Time to start a new thread for this and I know it will make Rico happy. :)
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/19/apple_nears_trial_production_of_high_res_ipad_3_coming_in_early_2012.html (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/19/apple_nears_trial_production_of_high_res_ipad_3_coming_in_early_2012.html)
2012 is much better, I never really understood the logic of releasing two revisions in the same year. Especially because:
a) There isn't really anything wrong with the current iteration (aside from the higher res screen which is more of a nice to have)
b) It's not as though there is a competitor tablet with better features threatening iPad sales
c) While for us geeks, a faster CPU is a great new feature, "normal" users would not find it a compelling reason to upgrade (IMO)
Frankly this year has been pretty strange with regard to Apple's release schedules. Could they be doing it to keep us guessing? Or are they just having R&D/supply chain issues?
Quote from: billybob476 on August 19, 2011, 05:44:20 AM
Or are they just having R&D/supply chain issues?
This as well as an effort to have some continuity in their overall product upgrade cycle. It used to be just Macs, then it was Mac and iPods, then it was Mac, iPods, and iPhones, not it's Macs, iPods, iPhones, and iPads. They are having to juggle multiple product lines for the first time as well as competitive responses and supply and production issues.
They're still behind on worldwide orders if I'm not mistaken on the iPad 2. So thinking that an iPad 3 was going to just magically appear in a few months is rather amusing at this point. Especially with a retina screen, which according to rumors seems to be a bit difficult to mass produce.
King
Even a yearly update on hardware is pretty impressive. No need to go crazy.
Apple stores should do a trade in deal on "old" iPads for their refurb stock. I'm sure more people would be persuaded to upgrade sooner.
Not every Apple fan has substantial disposable income. Or any at all in my case :)
Quote from: Dangelus on August 19, 2011, 09:56:33 AM
Apple stores should do a trade in deal on "old" iPads for their refurb stock. I'm sure more people would be persuaded to upgrade sooner.
Not every Apple fan has substantial disposable income. Or any at all in my case :)
And yet they still sell these gadgets hand over fist. To be honest, they need to do nothing to subsidize their consumer base. People will give their left nut and miss their rent payment to buy an iPad and Apple knows it. It's crazy but that's how aspirational products work.
Quote from: Bryancd on August 19, 2011, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on August 19, 2011, 09:56:33 AM
Apple stores should do a trade in deal on "old" iPads for their refurb stock. I'm sure more people would be persuaded to upgrade sooner.
Not every Apple fan has substantial disposable income. Or any at all in my case :)
And yet they still sell these gadgets hand over fist. To be honest, they need to do nothing to subsidize their consumer base. People will give their left nut and miss their rent payment to buy an iPad and Apple knows it. It's crazy but that's how aspirational products work.
Well you do get those crazy people who would do that. I'm not one of them lol.
Yeah I know and it isn't their style. Even Apple resellers pretty much follow the Apple store model. Probably a requirement. I think there is a gap in the market for an "Apple product" store that did pre-owned. The problem is they wouldn't get priority on the new stock.
Yeah, it's not a question of their "style", they are a business and will look to maximize profit. Successful business don't need nor should they subsidize, it cheapens the brand and cuts into margins.
Wow - finally some real iPad 3 news. ;)
STAR WARS I-PAD BRIEFING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHF63b7g50#ws)
lulz.
What, I can make fun of stuff I got :).
King
Quote from: Dangelus on August 19, 2011, 09:56:33 AM
Apple stores should do a trade in deal on "old" iPads for their refurb stock. I'm sure more people would be persuaded to upgrade sooner.
Not every Apple fan has substantial disposable income. Or any at all in my case :)
They do have a program like that, I'm surprised Bryan isn't aware of it. You can make much more from your device by selling it on Ebay or something similar, but for the lazy they'll give you a small amount for your old devices at the store.
Quote from: Jobydrone4of20 on August 23, 2011, 08:08:20 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on August 19, 2011, 09:56:33 AM
Apple stores should do a trade in deal on "old" iPads for their refurb stock. I'm sure more people would be persuaded to upgrade sooner.
Not every Apple fan has substantial disposable income. Or any at all in my case :)
They do have a program like that, I'm surprised Bryan isn't aware of it. You can make much more from your device by selling it on Ebay or something similar, but for the lazy they'll give you a small amount for your old devices at the store.
Isn't that the recycling program? I'm talking trade ins for resale.
I'm sure you could also sell your old device on eBay or Craigslist, etc. I took a quick look and even an iPad 1 is selling for around $250 or more.
I sell on ebay, always have.
Not the first I've heard of this, but as a techie and a private pilot I think this is very, very cool.
Quote
With iPads, paper no longer flies for United
By Erica Ogg Aug. 23, 2011, 8:43am PT
Following the FAA's OK of using the iPad instead of paper manuals and charts, United is getting on board. On Tuesday the airline announced it is ordering 11,000 iPads for its pilots to use in the cockpit. Each iPad will be loaded with navigation and terminal chart apps from Jeppesen Mobile FliteDeck.
Besides the convenience of fewer books and pieces of paper floating around, United says the cost and efficiency of flying will be affected for the better too. The normal 38 pounds of paper flight manuals, charts, reference handbooks, checklists, log books and weather info will bumped in favor of a 1.5-pound iPad, which should severely lighten pilots' load. All told that's 12,000 sheets of paper per pilot that United will no longer be ordering, the airline says.
As a result, United says it will reduce fuel consumption too:
The airline projects EFBs will save nearly 16 million sheets of paper a year which is equivalent to more than 1,900 trees not cut down. Saving 326,000 gallons of jet fuel a year reduces greenhouse gas emissions by 3,208 metric tons.
So with all that extra weight reduced and fuel saved does this mean they'll start charging less for passenger baggage fees? That's probably wishful thinking.
http://gigaom.com/apple/with-ipads-paper-no-longer-flies-for-united/ (http://gigaom.com/apple/with-ipads-paper-no-longer-flies-for-united/)
...and the iPad continues to move into enterprise like I said...
I'm not surprised it's happening but I am surprised they've found someone to sign off on the safety of this. My expectation would have been that they'd be flying 'dual package' cockpits (i.e. electronic and paper) for a good few years before they got a release to move to iPad only.
This touches on what I do professionally and the grief involved in getting this sort of data into the air in electronic form is stunning.
But remember, they will have to shut off their iPads on landings and takeoff because they interfere with their other electronic gear and navigation. ;)
Quote from: Rico on August 30, 2011, 05:06:35 AM
But remember, they will have to shut off their iPads on landings and takeoff because they interfere with their other electronic gear and navigation. ;)
All part of the certification issues they'd face!
The other thing that surprises me is that with those numbers, I think we're talking App store for distribution which put a fair whack of the cost into Apple's hands.
Companies I deal with that are talking civil cockpit installations for this sort of thing are currently trying to find a way round the App Store installation model (or planning on avoiding the iPad completely). Profits just don't allow a 30% split for the hardware supplier.
I have been reading the rumors about that Amazon tablet. The sudden price drop in Kindles makes me think they must be getting ready to give out some tablet news. Should be interesting - especially if they manage to keep it around ~$300.
Quote from: Feathers on August 30, 2011, 05:17:11 AM
Quote from: Rico on August 30, 2011, 05:06:35 AM
But remember, they will have to shut off their iPads on landings and takeoff because they interfere with their other electronic gear and navigation. ;)
All part of the certification issues they'd face!
The other thing that surprises me is that with those numbers, I think we're talking App store for distribution which put a fair whack of the cost into Apple's hands.
Companies I deal with that are talking civil cockpit installations for this sort of thing are currently trying to find a way round the App Store installation model (or planning on avoiding the iPad completely). Profits just don't allow a 30% split for the hardware supplier.
Wait, I'm confused, what's the problem, the apps/app store?
King
Quote from: Bromptonboy on August 30, 2011, 10:44:15 AM
I have been reading the rumors about that Amazon tablet. The sudden price drop in Kindles makes me think they must be getting ready to give out some tablet news. Should be interesting - especially if they manage to keep it around ~$300.
I'd be amazed if Amazon could push out a $300 tablet. No one else has hit that low so far to be comparable to the iPad.
King
What Amazon can do that many other Apple competitors can't - is take a loss on the hardware - and try to make it up in an 'App Store' - or via books & content.
Yeah, Amazon looses money on every Kinddle they sell. Problem they have is that the Great App Store War has been waged and lost already.
Quote from: Bryancd on August 30, 2011, 10:56:37 AM
Yeah, Amazon looses money on every Kinddle they sell. Problem they have is that the Great App Store War has been waged and lost already.
