Day, Epitaph 1 style. I think we were supposed to see another in second season? Maybe Kenny could shed some light on that one??
Bah! You may be getting it back with double episodes in December but I've just seen that SciFi over here aren't bringing it back until January. Not fair!
They have been really advertising Dollhouse's final episodes on Fox with their commercials.
I'm surprised that they would even bother after its been canned!!!
Can't wait to see Summer G tonight!!!
Wow!!! Those were 2 great episodes!!!
[spoiler]Gotta love the whole "disrupter" you know TOS thing. Topher is a wicked character.
I really gotta hand it to the actor that plays Victor. Him imprinted with Topher was priceless. All his mannerism's were bang on.
Summer was perfectly evil and messed up. [/spoiler]
It's such a bummer that more people didn't watch Dollhouse, it kinda weird watching a cancelled show that still on TV.
Loved this recent 2 hours of "Dollhouse" a lot. Great stuff and great new characters.
[spoiler]Summer Glau was perfectly creepy and evil and Victor as Topher was awesome! Glad it looks like Joss is pulling out the stops and going out with a bang.[/spoiler]
2 more hours next week too!
WOW! This next 2 hours has been great too. They are really doing some cool stuff on the show. For those who have been watching, stick with it. Even though it will be gone after this season, Joss and everyone are really doing some amazing stuff! Really, really awesome!
Its such a shame that brilliant shows like this get cancelled while so much junk is on TV.
I love all the twists and turns. Joss is so predictably unpredictable!!!
As I said above, it's promised to return in January over here but from the sound of it, is well worth watching when it does get back.
As I'm now in the middle of watching BSG for the first time, however, I'm going to have serious Ballard/Helo issues when it does get here!
Thought this was fun. Dollhouse credits - Buffy style.
Dollhouse opening Buffy style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3zPiSzRY6U#)
That's so cool! I love "Dollhouse" so much - especially this season.
Quote from: Serenity on December 12, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Its such a shame that brilliant shows like this get cancelled while so much junk is on TV.
I love all the twists and turns. Joss is so predictably unpredictable!!!
I'm going to have to disagree with you here on the cancellation. This show has been given more than enough time to shine and it's unfortunate that they saved the best for last. Had the level of show been as good as when they started doing the two hour blocks, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been canceled. This has less to do with the network and more to do with it being a chore to watch some of those earlier episodes.
While agree some of the earlier episodes were not the best, I still feel the show is one of the most unique and different series on the air. And frankly that's what ultimately did it in (plus that nasty Friday night time slot). I agree it was given a fair shot to get ratings, I just wish we could get more of this type of program rather than more mind-numbing "reality TV." I'll take even the early episodes of "Dollhouse" any day over many other shows.
Quote from: Rico on December 27, 2009, 02:11:45 PM
While agree some of the earlier episodes were not the best, I still feel the show is one of the most unique and different series on the air. And frankly that's what ultimately did it in (plus that nasty Friday night time slot). I agree it was given a fair shot to get ratings, I just wish we could get more of this type of program rather than more mind-numbing "reality TV." I'll take even the early episodes of "Dollhouse" any day over many other shows.
I agree with this, but I can't help but think that Joss, while hitting WB numbers, didn't really hit numbers for the big 3. I'm pretty sure that none of his shows would survive long on the big three and that it might have been better if he tried cable or even syndication. As much as I and many of those here love the work of Joss, we're a small demo and not the one that they are looking for on Fox.
Wow - quite a cool new episode last night. I like how everyone is "pretty much" working together now. Some really interesting moments and quite a few shockers. Only two episodes left!
Last night's episode blew my mind! I'm pretty much speechless. [spoiler]The biggest surprise was definitely the realization that Boyd is the head of Rossum! I'm so used to Joss having a distinct character that serves as the patriarch of the make-shift family of his shows and Boyd seemed to serve that trope. And now it's like Dollhouse just destroyed that image and put me in shock. Well played, Team Dollhouse. Well played. :)[/spoiler] And I think I have a tiny crush on Fran Kranz as Topher. ;)
While this is not a spoiler, I thought I would hide my speculations because they contain information from last night.
[spoiler] I think that Boyd isn't the bad guy. I think that the people that were initially investing in the company used took it over and have been corrupting the technology. I think that Boyd needed Echo to see if they could build a better brain that would not be subject or that could recover from the more negative effects of the technology. They needed someone that could survive taking any imprint and still be around. For lack of a better word, they needed an echo. Something that would come back even after the source was gone. [/spoiler]
Just awesome!! Can't wait to see what Joss has got up his sleeve.
Quite a group of final episodes, and last night's finale was very good. A fitting way to end the series. Again, Joss was ahead of his time and I predict "Dollhouse" will gain a following like "Firefly" did in the coming years. Really, a great series and some amazing performances.
The back end to the season has just started over here (OK, three weeks ago but I've only just seen the first one).
Very interesting stuff is all I can say. If the rest plough on at this pace it's going to be quite an intense season end. I could also wish that they'd all played out this way.
You are in for some great episodes Mike.
I do hope so :)
I don't think this Dollhouse will ever gain a cult following. There are just too many episodes that you could do without. Another problem I had was the ending. Unless you bought the DVDs, you had no real clue what any of that was about and it took my wife, who had watched every episode on tv, out of it a I had to explain who people were and what they were doing.
I really don't think it was the smartest move for a finale. It might have rewarded the fans that bought the DVDs, but it sort of shafted the fans that were there week to week for every episode.
I assume the ending relate to Epitaph I in some way then? If that's the case then I agree that you're in an interesting position in the US in that it was straight to DVD. Internationally, however, (or at least over here) it aired along with the rest of the 1st season so the folks who've watched week by week should have seen it.
Wow! I see what people mean about Victor playing Topher!
Whoever that actor is, he'n not being paid enough on this show!
Quote from: Feathers on February 05, 2010, 05:16:16 AM
Wow! I see what people mean about Victor playing Topher!
Whoever that actor is, he'n not being paid enough on this show!
Yep - more to come too. ;)
Dollhouse has been gone from television for several months now, but as a special surprise as some of the cast and crew (including Maurissa Tancharoen, Fran Kranz and Dichen Lachman) have gotten together to give us another gem. The song, "Remains", from the season one finale "Epitaph One" now has an official music video. Unless I'm wrong this is also a hidden Easter egg on the season 2 dvd just released today. Enjoy.
Remains - Official Music Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNtORr6RsJ4#ws)
So, I missed Dollhouse when it was airing somehow, and just finished watching the whole series (thank you, Netflix streaming). WOW! What a great show! I'd heard that it was probably the most cerebral of Joss's shows, and it got really, really interesting. I'm glad they let him wrap up the story (although there was probably a lot more to tell) after it was clear that the show was being canceled.
Yep - awesome series. Really ahead of it's time I think. There is a comic book series starting up soon and I think Joss is involved in the comic to some degree like he was with the Buffy comic.
In hindsight (if I haven't already said this) I think it started off a little slower than it might have done. The few standalone stories at the front end of season one probably didn't do it any favours in terms of grabbing numbers. Later on, however...is there a chance it got too clever for a mainstream audience?