BREAKING: Paramount Moving Forward On Star Trek Sequel - Supreme Court On Board March 30, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Paramount, ST09 Creative, Star Trek (2009 film), Star Trek sequel (2011) , trackback
First hinted at here at TrekMovie last June, Paramount have finally sealed the deal for the Trek's 'Supreme Court' to move forward on a sequel to their new Star Trek, five weeks before it even opens up. Variety broke the news Monday night, see below for the first details on the new Star Trek movie.
Get Ready for another Star Trek in 2011
Here are the facts from the Variety report:
* All five "Supreme Court" members back as producers: JJ Abrams, Bryan Burk, Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman, and Damon Lindelof
* Script to be written by Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof (story in 'embryonic' stage)
* JJ could possibly direct, no decision yet
* Script to be delivered by Christmas 2009 for a possible Summer 2011 release
This is essentially the same set up as the first deal back in 2006 for the current film. Abrams did not sign on as director for the film until early 2007. The only difference is that Lindelof (an Emmy winning writer) is now also listed as screenwriter. However, in previous interviews with both Lindelof and the writers, it has been indicated that Damon worked closely with the writers as they were working on the script.
Lindelof is quoted in the Variety article:
There's obviously a lot of hubris involved in signing on to write a sequel of a movie that hasn't even come out yet. But we're so excited about the first one that we wanted to proceed.
Kurztman is also quoted on possible storylines:
Obviously we discussed ideas, but we are waiting to see how audiences respond next month. With a franchise rebirth, the first movie has to be about origin. But with a second, you have the opportunity to explore incredibly exciting things. We'll be ambitious about what we'll do.
Huge vote of confidence
There can be no greater indicator that Paramount believe they have a winner on their hand and they want to make sure they have the same team in place. Paramount has been pushing to get two-year gaps between the Iron Man (2008 & 2010) Transformers (2007, 2009 and possibly 2011), and so it makes sense foe them to want to do the same with Trek. It has been previously reported that all all the main cast have options for two sequels, so with the Supreme Court tied down, Paramount is ready to go.
One caveat, signing a deal to get a script is not the same thing as giving a film a green light. Obviously the performance of the new Star Trek film will be a major factor in how to proceed with a sequel. However, studio sources have been indicating to TrekMovie for quite a while that a sequel was always assumed and some feel that (like with the recent Batman relaunch), the follow-up film can be even bigger.
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Wow!
Now that we are nearly there on movie number 1, we can have another two years to discuss / speculate on movie number 2! This is a geek's dream! ;D
Want to see one before talking about two :)
If the coming movie is a success, there has never been any doubt they will do another. One of the sad things about this though is it makes seeing a movie involving members of TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, etc. fairly unlikely. There are also some little things that I won't mention until after May 8th that may bother some involving the course of this new movie series. Time will tell what happens with it all.
Quote from: Rico on March 31, 2009, 05:01:26 AM
If the coming movie is a success, there has never been any doubt they will do another. One of the sad things about this though is it makes seeing a movie involving members of TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, etc. fairly unlikely. There are also some little things that I won't mention until after May 8th that may bother some involving the course of this new movie series. Time will tell what happens with it all.
I never held out any hope that they would be doing any movies for those series anymore after Nemesis. I'm not seeing any problem let and you should throw your concerns up in a spoiler bracket. I'm curious to see what you are thinking.
It's not really a spoiler in my view - but here is what I am thinking....
[spoiler]It is becoming clear from the trailers that they are pretty much rewriting early Trek history - specifically the early TOS era. Now, I've said many times I'm pretty ok with this, however if they continue this era and movie series I'm very curious how they reconcile that with all the Trek that has happened before. For example, a very young, green Kirk appears to be in command of the Enterprise in the trailer for some period of time. Will Starfleet leave him there? It would seem odd if they did. Anyway, much of this is guess work and conjecture right now. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited by this new adventure. But I'm wondering how it's going to all play out.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Rico on March 31, 2009, 08:26:03 AM
It's not really a spoiler in my view - but here is what I am thinking....
