Ok, yeah I'm going....
Lucasfilm announced today that Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith will be released theatrically in 3D back-to-back on September 20, 2013 and October 11, 2013, respectively.
"Attack of the Clones" will be going up against Ron Howard's Rush with Chris Hemsworth and Daniel Bruhl, while Paul Greengrass's Captain Phillips starring Tom Hanks is scheduled on the same date as "Revenge of the Sith."
"Attack of the Clones" will also be battling for 3D screens against The Little Mermaid 3D, opening a week earlier, and "Revenge of the Sith" will be in a similar situation with Sin City: A Dame to Kill For presumably opening in 3D theaters a week before.
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace was released in 3D on February 10. Re-released by Fox, the 3D version earned $43.5 million domestically and $59.3 million internationally for a worldwide total of $102.7 million.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94065 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94065)
Hell yes. Saw this today as well. The coverage from CVI has really been good on SW.com. Like the Chris Hardwick spots and interviews.
Good turn out of money so you can't blame them for going for a full release. Good business sense. As I don't really care for these films I won't be going but those who enjoy them well fair play have fun.
Now Howard the Duck in 3D..... Urghhh
20th Century Fox bumped up the release date a bit for Ep. II now.
20th Century Fox is following this year's 3D re-release of Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace with 3D versions of Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith in 2013. The former will arrive on September 20 and the latter on October 4.
Attack of the Clones will be going up against Ron Howard's Rush with Chris Hemsworth and Daniel Bruhl while Revenge of the Sith will face off against the Vince Vaughn comedy The Delivery Man, Relativity Media's thriller Paranoia and the Robert Rodriguez comic book sequel Sin City: A Dame to Kill For.
Attack of the Clones will also be battling for 3D screens against The Little Mermaid 3D, opening a week earlier.
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace was released in 3D on February 10. Re-released by Fox, the 3D version earned $43.5 million domestically and $59.3 million internationally for a worldwide total of $102.7 million.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97291 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=97291)
Quote from: Rico on November 21, 2012, 08:46:10 AM
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace was released in 3D on February 10. Re-released by Fox, the 3D version earned $43.5 million domestically and $59.3 million internationally for a worldwide total of $102.7 million.[/b]
Wow did not know this generated so much money worldwide. Pretty impressive.
Quote from: Jobydrone on November 21, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Rico on November 21, 2012, 08:46:10 AM
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace was released in 3D on February 10. Re-released by Fox, the 3D version earned $43.5 million domestically and $59.3 million internationally for a worldwide total of $102.7 million.[/b]
Wow did not know this generated so much money worldwide. Pretty impressive.
These days, that's not really a lot.
And as i said before just because it makes a lot of money does not mean its a good film. ;)
Regardless of anyone's opinion of the film, my son will make sure we're both there :)
well, to be fair, for a rerelease it's pretty sporty business, certainly profitable after the cost on conversion and will be a great lead in for Ep. VII.
Quote from: Feathers on November 21, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
Regardless of anyone's opinion of the film, my son will make sure we're both there :)
And that my friends is all that matters. :)
Quote from: Feathers on November 21, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
Regardless of anyone's opinion of the film, my son will make sure we're both there :)
Funnily enough, Star Wars wasn't made for 40 year old guys in 1977. It was made for kids. And so were the prequels. My kids love 'em. That's fine. It's theirs. I had my childhood, still unraped.
Quote from: Chris-El on November 21, 2012, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Feathers on November 21, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
Regardless of anyone's opinion of the film, my son will make sure we're both there :)
Funnily enough, Star Wars wasn't made for 40 year old guys in 1977. It was made for kids. And so were the prequels. My kids love 'em. That's fine. It's theirs. I had my childhood, still unraped.
Indeed, but it provides wonderful fodder for snarky arm chair quarter backing from 40 year old guys on the internet who fancy themselves filmmakers!
My daughter loves a new hope, she couldn't stand Phantom so I stand by my comment. Oh and I'm 39 so I will take your comment as not aimed at me. ;)
Lucky for me I don't give a sh*t what people say or think about these films.. I love each and everyone of them for different reasons from Episode 1 to Episode 6 and nothing you say, do or chastise me for will change that. :)
BTW.. the above Statement was just that a statement.. not aimed towards anyone here.. it's just my general rule.
