I would like to know how you guys get such nice graphics on your website. I use paint to make my pictures, plan on getting Photoshop soon, but still, I ain't that good. Also HTML is a hsatle to fit so much stuff next to each other. I am confused. Somone help me, iI think I am going to get a new book that explains all html. I used one from 1996 and it is very basic, so...
Photoshop CS2 and Imageready CS2.
I think elements will work fine also. Its goin to take a few years to get the hang of it. I started in 7th grade making sites.
Ya, but how do you use CS2 to it's fullest. Where do you learn full css, css2, and html.
wat do you mean by fullest? Its called picking up a book on CSS at the bookstore. Check out http://csszengarden.com for the ideal css2 site design.
I guess. I gonna get a book on CSS, damnit, and i am GOING TO LEARN IT!!!
Good man. You will soon be enlightened.
im too late, spock has corruped you!!! flash works just as well and is a bit easier, keep that in mind, lol, spock will disagree with me though. he will say that flash is cheating.
It's just so confusing, why is CSS so much better then HTML, and why is it so damn hard to put a picture and text on the same line WITHOUT MESSING UP EVERYTHING AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg, yeah i know what you mean. thats always difficult on everything. Its hard to do on the web, its hard in microsoft word. computers are just stupid sometimes.
You don't really need a book. http://www.w3schools.com is a good resource... I tought my self by actually looking at the html for websites then trying to emulate it... I wouldn't recommend that unless you like figuring things out for yourself. I may eventually try to get someone to help me make some flash tutorials on basic web design stuff for my site.
I always rely on books. With flash you cannot integrate it will php and mysql. Why waste your time with flash when you can do up a nice banner and have a wicked color scheme. Take a look at http://csszengarden.com and this NOT done with flash.
I know it cant be done with flash. I'm talking flash movies. :P With narration. I'd do a movie in another format, but not everyone can see every format. If they can view websites with a browser they should be able to access a flash player. Theres one for every major platform (Win, Mac, Linux). Also, I'm very familiar with Css Zen Garden. If I had the time I would redo my LCARS template wth xhtml and css. I could do some nice mouseovers using css and make the template look nice. ;)
K I am going to the book store in a few hours, any reccomendations on what nooks I should get for HTML and CSS?
a little off tipic but does anyone know how to download streaming video, is that even possible?
Spock, I just realised you closed your site, that is a real shame, I always feel sad when something I have become used to for awhile goes away, or is about to go away. Just a sad thing, i guess.
While I also went to the store, but couldn't find a book I really liked so I've decided to just keep trying at making different web pages.
If anyone has any ideas, no mater how simple or strange they may be, let me know, because I'm just going to keep practising.
I have always loved Quickstart books but i dont think they have any good stuff about CSS. Get the SAMS teach yourself CSS guide. Its a little old but it told me wat i needed to know.
If you look hard enough you may be able to find an online version of the O'Rielly html and css books.
hey, i asked a question! if u dont know just say that, but dont ignore me. does anyone know how to download streaming video?
Ty for the input, and no, I do not know how to download streaming video ;D
thank you for your response Risky (I just got the Godfather game for Xbox, and ur name is godfather... so yeah)
The question is still up for anyone who can answer it.
I dont think you can download streaming video. Its embedded and stuff in the server.
thats what i was afraid of, maybe we could make a program that records what is on the screen then saves it as a video. would that work?
Is the godfather game any good Picard?
i havent gotten a chance to play it... Im in florida but my Xbox is at home... it looks great though.
Ok
Quote from: Picard_delta_5 on March 27, 2006, 06:36:44 AM
thats what i was afraid of, maybe we could make a program that records what is on the screen then saves it as a video. would that work?
They have those, I just don't know any names.
Sweet, I just saw a commercial for The Godfather game,
And is by streaming video, you mean the ones that play right on the screen on a website, then you can download the audio with audacity, but I dunno about the video.
yeah, i dont know about the audacity thing though, i havent used that program.
There is a program for the mac that takes video screenshots but it really slows the computer down.
oh, thats really cool, if it works.
I havent really fooled with it and Im not the person to ask. :/
then u shouldnt have responded to the post, lol
Well some questions I can answer.
indeed, but not this time....
Quote from: Scott on March 24, 2006, 11:03:17 AM
You don't really need a book. http://www.w3schools.com is a good resource... I tought my self by actually looking at the html for websites then trying to emulate it... I wouldn't recommend that unless you like figuring things out for yourself. I may eventually try to get someone to help me make some flash tutorials on basic web design stuff for my site.
I agree. Another source is the Web Developer's Virtual Library (http://www.wdvl.com (http://www.wdvl.com)). However, I did also learn from a book called
Designing Web Graphics by Lynda Weinman. You can find her books by clicking here (http://www.lynda.com/store/category.aspx?categoryID=75). To really do justice to your web graphics, you're going to need Photoshop/ImageReady or Fireworks.