Yeah, Apple is still the clear winner for developers and has the highest chance for making $$ and be less frustrating as far as fragmentation is concerned...but yes, Amazon could do what Apple is doing.
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on August 30, 2011, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: Feathers on August 30, 2011, 05:17:11 AM
Quote from: Rico on August 30, 2011, 05:06:35 AM
But remember, they will have to shut off their iPads on landings and takeoff because they interfere with their other electronic gear and navigation. ;)
All part of the certification issues they'd face!
The other thing that surprises me is that with those numbers, I think we're talking App store for distribution which put a fair whack of the cost into Apple's hands.
Companies I deal with that are talking civil cockpit installations for this sort of thing are currently trying to find a way round the App Store installation model (or planning on avoiding the iPad completely). Profits just don't allow a 30% split for the hardware supplier.
Wait, I'm confused, what's the problem, the apps/app store?
King
Sorry, two issues. One is certification while the other is avoiding the Apple 30% levy on AppStore sales. (I think the latter is now OK with the new rules as long as they don't put a 'Buy Content' button in the app.)
Yeah, your 2nd part is correct.
King
Reports floating around saying the next iPad might be out in 2-3 months. I think it will be longer than that. They don't want to upset those holiday buyers too much.
http://www.dailytech.com/Report+iPad+3+to+Launch+Within+Months/article23495.htm (http://www.dailytech.com/Report+iPad+3+to+Launch+Within+Months/article23495.htm)
Hmmm....
With Windows 8 tablets due at the mid / end of 2012 they may want to get a new product out before that so who knows.
Well if they are talking about announcements they might be accurate. The iPad 1 was announced in January 2010 and released in April. The iPad 2 was announced in March 2011 and released the same month. That's not too far off base for this idea.
Just a note for forum visitors on your iPhone or iPad. If you want to upload photos to the forum, you now can with the iCab browser on the app store. I'm not sure when this feature was put in, because it wasn't when I originally got it. So when you hit the select-button for attaching files to posts, you can now choose photos from your iOS device library. :)
King
Great tip! I like the iCab browser quite a bit too.
Thanks Tim that's very handy indeed :)
Some interesting rumors in this article. The idea of cutting the price of the iPad 2 and keeping around for a time is very interesting. Read on...
Another week, another fresh set of rumors about Apple's next rendition of the iPad.
The latest wave stems from Digitimes once again, who claim Apple is expected to unveil two versions of its next iPad in late January.
Perhaps the most important detail is Digitimes has backed off an earlier report that Apple was planning to launch a "mini" iPad with a 7.85-inch screen.
According to the latest Digitimes details, it appears Apple will release two new iPad models and price the iPad 2 to compete with Amazon's red-hot Kindle Fire tablet.
The new iPads will reportedly include 9.7-inch screens with retina displays, dual LED light bars to bolster brightness and quad-core A6 processors. The lone element setting these tablets apart are the cameras: one has a 5-megapixel camera while the other is 8-megapixels.
Rumors of the next iPad arrive as sales of Amazon's Kindle Fire continue to flourish. The online retailer says the $199 tablet remains the top-selling item on its site after 13 weeks. Also, Dave Limp, the vice president for Amazon's Kindle division, said earlier this month the Fire "is the most successful product we've ever launched."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2011/12/report-apple-to-unveil-next-ipad-in-january/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2011/12/report-apple-to-unveil-next-ipad-in-january/1)
Keeping the 2 around as a less expensive alternative to the Fire is an interesting idea, I hadn't heard that one. The chances of a smaller screen iPad are ZERO, I am surprised they even speculated that. Looking around my flight right now, everyone has an iPad. The dude to my left has an iPad AND a MacBook Air!
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
Keeping the 2 around as a less expensive alternative to the Fire is an interesting idea, I hadn't heard that one. The chances of a smaller screen iPad are ZERO, I am surprised they even speculated hat.
The Apple rumor mill has convinced itself that due to the Fire's success that a mini-iPad is coming. While the Fire has sold 3mil units+, iPad is over 43million last I heard. I don't think it's coming, especially if the iPad 3 had a retina display. Apple doesn't like fragmentation and avoids it as much as possible, so mini-iPad isn't coming.
I have a hard time believing that we will be getting the A6 core right now. Unless Apple gave the iPad 3 some serious battery life. But time will tell I suppose.
The rest of the rumors are interesting.
King
Interesting and probably not far from the truth. Apple have always said they wouldn't do a 7" tablet although there is a market for it so we shall see...
I would fall down in shock if the 16G iPad2 is priced anywhere near $199 within the next two years. There would be angry mobs in front of every Apple store in the nation demanding refunds.
Quote from: Dangelus on December 29, 2011, 09:10:00 AM
Interesting and probably not far from the truth. Apple have always said they wouldn't do a 7" tablet although there is a market for it so we shall see...
I would suggest there's a market for a cheaper, less feature filled pad and that what the Fire provides. Apple will never do a 7" screen iPad, ever.
Quote from: Jobydrone on December 29, 2011, 09:15:19 AM
I would fall down in shock if the 16G iPad2 is priced anywhere near $199 within the next two years. There would be angry mobs in front of every Apple store in the nation demanding refunds.
I agree, they wouldn't need to match the Fire's price, just be in the ballpark but keep the premium for a superior product and cache.
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 09:45:01 AM
I would suggest there's a market for a cheaper, less feature filled pad and that what the Fire provides. Apple will never do a 7" screen iPad, ever.
I'm not sure I agree, it really depends on how popular the newer, cheaper 7" tabs turn out to be, and how it impacts the sales of the premium models including the iPad. I don't think a 7" iPad Mini is out of the realm of possibility, especially considering how Apple loves to cannibalize their own user base.
Steve Jobs has been quoted saying he felt a 7" screen size was a non-starter for the iPad and I believe he was correct. As soon as you start scaling down the screen size, the entire experience of using the device is changed. The key to pads at the movement is to allow for a rich visual experience that is far superior to a smart phone and begins to encroach upon ultra portable laptops. Also, apple will not want to start creating different form factors with the iPad. They want the iPad experience to be universal for all users, not fragmented.
Here is the comment:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/tablets-steve-jobs/ (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/tablets-steve-jobs/)
But perhaps an "iPad Mini" would be a different device altogether? I could see it. There are different models of iPods and perhaps apple to provide a cut down experience in this market.
iPods are a different issue as they are pretty much either music only devices or the Touch which is the iPhone without the phone. The iPad is a visual medium experience and they won't be looking to fragment their prodct line. To be honest, there's no need for them to scale down the size and price of the iPad, it's a proven winner.
No need to apart from snatching that 7" market. Some people just think 10" is too big but might go for a 7" iOS device.
I don't see a problem with the "experience", afterall we have the iPhone with is a similar device to the iPad on a much smaller screen but the experience is similar. There are feature differences between models of iPhones and even between iPad 1 & 2.
They could definately pull off a fantastic 7" experience IMHO.
There is no 7" market, there is simply a cheaper market.
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
There is no 7" market, there is simply a cheaper market.
Come on Bryan there are people out there who want a 7" device it's not just price.
Quote from: Dangelus on December 29, 2011, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
There is no 7" market, there is simply a cheaper market.
Come on Bryan there are people out there who want a 7" device it's not just price.
Oh, I have no doubt. There are likely infinite variations that people would like but that does not a serviceable market make. The iPad was designed to fill a specific area of portable technology and the screen size is a major part of that. Apple feels strongly that they have designed the product with the appropriate display size and I tend to agree. By trying to flood the market with iPads with variations like screen size, they are diluting the entire point of the product in the first place. For web browsing, media watching, and games the 9" form factor is ideal.
Personally I wouldn't mind a 7" iPad. I don't take mine out because I think it's too big to be 100% portable but I would take the 7".
I wouldn't have one instead of the 10" but I would have it as a secondary device.
We take ours with us traveling but for day to day we use the iPhone for ultra portability. The iPad is our lounging around the house go to media device.
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
We take ours with us traveling but for day to day we use the iPhone for ultra portability. The iPad is our lounging around the house go to media device.
Yep same here. If I went away somewhere I'd take it but I wouldn't use it in the street.
You may be right, they may not go there but I can't help but think of the Mac Mini. A keenly priced Apple computer that was designed basically to attract Windows users over to Mac and it has become a very popular product.
I take my iPad with me everywhere, I've started taking a backpack with me wherever I go and store it there. Among other things it helps me feel a little like a college student again.
After seeing my son using the Amazon Kindle Fire we got him for Christmas I can can see the appeal and use for a 7 inch size computing device. This isn't a market that has to be "one size fits all."
