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Title: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 28, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
Ok folks, I need some advice

My daughter has a fairly new laptop, less than a year old.  I tried removing a virus from it and now it constantly reboots. It's a windows 7 machine, I restored to factory settings, but now it just boots up, says it's starting windows and then shows this screen....

any ideas?

Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Geekyfanboy on March 28, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
Blue screen is never a good sign.. since it's less then a year old.. is it still under warranty?
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Dangelus on March 29, 2011, 12:08:53 AM
You may need to use the recovery disc and the command line to fix this. There is some information here:

http://www.faultwire.com/solutions-fatal_error/DRIVER-IRQL-NOT-LESS-OR-EQUAL-0x000000D1- (http://www.faultwire.com/solutions-fatal_error/DRIVER-IRQL-NOT-LESS-OR-EQUAL-0x000000D1-)*1210.html?order=votes

Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: M-5 on March 29, 2011, 12:36:51 AM
I think a system recovery may be that answer.  I hope you have the disks.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Bromptonboy on March 29, 2011, 03:15:42 AM
Try bringing the machine up in 'Safe Mode' - before the Windows logo appears - press F8 then choose safe mode without network.  That may allow you to poke around a bit more, and check out event logs.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: billybob476 on March 29, 2011, 03:39:35 AM
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL generally has to do with either:

a) a defective driver
b) a defective hardware device

For example, on my old machine I had a slightly malfunctioning network port on the motherboard. I disabled it and installed a new NIC and the error went away. It's quite possible that removing the virus corrupted a driver. I'll agree with what people are saying, if you can do a full windows restore and then re-update to current patch levels you could be ok. Hopefully it's just a bad driver.

EDIT: A quick google search turns up quite a few people with similar issues, looks like it has something to do with hard drives, check out this google search:

http://www.google.ca/search?q=1astor.sys (http://www.google.ca/search?q=1astor.sys)
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: jedijeff on March 29, 2011, 07:21:42 AM
Good Luck Rick, I think the Links Joe posted might lead you in the direction of the problem, but probably if you can restore the Laptop from recovery disks might be the best. Maybe you should check with your friends at Techline and see if they have some ideas also.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Thanks guys.  The computers now don't come with recovery discs... ugh!  I will check out those links.  Thanks.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: billybob476 on March 29, 2011, 08:14:37 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Thanks guys.  The computers now don't come with recovery discs... ugh!  I will check out those links.  Thanks.

If they don't come with a recovery disc there is generally a small partition on the hard drive that holds the recovery media. What kind of laptop is it? With Dells you usually hold down F8 or something on boot and it loads the recovery media.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Rico on March 29, 2011, 08:35:56 AM
Like others have said, you may need to do a recovery or reinstall of windows.  Can you go back to a previous point on the machine?  Does Win 7 still do that??  Still could even be a hardware problem too, but I'm guessing it isn't that.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
yeah, I tried all that stuff before asking.  Looks like a wipe clean and start over issue.  My buds at the local computer store are going to help, I just called.  I have the code for windows 7 so we can just reinstall it all.  This all started with that malware virus... ugh.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Dangelus on March 29, 2011, 09:31:40 AM
That's why I don't use the Windows OS anymore for production machines, only on my HTPCs. Always had to fix it every so often.

Very happy user of Ubuntu Linux and Mac OS X now.

I hope you can get it fixed without much data loss.

Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on March 29, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
Quote from: billybob476 on March 29, 2011, 08:14:37 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Thanks guys.  The computers now don't come with recovery discs... ugh!  I will check out those links.  Thanks.

If they don't come with a recovery disc there is generally a small partition on the hard drive that holds the recovery media. What kind of laptop is it? With Dells you usually hold down F8 or something on boot and it loads the recovery media.

That partition never works I've found every time I get a blue screen of death like that.  Hopefully you can get it fixed Rick! 

King
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: X on March 29, 2011, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
yeah, I tried all that stuff before asking.  Looks like a wipe clean and start over issue.  My buds at the local computer store are going to help, I just called.  I have the code for windows 7 so we can just reinstall it all.  This all started with that malware virus... ugh.
Ric, there is another trick. Go into the bios and select your optical drive to be the first to boot and put in the CD for windows. Once it boots from DVD, you can get it into the repair mode or even safe mode at times. If you can get it into safe mode, you can fix the problem. Worse case, you can use the repair mode of the Win 7 DVD to fix the problems directly.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: X on March 29, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Thanks guys.  The computers now don't come with recovery discs... ugh!  I will check out those links.  Thanks.
Recovery disks and non-PDF instruction manuals were some of the items they dropped when trying to make computers cheaper ... or so they said. I think it was just them being jerks. After you resolve the issue, you can use the backup features in Win 7 to create your own personal restore disks.