[spoiler]It is becoming clear from the trailers that they are pretty much rewriting early Trek history - specifically the early TOS era. Now, I've said many times I'm pretty ok with this, however if they continue this era and movie series I'm very curious how they reconcile that with all the Trek that has happened before. For example, a very young, green Kirk appears to be in command of the Enterprise in the trailer for some period of time. Will Starfleet leave him there? It would seem odd if they did. Anyway, much of this is guess work and conjecture right now. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited by this new adventure. But I'm wondering how it's going to all play out.[/spoiler]
[spoiler] I got the same feeling and I think in my head that the universe and timeline will change. I don't think it will change that much, but I think that Kirk would be a stronger captain from it. Unlike the cadet that got control of the Valiant in DS9 and let the power go to his head. Maybe they decide to fast track him and he's more known, not for cheating on the Kubashi Maru, but for being the youngest Captain in Starfleet and surpassing his father's legacy. He might have even had a better death than generations and became even closer to Spock. Hopefully they have some novels for it too. In the end, I can accept it because I see the movie as a descendant of Enterprise and from that timeline created after the First Contact incident. If that makes any sense.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Just X on March 31, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
In the end, I can accept it because I see the movie as a descendant of Enterprise and from that timeline created after the First Contact incident. If that makes any sense
Makes perfect sense.
I had this conversation with Jen the other day, I think "we" as fans sometimes mess things up for ourselves because we get too obsessed with timelines and cannon, when what we should be concerned about is a good story and whatever the heck it takes to keep Star Trek going.
I'm with X on this. [spoiler]As far as I'm concerned, each time we see time travel, alternate timelines are created. Some of those timelines might veer far from what we know of as Trek history, others might not veer as much. For now, I'm fine with the idea that this film will mean an alternate history to the timeline we are familiar with, as long as it doesn't veer too far off track. After all, It would be kind of boring to see exact remakes of all of the incidents already covered by the existing TV shows and films.
I take comfort from the belief that this new timeline isn't the ONLY timeline, but just one of many. I like to believe that the TOS and TNG era timeline remains intact; just in another reality. Put another way, this new film represents the start of a new Trek set in an alternate universe to the Trek we remember. [/spoiler] Like Nero said; "...That was a different life."
Until I actually see the new movie I'm going to reserve judgment as to whether this is good news or not. I am encouraged by it but mass market appeal of the product will likely mean the product is severely watered down to appeal to anyone and the "soul" of Star Trek may be lost in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and box office success.
Kevin
Quote from: Ktrek on March 31, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
Until I actually see the new movie I'm going to reserve judgment as to whether this is good news or not. I am encouraged by it but mass market appeal of the product will likely mean the product is severely watered down to appeal to anyone and the "soul" of Star Trek may be lost in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and box office success.
Kevin
I think that it all depends on how you define the "soul" of star trek. Is it City on the Edge of forever or Spock's Brain? Is it Dark Horizion or Threshold.
Quote from: Just X on March 31, 2009, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Ktrek on March 31, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
Until I actually see the new movie I'm going to reserve judgment as to whether this is good news or not. I am encouraged by it but mass market appeal of the product will likely mean the product is severely watered down to appeal to anyone and the "soul" of Star Trek may be lost in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and box office success.
Kevin
I think that it all depends on how you define the "soul" of star trek. Is it City on the Edge of forever or Spock's Brain? Is it Dark Horizion or Threshold.
Definitely Spock's Brain. :)
I'm just seeing this all as mirror universe Star Trek. For me, quintessential Trek is somewhere in the vicinity of "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", "City On The Edge Of Forever", "The Cloud Minders" and (dare I say?) "Darmok".
Quote from: Darmok on April 01, 2009, 06:17:50 AM
I'm just seeing this all as mirror universe Star Trek. For me, quintessential Trek is somewhere in the vicinity of "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", "City On The Edge Of Forever", "The Cloud Minders" and (dare I say?) "Darmok".
I'm taking this movie as I do every trek series and every movie before it. Some of them are great, but then there are also some not so great things.