Quote from: Dangelus on December 29, 2011, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
We take ours with us traveling but for day to day we use the iPhone for ultra portability. The iPad is our lounging around the house go to media device.
Yep same here. If I went away somewhere I'd take it but I wouldn't use it in the street.
You may be right, they may not go there but I can't help but think of the Mac Mini. A keenly priced Apple computer that was designed basically to attract Windows users over to Mac and it has become a very popular product.
Right, the MacMini was a Trojan horse. :) It's found a new life as a super high powered version of Apple TV for a lot of people. They hook it up to their home plasma/LCD TV's and have all the streaming content and a web browser. It's a great solution but $ for the HDMi models.
Quote from: Rico on December 29, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
This isn't a market that has to be "one size fits all."
No, you're right, but my point is it won't be for Apple. They will stick to their form size and higher price point. Again, they feel strongly the 9" screen best delivers their content and experience, especially for the Ap developers, and it's really the Ap Store and great content that will continue to make iPad the dominant pad in the market.
Quote from: Rico on December 29, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
After seeing my son using the Amazon Kindle Fire we got him for Christmas I can can see the appeal and use for a 7 inch size computing device. This isn't a market that has to be "one size fits all."
That is where Droid will come in then.
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on December 29, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
Quote from: Rico on December 29, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
After seeing my son using the Amazon Kindle Fire we got him for Christmas I can can see the appeal and use for a 7 inch size computing device. This isn't a market that has to be "one size fits all."
That is where Droid will come in then.
King
I don't know about that. I think the larger screen market will offer the most bang for the visual buck IF they can bring a tablet to market a lower price point then Apple AND deliver on what Apple can with the Ap store. It's a big ask.
I don't know what's going on, but either way, it doesn't really matter. If Apple never puts out a 7in, there will be more than enough Apple fans standing in line for the next 9 in version every other year.
If by some miracle, they do put out a 7 in, there will be more than a few apple fans, trading in their 9 in for seven inch and finding a way to ignore Jobs' refusal and give him credit for the 7 in revolution.
I've looked around and Apple has pretty much become a religion onto itself in some place. If you have the faith, you can justify the atrocities and failures. If you don't have the faith, your wayward opinion, no matter how based in fact, doesn't matter.
Chris, even for you that was some wild hyperbole! ;)
Quote from: Bryancd on December 29, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
Chris, even for you that was some wild hyperbole! ;)
LOL ... Tell me that you honestly disagree with it. If they did drop a 7 in, iFANS would covet it with more obsession than Smegoal's desire for the One Ring. It could have the processing power of an Amiga and iFANS would still say that it's not the processor or memory that matters, simple the Apple logo and the experience of owning an Apple.
As I say this, we both know that they would never do it because that would imply that Apple would be affordable for the masses and that's something that runs counter to the branding. It's the perceived Apple Club that helps to draw people into paying those prices and if anyone could be in the club, who would want to be in it?
Actually the iPad IS the Apple computer for the vast unwashed. :)
It's a new year, and the tech news is starting to churn. Estimates on the price drop of the iPad 2 when the iPad 3 hits? $100 less? $150?? $200??? More????
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/with-ipad-3-launch-will-apple-drop-lowest-ipad-2-price-to-299-or-lower/7228 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/with-ipad-3-launch-will-apple-drop-lowest-ipad-2-price-to-299-or-lower/7228)
At $299 for an iPad 2 they would sell a ton. I don't see any reason to discount more then that. I would have my Mom upgrade to the 2 from her first generation at that price for sure.
Production has maybe begun!
http://www.pcworld.com/article/248239/ipad_3_production_begins_report_says.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/248239/ipad_3_production_begins_report_says.html)
Possible iPad 3 (with Siri) launch date...Feb. 24th (Steve Jobs birthday).....
Apple sources are saying that the iPad3 is expected to be the company's first major release of 2012, and its first shipment could go over 4 million units.
According to 9to5Mac, reports say Apple wants to launch the iPad 3 on the anniversary of Steve Jobs' birthday, Feb. 24. And Asian contract manufacturers are asking employees to work overtime during the Lunar New Year holiday to meet the deadline.
Bloomberg's sources say the iPad 3 will go on sale in March, and will have a high-definition screen, a quicker processor and be compatible with long-term evolution. According to etnews.com, Samsung Electronics and LG Display will be providing display panels for the iPad 3, because Sharp couldn't meet its initial supply. Reports said iPad 3 production began at the beginning of January, with some Chinese factories operating 24 hours.
Apple is said to be bringing LTE to the iPad 3 ahead of the iPhone because of its bigger battery. Northern Voices reported that it will have an A6 quad core processor, Siri, and improved camera systems. The screen is expected to be 1536 x 2048 pixels, with 330-dpi Retina.....
http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/science-updates/ipad-3-expected-to-launch-on-jobs-birthday (http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/science-updates/ipad-3-expected-to-launch-on-jobs-birthday)
I may try to pick up a 64GB iPad 2 once the announcement is made - if it drops a few $'s that is...
I may have to "give" my iPad 2 to Lynn so I can upgrade. :)
I just got an email from Apple. They have a special deal on iPad 2 for Valentines Day of all things with free engraving and shipping. The stealth iPad 2 mark down/inventory clearance has begun!
Quote from: Bryancd on January 30, 2012, 07:18:57 AM
I just got an email from Apple. They have a special deal on iPad 2 for Valentines Day of all things with free engraving and shipping. The stealth iPad 2 mark down/inventory clearance has begun!
Yeah, I saw that as well!
March 3rd.
Ooh, cryptic. ;)
Here's some more information for those that want it:
http://allthingsd.com/20120209/apple-to-announce-ipad-3-first-week-in-march/ (http://allthingsd.com/20120209/apple-to-announce-ipad-3-first-week-in-march/)
Apple's not holding an event in February — strange, unusual or otherwise. But it is holding one in March — to launch its next iPad. Sources say the company has chosen the first week in March to debut the successor to the iPad 2, and will do so at one of its trademark special events. The event will be held in San Francisco, presumably at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, Apple's preferred location for big announcements like these. No word yet on a street date for the iPad 3 (assuming that's what it's called), though my guess is retail availability will follow roughly the same schedule as that of the iPad 2: Available for purchase a week or so after the event. As for the next-generation iPad itself, sources say it will be pretty much what we've been led to expect by the innumerable reports leading up to its release: A device similar in form factor to the iPad 2, but running a much faster chip, sporting an improved graphics processing unit, and featuring a 2048×1536 Retina Display — or something close to it. If 2011 was the year of the iPad 2, will 2012 be the year of the iPad 3? Said a source familiar with the device: "What do you think?" An Apple spokeswoman declined comment on the timing of the event, saying the company does not comment on rumors and speculation.
iPad 4- Siri. :) Maybe even in the new AppleTV.
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
Still skeptical we will be getting that high of a resolution. I just dont see how it could be done with needing a much higher GPU and without hurting battery life a lot. But will be watching the event with great interest.
But even if such a high res comes out, it will take app devs to adapt the apps to the resolution. So waiting to buy the iPad 3 won't hurt.
King
The battery runs out so fast on my original iPad now that it is just about time for an upgrade. I've watched the video tutorials for replacing the battery myself and I just don't think I'd be able to do it. You literally have to remove or detach every single component before you get to the battery.
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
They could probably call it iTurd and still sell a ton! :)
Quote from: Bryancd on February 09, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
They could probably call it iTurd and still sell a ton! :)
Wonder if it will be a touch screen. That would make it somewhat different.
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on February 09, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
They could probably call it iTurd and still sell a ton! :)
Wonder if it will be a touch screen. That would make it somewhat different.
I doubt that, a large TV is a 'sit back' experience. Now, maybe cloning the TV display to your mobile iDevice (iPad/iPhone/iPod) with a control overlay would be an idea!
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
I hope not! In the UK MaxiPad is the name of a feminine hygene product!! :shocked
Quote from: bevs_plaything on February 09, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
I hope not! In the UK MaxiPad is the name of a feminine hygene product!! :shocked
Not just the UK ;) I was joking :)
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: bevs_plaything on February 09, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 09, 2012, 10:41:41 AM
Bryan, what are they going to call that new 42 incher? I'd vote for the Apple MaxiPad
I hope not! In the UK MaxiPad is the name of a feminine hygene product!! :shocked
Not just the UK ;) I was joking :)
Sorry about that... :) lol
Quote from: billybob476 on February 09, 2012, 11:10:31 AM
Now, maybe cloning the TV display to your mobile iDevice (iPad/iPhone/iPod) with a control overlay would be an idea!
