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Title: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on December 21, 2005, 02:46:12 PM
A place to talk about Voyager and it's crew.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on December 21, 2005, 06:40:46 PM
I like Voyager, great series. My favorite episode is Projections, even though I only saw the beging, it looked like a great episode. My favorite character is The Doctor because of his jokes, and the way he comes back to people treating him poorly. Since he is a hologram, it is like he doesn't care what people say about him, and that makes him a great character in my opinion.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on December 22, 2005, 10:19:30 AM
Voyager is one of my favorite series and there are so many great episodes. My favorite character are Janeway, The Doctor and Seven of Nine. I really liked Kes when she started getting her telepathy powers but then she left. I think one reason why I liked this series is because I'm a huge Borg fan and this series dealt with alot of Borg problems.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Rico on December 22, 2005, 02:24:20 PM
Voyager was fun, but I felt they had more weak episodes than any of the other Trek series.  Now they still had a lot of very good ones and I will do a few Podcasts on some of them.  I think adding Seven was a good idea.  They did many interesting episodes with her.  I thought the two part shows they did were fun, like the War ones and the ones where they were back in time on Earth in the late 1990's.  Voyager also did a great finale and I was glad they made it home.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: spock on December 23, 2005, 07:32:23 PM
Any channels with Voyager playing?
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on December 23, 2005, 08:03:00 PM
There is one in Canada called "Space", but other than that, no I don't thinnk so.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: tadmaz on December 24, 2005, 12:50:14 PM
Voyager will be airing on SpikeTV in the Fall of 2006!!! (according to wikipedia)
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on December 24, 2005, 08:35:39 PM
Cool, but I'm not entirely sure if this is true. I don't know if Spike is the kind of station that will play VOY. But if they are that will be cool.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: spock on December 25, 2005, 02:06:32 PM
Omg YES!
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: tadmaz on December 25, 2005, 02:38:25 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek

It's very hard to find, but here's the quote:

Reruns of The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine are aired regularly on Spike TV in the United States. Spike TV will also begin airing reruns of Voyager in the fall of 2006, as part of its original deal for all three series. TOS, TNG, and Voyager air daily in Canada on Space: The Imagination Station, which has also purchased Enterprise for daily rebroadcasts starting in the fall of 2005. In December 2005, Comcast's G4 network announced it had obtained the syndication rights for both TNG and TOS, with TNG slated to air on January 8 on the network; reportedly, Spike will continue to broadcast TNG as well.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: spock on December 25, 2005, 02:47:55 PM
W00t W00t!
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on December 25, 2005, 08:14:13 PM
See, I told you Space was the best!!!! But can't wait for Spike to show VOY because my dad is pretty cheap, and only gets up to channel 36, so I only get Space at my mom's, and I want to show VOY to my dad. My dad is the one who introduced me to TOS, and he is the reason why I love the show so much today.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on April 12, 2006, 07:55:54 AM
Who is everyone's favorite character and why?

I think this is the hardest one for me because I liked so many of the characters. Janeway, Seven and Doctor would be my favorites. Janeway because she's a strong woman and I think her character changed over the course of the series. Again with change, Seven was a huge addition to the crew in the fourth season. I think she was the Spock or Data of this series.. always trying to figure out humanity. And then there is the Doctor who always lighten up the situation.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Rico on April 12, 2006, 12:03:04 PM
I liked Seven and Paris.  They both changed a lot from where they started out.  Lots of good character stuff for both of them.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on April 12, 2006, 01:01:09 PM
Well in this series I didn't like a lot of he characters a lot, just because I thought they were repetative, and I thought Janeway, at times, made some wrong decisions that seemed like easy choices. But the Docter was my exception, and I htought he was GREAT GREAT GREAT!!
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Picard_delta_5 on April 12, 2006, 01:17:22 PM
no question, the doctor. He is awsome. He always has a good joke, and its so funny when Tom and Harry talk about his bedside manner. He is great.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on May 31, 2006, 03:25:44 PM
GUYS, GALS!!! I'm watching Voyager, and I haven't been paying to much attention to the episode, because I'm on the computer, but I just looked, and 7 of 9 walked out into this boxing ring thing, and her opponent was this guy who looks A LOT like The Rock. Could someone please confirm that it is him, I can give a few more details on the episode.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on May 31, 2006, 03:36:14 PM
Episode - Tsunkatse
Production: 232
Season: 6 Episode: 15
Air Date: 02.09.2000
Stardate: 53447.2


While on shoreleave, Chakotay and Torres attend a Tsunkatse match in a nearby alien world. In the meantime, Captain Janeway is off touring a planet in a neighboring system. However, before Chakotay can attend another match, he first must get another crewmember to cover his duties. Meanwhile, Seven of Nine and Tuvok ask Chakotay if they can study a micro-nebula on an away mission. Chakotay grants them permission, telling them that they can spend their shoreleave in whatever manner they choose.