I usually build a restore disk right after I fully setup a system, get all the patches, and the sofware that I wanted on the system. It really is a pain and can take a few CDs or DVDs, but it's really worth it.

I'd also suggest you download Windows Security Essentials. It's a free antivirus put out and maintained by microsoft to work seamlessly with their OS. They are very good at protecting the system, but don't include many of the free Microsoft programs that aid your computer because of possible monopoly charges or something.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 11:10:45 AM
Thanks X.  Yeah, I kind of beat myself up for not making those restore discs now.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: KingIsaacLinksr on March 29, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: X on March 29, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
Quote from: moyer777 on March 29, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
Thanks guys.  The computers now don't come with recovery discs... ugh!  I will check out those links.  Thanks.
Recovery disks and non-PDF instruction manuals were some of the items they dropped when trying to make computers cheaper ... or so they said. I think it was just them being jerks. After you resolve the issue, you can use the backup features in Win 7 to create your own personal restore disks.

I usually build a restore disk right after I fully setup a system, get all the patches, and the sofware that I wanted on the system. It really is a pain and can take a few CDs or DVDs, but it's really worth it.

I'd also suggest you download Windows Security Essentials. It's a free antivirus put out and maintained by microsoft to work seamlessly with their OS. They are very good at protecting the system, but don't include many of the free Microsoft programs that aid your computer because of possible monopoly charges or something.

I have everyone here running Windows Security, definitely has kept us out of trouble.  I'll probably switch back around here soon.

King
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 30, 2011, 11:28:56 AM
Dell customer service was helpful.  They are sending the windows 7 discs for me to restore the machine.  Phew.  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Bryancd on March 30, 2011, 11:59:18 AM
 :cheering :cheering
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 30, 2011, 09:03:06 PM
Got the cds next day air!  They are in my hot little hands.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Feathers on March 31, 2011, 12:02:16 AM
But did they work?

Here's hoping...
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 31, 2011, 03:22:11 PM
Well, the fresh install of Windows 7 and all the other goodies has worked without one glitch.  We shall see how it all goes when Catherine gets back from her grandparents house.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Vartok on March 31, 2011, 04:18:54 PM
Me thinks Catherine owes Dad a big daughterly kiss!  Not that you need an excuse.
V
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Geekyfanboy on March 31, 2011, 07:06:23 PM
Glad everything worked out Rick
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on March 31, 2011, 07:44:26 PM
yeah, I was kind of surprised, but I guess I shouldn't be.  It wasn't hard, just took some time.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: M-5 on April 01, 2011, 01:01:49 AM
I'm glad it worked out for you. :)
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Feathers on April 01, 2011, 01:28:04 AM
Did you/she lose much in the way of data?
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: billybob476 on April 01, 2011, 05:56:42 AM
Great news Rick. Like Feathers said, hope she didn't lose too much data.
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: WillEagle on April 01, 2011, 06:09:38 AM
I sell computers at work so I have heard of this happening quite a few times. And yeah, they don't come with the discs like they used to. I always tell folks if you don't have us do the set up here for you PLEASE don't forget to make your recovery disks!!!! And don't forget a backup external hard drive. If you find them on sale you can get them pretty cheap. I hope it all works out!
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: billybob476 on April 01, 2011, 06:17:40 AM
or even better then backin up to a HD...

http://www.carbonite.com/ (http://www.carbonite.com/)

(also good Star Wars reference)
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: moyer777 on April 01, 2011, 07:51:48 AM
yeah, we had everything backed up, her itunes music, school data and pictures.  phew!
Title: Re: I need help with my daughters computer
Post by: Dangelus on April 01, 2011, 08:07:48 AM
A lot of the time it is system file errors like in Rick's case that cause the problems. It is very rare to have a physical hard drive failure these days. I always partition my drives if only using a single drive so that all data is kept separate to the OS so if need be that partition can be wiped and the OS reinstalled without losing any data.