I think that is a virtual guarantee.
Quote from: Rico on August 22, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Wow - finally some real iPad 3 news. ;)
STAR WARS I-PAD BRIEFING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHF63b7g50#ws)
I agree with Han Solo.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting today that there's internal testing going on of an 8" Apple tablet.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204795304577222354104574994.html?mod=WSJ_Tech_RightMostPopular (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204795304577222354104574994.html?mod=WSJ_Tech_RightMostPopular)
AIPEI–Apple Inc. is working with component suppliers in Asia to test a new tablet computer with a smaller screen, people familiar with the situation said, as it looks to broaden its product pipeline amid intensifying competition and maintain its dominant market share.
Officials at some of Apple's suppliers, who declined to be named, said the Cupertino, Calif.-based company has shown them screen designs for a new device with a screen size of around 8-inches, and said it is qualifying suppliers for it. Apple's latest tablet, the iPad 2, comes with a 9.7-inch screen. It was launched last year.
One person said the smaller device will have a similar resolution screen as the iPad 2. Apple is working with screen makers including Taiwan-based AU Optronics Co. and LG Display Co. of South Korea to supply the test panels, the person said.
Apple, which works with suppliers to test new designs all the time, could opt not to proceed with the device.
Apple spokeswoman in California declined to comment.
The move comes as Apple is preparing to announce a new iPad in early March, according to people familiar with the matter. That device is expected to have a higher resolution screen than the iPad 2 with a similar screen size, according to people familiar with the matter. A version will run on fourth-generation wireless networks from Verizon Wireless and AT&T Inc.
A smaller tablet device would broaden Apple's portfolio and help it better compete with rivals such as Samsung Electronics Co. and Amazon.com Inc. It would also begin to emulate the strategy it took for its iPod music player, which it released in a number of shapes and sizes over time. The company has taken a different tack with its iPhone, releasing one design at a time.
Analysts said a tablet with a smaller screen size will help Apple expand its
market share in the increasingly competitive market.
"Samsung's 5.3-inch Galaxy Note and Amazon's 7-inch Kindle Fire have been selling well. It means consumers want a tablet that is smaller than the existing 9.7-inch iPad," said Diana Wu, an analyst at Capital Securities in Taipei. "IPad's features are good enough but pricing would be an important factor in the mass market, especially in big emerging markets like China and India."
The iPad represented more than 61.5% of world-wide tablet shipments in the third quarter, down from 68.3% in the second quarter, according to market researcher IDC.
Samsung Electronics, which supplies Apple key components such as memory chips and processors used in iPads, sells its Galaxy Tab iPad competitor in three screen sizes: a 7-inch, an 8.9-inch and a 10.1-inch.
Amazon.com Kindle Fire has a 7-inch screen size and is priced at $199, well below the iPad's entry-level price of $499.
Apple has long contemplated different tablet designs, according to people familiar with the matter. But it indicated it was wedded to the iPad's current size.
In 2010, Steve Jobs, Apple's late co-founder and chief executive, criticized smaller tablets, saying the iPad's 9.7-inch form was "the minimum size required to create great tablet apps."
The iPad represented more than 60% of world-wide tablet shipments in the third quarter, according to market researcher IDC.
Apple, like many other big personal-computer and consumer-electronics brands, doesn't actually make most of its products. It hires manufacturing specialist–many of which are from Taiwan and have extensive operations in China–to assemble its gadgets based on Apple's designs. They use parts from other outside suppliers, many of which also are from Taiwan and elsewhere in Asia. The arrangement frees Apple and its fellow vendors from running complicated, labor-intensive production lines, while the ability of Taiwanese companies to slash manufacturing costs helps cut product prices over time.
In the quarter ending in December, Apple hit new sales and profit records based on runaway holiday demand for its iPhone and iPad tablet devices. The company's share price has climbed in the wake of those results, closing above $500 a share for the first time on Monday.
As usual I remain skeptical, why 8"? That's not really a very differentiated product from the current 10" size.
Isn't a small iPad an iPod touch?
I've said it before, i think there's a market for an "iPad Mini" for budget consumers.
I am VERY skeptical about this report, I heard it this morning as well. I just don;t see the need to fragment the iPad market by screen size with such a small differential of just over an inch.
Apple has never been shy about cannibalizing its own user base when there's money to be made.
There have been several reports for quite awhile now about a smaller iPad. I can see it happening at some point. Having used a Kindle Fire for a little bit I can see that form factor to be appealing for certain tasks.
Remember all the different size PADD's there were on Star Trek! :)
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 14, 2012, 08:26:06 AM
Apple has never been shy about cannibalizing its own user base when there's money to be made.
User base, not product base.
Mac Mini, Apple Air, iPod Nano, etc. Those products kept some people from buying a Mac, a MacBook or iPod.
"The right tool for the right job, laddie."
I'm sure plenty of people thought that releasing the iPhone would kill sales of the iPod. It didn't happen, and it's been their greatest triumph as a company.
I can believe Apple is testing 7-8 inch iPads, because you can. But for actual consumer consumption? I'm really skeptical. The only successful smaller tablet has been the Fire. Idk, we will see next month.
King
In an argument with Amy about getting the Ipad 3. She thinks it would be a waste of money, since I got the Ipad 2 less than a year ago... I think about all the money I have made with it and want a faster processor.. ah tech and finances. hehehehe. Any good points I could make to her besides faster processor, better camera?
Quote from: moyer777 on February 16, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
In an argument with Amy about getting the Ipad 3. She thinks it would be a waste of money, since I got the Ipad 2 less than a year ago... I think about all the money I have made with it and want a faster processor.. ah tech and finances. hehehehe. Any good points I could make to her besides faster processor, better camera?
Well, right now you can't really make any concrete points since it hasn't been announced yet :)
Quote from: moyer777 on February 16, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
In an argument with Amy about getting the Ipad 3. She thinks it would be a waste of money, since I got the Ipad 2 less than a year ago... I think about all the money I have made with it and want a faster processor.. ah tech and finances. hehehehe. Any good points I could make to her besides faster processor, better camera?
Yeah, here's one: I don't REALLY need two kidneys! :)
Well, we still don't know all of what it has. I'd say wait till its announced and then we can talk about it eheh. And rumors aren't a good way to decide product buying. If we went by last year's rumors of the iPhone 5/4S, it was a super-thin phone with a 4.3" screen and 24 hours of battery life powered by a Quad-core processor with near-field communication. Talk about insane.
King
BWHahahaha!
An educated guess would suggest we will be looking at high screen resolution and faster processor and possibly Siri features. I think you'll struggle convincing Amy you need this Rick! :)
One thing to emphasise would be the high resell value of the iPad 2 so an upgrade to the iPad 3 may not cost that much all things considering.
Quote from: Dangelus on February 17, 2012, 12:15:57 AM
An educated guess would suggest we will be looking at high screen resolution and faster processor and possibly Siri features. I think you'll struggle convincing Amy you need this Rick! :)
One thing to emphasise would be the high resell value of the iPad 2 so an upgrade to the iPad 3 may not cost that much all things considering.
But...if Apple discounts brand new iPad2's, how to it be possible to sell your old iPad2 for enough to absorb some of the cost of the iPad3 to make the transaction viable? I'm curious...because I'd like to look into that myself!
Quote from: QuadShot on February 17, 2012, 06:52:14 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on February 17, 2012, 12:15:57 AM
An educated guess would suggest we will be looking at high screen resolution and faster processor and possibly Siri features. I think you'll struggle convincing Amy you need this Rick! :)
One thing to emphasise would be the high resell value of the iPad 2 so an upgrade to the iPad 3 may not cost that much all things considering.
But...if Apple discounts brand new iPad2's, how to it be possible to sell your old iPad2 for enough to absorb some of the cost of the iPad3 to make the transaction viable? I'm curious...because I'd like to look into that myself!
It'll come down to timing :)
The best way would probably to sell your iPad 2 very soon, before any of these Apple discounts show up. You may have to live without your iPad for a little that way.
Quote from: Rico on February 17, 2012, 08:26:58 AM
The best way would probably to sell your iPad 2 very soon, before any of these Apple discounts show up. You may have to live without your iPad for a little that way.
:jawdrop
Rick keep your iPAD 2 and get an Apple re-furb MacBook air 11" http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC969LL/A (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC969LL/A) I like mine better then my iPAD or Macbook pro.... you will be able to do more and make more $$$ with that. When the iPAD 4comes out go for it. I am still using the iPAD 1 and it more then capable for me .
live without my ipad.... GASP. CHoke... air, I need.... air......