While in the shuttle, Seven of Nine and Tuvok are captured by an alien vessel. An alien named Penk welcomes Seven of Nine to Tsunkatse, telling her that she is going to be a very popular attraction. Seven demands to see Tuvok, who was injured when their shuttle was hit.

While attending to Tuvok, Seven of Nine tells Penk that she has no intention of participating in his game. However, Seven agrees to fight for Tuvok in exchange for his medical care.

Back on Voyager, Chakotay, Kim, Paris and Torres engage in a conversation about boxing and fighting matches. And the Doctor tries to get Neelix to go with him to the Norcadian Museum of Entomology instead of attending the Tsunkatse matches with Chakotay.

At the match, Chakotay, Kim, Paris and Neelix are shocked to discover that Seven of Nine, dressed in an alien fight suit, is the challenger of the Tsunkatse match. Seven tells her opponent in the ring that she doesn't want to fight. Meanwhile, Chakotay leads the others through the crowd, struggling to get closer to the pit.

From Voyager, Torres calls Chakotay looking for an update on the match. Chakotay tells her what's going on and instructs her to beam Seven out. However, Torres is unsuccessful because she thinks that Seven's lifesigns are masked somehow.

Torres tells Chakotay that the figures in the pit are photonic, or holographic projections that are being transmitted from a different location. Drawing back his arm, the Champion (the Rock) swings at Seven who falls to the ground.

In the meantime from the Delta Flyer, Captain Janeway asks Chakotay and Torres for an update. And while Seven of Nine is nursing her injuries, Penk tells her that he is entering her in the Red Match, where only one of the opponents leaves the ring alive. Penk's sidekick The Hunter promises to train Seven for the match. He reminds her that there are no individuals in Tsunkatse, only prey.

Continuing the effort to rescue Seven of Nine, the Norcadian Ambassador tells Neelix that he will begin an immediate investigation. However, Neelix is not convinced that the Ambassador has nothing to do with the fact that friendly aliens are being forced to compete in Tsunkatse matches against their will.

Torres tells Chakotay that they were having trouble isolating the source of the transmissions because they never seemed to be coming from the same place. They realized that the transmissions are emanating from a ship that is protected from neutronic weaponry.

Back on the alien ship, Seven is instructed to rest before her match. Just as the match is about to begin, Seven is shocked when The Hunter enters the ring. The Hunter tells Seven that he was training her so that she could kill him and give him an honorable death.

Meanwhile, Voyager finally tracks down the Tsunkatse Vessel. Chakotay tells Penk that they only have 30 seconds to return Seven and Tuvok before Voyager begins firing. Back in the ring, Seven tries to convince The Hunter that they both should refuse to fight. Voyager and the Tsunkatse Vessel begin to exchange fire, allowing the crew to beam Tuvok over. However, they are unable to get a lock on Seven's individual positioning, and instead beam both Seven and The Hunter onto Voyager.

Back on Voyager, Paris instructs The Hunter to step away from Seven. Chakotay tells The Hunter that a Hirogen hunting party has agreed to meet with them. The Hunter discloses his gratefulness to the crew and tells them that he plans to look for his son.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on June 01, 2006, 03:36:20 PM
O thank you very much Kenny, it was a pretty good episode.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Picard_delta_5 on June 07, 2006, 04:11:15 PM
yeah... i need to watch more voyager... i think it is my second fav series but i dont know nearly enough about it....
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Riskygodfather on June 08, 2006, 04:29:00 PM
I have started not to like VOY that much anymore. I just am getting annoyed at it, but I can't explain why. It's the opposote of ENT. When I started watching ENT more, I liked it more, when I started watching VOY more, I liked it less.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Picard_delta_5 on June 09, 2006, 12:34:56 AM
hmmm fascinating... u need to talk to holodeck Freud...
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on March 17, 2007, 06:30:32 PM
I just finished watching Voyager's Endgame (series finale) for the 'I don't know how many times' and I can't understand why some people disliked it so much. I really enjoyed it, i mean you have Voyager coming back to the Alpha Quad while inside a Borg Sphere.. can't get any better then that.

I would like to hear from someone who did not like it and if you could explain why.

I think TNG, DS9 and Voy all has AWESOME finales.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Dan M on March 17, 2007, 07:14:58 PM
My wife and I have been watching a lot of Voyager lately. We'll have to watch Tsunkatse next.

Kenny, I actually enjoyed Endgame even more than the final episode of DS9.  (There's something about the pacing of the DS9 finale which is just off.)

I've never understood the hatred of Endgame, but then I've never understood the people who dislike the series in general.