In the end it comes down to one thing. The death and resurrection of Spock. If I can still enjoy watching where Spock dies knowing full well that he's back the next movie and the death is technically meaningless, then why should I care if the trek universe changes and allows for more trek. That won't tarnish my view of the things that I saw before and only stimulate my imagination in wondering how it might happen again after the movie.
Well, the big question for me still is --- Will they explain things in the movie or will we just be handed this "new take" and that's that? In all the previous Trek, time travel, rebirth, altered timelines, etc. they tried to make it all work in some way. I'm just wondering if they will try to do that in the new movie - or not.
The thing that irks me about this movie is that it smacks of "Nemesis" and the temporal cold war aspect of "Enterprise". Being face to face with a Romulan doesn't happen until "Balance Of Terror"...or am I being to much of a geek?
Like we have all been saying, this film will change a lot of what we have known before.
Quote from: Darmok on April 01, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
The thing that irks me about this movie is that it smacks of "Nemesis" and the temporal cold war aspect of "Enterprise". Being face to face with a Romulan doesn't happen until "Balance Of Terror"...or am I being to much of a geek?
You're not being geek enough and factoring in time travel altering the past. I'm sure that there were no Federation officers in the 1960's but then Kirk and crew changed that several times.
This is also probably why Cali was nice and sunny with no signs of a Eugenics War when Voyager went back in time. Time travel changes the rules and First Contact is responsible for that. Enterprise exists because Picard chased the Borg back in time. The spacemen from the future line and the presence of the Borg years earlier than expected were big clues that the time line was changed. This doesn't smake of anything to me but a snow ball growing larger.
You go from the future to change the past ... you fix the problem, but you being there changes the past away ... Enterprise and the NX-01's design is a direct result of some people in the past becoming aware of things from the future. This creates and grows to the timeline that becomes this new movie ... Kirk still makes a name for himself ... and Nero goes back to do his bad guy thing ... the look of the ship is changed because design sensibilities were changed from the effect of First Contact. Now someone from this new future goes back and starts the events that will become the new movie.
Quote from: Just X on April 01, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
You're not being geek enough and factoring in time travel altering the past. I'm sure that there were no Federation officers in the 1960's but then Kirk and crew changed that several times.
This is also probably why Cali was nice and sunny with no signs of a Eugenics War when Voyager went back in time. Time travel changes the rules and First Contact is responsible for that. Enterprise exists because Picard chased the Borg back in time. The spacemen from the future line and the presence of the Borg years earlier than expected were big clues that the time line was changed. This doesn't smake of anything to me but a snow ball growing larger.
You go from the future to change the past ... you fix the problem, but you being there changes the past away ... Enterprise and the NX-01's design is a direct result of some people in the past becoming aware of things from the future. This creates and grows to the timeline that becomes this new movie ... Kirk still makes a name for himself ... and Nero goes back to do his bad guy thing ... the look of the ship is changed because design sensibilities were changed from the effect of First Contact. Now someone from this new future goes back and starts the events that will become the new movie.
Very well said. I have been saying that I really don't care about the chronology and cannon as long as we get more Trek. But your line of reasoning works. They're not
changing the events of Star Trek history so much as
exploring the effects that the other movies and shows depictions of time travel have had on the Trek universe.
I love it. Just X, you're my Geek God of the Week. :Bow:
Yeah, that's my weird brain and it having adapted that time isn't linear. There is one new theory that is circulating now that suggests that time doesn't exist and all things are happening at the same time. Einstein's own theories about time makes it subjective and different depending on your speed and location. I figure that if we can get our heads around that and allow time travel to exist in our fantasy, then it makes sense that every trip in time changes something and we then get to look and experience those changes.
For me, this isn't changing Trek history, it's playing by the rules that Gene set up in allowing the future to affect the past. This new movie is just the results of some of that.
Let's just chalk it up as a wibbly-wobbly timey-whimey type thing.
Maybe I'm just missing my fob watch.
Quote from: Just X on April 01, 2009, 12:36:14 PM
Yeah, that's my weird brain and it having adapted that time isn't linear. There is one new theory that is circulating now that suggests that time doesn't exist and all things are happening at the same time. Einstein's own theories about time makes it subjective and different depending on your speed and location. I figure that if we can get our heads around that and allow time travel to exist in our fantasy, then it makes sense that every trip in time changes something and we then get to look and experience those changes.