Quote from: moyer777 on February 17, 2012, 10:26:19 AM
live without my ipad.... GASP. CHoke... air, I need.... air......
Agreed. If our iPad isn't in my hands it's in Fran's. We're going away, I have to bring my MacBook in case a work emergency arises and Fran has to bring her laptop to do some school work, despite that we're STILL bringing the iPad since it's the most convenient device for quick browsing.
Mine is always with me, always watching....
King
...I shall love it, and pet it....and call it George...
Quote from: QuadShot on February 17, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
...I shall love it, and pet it....and call it George...
What about the iPad? ;)
Quote from: Dangelus on February 17, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: QuadShot on February 17, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
...I shall love it, and pet it....and call it George...
What about the iPad? ;)
AH HA! Good one Dan...good one. Or in my case...awesome one! :)
To sell your iPad's try here:
http://www.gazelle.com/ipad (http://www.gazelle.com/ipad)
The rumors have been saying a slightly thicker iPad 3 and this leaked case design seems to show that. Also some comments in this link about the possible iPad Jr. (smaller iPad).
http://www.slashgear.com/ipad-3-casing-reportedly-leaks-21214594/ (http://www.slashgear.com/ipad-3-casing-reportedly-leaks-21214594/)
That's been an on-going rumor due to the retina-screen rumor. But its probable. Especially if they want to push the battery life higher.
King
It's no biggie. I actually find the iPad 2 to be a little too thin. Feels fragile, but mines always in a case anyway. Couldn't give a rats about the thickness as long as its reasonable and not a brick.
iPad 3 coming next week!
Quote from: Bryancd on February 28, 2012, 08:34:39 AM
iPad 3 coming next week!
Watching for iPad 2 price drops...
Quote from: Bromptonboy on February 28, 2012, 09:50:58 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on February 28, 2012, 08:34:39 AM
iPad 3 coming next week!
Watching for iPad 2 price drops...
Best Buy has already dropped them...the prices that is...
Bam, it's official:
http://allthingsd.com/20120228/apple-announces-march-7-ipad-event/ (http://allthingsd.com/20120228/apple-announces-march-7-ipad-event/)
So, they'll ANNOUNCE the iPad 3 next week, not release the iPad 3 next week...
Quote from: QuadShot on February 28, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
So, they'll ANNOUNCE the iPad 3 next week, not release the iPad 3 next week...
Yeah, but it will likely be close on the heals of the announcement and might be up for pre-order on the web site.
Nice. I'd love to get one...but...too soon after the iPad2
Quote from: QuadShot on February 28, 2012, 10:54:27 AM
Nice. I'd love to get one...but...too soon after the iPad2
Yeah, I think that's the point. They want people to be torn and then cave for the device. Too many good tablets have been released recently and they need to put their brand back at the forefront.
Quote from: X on February 28, 2012, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on February 28, 2012, 10:54:27 AM
Nice. I'd love to get one...but...too soon after the iPad2
Yeah, I think that's the point. They want people to be torn and then cave for the device. Too many good tablets have been released recently and they need to put their brand back at the forefront.
Their brand has never even remotely left the forefront. Apples dominance in tablets is massive and really not in any meaningful jeopardy.
Quote from: Bryancd on February 28, 2012, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: X on February 28, 2012, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: QuadShot on February 28, 2012, 10:54:27 AM
Nice. I'd love to get one...but...too soon after the iPad2
Yeah, I think that's the point. They want people to be torn and then cave for the device. Too many good tablets have been released recently and they need to put their brand back at the forefront.
Their brand has never even remotely left the forefront. Apples dominance in tablets is massive and really not in any meaningful jeopardy.
So all this press for the Asus Transformer Prime doesn't exist? I mean when multiple sources around the world agree that it's the most powerful tablet ever, people start to take notice. It pretty much sales out as soon as someone gets some in stock. I'm not saying it's going to dethrone Apple, but it will force them to step their game up.
Press? I can tell you the business press isn't discussing it much, completely irrelevant to what iPad represents for now. Let me be perfectly clear so their is no confusion, there is currently NO device which is even in the same ballpark as iPad, for good or for ill, that's the numbers game right now. That's not a fanboy reality, it's an economic reality and people lie, numbers don't. Apple is only competing against themselves, the tablet war for now is over and Apple won.
So, read an article about the invite photo talking about a very distinct piece missing on that iPad3: the Home Button. Some speculate that the photo represents an iPad in landscape, while others are saying that Apple finally did what they wanted to do with the iPad2...get rid of the Home Button in favor of an all multi-gesture interface.
Quote from: Bryancd on February 28, 2012, 03:14:30 PM
Press? I can tell you the business press isn't discussing it much, completely irrelevant to what iPad represents for now. Let me be perfectly clear so their is no confusion, there is currently NO device which is even in the same ballpark as iPad, for good or for ill, that's the numbers game right now. That's not a fanboy reality, it's an economic reality and people lie, numbers don't. Apple is only competing against themselves, the tablet war for now is over and Apple won.
Oh Bryan...that's not true at ALL. In fact, I can tell you with all honesty that I WAS at the ballbark the other day watching a little league baseball game and I had my iPad2, and there WAS a guy playing with his Kindle Fire...SO...there WAS a device in the same ballpark my friend.... :)
Quote from: QuadShot on February 29, 2012, 11:28:07 AM
So, read an article about the invite photo talking about a very distinct piece missing on that iPad3: the Home Button. Some speculate that the photo represents an iPad in landscape, while others are saying that Apple finally did what they wanted to do with the iPad2...get rid of the Home Button in favor of an all multi-gesture interface.
Hmm.....I have my doubts about that.
King
Why King?
Quote from: QuadShot on February 28, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
So, they'll ANNOUNCE the iPad 3 next week, not release the iPad 3 next week...
They usually announce and then say they will be available tomorrow or something don't they?
Quote from: Dangelus on February 29, 2012, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: QuadShot on February 28, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
So, they'll ANNOUNCE the iPad 3 next week, not release the iPad 3 next week...
They usually announce and then say they will be available tomorrow or something don't they?
No, they usually say, here's what it is, and it went on sale last week! :)
I rarely use the home button since they introduced all the multigestures. I don't see it as a big deal. I guess it has its uses if you need to put the device into NFU mode or something.
As the only button on the thing, I always feel it probably gets more than its fair share of wear. If we could lose it from the iPhone I'd be happy so I can see it as a direction to be followed.
As to whether we see that next week, however, I have no idea.
Quote from: QuadShot on February 29, 2012, 11:42:03 AM
Why King?
Well, ok, we could go without the one button (except on the iPhone, we still need more touch gestures b4 that's possible) but I'd still prefer to have that button because it allows us to go back to the home screen quickly, even if the app stalls. Idk, I'm just doubtful that Apple will remove it but I suppose its possible at this point and that's because drawing apps among others, such as Fruit Ninja are NOT compatible with multi-touch gestures that close the app. So yeah, I am really doubtful Apple will remove the button.
Oh and I'm still doubtful about retina screen. I'm not going to place all my bets on a photo that easily could have been manipulated to be "retina".
At this point, I'm just being patient and waiting to see what they unleash.
King
Retina screen has been pretty much confirmed by suppliers. As for the Home button, what if its basic functionality was replaced by a swipe up from the bottom (the opposite of the swipe down for notification center). Not sure about the no home button though, that's really pure speculation based on one marketing image.
Quote from: billybob476 on February 29, 2012, 01:41:29 PM
Retina screen has been pretty much confirmed by suppliers. As for the Home button, what if its basic functionality was replaced by a swipe up from the bottom (the opposite of the swipe down for notification center). Not sure about the no home button though, that's really pure speculation based on one marketing image.
Be interesting to see how Apple will get past the battery drain retina and quad-core will cause...
King
Personally I despise how the iPad thinks I want my notifications bar to come down from the top of the screen every time I try to use the video slider to skip around during a movie in landscape mode. Does this bother anyone else or is it just me?
Mapping everything the home button does to mutitouch would cause me even more frustration methinks.
Another possibility is that they remove the physical clicking button and just have a touchable 'hot spot' where the home button was. Similar to the buttons on my Samsung TV.
Oooh billybob! That does sound plausible! I like that idea and if Apple didn't use that, I think you should patent the idea! :)
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 29, 2012, 01:50:50 PM
Personally I despise how the iPad thinks I want my notifications bar to come down from the top of the screen every time I try to use the video slider to skip around during a movie in landscape mode. Does this bother anyone else or is it just me?