Endgame isn't a departure from the normal tone of Voyager.  It's just a bigger story which wraps up their adventure.  I'd have liked to see a little more of their arrival, but I'm happy with what we got.

Just an hour or so ago, I purchased the first post-Endgame Voyager novel, Homecoming.  Has anyone read that?
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Jen on March 18, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never seen the end of TNG, Voyager or DS9. I did see Enterprise's ending and it stank. I need to buy the DVD's of these shows so I can watch them all. I never watched much Voyager, because at the time I was in college and I spent alot of hours in the art studio on campus. But I have been started recording them recently. I have to say that I for one like this show. Most of the episodes aren't as well written as DS9 or TNG but they're still enjoyable.

I LOVE Neelix. He's my favorite character on Voyager. He seems like the kind of person I would befriend in real life. I think the character of Neelix adds alot to Voyager. Alot of the characters are stiff and serious (no thanks to Rick Berman) but Neelix is fun and lively.

My favorite Voyager episode, so far is "Message In A Bottle". I emailed Rico and asked him to do some commentary on this one. Andy Dick guest stars in this episode as an upgraded EMH doctor on an experimental Starfleet vessel on the edge of the Alpha Quarant.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Message_in_a_Bottle (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Message_in_a_Bottle)

Doctor Phlox from Enterprise is also on the top of my list of favorite Trek Charcaters. He's so chipper.  :D
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Dan M on March 18, 2007, 10:16:29 AM
Message In A Bottle is a good episode.

You've never seen "All Good Things", Jen? :o

Wow!  Get on that.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: jedijeff on March 18, 2007, 10:27:23 AM
I liked all the series enders, with the exception of Enterprise. I think Voyager may be my favorite, as I was happy to see them get back to Earth. It gave me a real good feeling at the end.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on March 18, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: Jen on March 18, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never seen the end of TNG, Voyager or DS9. I did see Enterprise's ending and it stank.

:: stands there with his hand out :: Hand in your 'geek' card Jen. :)
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Jen on March 18, 2007, 01:47:50 PM
Quote from: StarTrekFanatic5 on March 18, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: Jen on March 18, 2007, 09:55:40 AM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never seen the end of TNG, Voyager or DS9. I did see Enterprise's ending and it stank.

:: stands there with his hand out :: Hand in your 'geek' card Jen. :)
Eh...err...ok...here you go. I want it back after I watch them though.  ;)

Hey I just watched the grand finale of DS9 it was on Spike TV. I wasn't sure what all the flash backs were about, or the whole thing with the "Fire cave" but it was cool. Never fear, I'm saving up to buy the Trek DVDs. They're just so darn expensive.  :'(
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Captain BJ Wanlund on March 18, 2007, 02:07:41 PM
TELL me about it...

BJ
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Picard_delta_5 on April 20, 2007, 09:01:12 AM
message in a bottle is def up there for me... probably in my top 5 voyager eps... amazing episode
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Darkmolerman on April 20, 2007, 09:23:06 AM
he-he the cleshey(as in that commonly known frace) message in the bottle
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on January 17, 2008, 04:51:07 PM
As many of you know I'm a huge fan of Voyager.. it's right up there with TNG for me. I was surfing you tube and found some great clips.

The first one was a really good season cliffhanger, the episode is called Unimatrix Zero



This is the last ten minutes of the series.. everytime I see this it gives me chills and brings tears to my eyes.

Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: billybob476 on January 17, 2008, 05:00:49 PM
I don't know, I've always liked Voyager but I generally consider it the weakest Trek. It seems to me like it should have been darker overall, the ship was generally in good repair, they always had enough to eat, they had a never ending supply of shuttles...There never seemed to be enough WRONG considering they were all alone 70,000 light years from home.

I never really liked Janeway as a Captain. She was too much of a scientist, I guess I just couldn't relate to her on any level. The doctor was good for a laugh, as was Neelix. The rest of the crew just didn't really do it for me.

Don't get me wrong, there were some good episodes. Anything with the Borg was pretty fun. The one where the ship gets taken over and the crew gets used in war simulations was good as well. I liked how they integrated Barclay and Troi and i think this series did for the Borg and holograms what DS9 did for Klingons and Ferrengi. It really fleshed them out as a true part of the trek universe.