Yes, Meds, I give you a pass for your indiscretions based on your youth. :)
LOL ;) I'm 5 years younger than you old man ha ha :D
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on November 28, 2012, 02:07:51 PM
LOL ;) I'm 5 years younger than you old man ha ha :D
Oy! Watch it!
Nothing wrong with being 5 years older than you are.
So it looks like they have cancelled converting the other movies into 3D.. what do you think?
http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/exclusive-no-more-star-wars-3d-prequel-releases-lucasfilm-passes-to-focus-on-new-trilogy/#utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/exclusive-no-more-star-wars-3d-prequel-releases-lucasfilm-passes-to-focus-on-new-trilogy/#utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Ah well, I'd rather have new films rather then yet another re-re-re-release.
That makes sense and I was shocked that it only did 23 mil in rerelease of Ep 1.
Sorry, that story listed it at 23, but it was actually 43 domestic ... still not impressive.
What's interesting to me is they add that to the sum total of Ep1. It is weird to re-release the most polarizing movie in Star Wars to launch the 3d conversions. I think you could have gotten more butts in seats with A New Hope, but who knows. My kids like the prequels better. Generational thing, I guess.
According to starwars.com the releases are "postponed".
http://starwars.com/news/focusing-on-star-wars-episode-vii-lucasfilm-postpones-episodes-ii-and-iii-3d.html (http://starwars.com/news/focusing-on-star-wars-episode-vii-lucasfilm-postpones-episodes-ii-and-iii-3d.html)
QuoteLucasfilm has decided to postpone this fall's scheduled release of Star Wars Episodes II and III in 3D. Given the recent development that we are moving forward with a new Star Wars trilogy, we will now focus 100 percent of our efforts on Star Wars: Episode VII in order to ensure the best possible experience for our fans. We will post further information about our 3D release plans at a later date.
A great decision. Being under new management they seem to have finally realised they can still make money without doing rehash and offering the fans real, new cinematic content. This bodes well for the future!
Quote from: Dangelus on January 28, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
A great decision. Being under new management they seem to have finally realised they can still make money without doing rehash and offering the fans real, new cinematic content. This bodes well for the future!
Well I am very disappointed, I was looking forward to seeing them. And I really don't get Dan how you can be happy about this. If you didn't want to go, don't go. But don't take pleasure in the fact that I don't get to see it. WTF is that?
Quote from: Bryancd on January 28, 2013, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: Dangelus on January 28, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
A great decision. Being under new management they seem to have finally realised they can still make money without doing rehash and offering the fans real, new cinematic content. This bodes well for the future!
Well I am very disappointed, I was looking forward to seeing them. And I really don't get Dan how you can be happy about this. If you didn't want to go, don't go. But don't take pleasure in the fact that I don't get to see it. WTF is that?
I'm happy about the news too Bryan. It's not because you can't see it, it's because they are actually focusing on the new trilogy. It also is good because an over-saturation of the movies could poison the well. I'm happy that the creative focus will be on the future of the franchise. So, I think that there is room to be happy at the news when you look at the big picture.
They were going to release 3d every year or two years and that would seriously conflict with the schedule for the new trilogy in the long run. It's better to get the news now than when it was going to be released.
They did this because 3-D sucks! :)
(volley to Bryan...hehe)
Quote from: X on January 28, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
I'm happy about the news too Bryan. It's not because you can't see it, it's because they are actually focusing on the new trilogy. It also is good because an over-saturation of the movies could poison the well. I'm happy that the creative focus will be on the future of the franchise. So, I think that there is room to be happy at the news when you look at the big picture.
They were going to release 3d every year or two years and that would seriously conflict with the schedule for the new trilogy in the long run. It's better to get the news now than when it was going to be released.
One has nothing to do with the other. Everything you are saying is pure and utter speculation not based on any material of financial fact. You assume the creative and financial and movie goer focus will suffer some fantastical form of dilution? I'm sorry, are you privy to same bit of insider financial and intellectual accounting withinDisney and LucasFilm we are not aware of? Seriously, that's a load, Chris.