Mapping everything the home button does to mutitouch would cause me even more frustration methinks.
I get a little frustrated with the notification swipe too at times...
I still enjoy thinking back to when the first iPad was just a rumor and all the people who opined it would be a failure.
Quote from: Bryancd on February 29, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
I still enjoy thinking back to when the first iPad was just a rumor and all the people who opined it would be a failure.
Me included. Obviously my mind has been changed, though I still maintain the iPad 1 was not where it needed to be in regard to form factor and features.
Quote from: billybob476 on February 29, 2012, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Bryancd on February 29, 2012, 05:11:40 PM
I still enjoy thinking back to when the first iPad was just a rumor and all the people who opined it would be a failure.
Me included. Obviously my mind has been changed, though I still maintain the iPad 1 was not where it needed to be in regard to form factor and features.
Sound like the kind of arcane technobabble I hear on the Modern Geek podcast. IPad does 100% of what I do ad 50% more than I even understand. That's what ll the tech people miss. You all can't be satisfied, but the rest of us can.
hehe, I'm satisfied! Proud iPad 2 owner here and the sales of the original iPad more then refute my personal misgivings regarding the original model.
:).
One thing it hasnt helped is your typing, bry. ;)
Quote from: Jobydrone on February 29, 2012, 07:30:34 PM
One thing it hasnt helped is your typing, bry. ;)
Some things even Apple can't make better...
Quote from: Bryancd on February 29, 2012, 07:35:09 PM
Some things even Apple can't make better...
...but for everything else there's iPad!
It's still a secondary device or tertiary device for me - and many. I like the iPad, but I still need a full computer - like I think everyone here still has and uses too.
P.S. There, that should stir Bryan up for the morning. :)
Nah, I agree and love my new iMac!
Yup, the iPad is my go to 'casual' device, any development work, audio/video stuff or 'serious' gaming is on a computer. Though all you iPad-owning podcasters might find this interesting:
http://www.bluemic.com/spark_digital/ (http://www.bluemic.com/spark_digital/)
iPad compatible condenser mic anyone? :)
Quote from: billybob476 on March 01, 2012, 05:51:11 AM
Yup, the iPad is my go to 'casual' device, any development work, audio/video stuff or 'serious' gaming is on a computer. Though all you iPad-owning podcasters might find this interesting:
http://www.bluemic.com/spark_digital/ (http://www.bluemic.com/spark_digital/)
iPad compatible condenser mic anyone? :)
O...M...G...!!! That's going to ROCK. I wonder though, how they'll solve the power issue? These mic's draw power and I wonder if you'll drain iPad power much, much faster? And, I'll bet this is coming with a hefty price tag. BUT...O...M...G...!!! Think of the awesome possibilities!!! Rick Moyer...I KNOW this will be on you must have list brother!! :)
My iPad replaced my laptop, but I'll grant I'll still need a PC for everything mentioned, but when I'm mobile, iPad easily holds up.
Education wise, iPad can do everything demanded this year. :)
King
iPAD 3 and other cool stuff. http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/03/the-most-amazing-fake-ipad-3-youll-ever-see-video/ (http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/03/the-most-amazing-fake-ipad-3-youll-ever-see-video/)
Can't wait to order the iPAD 3 or HD.......Who else is going to pull the trigger!
Marko
From the presentation, they justr announced Apple TV w/ 1080i support. Sold over 315 million iOS devices to date. 62 million alone in Q4.
Rock on!
Retina display, home button...
2048 x 1536 resolution on a 9.7" screen....that's insane!
1920 x 1280!!!!!! wow
blows away 1080p at 1920x 1280 ..... movies are going to look great
Quad core, 5 megapixel camera like the iPhone 4S..
4GLTE!
A5X processor..
Just to clarify, the CPU is not quad core. The A5X is dual core with a quad core graphics processor.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 07, 2012, 10:36:31 AM
Just to clarify, the CPU is not quad core. The A5X is dual core with a quad core graphics processor.
Right, sorry. I was just trying to read the live blog stream.
16GB at $499
Recap: 4G LTE, Fast 3G HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA, 3G world ready, personal hotspot, most bands ever.
Had a long lunch today, so what's the camera in the iPad 3? It sounds weaker than the iPhone.
Quote from: Rico on March 07, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Had a long lunch today, so what's the camera in the iPad 3? It sounds weaker than the iPhone.
5-megapixel sensor, backside illumination, 5-element lens, Hybrid IR filter, Apple-designed ISP.
So, weaker in megapixels than the iPhone (which has a 8 meg camera).
It has the optics of the 4S with the same megapixel rating at the 4.
I am very happy with this update. I think they hit the right notes in regards to expectations on this and exceeded them in some respects. Well done.
Any mention of a new iPhone? My contract is up next month.
Quote from: Jobydrone on March 07, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
Any mention of a new iPhone? My contract is up next month.
No new iPhone today.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 07, 2012, 11:03:56 AM
Quote from: Jobydrone on March 07, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
Any mention of a new iPhone? My contract is up next month.
No new iPhone today.
Yeah, you will most likely have to wait until fall for that.
Things are bogging down a bit in the iPhoto demo...move along!
They say iPhoto is available now...but it's not. :( And when will iOS 5.1 be ready??
iOS 5.1 is today as well.
And if anyone was on the fence before....16 GB iPad 2 available for 399!
billybob, right, but when? It's not there yet, and they're talking like they're ready to be downloaded right now.
The store is still down. Once it's over things will start trickling out.
NOOO! I want it NOW!!!!!!!!! :)
This was basically a HD upgrade for the iPad 2. Notice the lack of it being called an iPad 3. Its still a nice upgrade, don't get me wrong but I won't be pushing to get this upgrade. I'll only get it if my iPad 2 breaks down or something.
iPhoto I'll probably buy, need to look at it.
New upgrades to the iWork Suite + Garageband + iMovie look good too. I use all these apps so the increased support is great.
Could hardly care less about the iTV upgrade, but then I don't need it. :)
All in all, some good stuff for everyone.
King
I can't wait for the iOS upgrade and those new apps. No, seriously, I CAN'T wait!!! HELP, SOMONE HELP@@@##$#()$*)
:) What's taking so long?
Quote from: QuadShot on March 07, 2012, 11:35:22 AM
I can't wait for the iOS upgrade and those new apps. No, seriously, I CAN'T wait!!! HELP, SOMONE HELP@@@##$#()$*)
:) What's taking so long?
Calm down Al, it will be over soon. Just be calm.
;)
King
King, I can't. I'm not a patient person. I want these NOW. Hey, I did look at the Apple website and they show a much different version of iMovie than the one I have...what gives dude?
Quote from: QuadShot on March 07, 2012, 11:43:18 AM
King, I can't. I'm not a patient person. I want these NOW. Hey, I did look at the Apple website and they show a much different version of iMovie than the one I have...what gives dude?
It's a free upgrade coming today, along with GarageBand.
King
Apple is VERY good at this sort of thing. Ok, I tried to purchase the iPhoto, and it takes me to the App store, then I get Your Request Could Not Be Completed. Argh. I know I'm impatient. We've established that! :) The thing that gets me is that they announce these things and make a statement like "I don't know about you, but as soon as I'm out of here, I'm downloading this app!" Ok, that gives one the indication that it's available NOW. Right?
Al! Breathe! ;)
**Sigh...ok, I'm breathing again. Thanks Dan! :)
my devices are happily updated. Very cool.
As are mine...breathing regularly now! :)
iDevices are updated, but the 12 apps for each are not. Its taking a while...
King
Not updating mine. Happily jailbroken :)
The update doesn't seem to have done much for me and my 4. Is there anyone here with a 4S willing to claim that the reported battery life issues are solved by this?
Hey - did they shrink the size of the bezel (frame) around the screen on the new iPad?
As far as I can tell the screen is still 9.7" and the overall length and width are the same. It's slightly thicker then the iPad 2.
Yeah, the dimensions of the screen are the same and are not likely to change. As I mentioned, the chances of a 7" version or something along those lines are very slim.
I'm fine with the screen size, I just they had made the bezel smaller and then the whole then could show more screen by shrinking it some. I also wished they had improved the speaker/sound too. But it's still got an amazing looking display.
I'm not getting one...... i'm getting two
I guess one argument for the bezel size is when you're holding it you wouldn't want your hand to be blocking the content / touching the screen. There needs to be a certain amount of 'dead zone' to avoid inadvertent touches.
Quote from: Rico on March 08, 2012, 08:38:12 AM
I'm fine with the screen size, I just they had made the bezel smaller and then the whole then could show more screen by shrinking it some. I also wished they had improved the speaker/sound too. But it's still got an amazing looking display.
