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Title: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on July 22, 2011, 08:51:20 AM
Anyone know much about roofing or had a new roof put on?  Lynn and I have been looking into this for our house the last couple of weeks.  I've learned quite a bit.  Any suggestions, thoughts or advice would be welcome.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: X on July 22, 2011, 09:09:45 AM
Quote from: Rico on July 22, 2011, 08:51:20 AM
Anyone know much about roofing or had a new roof put on?  Lynn and I have been looking into this for our house the last couple of weeks.  I've learned quite a bit.  Any suggestions, thoughts or advice would be welcome.
Yeah. Don't do it yourself. I've done some roofing and it's pretty simple work. Even a cave man can do it.

However, the cleanup is not for one man to do alone and the heat was like sitting in a stove ... in hell ... for a few hours.

Here's some of the things I've learned since then.

White roof is the way to go. It's more energy efficient.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Homes/Cool-Roof-White-Roof.aspx (http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Homes/Cool-Roof-White-Roof.aspx)

You could also go with solar shingles to get greener and I believe that you will get some tax rebates for going solar and getting a new roof in the process.

Either way, if you're going with a new roof, you should be making or saving money in the process
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: X on July 22, 2011, 09:13:40 AM
Here is the credits you could use for a white roof and solar. I also think that you can combnie the two

Roofs (Metal & Asphalt)
Qualified roof products reflect more of the sun's rays, which can lower roof surface temperature by up to 100F, decreasing the amount of heat transferred into your home.
Tax Credit Amount: 10% of the cost, up to $500
Requirements
"Metal roofs with appropriate pigmented coatings" and "asphalt roofs with appropriate cooling granules" that also meet ENERGY STAR requirements.

Tax Credit does NOT include installation costs.


Solar Energy Systems
Tax Credit:
Credit Details: 30% of the cost, up to $500 per .5 kW of power capacity
Expires:
December 31, 2016
Details:
Existing homes & new construction qualify. Must be your principal residence. Rentals and second homes do not qualify.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: billybob476 on July 22, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
I'm terrified of the day I'll have to put a new roof on the house, so I'll be reading this thread too!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on July 22, 2011, 10:27:22 AM
I've done a little roofing too, and there is no way I'd even think of doing any of this job myself.  We've had three roofing guys come out so far and gotten some estimates.  Some variety and opinions out there on shingle brand, venting styles, etc.  I've been reading up on things.  A lot comes down to picking the place and the installation - of course.  We have another guy coming out next week.  One guy wouldn't even come out and do an estimate because he said it was "too hot."  Really?  He wouldn't even come in the morning.  One guy was 6 weeks out before he could even do the job.  But we have a couple that seem ok so far.  It's the biggest thing we've ever had done on our house and we want to make sure it goes well.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on July 22, 2011, 02:12:52 PM
We have had two of our homes re-roofed. 

Here in the Pacific Northwest we have either cedar shingles, a very expensive way, metal roofs, again kind of expensive, but most people go with asphalt shingles, either 3 or 5 tab.  Most companies that I worked with guaranteed them from 15 to 25 years, and the actual roofing products are guaranteed as well.

I did the first roof myself with friends, something I wouldn't do again, even though it saved me over half the money.  It was not only hard work, but kind of turned out crooked.. hehehe.  On that house we are currently in, we hired a contractor who did our pretty straight forward roof in two days!  Yeah!  Did all the tear off, clean up and put the roof on in only two days.  So far, we are very happy with it.

I don't know if that helped any, but it's my two cents.

Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: turtlesrock on July 22, 2011, 04:37:01 PM
i like the white roof idea. seems like it would work.
always *complete* roofing projects during a really dry period, like in the middle of the summer. otherwise you will need to put tarps over the unfinished parts and it gets all messy :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Ktrek on July 22, 2011, 05:03:44 PM
My only advice Rico would be to make sure the old roof is completely removed and buy good quality shingles that are rated for 30 years. Don't let them build over the old shingles. Insurance companies won't allow it so why should you?