Reading your first paragraph I was going to reply, "Yeah, according to Doctor Who, 'Most people think of time as a straight line, progressing from cause to effect. But it's really more of a bubble of... wibbly, wobbly... timey, whimey... stuff...'." And then you went there...
If I'd known that Time Lords hung out in this forum, I'd have been here long before now. Or maybe I am here long before now?
Quote from: Just X on April 01, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Darmok on April 01, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
The thing that irks me about this movie is that it smacks of "Nemesis" and the temporal cold war aspect of "Enterprise". Being face to face with a Romulan doesn't happen until "Balance Of Terror"...or am I being to much of a geek?
You're not being geek enough and factoring in time travel altering the past. I'm sure that there were no Federation officers in the 1960's but then Kirk and crew changed that several times.
This is also probably why Cali was nice and sunny with no signs of a Eugenics War when Voyager went back in time. Time travel changes the rules and First Contact is responsible for that. Enterprise exists because Picard chased the Borg back in time. The spacemen from the future line and the presence of the Borg years earlier than expected were big clues that the time line was changed. This doesn't smake of anything to me but a snow ball growing larger.
You go from the future to change the past ... you fix the problem, but you being there changes the past away ... Enterprise and the NX-01's design is a direct result of some people in the past becoming aware of things from the future. This creates and grows to the timeline that becomes this new movie ... Kirk still makes a name for himself ... and Nero goes back to do his bad guy thing ... the look of the ship is changed because design sensibilities were changed from the effect of First Contact. Now someone from this new future goes back and starts the events that will become the new movie.
I like your thinking. It opens up the possibility that Nero's presence in the past creates the opportunity for "Insurrection" and "Nemesis" to be transformed into good movies or erased from the timeline.
Perhaps if the movie is successful, we'll see a Saturday morning cartoon called "Star Trek Babies". :)
Quote from: Darmok on April 01, 2009, 01:04:11 PM
Perhaps if the movie is successful, we'll see a Saturday morning cartoon called "Star Trek Babies". :)
I can see it now... "These are the voyages of the Starship Muppetprise..." with Worf, Worf the Klingon, on piano...
(Oh lord, I hope someone gets this joke... :unsure)
Wow, I killed the thread. Sorry... :eekout
You did not, I got the joke, but spent most of the nigh failing to think of a witty response.
ANIMAL! ANIMAL! ANIMAL! :worthy
Quote from: Just X on April 02, 2009, 02:54:56 PM
You did not, I got the joke, but spent most of the nigh failing to think of a witty response.
Quote from: moyer777 on April 02, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
ANIMAL! ANIMAL! ANIMAL! :worthy
Spoken like gentlemen. Thank you.
You guys let me sweat that one for a full day!
Quote from: Jaames on April 02, 2009, 05:03:19 PM
Quote from: Just X on April 02, 2009, 02:54:56 PM
You did not, I got the joke, but spent most of the nigh failing to think of a witty response.
Quote from: moyer777 on April 02, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
ANIMAL! ANIMAL! ANIMAL! :worthy
Spoken like gentlemen. Thank you.
You guys let me sweat that one for a full day!
I just now saw it. I've been face deep in Wordpress, taking the fast track to learning how to alter templates in CSS. What fun. I think the programmers got together and conspired to find a way to take WYSIWYG away from us designers.
If they were to do "Star Trek Babies" now, it would probably be done in anime style, where they have big eyes like Astro Boy (who, by the way, has a movie coming out).
I like adventure
I like romance
I love warp speed
Spock dance!!
I've got my computer
I fly through the air
I play darmjot
And I have blue hair
Me, I'm a doctor damn it
Mee mee mee meee!
Is everything all right in here?
Yes, Nero.
Star Trek Babies, we make our dreams come true
Star Trek Babies, we'll do the same for you
Trek, Trek, Trek
Babies Babies Babies Babies
Make dreams come true.
Sorry couldn't resist.
:roflmao