I think the issue with limiting the width of the bezel is that when people hold it, they won't want their fingers blocking the screen and that would be tough if almost the entire front surface area was screen By having the 1/2" or whatevever bezel around all four side it gives someone the ability to grasp it and not not be touching the active interface of the screen. I don't see that ever changing.
Opps, Joe beat me to it. :)
Yes, I can see that thought. I still think it's a tad too big and I do believe they will shrink it some eventually. Especially when they get rid of the home/physical button.
P.S. Did anyone order one yet?
Quote from: Bryancd on March 08, 2012, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Rico on March 08, 2012, 08:38:12 AM
I'm fine with the screen size, I just they had made the bezel smaller and then the whole then could show more screen by shrinking it some. I also wished they had improved the speaker/sound too. But it's still got an amazing looking display.
I think the issue with limiting the width of the bezel is that when people hold it, they won't want their fingers blocking the screen and that would be tough if almost the entire front surface area was screen By having the 1/2" or whatevever bezel around all four side it gives someone the ability to grasp it and not not be touching the active interface of the screen. I don't see that ever changing.
Opps, Joe beat me to it. :)
Great minds Bryan... :)
Quote from: Rico on March 08, 2012, 08:45:29 AM
Yes, I can see that thought. I still think it's a tad too big and I do believe they will shrink it some eventually. Especially when they get rid of the home/physical button.
P.S. Did anyone order one yet?
Apparently Marko ordered 2!
I didn't get chance to watch any of the event or view any pics or video yet, but how do apps and things like web pages scale? Does a 1024 wide web page just fill half the width and then you have to enlarge it each time? Or does Safari blow it up to fill the screen automatically?
The updates have rocked my world!
Garage Band for Ipad added strings... check out a couple of tests I did with it.
http://www.takehimwithyou.com/songs/Oxadran.mp3 (http://www.takehimwithyou.com/songs/Oxadran.mp3)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2782148313992 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2782148313992)
And the new iMovie trailer function is so fun!
http://youtu.be/eiX6KSCkT_w (http://youtu.be/eiX6KSCkT_w)
It's interesting that Apple have started to require iOS updates to be installed for certain 1st party app updates like Pages and iMovie. I guess this is a way to "persuade" people to keep up to date.
I'd actually be interested to see stats with regard to how many people keep:
a) thier OS fully up to date
b) thier apps up to date
I know I pick up Fran's iPhone every once in awhile and there's abput 17 apps that need updates.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 08, 2012, 11:14:37 AM
I'd actually be interested to see stats with regard to how many people keep:
a) thier OS fully up to date
b) thier apps up to date
I know I pick up Fran's iPhone every once in awhile and there's abput 17 apps that need updates.
My wife is the same. I secretly have to grab her phone every once and a while and update it for her! :)
I keep ours all updated on a daily basis, but I use them for work. Amy is a little slower doing that. I try and keep the operating system up to date because in this case I couldn't upgrade iMovie without it. So yeah, if you want to use the apps, they force your hand!
I'm just now doing a video on the cool changed for Garageband. Pretty darn awesome. Can't wait to try the jam session with friends.
I hate updating apps because I am always so close to having my memory at capacity it makes it very inconvenient to do so over wifi. But I hate having those numbers glaring at me on my home screen telling me how out of date I am, so I generally try to keep everything up to date.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNkPvutOP4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNkPvutOP4#)
I'm almost compulsive about App updates. When I'm not doing anything else, it's not unknown for me to grab the phone and check the AppStore just in case!
I currently do not own a Ipad, but as the cost of 2 has come down am tempted to buy the current one tomorrow!
Awesome video Rick. I've been playing around with the updated GarageBand a bit today...and I really like it a lot. iPhoto ROCKS, and the iMovie update is rockin' too! I'd love to get the New iPad, but it's too soon. On an ironic note, my mother in law, who was opposed to even LOOKING at a Mac at all, now owns an iMac, a Mac Air AND is goign to buy the New iPad on Tuesday. NICE!! Joyce and I are driving back to Indiana next Wed, so maybe I'll get to play with hers! :)
Thanks Al, oh, let me know what you think of it! I'd like to get my hands on one.
Quote from: QuadShot on March 08, 2012, 03:00:36 PM
Awesome video Rick. I've been playing around with the updated GarageBand a bit today...and I really like it a lot. iPhoto ROCKS, and the iMovie update is rockin' too! I'd love to get the New iPad, but it's too soon. On an ironic note, my mother in law, who was opposed to even LOOKING at a Mac at all, now owns an iMac, a Mac Air AND is goign to buy the New iPad on Tuesday. NICE!! Joyce and I are driving back to Indiana next Wed, so maybe I'll get to play with hers! :)
Agreed, really liking the iLife suite on the iPad. I'm hopeful they make photo management easier though, idk if its better for mac users, but its meh for Windows users.
King
I totally forgot about the Apple Event due to Mass Effect 3. Looks like it went well.
Here is another example of the new iMovie update
http://youtu.be/EmVKZ1ikBcw (http://youtu.be/EmVKZ1ikBcw)
That is awesome. I must get an iPad.
Quote from: Chris-El on March 09, 2012, 03:16:21 PM
That is awesome. I must get an iPad.
Music to Bryan's ears :)
Quote from: Feathers on March 10, 2012, 06:07:15 AM
Quote from: Chris-El on March 09, 2012, 03:16:21 PM
That is awesome. I must get an iPad.
Music to Bryan's ears :)
:) He joins the 55 Million other people who have purchased iPads since introduction. Not bad for a device that was panned prior to release by the tech media.
I picked one up on Saturday, and can't put it down now! I got a 64gig module cheaper than the reduced price generally being charged in most shops over here at the moment, and I am most happy with it!
Quote from: Bryancd on March 10, 2012, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: Feathers on March 10, 2012, 06:07:15 AM
Quote from: Chris-El on March 09, 2012, 03:16:21 PM
That is awesome. I must get an iPad.
Music to Bryan's ears :)
:) He joins the 55 Million other people who have purchased iPads since introduction. Not bad for a device that was panned prior to release by the tech media.
Is it 55 million people or a lot less that bought both versions? 55 million units doesn't mean 55 million people. Especially when you have multiple units and multiple versions of said units on the market.
After only using Windows PC, and now on owning an Ipad, I was wondering does the device need any sort of virus protection? I have heard that there "isn't a virus written" for its operating system (at the moment)...is this the case?
Quote from: bevs_plaything on March 11, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
After only using Windows PC, and now on owning an Ipad, I was wondering does the device need any sort of virus protection? I have heard that there "isn't a virus written" for its operating system (at the moment)...is this the case?
You do not need a virus program for your mobile devices. I don't know if they will ever figure out how to program a virus/malware for iOS, but so far none have been found due to how secure the system is. Plus, current virus-scanning programs are completely ineffective due to how iOS is built. (And they do exist on the app store, but imo, its to scam people mostly)
Same goes for Android.
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on March 11, 2012, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: bevs_plaything on March 11, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
After only using Windows PC, and now on owning an Ipad, I was wondering does the device need any sort of virus protection? I have heard that there "isn't a virus written" for its operating system (at the moment)...is this the case?
Cheers, most appreciated. :)
You do not need a virus program for your mobile devices. I don't know if they will ever figure out how to program a virus/malware for iOS, but so far none have been found due to how secure the system is. Plus, current virus-scanning programs are completely ineffective due to how iOS is built. (And they do exist on the app store, but imo, its to scam people mostly)
Same goes for Android.
King
Well iOS is a closed system to prevent apps doing things they shouldn't but potentially it CAN happen if somebody finds a bug in the code allowing them access. Of course the app to have to pass the scrutiny of the App Store first.
Actually this did happen recently. A developer found an exploit and managed to get his app published. Luckily he meant no harm and only did it to prove a point to Apple. Apple didn't take kindly to it and revoked his developer license!
Of course if you decide to jailbreak your iOS device you can be leaving yourself wide open so be careful.
Android on the other hand is a lot easier to exploit and a few times malware has appeared on the Android Market. Again if you "root" your device it is even easier to fall prey to malware.
Saying that both OSes are about 1000% less likely to have a problem compared to a Windows OS :)
Quote from: Dangelus on March 11, 2012, 01:23:59 PM
Well iOS is a closed system to prevent apps doing things they shouldn't but potentially it CAN happen if somebody finds a bug in the code allowing them access. Of course the app to have to pass the scrutiny of the App Store first.