Kevin
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on July 22, 2011, 05:06:22 PM
No worries on that Kevin, we had no plans to build over the current roof.  We bought our house new about 16 years ago, so we know everything about it.  This will be our first major job done on it.  We have a pretty good vibe from one company so far.  I'm kind of looking forward to getting it done. 
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Feathers on July 24, 2011, 12:40:02 PM
We generally use tiles or slate (or thatch) over here so if you're all shingled up then anything I might know is largely irrelevant.

Does a roof really last only 16 years?
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on July 24, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: Feathers on July 24, 2011, 12:40:02 PM
We generally use tiles or slate (or thatch) over here so if you're all shingled up then anything I might know is largely irrelevant.

Does a roof really last only 16 years?

Age varies a lot.  But you need to keep in mind it's impacted by weather quite a bit.  And we have some pretty extreme weather in the midwest.  Huge temperature ranges and swings over the year, lots of snow, wind, etc.  So all that is a factor.  Lynn and drove around a little today looking at colors in our area of shingles.  Getting it narrowed down.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on July 24, 2011, 01:02:39 PM
Here's a pic of our house that I just took today.  If you look closely, you can see where there are some missing shingles and the roof is wearing down.

Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Meds on July 24, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
Is there a room abpve your garage Rico? You do have a bloody nice looking house. I'd have a thatched roof on that, it would look weird but very English ;)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on July 24, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeMeds on July 24, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
Is there a room abpve your garage Rico? You do have a bloody nice looking house. I'd have a thatched roof on that, it would look weird but very English ;)

Yes, the garage has a lot of storage above it.  Filled with mainly empty collectible boxes and other stuff!

I just played around a bit with the Owens Corning site and did some copy and paste of a possible shingle choice called Teak.  We kind of like this one.

Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Bromptonboy on July 24, 2011, 03:24:47 PM
Some of the older sections of Philadelphia have slate roofs.  These are very expensive to replace, but last a very long time.  I have a 30 year asphalt roof on my house - which we bought new ~11 years ago.  I have done small roofing jobs myself, but wouldn't try to tackle my own roof.  What a pro would do in 2 days would take me 2 weeks!  :)

I like the idea of solar paneling - but we live on a hill top and get some pretty severe wind at times.  A white roof sounds interesting - I'll have to mull that one for a bit.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Poodyglitz on July 24, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: Rico on July 24, 2011, 01:02:39 PM
Here's a pic of our house that I just took today.  If you look closely, you can see where there are some missing shingles and the roof is wearing down.

Nonetheless, it's a nice house.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 15, 2011, 03:52:49 AM
Getting our new roof put on today so I took the day off.  Probably take part of tomorrow to finish the job for the roofers too.  The empty dumpster is already here and on the driveway for the old shingles.  Very exciting!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on August 15, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
pictures pictures!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 15, 2011, 09:34:46 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on August 15, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
pictures pictures!


Working on it....
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: stonut on August 15, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
I would have to pass on this my DIY is so bad i am the reason they invented 24 hour emergency plumbers.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 15, 2011, 05:43:10 PM
Here are a few quick pics I took today.  Going pretty good so far - maybe a little slow but these guys are nice and clean up all the junk well.  I think they are Ukrainian (only three of them here today).  I spent most of the day repairing and rebuilding our cupola that goes on top of the garage.  It was falling apart - especially after they pulled it off the roof.  Anyway, I'll be back at work tomorrow and hopefully they will be able to finish it all up.

P.S. Kaylee really didn't enjoy all the noise.



Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on August 15, 2011, 05:55:14 PM
Looking awesome Rico!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: MARKO on August 15, 2011, 06:47:03 PM
Wow Rico ....... looking good, you chose wisely :)

Marko
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Dangelus on August 15, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
Love the house, it's huge!!!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 15, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
Wait until you guys see the cool weathervane we bought for on top of the cupola.  And no, it's not the Enterprise!  :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Dangelus on August 15, 2011, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: Rico on August 15, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
Wait until you guys see the cool weathervane we bought for on top of the cupola.  And no, it's not the Enterprise!  :)

It's a Dalek! :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: M-5 on August 16, 2011, 01:10:49 AM
Nice house. :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on August 16, 2011, 01:15:22 AM
That will be cool to see Rico.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Bryancd on August 16, 2011, 06:46:22 AM
Nice purple cruiser bike!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: davekill on August 16, 2011, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: Rico on August 15, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
Wait until you guys see the cool weathervane we bought for on top of the cupola.  And no, it's not the Enterprise!  :)

It's got to be Zefram Cochrane pointing the way to the stars, like his statue as seen in First Contact.  :cheers
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on August 16, 2011, 08:14:42 AM
Or the Vulcan hand salute!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 16, 2011, 08:26:16 AM
The weathervane is based on a place we've given a lot of money to.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Bryancd on August 16, 2011, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: Rico on August 16, 2011, 08:26:16 AM
The weathervane is based on a place we've given a lot of money to.

U of M!!!!

..or wait, was it Mich State?....
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on August 16, 2011, 08:29:35 AM
Oh I was thinking master replicas! Lol
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 16, 2011, 08:32:29 AM
Quote from: Bryancd on August 16, 2011, 08:27:17 AM
Quote from: Rico on August 16, 2011, 08:26:16 AM
The weathervane is based on a place we've given a lot of money to.

U of M!!!!

..or wait, was it Mich State?....

U of M?!??!  Bite your tongue!

Come on!  Look at the smilies available here:    :msu :state :msu :state
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Bryancd on August 16, 2011, 08:33:44 AM
I know, sacrilege! Sorry, I knew that and realized my mistake quickly!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 16, 2011, 08:39:29 AM
Considering we've give MSU 4 college tuition's, we figured we should represent a little.  :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Bryancd on August 16, 2011, 08:44:37 AM
So the Spartan will be flying high above casa Rico!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 16, 2011, 08:57:36 AM
Here's a pic from the place I ordered it from.  We have it already and I'll take pics once it's up on our cupola.

Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Bryancd on August 16, 2011, 08:58:51 AM
Very cool!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: moyer777 on August 16, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
Oh that is cool!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: sheldor on August 16, 2011, 03:35:16 PM
Does it always point west?
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 16, 2011, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: sheldor on August 16, 2011, 03:35:16 PM
Does it always point west?

Well, I sure hope not.  But that would be appropriate.  :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 17, 2011, 05:09:45 AM
Well, two long days at the roof and they are still working on it.  They should finish today.  I think they are light with their crew.  It's only been 2-3 guys working on it.  Anyway, I'll get some more pics up soon - hopefully when it's done!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: billybob476 on August 17, 2011, 05:32:16 AM
Yeah, if there's one thing I've learned since becoming a homeowner it's that any project tends to extend at least slightly beyond the estimate :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 17, 2011, 05:32:53 AM
In this case - double the estimated time! :)
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 20, 2011, 06:46:20 AM
Well, they finished up the roof a few days ago and I finally took some final pics.  I really like the look and color and hopefully this will last - forever!  We are pretty happy with it and Kaylee is very happy to have her yard back for herself!

Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: jedijeff on August 20, 2011, 07:02:57 AM
You have a Beautiful House Rico, The new Roof looks great. I like you Deck, not to big not too small.
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: WillEagle on August 20, 2011, 07:07:03 AM
Yeah, nice place. And the roof looks great. I may not be a big fan of your weathervane being a Buckeyes fan but it sure beats the other Michigan school!
Title: Re: Roofing?
Post by: Rico on August 20, 2011, 07:07:53 AM
Quote from: jedijeff on August 20, 2011, 07:02:57 AM
You have a Beautiful House Rico, The new Roof looks great. I like you Deck, not to big not too small.

Yeah, I like it out where we live too.  The deck I built a year or so after we moved in.  It's getting to need a couple deck boards replaced, but it's held up pretty well.  My dream one day would be to have the time and money to draw up and build a new place.  But this is nice for now.  :)