Quote from: Rico on January 28, 2013, 02:53:02 PM
They did this because 3-D sucks! :)
(volley to Bryan...hehe)
That I can live with, much more intellectually honest. :)
Figure they spent $10M to do the conversion of TPM and $10M for Fox to advertise. It grossed $43M. So it makes made money, made fans happy, and required ZERO work from any of the creative team. Over saturation? Laughable, this is Disney and LucasFilm, two of the biggest film marketing and licensing juggernauts ever. Imagine the excitement of building into an Ep VII release with Ep VI in theaters in 3D a few months before. If anything it's a foolish marketing decision. There's likely something else driving this, be it the company that was doing the conversion and their relationship with Disney or something along those lines.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 28, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
Figure they spent $10M to do the conversion of TPM and $10M for Fox to advertise. It grossed $43M. So it makes made money, made fans happy, and required ZERO work from any of the creative team. Over saturation? Laughable, this is Disney and LucasFilm, two of the biggest film marketing and licensing juggernauts ever. Imagine the excitement of building into an Ep VII release with Ep VI in theaters in 3D a few months before. If anything it's a foolish marketing decision. There's likely something else driving this, be it the company that was doing the conversion and their relationship with Disney or something along those lines.
You are correct on that, but how many fans did they piss off with what many perceived to be another money grab? I think that there was a huge amount of negativity when 1 in 3d was released. While you might have enjoyed it, Ep 1 did generate a lot of negative press and I'm going to guess that this was a factor in their decision. By breaking way from something many fans had a problem with, you convince them that the franchise is in good hands without spending a dime.
Hmm. Well I'm afraid I didn't see the conversion version. Couldn't care less about it as didn't like PM and I don't like 3D but its a shame for the people who enjoy it all and as figures show it made money.
I think as previously said this is a decision made purely to keep interest focused on the upcoming film(s) and marketing wise that's only right. You need to sell new material rather than going back and messing ( lessons learned I feel)
Still I'm sure once the new film is out the re-issues will commence and honestly it wouldn't suprise me if we see all films shown building up to the new one and as much as the prequels annoy me I'll swallow my niggles and do a film build up in anticipation. Pressure on for JJ.
Quote from: X on January 28, 2013, 03:28:02 PM
]You are correct on that, but how many fans did they piss off with what many perceived to be another money grab? I think that there was a huge amount of negativity when 1 in 3d was released. While you might have enjoyed it, Ep 1 did generate a lot of negative press and I'm going to guess that this was a factor in their decision. By breaking way from something many fans had a problem with, you convince them that the franchise is in good hands without spending a dime.
Many fans didn't have a problem with it. Vocal internet fans did. $43 million dollars proves your contention incorrect. You know how many parents took their kids to see it, loving the opportunity to see a STAR WARS film in theater with a new generation for the first time? Spare me the internet fanboy rage and give me a Dad and his 5 year old son seeing a movie together. What ill will? Unbelievable. You can't piss off a rational person by creating a product they are NOT REQUIRED TO BUY. You can piss off some internet moron with a keyboard who likes to yell that George Lucas is greedy.
Isla will be of good age to see the new one if its a U rating and as much as I don't like the prequels (and I don't like them purely because I think they are poor scripts, sorry my opinion) I would love to take her to see ANY Star Wars film at the flicks. Now she loves A New Hope, we watch it all the time but she doesn't care much for PM, not sure why that is I think it's because she likes Chewey lol.
Now the official site is saying just that EpII and III in 3D have been postponed. So they are leaving the door open for the OT, which is smart, they should do a coordinated release of the OT in 3D leading into the release of Ep VII...which will likely also be in 3D. Take that haters! :) Actually it will be interesting to see if they do go the full filmed in 3D route..
Well I hope they release OT in nice standard edition as well. Or even better original version re-mastered. That would be great.
Quote from: Meds on January 28, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
Well I hope they release OT in nice standard edition as well. Or even better original version re-mastered. That would be great.
I know, but I doubt it. If they are going to spend the money they will want it to be "new". Especially considering if Ep. VII is filmed in 3D then they will want to create an integrated visual experience for the new audience that may have never seen the OT in theaters.
True, but one can hope. As someone who has only seen the updated New Hope on screen I'd love to see the original.
Bryan 43 million is a not a lot of money in today's market. It's also not a lot of seats when you factor in the 3d surcharge.
Quote from: X on January 28, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
Bryan 43 million is a not a lot of money in today's market. It's also not a lot of seats when you factor in the 3d surcharge.
No, but simple math makes it an almost 100% return on on invested capital. This isn;t about the economics or in accurate "perceived" fan reaction. This is likely marketing focus shifting to being more supportive of the OT. If Disney can release the OT in 3D leading into Ep VII, that's low hanging fruit and an easy marketing decision.
Quote from: X on January 28, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
Bryan 43 million is a not a lot of money in today's market. It's also not a lot of seats when you factor in the 3d surcharge.