As I said overall good, maybe I should give it another go.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on January 17, 2008, 05:19:17 PM
You're not alone there Billybob.. I have grown use to Voyager bashing that I don't even try to defend it anymore. You all have opinions and my opinion is that I loved the series, loved the characters, I've always loved strong woman and Voyager has three of the strongest, Janeway, Be'llana and Seven. I'm not saying it's perfect but neither are TOS, TNG or DS9. Love it or hate it, it's all part of the wonderful world of Star Trek.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: billybob476 on January 17, 2008, 05:31:51 PM
Oh I agree and I don't intend to bash. I do enjoy Voyager, just not as much as others. I love DS9 and I'm very confident that we can come up with a whole slew of issues with it.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Geekyfanboy on January 17, 2008, 05:35:05 PM
:) I wasn't accusing you of bashing.. I have friend who rip Voyager apart. I love Deep Space Nine as well.. I think the last season was some of the best written Trek ever. I love all Trek.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Ktrek on January 17, 2008, 08:03:10 PM
I like Voyager a lot and just started watching season one again. If I have any complaint at all about the show it would be Janeway. I just don't think she has a strong enough presence for a captain like Picard does. Mulgrew also tries much too hard to be strong and it doesn't come off as natural. Whereas Patrick Stewart really had presence and he could just stand there and say nothing and still look like a captain.

I do want to say that I am in no way against women in strong leading roles at all I just think Mulgrew was not the one for the job. Besides Janeway I really enjoy all the characters, some more than others but I still like the cast overall. There are certainly things many of use would have changed about Voyager if we could but I'm thankful that we got seven seasons of more Trek!

Kevin
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: psikeyhackr on September 28, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
I just ran across something interesting.

A Voyager Route Map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Voyager

I tried searching to see if this was mentioned before but found this old thread.

From that map you have to wonder why they didn't head for the DS9 wormhole instead of back to Earth.  Am I to serious about Trek for asking that question or is whoever made that map.  LOL

psik
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Feathers on September 28, 2008, 01:18:03 PM
Hmmm isk the Dominion for a shorter run home o the Borg and a longer run...

No contest, they should have headed fo the Gamma quadrant IMHO. Does the map have any form of 'official' standing (i.e. paramount buy-in)?
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: celestialteapot on September 28, 2008, 02:34:11 PM
It's nice to read good comments about VOY instead of people ripping it apart :)

When VOY first aired I was about 14/15 and could not stand DS9 and their sitting around on a space station, I wanted starships and exploration. VOY quickly became my favourite and I loved that there was a strong female captain, as much as I loved Rachel Garret in 'Yesterday's Enterprise' it annoyed me that they killed her off in such a non-heroic way just so the lieutenant and Tasha could take the ship back - it sort of felt like someone went "well, we can't have a woman do this, kill her off and make sure the guy takes it back." (I had a huge crush on Rachel Garret... :blush)

Now that I'm older and watching DS9 for the first time on DVD I can see that it's a very strong series, VOY had some amazing episodes and brilliant characters but seems like it got all the rejected DS9 storylines and nobody really caring about it. I think VOY is on the weaker side of Trek but so much better than ENT.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: wraith1701 on September 28, 2008, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: psikeyhackr on September 28, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
I just ran across something interesting.

A Voyager Route Map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Voyager

I tried searching to see if this was mentioned before but found this old thread.

From that map you have to wonder why they didn't head for the DS9 wormhole instead of back to Earth.  Am I to serious about Trek for asking that question or is whoever made that map.  LOL

psik


Wow; that map is a really cool find!  You're right; it looks like a much shorter trip to just travel to the Gamma Quadrant and use the wormhole. 
I'm guessing that maybe the crew didn't know the location of the Gamma Quadrant terminus of the wormhole. 
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: billybob476 on September 28, 2008, 04:29:05 PM
Quote from: wraith1701 on September 28, 2008, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: psikeyhackr on September 28, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
I just ran across something interesting.

A Voyager Route Map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Voyager

I tried searching to see if this was mentioned before but found this old thread.

From that map you have to wonder why they didn't head for the DS9 wormhole instead of back to Earth.  Am I to serious about Trek for asking that question or is whoever made that map.  LOL

psik


Wow; that map is a really cool find!  You're right; it looks like a much shorter trip to just travel to the Gamma Quadrant and use the wormhole. 
I'm guessing that maybe the crew didn't know the location of the Gamma Quadrant terminus of the wormhole. 

I'd assume such info would have been in thier database. Especially since they were in the vicinity when they got lost initially.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: Meds on September 28, 2008, 11:11:09 PM
Oh i love Voyager, I prefere it to DS9. I didn't like Harry kin nor Nelix but evertone else was just brilliant. Saw the episode with Brad Dourif in the other day, wher Tuvok does the mind meld and the gets all angry, brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: Voyager Talk
Post by: AtlantisAngel on July 09, 2010, 04:12:32 AM
Voyager is immense. Agreed, there are some weak story points throughout the series but it is awesome! There were some brilliantly funny episodes such as 'The Bride of Chaotica' and 'Fair Haven' but I also loved 'Year of Hell' and 'Unimatrix Zero' because they were so gritty.

The Doctor grew on me as the series went on, and I liked how we saw Tom Paris grow into a nice guy from the a$$ hole at the start. But my two favourite characters always were and always will be, Janeway and B'Elana.