Actually this did happen recently. A developer found an exploit and managed to get his app published. Luckily he meant no harm and only did it to prove a point to Apple. Apple didn't take kindly to it and revoked his developer license!
Of course if you decide to jailbreak your iOS device you can be leaving yourself wide open so be careful.
Android on the other hand is a lot easier to exploit and a few times malware has appeared on the Android Market. Again if you "root" your device it is even easier to fall prey to malware.
Saying that both OSes are about 1000% less likely to have a problem compared to a Windows OS :)
Thanks...feel a bit better now. Though I wouldn't carry out any online banking on it...at the moment! :)
You might not get a virus, but you still can be data mined or phished, so be careful where you go onto wi-fi at.
You can see some posted pics taken with the new iPad camera via the link in the story below. They look pretty nice.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/14/new-ipad-sample-photos-improve-over-ipad-2/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/14/new-ipad-sample-photos-improve-over-ipad-2/)
Direct to photo's:
http://www.tinhte.vn/threads/1139442/ (http://www.tinhte.vn/threads/1139442/)
Quote from: Rico on March 14, 2012, 08:34:54 AM
You can see some posted pics taken with the new iPad camera via the link in the story below. They look pretty nice.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/14/new-ipad-sample-photos-improve-over-ipad-2/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/14/new-ipad-sample-photos-improve-over-ipad-2/)
Direct to photo's:
http://www.tinhte.vn/threads/1139442/ (http://www.tinhte.vn/threads/1139442/)
I think the real value of the iPad's camera is in the potential for streaming a live video image as it pretains to business aplications as much as taking a picture. To be honest, I hardly ever use the iPad to take a pic as it's a bit cumbersome and I have an iPhone 4S that takes such great pics and is the right form factor for taking pics.
Hands on with the new iPad. Anyone getting one tomorrow?
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225225/Hands_on_The_new_iPad (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225225/Hands_on_The_new_iPad)
No, but if you had taken the $500 cost of an iPad 2 into 1.5 shares of Apple stock back last June you would now be able to buy a new iPad with the gain and still have your principal. :)
So, should we all just buy Apple stock and not iPads? ;)
Quote from: Rico on March 15, 2012, 09:03:09 AM
So, should we all just buy Apple stock and not iPads? ;)
That's the beauty of it, you could have your shares and the iPad for free! :) It's why i don't sweat the cost of a movie ticket or popcorn. :2cents
Bryan...I know this may be a silly question, but I'm not in the "stock market game", but is is possible to only buy a single share of Apple stock? And I'm being serious (please don't faint. I know I'm never serious... :) )
Quote from: QuadShot on March 15, 2012, 09:57:10 AM
Bryan...I know this may be a silly question, but I'm not in the "stock market game", but is is possible to only buy a single share of Apple stock? And I'm being serious (please don't faint. I know I'm never serious... :) )
Yep, sure can, you just need an account with a broker who can put in the trade. Schwab is good for very heavily discounted trade commissions, like just a few bucks.
$589!!!!!!!!!!!!! holy.....#$$%^$^
What we need is a time machine, go back 25 years, THEN buy Apple stock! ;)
time machine please.
Apple already made one.
Quote from: Dangelus on March 15, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
What we need is a time machine, go back 25 years, THEN buy Apple stock! ;)
Fool me - I had 100 shares back in the days of John Sculley - which demonstrates why I am no stock analyst.... ;)
3 million new iPads sold since release on Friday.
Just an FYI for anyone with an iPad 2 and smart cover looking to upgrade:
http://mashable.com/2012/03/19/new-ipad-smart-cover-problem/ (http://mashable.com/2012/03/19/new-ipad-smart-cover-problem/)
QuoteMagnets: How do they work? Differently on the new iPad than on the iPad 2, it has emerged — and that's bad news for anyone with an old or third-party smart cover.
A number of users who bought new iPads over the weekend (this reporter included) were dismayed to discover that the smart covers they'd bought for the iPad 2 didn't work on the new model.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 20, 2012, 06:59:56 AM
Just an FYI for anyone with an iPad 2 and smart cover looking to upgrade:
http://mashable.com/2012/03/19/new-ipad-smart-cover-problem/ (http://mashable.com/2012/03/19/new-ipad-smart-cover-problem/)
QuoteMagnets: How do they work? Differently on the new iPad than on the iPad 2, it has emerged — and that's bad news for anyone with an old or third-party smart cover.
A number of users who bought new iPads over the weekend (this reporter included) were dismayed to discover that the smart covers they'd bought for the iPad 2 didn't work on the new model.
I am not surprised by this. It makes business sense. Apple want to sell new accessories for the new iPad, it's big money. Crappy for the consumer though as usual :)
Quote from: Dangelus on March 20, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
I am not surprised by this. It makes business sense. Apple want to sell new accessories for the new iPad, it's big money. Crappy for the consumer though as usual :)
Just out of curiosity, has all of Great Britain abandoned capitalism for the warm embrace of socialism? :innocent
Quote from: Bryancd on March 20, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on March 20, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
I am not surprised by this. It makes business sense. Apple want to sell new accessories for the new iPad, it's big money. Crappy for the consumer though as usual :)
Just out of curiosity, has all of Great Britain abandoned capitalism for the warm embrace of socialism? :innocent
:smilie_nono: :smilie_nono: :offtopic
;)
King
Quote from: KingIsaacLinksr on March 20, 2012, 10:25:31 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on March 20, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on March 20, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
I am not surprised by this. It makes business sense. Apple want to sell new accessories for the new iPad, it's big money. Crappy for the consumer though as usual :)
Just out of curiosity, has all of Great Britain abandoned capitalism for the warm embrace of socialism? :innocent
:smilie_nono: :smilie_nono: :offtopic
;)
King
Just goshin' with our friends in the Collective Britannia across the pond! :big grin
Back on topic, when i first saw that posted by Joe, I thought it was because there was a size difference between the iPads but they say that's not the case. Is the new iPad a bit bigger?
It's a bit thicker, but the other dimensions are the same, it would have no effect on the smart cover. I'd be interested to know if the 'relocated' magnets make better contact, or if they had to move them to accommodate the bigger battery and / or 4G radio.
Quote from: Bryancd on March 20, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: Dangelus on March 20, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
I am not surprised by this. It makes business sense. Apple want to sell new accessories for the new iPad, it's big money. Crappy for the consumer though as usual :)
Just out of curiosity, has all of Great Britain abandoned capitalism for the warm embrace of socialism? :innocent
Lol I'm actually agreeing with the reasons for doing this. It's standard practice, like changing the shape of your charge socket with every new iteration of a device (which thankfully Apple hasn't done yet). Some may find it annoying but if you can afford a new iPad on day 1 no doubt getting a new case isn't much of a stretch.
Quote from: billybob476 on March 20, 2012, 10:49:04 AM
It's a bit thicker, but the other dimensions are the same, it would have no effect on the smart cover. I'd be interested to know if the 'relocated' magnets make better contact, or if they had to move them to accommodate the bigger battery and / or 4G radio.
I neglected to mention that there may be a design reason for the change. Wasn't trying to be cynical :)
Its magnet polarity or something to that effect is what I heard, its why newer iPad smart covers still work. This is what I briefly read somewhere else though.
King
Hearing some news of the new iPad have perhaps some overheating issues. Bigger battery, faster processor, higher res display. I'd expect it to generate more heat.
http://mashable.com/2012/03/21/ipad-overheating-retina/ (http://mashable.com/2012/03/21/ipad-overheating-retina/)
New iPad make iPhone apps look good. "Taking back" essentially what a Jailbreak app called "RetinaPad" has been doing for a while now.
I'm glad they're not too proud to adopt a good idea.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/21/2889684/new-ipad-retina-display-graphics-running-iphone-apps?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/21/2889684/new-ipad-retina-display-graphics-running-iphone-apps?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
This is pretty cool and I like seeing real world data.
http://youtu.be/oVS5g8DUxb4 (http://youtu.be/oVS5g8DUxb4)
I guess the question now is does a 6 degree difference matter all that much?
Quote from: billybob476 on March 22, 2012, 08:42:09 AM
I guess the question now is does a 6 degree difference matter all that much?
For us in the USA it's a 22F. degree difference. :) Plus you are getting to temps. where you will feel the difference on your bare skin - like if you have shorts on. Not to mention heat kills electronics faster. Of course if you buy a new iPad every year that won't matter. ;)
Has anyone here been using an iPad with VNC? I am thinking about getting a new one to use along with VNC to remote connect to my Home PC - and from there make a secure connection into my work via RDP. My home machine is Windows 7. Any experience doing something similar?