Yeah, that'd barely fuel my private jet! ;)
But seriously, considering marketing and all the rest, it's not impressive. The '97 re-releases added hundreds of millions to the total.
I didn't go see the 3D of PM because I didn't think it was worth the extra money to see it. Probably would go see II & III and would be there for IV, V & VI! I did see ANH in theaters when I was a kid and saw it again when they released the new version. I'm not big into 3D only seeing "The Last Airbender" & "Green Lantern" but I would love to see them release the original trilogy before the new movie comes out. So they better get started!
If they want to focus on the new movies, then I can live with the decision. Was looking forward to seeing all the movies in 3D, and enjoyed the Phantom Menace in 3D. I guess they can revisit it again in the future.
I think both Chris and Meds have hit on all the points I would have made regarding why I think this is a good decision so I don't think I need to say much more.
What I will say is that it's all well and good saying we don't have to see what they put out but since I live in the real world and on a limited income with no disposal money this " internet moron with a keyboard" is glad he doesn't have to deal with disappointing his 6 year old daughter crying because we can't go and see / buy every version of the same star wars movie Lucasfilm put out. And we've not even talked about the merchandise! Lucky for me she is not into these things yet (although I'm trying!)
OK Lucasfilm are not alone in the way they monetise their product and I have to go without a lot myself but it's refreshing they are taking this stance. Although my suspicion is that like Bryan says they are shifting the focus to the OT add it ties in closer to these new movies than the PT. Perhaps Disney are attempting to quietly forget the PT?
Quote from: Dangelus on January 28, 2013, 09:35:01 PM
OK Lucasfilm are not alone in the way they monetise their product and I have to go without a lot myself but it's refreshing they are taking this stance. Although my suspicion is that like Bryan says they are shifting the focus to the OT add it ties in closer to these new movies than the PT. Perhaps Disney are attempting to quietly forget the PT?
I'm sorry to belabor the point, Dan, but how can it be refreshing, based on what you are contending, when they are clearly not doing this to save you money? Had they made an announcement stating "We are canceling these releases in an effort to not compel people to feel obligated to waste their money" I would agree that's the motivation but people throwing around fan rage, GL milking us for money, it will detreact from the creative process, ect. just seems like so much noise.
Putting one and one together, with the rumor that JJ may not want to adhere to a 2015 release date, that would be an issue for releasing these in theaters assuming they want to get the marketing timing right. So I think it does bode well for the OT being released in 3D but delayed so that they coincide with what is now potentially a moving release date.
What in saying Bryan is that spending money on original content is more desirable in my opinion than repackaged content. If you have young fanatic kids who want to own and consume everything related to their fandom (physical media, merchandise etc) parents are under pressure to provide. These big businesses should have a moral obligation to provide value for money or at least an adequate balance. SW had been issued and reissued in recent years with only lip service being paid to what important restoration they could have done to it and on occasions some horrendous changes (Noooooooo!!!) in my opinion but that's another story.
No, I do understand your point, Dan, I just don't think it was why they altered this release schedule, that's all. And if that's the case, don't give them credit for it. :)
The most obvious and simple answer is converting the past films to 3-D was essentially a potential revenue stream when no other SW films were going to happen. After "The Phantom Menace" in 3-D came out (which I did go see), Lucasfilm said it made enough money for them to move forward converting the next films. But they now have new films on the horizon and certainly can expect greater profits from those movies.
One thing I'm still slightly confused about is who actually owns Ep. 1-6 and who gets to "tinker" with them, re-release them, etc.? I thought 20th Century Fox/Lucasfilm still sort of owned those. I have no idea how all these deals and contracts are setup at this point. Anyway, I always have felt converting older films to 3-D is not really worth the effort.
It may be Disney giving the finger to Fox. But assuming 3D home veiwing continues to grow, which is likely, a conversion of Ep II and III will likely happen if it hasn't already (Ep II had to be well into the conversion at this point) and I think the OT will be released to coincide with EpVII. That certainly doesn't mean they would have a PT theatrical release, but you have to figure they will be converted at some point.
Quote from: Bryancd on January 29, 2013, 07:17:54 AM
No, I do understand your point, Dan, I just don't think it was why they altered this release schedule, that's all. And if that's the case, don't give them credit for it. :)
I see what you're saying. Perhaps it is just a happy coincidence but I still have hope that Disney's understanding is that the way to make revenues is to give people new material and expand the franchise but perhaps this isn't the major reason in this case.