It's great to learn by coding by hand, but Dreamweaver lets you get things done quicker. The web itself is a great classroom. As you're learning, be sure to view the source code of websites that you go to. You won't be able to see stylesheets (unless the styles are embedded in the page), but you can see the other code.
Once you get used to doing it, website design and production can be pretty straightforward if you keep it simple. Get to know how to use tables and stylesheets.
Quote from: Darmok on April 04, 2007, 10:07:28 PM
Quote from: Scott on March 24, 2006, 11:03:17 AM
You don't really need a book. http://www.w3schools.com is a good resource... I tought my self by actually looking at the html for websites then trying to emulate it... I wouldn't recommend that unless you like figuring things out for yourself. I may eventually try to get someone to help me make some flash tutorials on basic web design stuff for my site.
I agree. Another source is the Web Developer's Virtual Library (http://www.wdvl.com (http://www.wdvl.com)). However, I did also learn from a book called Designing Web Graphics by Lynda Weinman. You can find her books by clicking here (http://www.lynda.com/store/category.aspx?categoryID=75). To really do justice to your web graphics, you're going to need Photoshop/ImageReady or Fireworks.
It's great to learn by coding by hand, but Dreamweaver lets you get things done quicker. The web itself is a great classroom. As you're learning, be sure to view the source code of websites that you go to. You won't be able to see stylesheets (unless the styles are embedded in the page), but you can see the other code.
Once you get used to doing it, website design and production can be pretty straightforward if you keep it simple. Get to know how to use tables and stylesheets.
Hi guys. I worked as an art director at a web firm for 7 years...I agree that Photoshop, and Fireworks are best for creating web graphics. But I found that Photoshop was more stable, at least on a Mac. Our programmers learned to code by hand but they used Dreamweaver to build sites, which according to them spanks the pants off Front Page. But from what I've been told, Dreamweaver has a larger learning curve. They also tell me that its good to know what you're doing as far as HTML is concernedâ€"Dreamweaver is what they call a "Wizzywig Editor" and it likes to throw in some extra code . It helps to know what doesn't need to be there so you can remove it to make it more efficient.
Flash MX 2004 was the program I primarily used. You can learn a lot from the O'Reilly ActionScript Series called " ActionScript The Definitive Guide" by Colin Moock. In addition to learning the how to code, the book teaches you how to organize your your script, which was one of the most valuable things I learned from the book.
Check out thefwa.com and coolhomepages.com to learn how to think out of the box as far as web design is concerned. Coolhomepages.com is an award gallery which features the best static and animated web sites. I was lucky to have one of my sites recently included on this site. After years of submitting, one of my least favorite web pages was selected for a web award. Go figure. :D
As a Web programmer, I can just say that Front Page writes awful, awful, awful code. Dreamweaver's code isn't perfect, but it appears that way in comparison.
At work, I generally code HTML in a text editor, but I do use Dreamweaver for a few sites I maintain for friends. The site files/FTP interface is convenient.
Quote from: Jen on April 30, 2007, 06:47:10 PMCoolhomepages.com is an award gallery which features the best static and animated web sites. I was lucky to have one of my sites recently included on this site. After years of submitting, one of my least favorite web pages was selected for a web award. Go figure. :D
Don't you know by now that they (especially clients) will choose the least interesting design? It's the cardinal rule. :-)
Which of your sites was chosen?
Quote from: Darmok on May 01, 2007, 05:59:31 AM
Quote from: Jen on April 30, 2007, 06:47:10 PMCoolhomepages.com is an award gallery which features the best static and animated web sites. I was lucky to have one of my sites recently included on this site. After years of submitting, one of my least favorite web pages was selected for a web award. Go figure. :D
Don't you know by now that they (especially clients) will choose the least interesting design? It's the cardinal rule. :-)
Which of your sites was chosen?
You're right! Or they add a little "somthing-something" to your design and make it total crap. :smilie_bleh: On the homepage, they used a freakazoid font face I hate for the hours the restaurant is open. They added it after I designed the page.
Its a company owned by the corporation I work for. Its a restaurant called Shrimp Haus. The site still has some tweaky things the programmer has to go and fix like the placement of the award. She stuck it to the left of the text links at the bottom of the homepage. Why? Not sure...I asked her to move it. She said she's got it on her list to do.
shrimphaus.com
Quote from: Darmok on May 01, 2007, 05:59:31 AM
Don't you know by now that they (especially clients) will choose the least interesting design? It's the cardinal rule. :-)
That's so true. I always warn my developers or designers not to suggest anything they can't live with. You can't count on the client to dismiss the bad design. That's usually the one they like. :(